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Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Best Buy Sucks Too!

A little over a year ago I bought a tower computer from Best Buy in Salisbury. The manufacturers warranty was one year. I purchased an extended warranty which picked up when the manufacturers warranty stopped. 3 weeks ago it showed a blue error screen so I took it to Best Buy for repair along wth all of the warranty paperwork. The "agent", a tall heavyset guy with blonde hair and glasses named Dan, advised me that the error code meant that the RAM was defective and needed to be replaced. He stated that it couldn't be repaired at the store and would have to be shipped to the Service Center in Kentucky. Not being a computer guru, I asked if I would need to have the hard drive backed up. He stated that the hard drive would not be touched, it was the RAM that was the problem. He told me that he would send it off and it would be back in 2 weeks. At the end of two weeks I received a phone call that it was finished and that I could come pick it up. Upon my arrival I talked to another "agent" who advised me that the hard drive had been replaced. I immediately felt sick to my stomach as I had over a years worth of files, estimates, saved data, not to mention the fact that I had a professional come into my office to wirelessly network all of the other computers together. I aasked if the service center had transferred the data from the old hard drive to the new one. NO! The "agent" advised me that he would send the service center an e-mail asking them to hold my hard drive until the situation was resolved. He stated that there was no way to contact them by phone - only e-mail. The following day I received a call from "agent" Ricket from Kentucky. She advised me that they had in fact put my hard drive aside and that they retrieve the data for me.......for a fee of $260.00 minimum. It would be more if the amount of data exceeded 9 megs. Agent Ricket advised me that she would call the Salisbury Store and that it was ALWAYS an option for them to call the service center but everyone doesn't know that. She stated that if the Salis. store was willing to pay for the recovery they would start right away. She stated that the Salis. store should agree to pay for it since I asked if I should have had it backed up before it was sent.

A short time later she called me back and advised me the the manager at the Salis. store would not pay for the recovery because he didn't believe that any of his employees would advise me not to back up my hard drive.

Today I went back to the store and spoke with a "different" manager who advised me that he was authorized by "his" manager that he would pay for half of the difference between what their service center would charge and what Brainwave would charge. I went to Brainwave who stated that the cost to retreive the data would be...................$85.50 regardless of the amount. Even better.......Brainwave would have replaced the hard drive, recovered the data, and installed the data on the new hard drive for about $200.00.

I don't mind paying the $85.50 since I would have had to pay it anyway. But the fact is that the Geek Squad is SCAMMING EVERYONE. What was the point in paying for the extended warranty? I'm supposed to go in and speak to the managers managers managers manager tommorrow to try to work this out. (How the hell many managers does one place need anyway?) I can't imagine how much this fiasco is going to cost me before it's all over.

My first mistake was buying from a chain store and expecting good service. My second mistake was getting the extended warranty from a chain store. I should have kept my business with a locally owned company who could have fixed my computer at that location within a few days. I guess I was trying to be penny wise and ended up being dollar foolish. Go to Brainwave for all your computer issues folks - avoid those chain stores like the plague.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Granddad,
go to www.ripoffreport.com and search for BestBuy. You will be amazed at what these idiots get away with!! I bought a tv from them and got a run around regarding a refund when it failed out of the box. BEWARE BEST BUY!!!!! I will never walk through those doors again and advise others to do the same.
Mike Ash

Anonymous said...

OMG! I have been in your shoes before (but not with Best Buy) my computer died on it's own, but the feeling of losing everything.... just makes me sick! For days, months, years, you will remember little things and it can really break your spirit! Just remember, no one was physically hurt (yet!).
I have bought two computers from BB, without issue, but I will be more aware now.
Good luck and remember "tomorrow is another day!".
Phluff70

PS ~ I still have flash backs from things lost..... but it can always be worse... LOL

Anonymous said...

i bought a dell lap-top last week from best buys and one day later the screen light died, they replaced it with a new one and two days later the drive crashed. we told them we wanted our money back, the main company had us a check about seven days later. my complaint is more with dell than best buys.

Anonymous said...

Just to add fuel to the fire. My printer kept giving the message that there was a paper jam, and I could not find the paper, nor get the printer to print.

I took it back to Best Buys that is where it was purchased. The person in the "repair" department had a serious attitude problem, that was number one. Second after he told me that he would "take care of the problem" he talked to three other people, joked around, and finally came back to "take care of your probem" He literally pluged in the printer, opened the lid, and said, "well, looks like it is time to buy a new printer." I said, "this one is 1 year and two months old," he said, don't get an attitude with me" I said, please forgive me, it was unintentional" Knowing he was the one with the attitude. I said, how much do I owe you? He said, nothing. I said thank you and left.

My son opened the printer, and found the paper on the right side inside, a torn portion of a page, and put the printer back togeter and it has worked fine ever since.

Moral, Attitude plus bad service equals loss of customer. Me.

Anonymous said...

Circuit City isn't any better....I bought a GPS from them and misplaced the power cord...now wouldn't you think I could buy one in the store? Nope,was told to go online at the Garmin website...that didn't work either..finally found what I needed on amazon!!!!

Anonymous said...

Brainwave is awesome! After our computer died, they were able to somehow retrieve all of our photos and documents and songs. I cannot say enough - we never thought we would get back all that we did. And it was very reasonably priced too!

Anonymous said...

Typical Big Box retailer. Zero Service. They go through managers like jalepenos go through me.

Anonymous said...

Brainwave is a great place for your home computer issues. I am "in the biz" and have used them for some difficult hardware problems and have always been happy.

Geek Squad is horrible - anybody with any skills gets out of that place ASAP.

Remember to keep your money local when you can - it will somehow find it's way back to you!

Tim Chaney said...

Brainwave has been good to me. I have a computer they made there. Best one I've ever had. I thought I was having a video card problem and it was going to have to sit there a while. Cliff's sister checked my monitor and that is what is was.

Not only did she save me money because there was nothing wrong with the computer it was the monitor she realized it was under warranty and was going to give me another brand new 17" monitor.

Since it didn't cost everything I decided to upgrade to a 20" flat panel for just $39 more. I listen to a lot of music on the web (You Tubes) so last Christmas I got myself a speaker system with a sub woofer and again they gave me a great deal just because I said it was a present to myself just 2 days before Christmas.

If you need something worked on it takes a while to get to because they are backed up and a small family owned business. Three years on this computer now and haven't had a problem except the monitor which wound up being an upgrade.

Anonymous said...

wow.. replacing RAM is the easiest thing to do. Can't believe they would ship it off for something they have on the shelf!

Anonymous said...

I've never used Brainwave it's always good to hear a local business does what it says it will do. I have been to Samuels up on the north end of 13 and I have to say I am very pleased with the service and the work performed. I've never had to take anything back to him twice for the same thing. His rates are reasonable as well.

Anonymous said...

If you don't want any of these headaches--buy a Mac.

Anonymous said...

Your first mistake was NOT backing up OUR data.... and no, 2 minutes after a crash is not going to cut it. Home, small business, school it does matter. Ask yourself one question: Can I live without the data? Memory is cheap! Backing up can be as easy as cut & paste...
Don't blame the manufacture, the store, or anything in between. Your data is yours! If it's worth anything, back it up.
Sorry about your troubles - once bitten...

Anonymous said...

re: "buy a mac" - ha ha. Macs use the same brands/types of hard drives as pcs, in fact the same ram, the same cpu. How do you figure you won't have the same hardware failures? As far as software problems, no wonder you "won't have any" as 99% of retail software out there is written for Windows. And macs lock up plenty. Apple charges at least 30% more for comparable hardware, and where again do you suggest taking your mac to get it fixed?? Oh, not to mention the parts for a mac cost 2 to 10 times as much as a pc cause you're forced to buy from Apple. Apple is a worse monopoly than Microsoft. At least with a PC you can choose from hundreds of manufacturers, not just one. Only an idiot would buy into the ipod/itunes monopoly. You overpay for a music player (many mp3 players much cheaper/better), you can't even replace the battery in it yourself (well without prying it apart like a monkey) and you have to buy songs (well people think you do) at 99c a pop from itunes. You can buy mp3s for a mp3 player from lots of different vendors.

joe albero said...

I had a MAC once, THEN MY DAD GOT A JOB! LOL

This Post is going to completely turn around and that sucks. Please try to stay on topic? Thanks, Joe

Anonymous said...

If you don't want any of these headaches--buy a Mac.
9:41 PM

Me too. Exactly. Bought 6 of them recently (one for the wife and for each kid).

I think 10:20 hasn't owned a Mac. BTW, the design of the motherboard, and the selection of fans,... DOES make a difference. Best of all.. No Microsoft software, and Mac OS X is a good imitation of Unix.

Want more? Go read Consumers Reports.

Sorry Joe for staying off topic.

Chimera said...

I first became familiar with Brainwave when I signed up for their local dial-up service several years ago and they also had serviced a computer I bought elsewhere.When I replaced that PC 4 yrs ago,I decied to go with one that was customized for me from Brainwave and I am happy with my decision.They are an ideal place to buy because they also service products LOCALLY and for reasonable rates.Great customer service AND you are supporting a local American owned business.

Anonymous said...

I got my Mac repaired at Inacom. Apple recommended them to me, and they quickly fixed my computer under my Apple Care Warranty. They did such a good job, I took my old iMac there to get it fixed up for my kid - took a little longer due to supplier availability of parts. Still, it has worked great and I feel it was well worth the money for a 2nd computer.

Anonymous said...

Having once worked at a Apple Assembly Plant, I can tell you I would Never ever buy one. 75% fail rate right off the line do to bad hardware.
I have built several PC's on own, and bought several from Gateway. They are not to bad.

Anonymous said...

I recently hired Geek Squad to come to my house and correct problems with my Wi-Fi. She was here for over 2 hours trying various paths to correct the problem. Finally claimed the only answer was to format the hard drive and start over from zero. It cost $100 and the computer was in worse problems when she left. I felt like I was watching a student in a training lab as she worked. It took me several hours and experiments to get my system back working after she left. No - I never formatted the hard drive, either. This is a Dell computer we bought at Best Buy. Dell phone support refuses to help because we bought at Best Buy and not a direct purchase from Dell. I will never pay Geek Squad again and the only thing I got was a training session for the technicians. What a joke.

Anonymous said...

Brainwaves Rocks!!!!! They have bailed me out of more than a few crashes!!! Most of them my own undoing!!!!! You never have to second guess them and most the time they fix other stuff or install firewalls etc... at no charge just to keep me from messing up again. I WONT go anywhere else!!! Thanks BRAINWAVES for ALWAYS bailing me out!!!

Anonymous said...

for any and all computer work

www.easternshoretechs.com

check us out we are local

Bryant

Anonymous said...

5 years ago I was a Mac Guru repairing and upgrading the machines for the simple love of Macs. Then I plugged an OS 10 disc into my machine and watched the screen raster "melt down" without even trying to install. The final result was a video/pva board as well as monitor failure admittedly(by Apple) caused by the software. Being a true beliver I contacted Apple support numerous times as well as a registered letter to Steven Jobs. All I got was more runaround and an offer to supply parts if I paid labor.I told them I could install them but that was out of the question. I then took all 6 of my Macs,boxed them up and put them in storage in a VERY damp warehouse(may they rot in peace) and ordered a Dell. While Dell is not the best machine, I would NEVER go back to Mac. They do lock up quite frequently and software is very difficult ot find. I have had zero problems with my pc in the last 5 years. Mac is overrated!!
Mike Ash

Anonymous said...

Another good local company to use in Salisbury-
Advanced Microcomputers Inc.
advancedmicro4u.com
1229 Mount Hermon Rd
Salisbury, MD 21804
Locally owned and when you have problem you have the owner there to solve your problem.

Tax Guy said...

My 2 cents.

I buy computers based on price/specs alone. What I mean is if I like the brand and specs of the machine, I buy from the cheapest retailer. Usually I find good deals on tigerdirect.com. What I don't do is buy the service plan. A service plan is just a purchased insurance policy from a company that will do everything they can to not honor it. Service plans are a joke. Like a slot machine, the advantage always goes to the house, or else they wouldn't be selling them. Odds are that you won't get your money out of it.

Best Buy has the worst documented customer service ever. Read the fine print in their return policies. Basically, they close with something to the effect that they can revoke their return policy for any reason. So, if they can revoke the policy whenever, they have no return policy.

Granddad, did your blue screen read, "Unmountable boot volume"? Which would indicate a disk surface error. Remember, a hard dive is like a needle on a record, with the record always spinning. Any jarring to the machine while on will scratch the disk. I've recovered many of laptop hard drives for myself and business peers, when service shops say they need replacing. (Now this is not in reference to Brainwave, because I don't know them, but stay away from Express Tech in West OC) Windows install disks have a recovery mode you can boot to, and repair the disk surface. Yes, it's time consuming and the disk remains vulnerable, but it can get the disk up and running until you replace the HD for a mere $50.

Granddad....if you read this before you agree to pay for anything, have them mail you the old drive back. It's yours not theirs. I guarantee I can get that drive recovered for you.

Anonymous said...

A MAC? give me a break I'd rather have my first Tandy Lmao

Anonymous said...

A MAC? give me a break I'd rather have my first Tandy Lmao

Anonymous said...

I've used Samuel's on Rt. 13 to repair my old computer and I've purchased two used laptops and a used desktop from him over the past few years. He's very reasonable and has always done my repairs quickly.


Chris

Anonymous said...

Brainwave actually refers data recovery cases to Inacom for the more severe problems. Inacom has the training and equipment to actually open the hard drive and repair it. I was told of a case where they recovered data from someone putting their drive in the freezer!

Anonymous said...

I've worked retail for several years, and EVERY issue seems to stem from one of two things;

1- Not reading what you're agreeing to.
2- Hearing what you want to hear.

Corporate America (aka- "Big Business" or "The man") isn't out to get you. They're out to make money, just like all the Ma and Pa shops. However, because retail store are so much larger, have more customers, and more employees they need more structure and rules to maintain their business.

All the rules, policies, fineprint, etc are there so that they can have the grounds to not have the pants sued off of them. There's always someone out there trying to make a quick buck. Sure, sometimes they're a little strange, but a room full of legal minds have thought it over, gone over the facts, and deemed it necessary.

Bottom line; read what you're agreeing to, it can't do anything but make you informed.

PS- Retail associates don't just pile things in your cart. We're trained to find what you're going to need and match you up to it. We human, just like you.

Anonymous said...

Isn't that why people in business pay for insurance? Shop locally when you can, keeps the money here

Anonymous said...

Unmountable boot volume dosent always mean a bad hdd. it can also mean that the master boot record or the boot.ini file is corupt. its a easy fix such as running fixboot then fixmbr then chkdsk/ r if that dosent work then its a bad hard drive or just a bad os install. know ur computer stuff b4 u start posting

Anonymous said...

Hardrives are so cheap now there is no excuse for not backing up important data. Internal or external both are hardrives are incredibly cheap nowadays.

Of course if you buy a computer from a best buy or similar place you should expect this kinda thing.
Try some of the boutique computer sites like cyberpower.com and Ibuypower.com. You can actually build a computer to your specs on their sites (with prices, specs etc all displayed). It's kinda fun to just mess around and design your own machine.

Computers are pretty simple when you open 'em up and look inside. Once you know how a comp works, it's very easy to fix or upgrade yourself. Learning how to install/re-install windows/drivers will solve alot of comp issues.

-Fett

Anonymous said...

NEVER...EVER BUY DELL AT BESTBUY[9:35 AM] Connecting to Rescue Gateway: control.app12.logmeinrescue.com...
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[9:35 AM] Chat session established with Agent McCowan.

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[9:35 AM] Michele+Costa says: Hello goddmorning
[9:35 AM] Agent McCowan says: Morning
[9:36 AM] Michele+Costa says: I do own a Dell Lapotop bougth at Best Buy March 14 2008, Sarasota Fl.
[9:36 AM] Michele+Costa says: At the moment I am in an overseas assignment in the Dominican Republic at least fr 3 months
[9:37 AM] Michele+Costa says: I contacted Dell International support which refered the problem to your group
[9:37 AM] Michele+Costa says: I would like to send you copy of the e-mail explaining the issue
[9:38 AM] Michele+Costa says: Hello,....are you there???
[9:39 AM] Agent McCowan says: Yes I am here
[9:40 AM] Michele+Costa says: may I send you in the dialog copy of the e-mail???
[9:40 AM] Agent McCowan says: I was thinking matbe you were pasting in the email with the issue
[9:40 AM] Michele+Costa says: yes I will then...
[9:41 AM] Michele+Costa says: HELLO LUIS,

I was also wandering if there is a software patch for the BIOS to ignore the ID from the AC power adapter therefore allowing the battery to charge................It is really annoing to use a laptop connected to the AC permanently, and with a battery charged at 15%-20%........

Waiting for your reply, thank you in advance

Michele Costa

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michele Costa
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM
Subject: Dell Inc. Case #619000434 ATTN Luis Rep ID 01168711
To: latecho@dell.com


Mr. Luis,

I do have still a problem.......

The issue related to my DELL INSPIRON 1526, SERVICE TAG 3BPMMD1, EXPRESS SERVICE CODE 7238520757 ,it regards the AC ADAPTER not being recognized by the Laptop resulting in the battery NOT being charged. See Dell's knowledge base Journal ID 08246VTBNJ

http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&dl=false&l=en&s=gen&docid=358E1DBD3B7F4BCDE040A68F5B2877AE&doclang=en&cs=#5

Now I pinpointed further the issue and ruled out the AC adapter, since I compared it with a friend's and I determined that the plug inside the Laptop has a contact issue.

Now, I bougth the system in March 2008, in Best Buy Sarasota, Fl. but I am staying in the Dominican Republic for the next three months.

Could you direct me to Dell's local support, to change the defective part, I believe in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic Dell has a support center.


Regards, Waiting for your reply........

MICHELE COSTA
[9:42 AM] Michele+Costa says: My e-mail is michelecosta2004@gmail.com, may phone is 809-979-3672
[9:43 AM] Agent McCowan says: You basically are wanting the local support in Santo Domingo ?
[9:44 AM] Michele+Costa says: No, I was directed to your group.....
[9:44 AM] Michele+Costa says: Yes, I would like to service the Laptop in Santo Domingo, if there is a service
[9:47 AM] Michele+Costa says: Do you know if there is a patch fr the BIOS, to avoid reading the Ac adapter ID, therefore allowing the battery to charge?????
[9:48 AM] Agent McCowan says: I am researching your issue as we speak
[9:48 AM] Michele+Costa says: OK
[9:53 AM] Agent McCowan says: I have been informed that we do not ship nor do we have a store in the Dominican Republic
[9:53 AM] Michele+Costa says: Best BUy or Dell??
[9:54 AM] Agent McCowan says: No ma'am
[9:55 AM] Michele+Costa says: my name has Italian roots I am Mr.Michele
[9:55 AM] Michele+Costa says: what do you suggest I do????
[9:56 AM] Agent McCowan says: You do have a 1 year limited warranty with Dell through Best Buy but it is an in store process
[9:56 AM] Michele+Costa says: so if I have it repaired down here, do I loose the warranty????
[9:57 AM] Agent McCowan says: That would void the 1 year warranty \
[9:57 AM] Michele+Costa says: Well, then could I ship Fed-X to the Sarasota store????
[9:58 AM] Agent McCowan says: Then how would they ship it back to you
[9:58 AM] Michele+Costa says: using the same international carrier???
[10:00 AM] Agent McCowan says: We don not ship to the Dominican Republic
[10:02 AM] Michele+Costa says: well, then I am really disappointed, since when buying a DELL at BEST BUY, I should have been informed, that the support was only going to be US based.......It seems like it's a poor strategy, both for DELL and BEST BUY............thank you and have a nice day....I AM NOT A HAPPY CUSTOMER
[10:03 AM] Agent McCowan says: Thank you for contacting the Geek Squad Chat. Have a good day
[10:03 AM] Michele+Costa says: thank you

[10:03 AM] Agent McCowan has ended the session.