There has been much talk about people being confused about which plan to choose, do tell our viewers which plan is best for them and why.
Now THIS, (Ladies & Gentlemen) will prove these liberals have absolutely no freaking clue what they're talking about. They are living in a cult, supporting a black man because he supports gay rights. Prove me wrong.
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If Obamacare is so great, why are all democrats including Obama and his pals from unions exempt from it?
The left's goal is single payer health care, which gives them power and control, end of story.
Well, were waiting.Lets see some answers while were young!
if they live it that much let them be the first customers. unit then SHUT DOWN THE GOV.
Let me assure you, the traffic this morning is higher than usual and still not one response explaining the program.
I should add, I've even been getting phone calls from people asking if they can borrow this Post and share it with others. It seems we've hit the nail on the head. It's all about winning. It's all about beating the rest of the majority as an underdog. What most should remember is that Hillary Clinton started this whole thing back when bill was President and it got smacked down and she was pissed. When Obama was elected he NEEDED her and she jumped on board to continue pushing this health care. Some come on here and say the majority of the country voted for Obama, therefore whatever he says or does should be agreed upon. REALLY, is that how it works? One man should rule our future? So do tell me, why do we have a Senate and Congress? Do we, (as a country) want all of our politicians agreeing upon anything and everything one man says or does?
Let me add this. I personally believe our for profit health care system is completely screwed up, no question. However, is Obamacare the answer, no. We can't even regulate Medicare and Medicaide which is only provided for a very small amount of Americans. How in the world can the majority of Americans truly support Obamacare then?
We need something, I agree. But until we can prove as a country that we can handle such a massive program, until we can go after and shut down Hospitals for cheating the system as it stands, CONTROLLING Americans and holding them hostage is just plain wrong.
well what you fail to see is that death panels abortion & withholding of medical treatments are a way of controlling the population and making the country a better place, of course this would depend on which ones you are killing, aborting and disabling! Guess it just depends on who gets to do the choosing!
They are living in a cult, supporting a black man because he supports gay rights. Prove me wrong.
You just don't get it do ya?
At least you are honest about your resentment....
tl
Alex??? Drew??? Where are you boys hiding.
anonymous 9:56, lighten up and simply tell all of us the answer to what I asked in the post. Attacking me saying I have resentment is out of line. I speak for millions of viewers who visit Salisbury News. Your lack of responding speaks volume.
Let's not forget that while Hillary was unsuccessful in her attempts for national healthcare, it was Romney who started advocating in 2004 for the Statewide healthcare system that he signed into law in 2006 (including an individual mandate). At the time, many prominent republicans supported this as a model for the nation. This ultimately became the model for Obamacare. There is plenty of blame to spread around.
Liberals do live in a cult. This is due to liberal parents (who in their own minds believe they are actually good parents) teach their children to have guilt complexes.
So we now have millions of insecure spineless people running around who only voted for obama because they thought it would be nice to have a black president for once.
9:56-Why do you say it's "resentment?" If you liberals had an honest bone in your body you would admit that a lot of people did support Obama because he ended up changing his stance on gay rights.
Now start debating intelligently and stop for once doing the only thing you libeerals know how to do (besides lie) is play the blame game like you just did when you blamed Joe for being resentful.
Hell will freeze over before you get an answer to your question Joe. The liberals are running away with their tails between their legs because obamacare is proving to be exactly what the Republicans said it would be.
It's still very unaffordable to most people and only a very small fraction of those uninsured are going to enroll.
The liberals don't want to here WE TOLD YOU SO.
10:41-Not quite true what you stated. Obamacare is almost 3000 pgs where as Romneycare is 70 so it defied common sense to say this was modeled off of Romneycare.
If Romney had not been overruled by the dem controlled MA statehouse the mandate would have only applied to approximately 8 percent of the residents.
He attemted to veto 8 portions of the MA bill but again was overridden by dems controlled statehouse and only succeeded on 2 points.
10:14-it is disingenuous to say "it was Romney who started advocating in 2004."
It would serve not only yourself but others who read this to check your facts before you write something that quite frankly is a lie.
It was the MA Senate President and the House Speaker who advocated pushed for the MA law.
LOL-So now they are blaming Mitt Romney for the obamacare fiasco!!!
Obamacare ids an abortion because the Repubs couldn't live with a single payer system, so they sold out the bill to their health care lobby. Obamacare is thus designed to advantage insurance companies and pharmacud companies who pay the big bucks to corrupt congressman so they can have a captive customer base.
If you don't understand a law or a rule, follow the money and it becomes obvious what is going on. Ultimately we are all victims of an entrenched corrupt self serving Congress and Presidency.
The cure is to vote them ALL out of office, have service term limits and make influence peddling (lobbying) horribly illegal.
tl
Its not that Obamacare is so great.
It is a law. End of story. So why are we trying to unsuccessfully change a law so many damn times? Move on. Get something done instead of beating a dead horse. Tea Party republicans are just letting their pride and ego get in the way of writing decent legislation.
anonymous 11:41, You are correct, it is law. However, Obama has already broken the law by changing corporate vs personal delays on the implementation of it.
Now, do tell our viewers which policy is best for each personal want and need, OR do YOU truly not know a damn thing about it as well?
My feeling is, liberal democrats are simply following their cult leaders. Again, prove me wrong and ONE of you actually show you are not stupid as rocks and actually know something about Obamacare.
Well yeah 11:41 slavery was a law also! Should the abolitionists just have stopped beating that dead horse?
If you don't think obamacare is that great then get on the bandwagon and fight. Don't be a quitter!
"Anonymous said...
Its not that Obamacare is so great."
This is the problem. You admit obamacare isn't that great but you are willing to settle for it. Time to up your standards. Start thinking of yourself as better than someone who has to settle for something substandard.
You stumped them on this one Joe.
Yep, Joe has really shown his intellectual prowess on this one. He's the smartest guy in the room.
Where are all the answers to the original question?
The one issue in the Obamacare that has not been discussed is the cost. Not just the cost to implement it but the cost to run it. 10,000 more Government workers on the payroll, and a debt that we already are having trouble paying. Where are the liberals on this statement of facts. You will not find those answers from any Democrat Senator because they never read it.
This whole bias blog is bull. People don't have to explain their beliefs to you. At the end of the day that "black man" that believes in gay rights is still YOUR president. You don't have to like him you can talk as much crap on here as you like but at the end of the day his title will remain!! You probably wont "approve" this comment but as long as you know that's all that matters how about creating a blog ran by a neutral person, maybe your results will greatly improve!!
Signed,
Someone who wishes we could all just get along.
Obamacare was designed to fail from the beginning. That's what government does; it creates a problem and then creates a solution to the problem...And the solution is single payer...And then you will be under complete control. You will eat what they tell you, drink what they tell you and breath how they tell you. You have been had and you don't even realize it yet. Turn off the lights, the party is over.
Ditto 3:59!!!
3:59-He ain't my president! Maybe he's yours but my standards are much higher than to ever except someone who is as vulgar and crude not to mention a failure at everything as my president.
And now here is some reality for you to chew on. You know why the black communities and culture is in a shambles and if you are honest you will admit they are. It's because black people vote based on race and have for generations as opposed to voting on someone's successes. That is why black communities are overwhelmingly cess pools of crime and poverty. The people they vote in all subscribe to the same principles as Obama. These people are no good and either is Obama.
So 3:59-explain why obamacare is so good. Of course we know you don't have to explain your beliefs to us but we all know this is nothing but an excuse because you can't answer the question.
I don't want to get along with you 3:59. Anyone who defends Obama doesn't share my beliefs. If for nothing else Obama's embracing of JayZ who sell young impressionable kids violence and drugs by glorifying it in his music.
Maybe you approve of this but I won't ever. To me it's disgustingly sickening that a president of all people would surround himself with low life's who sell this crap to kids.
Blacks are killing each other in record numbers. Well no wonder! Their idols like the obama's are extremely perverted in their morals.
Amen 359!!!
3:59: The BLACK MAN in the office is not my President...
3:59 answer the question. Oh wait your winning right? Mindless followers! Educate yourself beyond MSNBC
Dingy Harry Reid got the entire state of Nevada exempted from the law. That is all any one should need to know. If Obamacare was a good thing Reid would not have arranged for his state to get an exemption. I don't understand how so many people are living in the dark about this issue.
3:59 True, and the end of the day his title will remain. And at the end of Abraham Lincoln's day his title remained as well. Your post spoke of a title, not someone qualified to hold it. And will you be in DC. this weekend to help us keep the WW11 Monument open to us Vets?
Today the President’s staunchest supporter Chris Mathews chastised the Mr. Obama for his behavior as non-presidential. Mr. Mathews had an epiphany of sorts realizing Mr. Obama is in over his head.
The President is not capable of running a 7-11 store much less the country. He can’t make the tough decisions and runs away on another vacation or to the golf course when there is any pressure.
He now is making every attempt to scare the American people. He has tried to rattle Wall Street I suppose trying to cause a crash.
It is time for this man to go….he is an embarrassment the every citizen in this country.
if you go here:
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
you can calculate cost and view policies.
Since I am unemployed and have no income I would have to pay $5653 in premiums and it would only cover 70% in costs on the silver plan. With an out of pocket amount of $6350 in deductibles and coinsurance. That means with no income it would cost me $12,000 to have insurance for the year, with no income. If I lie and put that I will make $11,500, my premiums would be around $230 and I would still incur the $6350 additional fees. I do not see where that is affordable, when it would take nearly 50% of my income to have insurance. Affordable? I will gladly pay the $95 penalty instead.
Obama is nothing more than a house slave for big business 3:59. Everything he does is for the benefit of his masters. The problem with you field hands is you think it's done for you. No it's done to line the wallets of big corporate executives who are making billions off of people spending their food stamp allotments, getting obamaphones, etc. He throws a pittance to you all to make you think he cares and all the while his masters are patting him on the back telling him what a good obeying slave he is to them.
Ahhhhhh, Michele.
I love the fact that you express exactly what most Americans are thinking but are too afraid to say so publicly.
Next year,lets see how many dems run on voting for Obamacare!
Existing prior to Oct. 1, our local hospital has two top administrators, one retired whose salries steal 2 million a year from the hospital, plus the salaries of 9 or so board members. Multiply by how many hospitals?
Then, we had the health insurance layer of a lot of worker bees selling plans, processing claims, and paying the doctors for their work. This layer not only had its own administrative layer, but had a different one for each office, region, and state.
All this administration will continue to exist under Obamacare, and will probably be forced to expand just to process the added paperwork.
Now, add another 10,000 government administrators to run Obamacare in between the patient and his doctor, and tell me healthcare will be cheaper under this program.
C'mon libs, show me how this will be cheaper and any more effective.
I'll wait right here.
it the law that has been ahived upon us through the back door of Congress while Dems had majority in House and Senate led by Queen Nancy Pelosi who stated quote "Lets pass this, so we can find OUT whats in it". The cost of it is 4 TIMES MORE they oromised, 400% ,ncrease., so they lied to us, again. Law could and should be be repealed. Like someone said - Slavery USED to be a LAW..
3:59 You have not answer the question. Being President Does Not Make Obama being the LAW of the Land of the Free. In Venezuela or Cuba maybe. So when is your Role Model Barry O. coming to sign himself and rest of Democ-rats for Obamacare? So called "leaders" they claim to be. What, what, cat got your tongue?
Agreed, 8:30! 359 is under the assumption that Barack is some sort of Lord and King whose wishes need to be bowed to.
Not on my watch!
See 7:41 pm
Because Barry O. SAID SO. You know, the same guy who said Trayvon Martin was almost like his son he never had. Same guy who made promises and didn't deliver any. Same who sad Change and we thought it was for better and we got worse. Yeah that guy, Im gonna belirve the pathological liar? No, thanks, not me.
Well, Joe, you have failed miserably here to find one amoeba or even a cognizant human to prove the value of Obamacare.
Last call, Y'all! Bring it to the table!
No libs on the shore?
crickets
I hope this posts shows the hypocrisy in blindly following a party just because. Make your own decisions and base them on what's best for you through research and awakening to the web of deceit. It's not about democrat vs republican anymore. It's about have's vs have not's. Authoritarian vs libertarian. The globalist military industrial corporate oligarchy is destroying our country. The federal reserve(private shareholder bank) kabal are behind the insurance companies, who are behind the 10,000 page ObamaCare debacle
8.08 has it right...Obamacare was designed to collapse the health care in this country so that the govt can take it over. Obama said this several times in speeches he has made and single payer has always been the goal of Democrats. Whats going to happen in WV when Blue Cross folds or leaves and there are no insurance companies left? Can't happen you say? Well they already control most of the mortgages and all student loans and when they control healthcare too...well, I guess they already do.
People miss the big picture. This is not about Health Care as a whole. It is about population control - forcing Americans to bend to the will of Government. A Socialist ideology that makes all people dependents of the Government while they decide what money you should be allowed to keep. It is about singular Party rule. I know what Socialists can do with one party rule.
Republicans ,Democrats , it's no different than professional wrestling .one big show and we all choose sides .I'm for this one no I'm for that one the script is written we will all pay the price . I think it's time we all wake up .
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