"Let's talk. First and foremost, the right of self defense is an individual right. No one can do it for us nor should they be expected to. Not the police. Not the teachers in our schools. The Constitution does NOT give us our rights, it merely recognizes those that were given to us by GOD. Our right to defend ourselves is one of those GOD given rights and no one has the right to take it away. It is inalienable (see Declaration of Independence). The mere fact that any form of Govt. took away our right to keep and bear arms is a clear indication that they are standing in the way of our right to defend ourselves and that cannot be tolerated. This is evidenced every time an honest, law abiding, unarmed citizen is attacked by some thug. Each time a law abiding citizen is found in possession of a firearm, regardless of the location, and is charged with a crime, is evidence that the Govt. is in the process of systematically stripping us of our rights to defend ourselves. I carry. I will always carry. I refuse to be a victim created by our govt. Know that when you are in the process of being robbed at gunpoint or knife point, you are very likely to be shot or stabbed regardless of whether or not your comply with the demands of the bad guy. You are like a cowardly sheep about to be slaughtered. Who will care for your family? Who will raise your kids? Will the govt. do it? Is that what you want?
Second, a militia isn't set up for the purpose of travelling our neighborhoods in vehicles with the purpose of ferreting out criminals and administering street justice then and there. A militia is set up to uphold the Constitution of the United States. It's set up to defend our nation and our people from enemies, foriegn and domestic. When I say domestic,that includes a tyrant govt. that serves to oppress its citizens and turn them into subjects by stripping us of GOD given rights. Many states have a regulated militia. Michigan is perhaps the best example where almost every county has one. It has been determined that the Army and the National Guard do NOT qualify as a militia because they are regulated BY the govt. and offer no protection against a tyrant govt. They support the govt. The well regulated militia of which the second amendment spoke is comprised of the PEOPLE. We have an obligation to ourselves and our children to exercise that right......but only to carry out the objectives listed above. We cannot be vigilante's. That would be considered anarchy. None of us wants that.
I would urge you all to take a firearms safety course. To learn safe shooting skills. To practice "shoot - don't shoot" exercises and develope those skills because you will be held accountable if you defend yourself and you injure an innocent person. With freedom comes responsibility. I would urge you all to carry a concealed firearm for the purposes of self defense regardless of laws created unconstitutionally by those who would have us be dead victims rather than armed citizens. A state legislature does not have the authority take away rights given by GOD and recognized by our Constitution, yet we have stood by and let it happen. Look at the results. I would further urge everyone to write or call your representatives and express your feelings about the GOD given right of self defense and your desire to eliminate the current laws that turn law abiding citizens with the desire to defend themselves into criminals by forbidding them to carry firearms for defense purposes.
Support a local militia but ONLY for the purposes of defending your Constitution and your Country. Someone stand up NOW and form one right here in Maryland. I think you would be surprised how much support you would get and how fast it would grow. Better not wait. Time is of the essence!"
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Problem is Hamas and Al Qaeda also think THEIR god is the coolest and has bestowed the divine right to carry guns, rpgs and semtex too {they call it Jihad}. Insert unending cycle of world violence here....I am thinking any interpretation of "god" needs to stay out of someone's bedroom and gun/medicine cabinet. Outside of tribalism, disputes over whose god is cooler have killed more people than smallpox.
That is exactly what a militia is for, thanks for the definition Joe. Yesterday the post got a little carried away.
Thanks for the definition of militia. Perhaps yesterday's post should have said "posse".
Amen. To fully understand the 2nd Amendment, one must understand the historical framework. To understand the Constitution, one must understand the Delcaration of Independence, the original proclamation of our founding fathers. The same men who argued over that also helped shape the Constitution, so it is imperative to understand both. One phrase in the Declaration: "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form..."
This statement shows that Government originates from the people, and that if it becomes Tyrannical, the people have the right and the responsibility to overthrow their government and establish a new one.
Fast forward to 1787 and the writing of the Constitution. Every right enumerated in their is a direct reflection of something that was tyrannical in Britain. The quartering of troops, no freedom of speech, and most notably, no right to bear arms. Having come off of a revolution not 10 years since, the framers understood the importance of an armed civilian populace. This not only allowed for personal protection and home defense, but kept the government honest. These politicians knew that if they had an armed constituency to deal with, they would have to make honest, proper decisions. For if the government became to overbearing or tyrannical, the people had the right and the ability to overthrow and establish a new government.
This is why we have a 2nd Amendment, while it does grant us the right to own weapons for hunting and home defense, it also grants us the right to own weapons in the event of tyranny. For if government derives its' power from the consent of the governed, then the governed, then the governed have the right to overthrow and establish a new form of government!
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Sign us on, we are ready willing and able to defend our constitution.
Where's the first meeting going to be? I think Reese Bobby has missed the point. Perhaps you should come to the meeting and then you'll understand.
Reese Bobby no one ever made mention of whose God is cooler. In fact the Declaration of Independence stated that these inalienable rights were endowed upon us by our CREATOR. When I made the comment from which Joe made this post, I should have been more clear. This is a matter of Americans supporting our Constitution and demanding the basic right to defend our own lives and those of our family members. People have been killing people since the beginning of time and it won't stop now. The Govt. can't make it stop. It is incumbent upon each and every one of us to be prepared to defend ourselves. You can keep that sheep mindset and live in a world of idealism. I prefer to be a realist and live. If you or your family member were out in the public and some thug were robbing you at knife point I think it would be safe to say you would be happy to have me there armed and ready to defend you or your family member. Is that true? Or would you rather funeral arrangements be made? I would rather be tried by twelve than be carried by six. I will say this to you. If we are ever in the same place and the poo poo hits the fan.....stay down and out of my line of fire. I don't need anyone becoming a human shield for the bad guy.
I have done some checking on American militias and they spread over a wide range of ideals and ideologies. If an EASTERN SHORE militia is formed there must be rules and codes of conduct involved. It can not favor one race over another, or one God over another. The militia must be totaly about preserving the American dream for "EVERYONE" of our legal fellow Americans. It can not be a birth place for hate and prejudice, nor can it be about the promotion of any one indiviuals agenda. The militia should only defend the rights given to all legal American citizens by the constitution and the bill of rights. The militia should have discipline, compassion and honor as its cornerstones. The militias sole purpose is to defend the United States of America against any and all who try to abuse or destroy her, no matter where they come from. This is not about hate, its about love. The love we all have for our country and the rights that she grants to all of us.
When I read some of this stuff it reminds me of the scene in "The Jerk" where Navin Johnson is so happy he finally got his name in the new phone book-things are going to start happening for him now. Then an unhinged sniper randomly fingers him as a "typical random bastage" and proceeds to empty a couple magazines across a highway to try to shoot him with a scoped M-16 while he is working at a gas station....Conversation went a little like this:
NAVIN: "Hey Harry, look at this. What's the matter with these {oil}cans?"
UN-HINGED SNIPER: "Dead center. Say your prayers half-breed"
NAVIN: "These cans are defective-they are springing leaks. Come over here and look at this!"
HARRY HARTUNIAN:"You better run for cover or you are going to spring a leak. We don't have defective cans. We have a defective poyson out there."
NAVIN: "He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!!!
Doug, You're absolutely right. No Nazi's. No Klansmen. No fanatics. Nothing of the sort. No tolerance for racism or anything like that. Let's put a seperate blogsite together just for that purpose so that we don't take up so much of Joe's bandwidth or whatever it's called. Pool idea's. What does everyone think?
I would suggest that you try to find someone that is more academicly educated than me for that. There are a lot of people out there with far superior minds then mine that would be better suited for the task. If the militia were to need me I will be there, but Im not a leader, not yet anyway.
I copied the below from the WGMD (Rehoboth)blog web site and thought that anyone interested might be able to partner with this man.
This is the email address of a fellow organizing a Southern Delaware “Regiment”:
sccor2009@yahoo.com
Call it a militia if you like, it won’t bother me. The United States really needs an English speaking version of Francisco Franco.
10:40. If you phrase it that way I think you will find more support. To speak seriously for a moment, many of us who are mistaken for die-hard "libutards" {is that the fashionable talking-head term of the week?} have no problem with gun ownership rights. I love keeping my eye on the range once in awhile. I am definitely for conceal carry; but for goodness sake, forget the bunker mentality of anonymous blogs and go outside and get to know your neighbors and such first. Make eye contact-shake hands {no matter their race or religion}. Learn their names and what they do for a living. Have BBQs/poker night together. Throw horseshoes/darts together. Let your dogs all play together to familiarize themselves with the scents of "friendlies". When small groups of neighbors/housing communities band together and provide more exterior lighting for the whole community, help the elderly/kids get to/from the car/bus safely,{"hear the dog bark...Do he bite?} and report suspicious activity/vandalism on a pro-active basis; you will most likely eliminate your need to ever file a single shot during your entire life. Keep in mind, during the Revolution the militia was just this. Small, rural groups of neighboring farming families who could be mobilized within a moments {by Paul Revere and such on horseback...there was no text messaging then} notice to run to help a neighbor when there was trouble.
It seems as this Reese guy is
the very one to lead this cause.
His credentials , 2 tours in
Vietnam and a necklace of ears
should satisfy everyone. That was just a movie "the jerk" , now you
know!
The way the democrats are trying to outlaw our guns and ammuniton we may have to stand up and defend our rights. Are you prepared to do so.
BTW..before I am eventually accused of Lt. Calley-ish war crimes; if you are a new reader you may not know that this is satire and my necklace of ears is actually made of leftover plastic prosthetic ears I used during an old college video homage to "Reservoir Dogs." It doesn't make it any less effective against intruders; or 'gentleman callers' for my daughter though. And to this day I keep "Stuck in the Middle with You" by Stealer's Wheel on my Ipod in case of emergency.
I'm still hoping that we join the rest of the civilized world...
With 90% of our gun deaths coming from bullets hitting family and friends, something is very wrong with America. It's a major health issue.
... and here we are with our most popular president since JFK and here are a few malcontents are ready to shoot it up (does the descriptor "worthless scum" comes to mind?).
Reese even the militia will need your constitutional knowledge, The question is are you a patriot when the shit hits the fan.
12:15, I for one never advocated shooting anyone. I actualy went the other way we it. I will not stand by and watch my country destroyed from the greed of a few. I also will do everything in my power to allow my children and grand children to grow up in the America I grew up in. I am not"Worthless Scum" If I new your name I could properly address you but since I dont you are more than welcome to come to me and discuss it.(38278 Providence Church road, Delmar,Delaware). Feel Free anytime.
12:25. The shizz-nit seems to have already hit the fan {have you looked at your 401k balance or electric bill lately?}. And I am here a couple times a week-maybe less once it warms up- on the First Amendment battlefield of thought and ideas; just trying to bring people together so our grandchildren don't have to live in a climate of unnecessary fear, intolerance and hate {and maybe share a laugh or two-and learn something from one anothers differing viewpoints in the process}. You may say I'm a dreamer...
Doug,
12:15 here. You may refer to me as "the barbarian"
"I for one never advocated shooting anyone." Then why the guns? Are you just going to wave them at people and threaten??
"I will not stand by and watch my country destroyed from the greed of a few." Even if they do it constitutionally? How can you then be defending the Constitution?? But honestly, the greedy few have always exploited America. It's part of our history and our culture. It's part of the price of having free market capitalism. The Bush administration simply allowed it to happen on a much larger scale. From this, we will recover...
"I also will do everything in my power to allow my children and grand children to grow up in the America I grew up in." That America is gone. It's not coming back, no matter what you do. What you need to focus on is a better future...
More angry guns isn't the solution.
12:15 The goal of a successful militia is to never have to use the guns, same principle that the police have. A militia can achieve their goals by using their numbers and assembling to voice the middle class Americans view-point. You say they did it constitutionaly, when the so called "FREE MARKETS" were opened to America and American companies it was done so at such a dis-advantage to the American people it was doomed to fail. You can call that constitutional if you want, But I call it "crimes against the state". This is not free market capitalism,this is corporate concentrated capitalism. As far as the country I grew up in being gone and never coming back,"Well, well just see about that". If not for the militia this country would of never exsisted. I do not want violence but I will be prepared for it.
Doug,
Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it "crimes against the state", especially if it was done legally. If you don't like a particular law, work to change that law. If you don't like a particular politician, work to get a better one.
But what's being proposed here is NOT patriotic. In fact it's quite the opposite.. It's downright treasonous.
The collapse of the United States of America at the hands of angry rabble militia would lead to utter anarchy, NOT the America you grew up in!!
God is not mentioned in the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence is not the Constitution. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, are granted to us by human law, not divine law.
All living creatures have a right to defend themselves, their offspring and their property, and humans are no different. You may believe because of your faith that this right comes from a creator deity, but our Framers intended for the Constitution to be of human inspiration about human law and not have to do with the divine.
I support the right to keep and bear arms because I recognize this right to do so from a natural instinct and for the resistance of tyranny, as well as, for the defense of my country. This right is granted to "the people" as are other rights, liberties and duties granted and requested of "the people" in our human law set up to guide us in self-governance and limit the government's power over us.
12;15 Im done with you now. You have clearly misunderstood my vision of militia and you have clearly decided where you stand, as have I. Perhaps one day we will meet in the middle. Thank-you for sharing YOUR opinion.
anon 2:44 said:
"Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it "crimes against the state", especially if it was done legally."
See 2:44 you're not getting it. It WASN'T done legally. It was done in flagrant violation of oue 2nd amendment rights. THAT'S what we don't like. No state has the authority to violate constitutional rights. The federal govt. does NOT have the authority to violate constitutional rights. Constitutional rights have been violated by BOTH state and federal govts. and it's time to stop. People have spoken to their representatives. Evidence has been provided as proof that when law abiding citizens have the right to defend themselves, violent crime goes down. Our elected officials aren't listening. Just the way the king of england refused to listen and was in fact a tyrant, so has our own government become tyrannical. We elect new politicians into office based on promises they make and as soon as they take the oath, they begin to lie. By the time we can vote them out, the damage they do is practically irreversible. Once our second amendment right has been eliminated, all other rights will fall like dominos.
Then you said:
"But what's being proposed here is NOT patriotic. In fact it's quite the opposite.. It's downright treasonous."
Oh Really? By exercising our constitutional right to develope a well regulated militia we're treasonous? Let me ask you this. Were Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, and George Washington treasonous? Were those who fought and died in the Revolutionary War on the side of the colonies treasonous? My guess is that if you were living back then you would have sided with the King of England.
Wymzie you forgot Andrew Jackson.
6:13 What a load of nonsense!! You think your rights were violated? Go see the NRA. They spend $$$millions defending "your rights" (as you interpret them). These matters are best resolved in court. In our system, there's check and balances, and the courts are part of that. There is no "You were wrong, so now I shoot you" provision in our Constitution.
Oh, and when your well regulated militia threatens anyone in the government trying to perform their civic duty... that IS treason. What you wrote here sure sounds like such a threat:
"Our elected officials aren't listening. Just the way the king of england refused to listen and was in fact a tyrant, so has our own government become tyrannical. We elect new politicians into office based on promises they make and as soon as they take the oath, they begin to lie."
You can't have it both ways. You cannot be an American patriot and at the same time, threaten people who uphold our Constitution.
Let's be completely clear here. You want to take your rights by force, in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States of America. You are no patriot, you have no honor.
My guess is that if you had fought in the Revolutionary war, you'd have been shot as a traitor (by either side).
8:52 it is you who speaks nonsense. The checks and balances and courts you speak of will certainly protect the rights of the citizens, right? In the same way they heard the cases brought by citizens challenging Obama's citizenship? The same courts that uphold the decisions of govts. that strip the citizens of their right to keep and bear arms to defend themselves?
You quoted me and then said that it sure sounded like a threat. You must read into things the way you see fit. There simply was no threat contained therein.
So you refer to me as a traitor. What would you call yourself as you stand idly by and permit your govt. to strip you of the constitutional rights for which our fathers and grandfathers fought and died. Seems as though you are the traitor.
You're right about one thing. You cannot be a patriot and at the same time threaten those who uphold the constitution.
No one wants to threaten anyone who is upholding the constitution. Where did you get this stuff? Are you hallucinating?
You say I want to take my rights by force.....no no no. Me and many other Americans would stand and defend our constitutional rights by force if necessary. Just like my grandfather did on Normandy during WWII. Like I was prepared to do for four years of my life. What would you do? Run the other way? In my opinion that would make you the traitor with no honor. You know nothing of my honor or my integrity. You have taken a comment I made, twisted it, manipulated it, and read into it what you wanted and then judged me based on the product of your misinterpretation. That's OK I served my country in the U.S. Army prepared to fight at a moments notice to defend your right to call me a traitor. I appreciate that.
By the way. You never answered my questions. Were Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, and George Washington treasonous? Were those who fought and died in the Revolutionary War on the side of the colonies treasonous?
One of the true attributes of a socialist liberal is the unavoidable desire to twist and manipulate everything they see, read, or hear until it supports their point of view-even if they must intentionally leave specific facts out to avoid the undermining of their argument.
Doug,
I wasn't even involved in this one, Dude!
You were on your own the whole time your and Reese, on your own!
Wymzie, Sorry could of sworn it was you. Good Luck in the election, if I lived there I would vote for you.
Wymzie. I miss you. It is like being "Meathead" with no "Archie" around.. ;)
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