by Patrick J. Buchanan
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.?
Fair enough.
But this time, it has to be a 2-way conversation.
White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.
This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard.
And among them are these: GO HERE to read more.....
43 comments:
WOW and AMEN ......
and now the slamming of Buchanan begins. Hard to argue with the facts but they will. RP
wow. where were Buchanan's comments yesterday for the NAACP post? I could have just copied and pasted that.
Pat has it right here, but the blacks are not all this way. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they do cry foul too easilly and dump their problems on others, instead of working hard for what they want, like I did most of my life.
Thanks Joe! The article hit a home run. There is only one person that can stop me and that is me and SHAME ON ME IF I ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN! It's about personal responsibility and accountability.
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!! Thanks you Pat Buchanan for writing everything I have been thinking. This white guilt has got to stop, the stimulus bill is nothing but reparations in disguise. White people are pretty worthy too, and we better start acting like it.
That's the truth in a nutshell. Like it or not.
Jack Richards, take the curse words out and I'll post your comment.
Could not agree more. Let the "African"/Americans (99.9999% of which have never been to Africa, will never go to Africa and could not find it on the map) think back what their life would have been had their "brothers" not sold them and sent them here. Those that try have suceeded the same as other ethinic groups. Those that drop out of school, commit crimes, have a whole covey of illegitimate children and spend more time complaining about their lot in life than doing something productive, will continue their downslide in this life. Not intended to paint everyone with the same brush
Sorry Joe, did not realize that bit----- was a baddie
Many of the "statistics" in Buchanan's letter are dubious at best. In a country where roughly 12% of the population is African American, doesn't it stand to reason that African American criminals would be more likely to commit crimes against whites? I'm not justifying crime at all, I'm just saying that the numbers here are absurd. The other thing to keep in mind is that the biggest welfare recipients in this country, by far, are corporations. Next in line with the hand outstretched, American farmers. Third in line, poor whites in Southern states. Fourth in line, African Americans in Southern states. Buchanan has some decent points, but most of this is misleading and he knows it.
Nice meeting ya Patrick. I hope "they" dont get you ! You know its wrong to speak the truth in a country where there is corruption run a muck.
But even so you have spoken the truth except telling people that it has been all the "special" treatment of this one race that has been a large part of why America is in the position it is in now. We are all Americans and no favortism should be shown for anyone. That is what the constitution says in a manner.
Perhaps those that are more ignorant could be less predjudice from here on out.
The next trouble is with our Government corruption. We have to end this or we will all be in real trouble.
Buchanan also said:
"Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history."
So perhaps he should exclude himself from the conversation.
The fence that so many sit upon, by choice or ignorance, is quickly turning into a razor blade...
Funny how the World constantly belittles this man for embracing God's Divine Order, His Will, and His Inspired Word...
Pick up the most published, copied, distributed, embraced, non-fictional, perfect book,,, The Holy Bible...and READ IT!!! Peferably King James Version 1611AD Companion Bible
Christ says that one MUST understand the Parable of the Fig Tree...
If the BOOK is more than you want to partake in then at least try this:
http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/pbl19.html
OR non-biblical for Agnostic sake:
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/fruitid6.htm
(scroll down to see the fig tree and the Blastophaga Wasp items)
Please cut-n-paste and you will be amazed...God Is Great!
Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, but they comprise 37 percent of the welfare rolls. This should not be surprising; in 1994, blacks had a poverty rate of 33 percent.
On welfare
White 7%
Black 25%
Hispanic 20%
Foreign Born 9%
US Born 11%
http://www.arthurhu.com/index/awelfare.htm
The south shall rise again!
"Perhaps those that are more ignorant could be less predjudice from here on out." >>>>>
I understand and AGREE with what you are saying, but the wording is off...
IGNORANT:(adj)
unaware, uninformed, ill-informed, unfamiliar, oblivious, unconscious, unknowing, unwitting, unenlightened, in the dark, inexperienced, illiterate
antonym: aware
PREJUDICE:(n)
A)bias, preconception, prejudgment, predisposition, partiality
antonym: impartiality
B)bigotry, chauvinism, narrow-mindedness, discrimination, intolerance, injustice, unfairness, partisanship
antonym: tolerance
Seems that African Americans are pretty guilty of the same...OR do you mean them in the first place, considering we now HAVE, "from here on out", an African American President???
"In a country where roughly 12% of the population is African American, doesn't it stand to reason that African American criminals would be more likely to commit crimes against whites?" >>>>>
That is an incredible statement..."Dubious" for sure...'Bout forty dollas wort of bud in dat blunt...They commit more crimes against EVERYONE in America...Period. FACT,,, not Bigotry!!! Talk about manipulating a statistic. Wouldn't that mean since there is so many white people that we should lead in all crime statistics in America???
The biggest Worldly battle is between the rich and poor, not the black and white, woman or man...Greed is the root of all evil.
"The other thing to keep in mind is that the biggest welfare recipients in this country, by far, are corporations. Next in line with the hand outstretched, American farmers. Third in line, poor whites in Southern states. Fourth in line, African Americans in Southern states.">>> I submit to you that the first group are raping America for the few within who are striving for WORLD dominance...But the rest are mere products of the aforesaid as the filthy rich leave the rest of us in a vacuum.
"Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history."
So perhaps he should exclude himself from the conversation.
>>>>Who Dr. King or Mr. Buchanan...
DIVISIVE:(adj)
discordant, troublesome, disruptive, conflict-ridden, contentious, acrimonious
It seems Buchanan is not trying to thumb down African Americans, but it is certain the late Dr. King envisioned a predominately white nation being ruled over by a black man.
Anon 12:33pm
Actually read and understand what you post. There are more whites on welfare than blacks.
The numbers you pulled (apparently to try to shore up your position) are for something else. Mothers on welfare.
12:33,
Please translate those % into numbers. What you have done (misleading statistics again) is use the % of each population that is on welfare. So here's a little math lesson for you: 7% of 80% of the population is much, much more than 25% of 12%. And how are you going to define welfare? If we add in the checks that are cut each year to American farmers (the vast majority of whom are white), then the #s shift significantly. And we are talking in many cases about hundreds of thousands of dollars per farmer, not $30,000. And if we REALLY want to get serious, add in the corporate welfare to white CEOs. Suddenly, the "facts" you and Buchanan cite are not so solid, are they?
Michael,
Your response makes no sense.
"It seems Buchanan is not trying to thumb down African Americans, but it is certain the late Dr. King envisioned a predominately white nation being ruled over by a black man."
Oh sorry, I see it now Michael. You are dullusional. No need to further this conversation your mind is made up.
I do have one last suggestion though. Actually read the "I Have A Dream", speech.
I am white , I was born in Africa,
my family is from Africa . My family goes back 150 years in
Africa. I am white and my entire family is white.
Do I qualify for the same as an
African American , afterall I am
an African American.
Anon 1:22 pm
The site you pointed out shows that there are more whites on welfare than blacks. Period
Stop playing with the numbers. It's there in black and white (no pun intended).
Who cares who gets more welfare?Really?Im disgusted at anyone who lives off of other peoples sweat.
Before black Americans work on anything or anyone else,the very real issue of black on black crime should be addressed.Locally and nationally it is a serious problem and will eventually cause more loss of life than any hate group ever did.
There are more blacks on welfare by percentage wise then whites. That I understand. When blacks only make up 12% of our society of coarse there be more of the majority on welfare.
Welfare is the governments fault regardless of race. When the government makes if more profitable for a person to stay home and have kids than to work why work. When the government pays a high percentage of your rent why work. When you can get foodstamps and eat better than a working man why work. Government assistance should be available for the truly needy, but any able bodied man or woman, regardless of race, should have to work for any government assistance if that means picking up garbage on the roads.
These comments are why y'all (you all) get lectured. If you have never had the need to recieve assistance, then how do you know who recieves it? whites are definitely in line at the the wicomico social services, Wic office and every other resource available. Y'll act as if only whites pay taxes. Ignorant is what you commenters are. I gurantee you If I, a black woman and a white man went for the same position in a corporate money making business, same degree and experience but he know "Mrs Kathy", the supervisors aunt, I would be very unlikely to get the position. It's been like this for centuries. Foreal, I think the civil rights fight had it wrong. Forget living, eating, and/or learning beside you, We should have just been just trying to get equal opportunity to live and work like you. Ignorance is pretending that racism was cured after the civil war, that lynchings and unsolved, unwarranted murders against blacks didn't occur less than 0-40 years ago. Last time I checked there are just as many famous black artist, muscians, commentators, businessmen and etc., paying taxes. Oh yeah, include those bi-racial money-makers with white mothers who y'll will not claim, Obama, Halle, Mariah, Alicia, so on and so on. Looks like to me y'all the ones getting the free ride. It makes me sick to read these comments. Progress my A$$. Miss West Side
People generally fear what they don't understand, and generally, don't understand what they fear. That's the way it is with the relationship between blacks and whites in America. White people don't understand what it means to be black in America, therefore, there is a bit of fear of blacks in America. Some blacks don't understand the prejudices of some white folk, therefore, their response is driven by what they don't know. It would appear that since we all live in the same country, it would make more sense to try to be more tolerant of each other.
anon 2:40
Will you please translate what you just said into english?
Obama was voted in to rid white people of 'white guilt' we are always bringing down the black man.
Now that he's in there should be no need for Affirmative Action (which doesn't work)and now blacks rise up under white suppression.
The age of excesses and blame is over!
11:21
Crime is crime. Who cares about the numbers. As a percentage of thier own population blacks are committing more crime than others. Whether it be crime against their own or others, they are leading the race. I don't feel sorry for any situation that any black is in, my family had to work for what we got and hard at that. Blacks seem to be handed most and only have a short walk to get it, to the mail box. White people you shouldn't feel sorry for anything, you did nothing to make thier situation the way it is.
When I grew up there was two groups of people and I will leave it at this, You were either white or a democrat, enough said.
Democrats want hand outs, republicans have a desire to earn what they have.
Anon 2:40
What did you say? I have to agree with 2:46 on this one!
Whachu talkin burt, I'ont be pickin up whatu puttin down and stuff! Yome sayin!
Welfare numbers correspond with race percentages...Poverty has no color in the United States. But, blacks lead crime in every column...Not only here, but WORLDWIDE.
"Oh sorry, I see it now Michael. You are dullusional. No need to further this conversation your mind is made up.">>>>> THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES<<<<<<
>>>>"dullusional"-what is this word you speak of? Three dictionaries, and NO GOOD.
"I do have one last suggestion though. Actually read the "I Have A Dream", speech.">>>>>>>>>>
Each of my four children have brought it to my attention year after year, several times each year, during his sanctified day, during American History, and Black History week, and every other week in elementary school. The public school system has made this speech the hottest piece of literature ever written...Part of the grand scheme. SO, YES, I HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED ON THIS MAN'S DREAM AND HIS AGENDA.
Buchanan pointed him out for what he was...He saw a unified black nation...Where was his sincere concern for ALL of us??? Don't paint it up either, what else do you need to grow up as a race???
It is time you wean yourselves off of affirmative action.
"Whachu talkin burt, I'ont be pickin up whatu puttin down and stuff! Yome sayin!">>>>>>>>>>
This is why we will argue forever...Until BLACK PEOPLE have a change of heart this overbearing dead horse will never go away. AMERICA FREED YOU FROM SLAVERY....
Now we have a black president...Buchanan said it is time for some straight dialogue about how we can get blacks to stop acting black. HE IS RIGHT!
And as far as that ebonic crap Miss West Side spewed...We all have to deal with these same realities of life that she ghettos up....Welcome to EQUALITY Missy.
"Michael,
Your response makes no sense">>>>>>>...Which part???
"It would appear that since we all live in the same country, it would make more sense to try to be more tolerant of each other.">>>>>>>>>> Blacks are now within every instution, venue, career path, sport, blah, blah, blah,,,But white people still need to be even MORE TOLERANT? I.E.accepting, easygoing, lenient, open-minded, forbearing (formal), understanding, charitable, broad-minded, liberal
We now have young white children stating that if they could wake up tommorrow different, what would it be...Many are saying they would like to be black....Are we FAR ENOUGH YET?
Sadly, black people only have a handful of postive role models, as the majority are just out-of-control troublemakers, lacking wisdom and discipline as we have let them carry on for the sake of "equality"...
What is the deal with asking "miss West Side" to "tranlate" her comments? She explained "y'all" to you, and if I tell you that "foreal" means "for real," will you idiot racists get off her back?
Her comment was perfectly understandable, and not even close to anon 5:21's attempt at ebonics. There are plenty other comments posted on this blog that could use a LOT of help with spelling, puncuation, grammar, and incorrect capitalizing of words. She outdid a lot of you.
Sorry Michael,
It is apparent that you have never read the "I Have A Dream", speech.
I almost feel sorry for you. Good luck with yourself.
Mr. Buchanan has clearly proven himself a chauvanist, homophobe, and a bigot. However, his facts are just that, facts. I actually enjoy and defend his perspective.
This is 11:24
Micheal is just trying to troll. What he commented on my comment made no sense at all.
I was talking of all people. Not Black, not White. For the record, I beleive blacks are more against whites than vice-versa . But pointing fingers dosnt solve anything.
The only way we are going to be as one nation is to question why when someone is acting stupid . No matter if its white on black or black on white or white on white or black on black !
It is every ones responsibility to educate each other when ignorance is projected. The challenge comes in the method one chooses to use when doing so.
To be able to communicate in a way that dosnt belittle. Most of the times a simple question why will defuse stupidity. But in those extremely stupid times, a simple thank you and walk away will cause less harm and still allow a different opertunity to have a chance.
Personally I dont like Obama. Not because of his color. But because he isnt experienced enough. Presidents should not have to learn as they go. How can the blind lead anyone? There is much to much in question about this guy.
And his color is more of a answer to questions then him actually being accountible.
Now miss west side seems to have some inkling of sense yet she refuses to use proper english ? Are you keeping it gangster yo !
Or are you using slang to better impact your comments ? Its a lame attempt at being a "field nigger" If you ask me. Before you get all up in arms ..Dr King used the very same discription in his speech.Or was it Malcom X. Not so wearsed in history but you know what I mean.
I have a dream too. I dream of the day people grow up and stop acting stupid. Thats all. No long winded speech. JUST GROW UP. I mean everyone.
Because we are being forced into a socialistic society the whole time people are distracted with the race issue.
I forgot on more thing ,...Neither black nor white people will like the restrictions put on us if we become socialist. We will all be slaves of the Government.
8:02
I have a dream, that MLK's never comes true. The fact that Obama is in hasn't met MLK's dream yet either. Racism was the main reason Obama got elected, kinda goes against MLK in my opionion. Therefore as I interpret, the Dream has yet to be met! Remember people voted in volumes this time (ones that have never voted) based on one thing only, the color of a mans skin that they felt stood a chance. They never voted before because it was just going to be just "another white man". All of the above goes directly against MLK's dream doesn't it. Although MLK had good intentions, he is one of the most notorious racist ever because his intentions were really onsided.
Preaching against the white race and fanning the flames of victimization of blacks is a huge revenue producer for the Sharpton, Jesse Jacksons, Jeremiah Wrights of this countryl They don't really care about the betterment of blacks, they want to keep the anguish and accusations going to fan the flames for their own personal financial gain. It is an industry that exists primarily in black churches, one of the most racially segregated organisations in our nation. Blacks need to stop worshiping the welfare baby mama rap culture and take advantage of all the biased programs already inplace to help them achieve financial and personal success, period.
11:21
A great understanding you do have! I agree, Anon 9:52
No offense,Miss Westside,but I have to point out an inaccuracy with your hypothetical job interview scenario...
While Mr.White Man might know the supervisors aunt,they are NOT going to hire him over you.In fact,as unfair as it is,even if he has twice the related job experience that you do,you will get the job because the company is terrified of a EEOC lawsuit.Even myself,a white woman, would get preference over the white man,just because of the way things are.I have personally seen examples of this double-standard and it sucks.The best qualified person should get the job,regardless of race or sex.
Wow. Just reading the number of bigotted comments in replying to this article- proves the point- that folks do not view blacks as having or deserving equal rights. How can something so obvious be denied as the root of the problem for the denial of equal rights in this country for people of color? (blacks, hispanics, asians, middle east, etc.) I'm caucasian, but I can easily see that white America thinks they are the superior race in this country. At least all the conservative so called "Christian" folks seem to embrace that notion.
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