Interesting - one other question. if electric cars do not use gasoline, they will not participate in paying a gasoline tax on every gallon that is sold for automobiles, which was enacted some years ago to help to maintain our roads and bridges. they will use the roads, but will not pay for their maintenance!
In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car:
Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it. This is the first article I’ve ever seen and tells the story pretty much as I expected it to
Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to power things yet they’re being shoved down our throats. Glad somebody finally put engineering and math to paper.
At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.
This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.
If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It’s enlightening.
Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine” Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car costs about $20,000 while the Volt costs $46,000-plus. So the American Government wants loyal Americans not to do the math, but simply pay three times as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.
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29 comments:
A lot of dumb a$$ people will still buy into the electric car thing
The fallacy of your logic is that a battery powered vehicle is used for long distance travel. Most people don't commute that far from home to work. Long commutes are a given here because there are not many jobs worth having close by. We live in a very upscale community in FL and there are many Tesla, smart car and bmw electric vehicles. The cost of electric from FPL is pennies on the dollar of what DP&L is charging you.
Move if you are smart.
buy a diesel and your mileage gets even better. amazing how many idiots buy into this government bs without ever doing the math!
RE: the Volt battery, average residential service is $.13 per kWh x 16 = $2, not 18+, for the first 25 miles which pretty muck matches the same price as burning gas but then they will have to tax it HEAVILY to pay not only for the roads, but the new infrastructure!
In addition, everyone will be charging overnight when solar and wind are not working, so coal, oil, or nukes must burn more.
I think we went over the cost of wind energy in a pervious article when these windmills are only lasting 4 years instead of the dreamed of 20.
No matter how you figure it, petrol wins exponentially!
Do the math on a gallon of E85 vs regular gas. The government pays you to put corn in your tank.
When will people get it , the wheel was invented many years ago. Study some physics
My laptop, even with extra add-on battery, only lasted 2 years before it told me the batteries have exceeded their usefulness. I've heard the batteries in electric cars are made of the same: lithium- ion. If electric vehicles are the future, there has to be a better guarantee or trade replacement policy for the batteries - the most expensive part of the vehicle.
Just think- it would be like replacing your entire engine every 75-100k miles. Yeah, I don't have that kind of cash flow either.
And how much does it cost to replace this battery?
Technically electric cars run on coal
The rear reason the government is pushing electric cars is that they can control and monitor our movement by controlling the electricity.
You can store a can of gas in your shed but you can't store 25KWh of electricity.
Anyone who says they pay $1.16 per KWH for electricity is lying or has misplaced a decimal point. It's more like $0.116
The BC Hydro suit was blowing smoke up your butt. I use to build houses almost 20 years ago for a living. None of the homes I worked on had less then a 200 amp service, Most had 300 or more.
That being said, I still believe electric vehicles are nothing more then over priced grocery getters.
SBJ
I called a Democrat friend and she said you are wrong because the government would never lie to us.
I read awhile back, during its entire life, from raw materials/construction to disposal/junkyard. The environmental impact from a electric car was equivalent to a Cadillac Escalade
802 - over priced grocery getters - ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
Not to mention the outrageous increase in electricity bills this past winter along the DELMARVA regsion! Yeah, electric cars will work for everyone - NOT!! Someone mentioned physics above. Last I checked, my two feet still work too!
Cost to walk - well that's up to me. Normally ZERO, but if I want to stop and get a beverage at one of the many watering holes (practically every block here in OC), then that's on me!
Have a HAPPY and SAFE week everyone!!!! 37 days until SPRING!!!
Electricity is inefficient because the coal giants keep the USA from making any progress.
748, you ever heard of a battery? Get out of here with that government conspiracy crap. Follow the $$$. 729 news flash, your laptop battery and a cars battery aren't going to be the same thing. Jesus people read something other than this blog for once and get educated
Yeah, what he said. I have never seen or heard of a house with 75 amp service and a long time ago I saw an old house with 100 amp. Everything today is at least 200 amp, most are more.
7:42 AM - technically, electric cars run on vegetable matter that turns into coal and oil.
Most homes I inspect have a 200A service with 1/3 having 150A and there's still a few 100A services around, and, yes, average price is 12-13 cents per kWh. Since I don't work for the electric company I don't know what the capacity is on the lines down my street, but I suspect there's going to have to be a lot more transformers and heavier wire needed. Since power plants run on petroleum and coal, the real road taxed cost of electric cars has to be higher than producing that energy right in each vehicle. making the power in one place and transferring it through the grid will always undergo a voltage drop/ power loss.
Face it, electric cars still run on coal and petroleum; they're just more inconvenient with less range, and cost more.
Are the charging stations placed in the back parking lot at Center of Salisbury free?
8:02 and 7:53 are absolutely correct. Whoever wrote this article doesn't have a clue. Still electric cars are only good for short commutes.
So now we have to kill vegetables to drive electric cars. Now that is ironic.
They are going to charge you per mile you drive!!! Already in the works and being tested out west in like 2 states... They will use GPS you say doesn't exist in cars, and they will track you,you say doesn't happen, to get your miles and bill you accordingly...
Why are you people so stupid???? You know damn well these people won't do anything without getting paid one way or another, so even if a new industry pops up, what the hell would you ask how something gets paid for??? IT always get's paid for at our expense, and they will not let an industry take over without measure in place for them to rape you and take your money...
Then Technically, they run off plant seeds
Great thing about electric cars is the deer. When I drive past a herd of deer in electric mode they just stop eating and stare. When I drive past them in gas mode they get frightened and run across the road in front of me almost causing an accident. I see this happen every day going back and forth to work.
Interesting to observe.
Why would anyone wait 10 hours to charge a battery, when all they have to do is put more gas in the tank until they have time to charge the battery, like when they're sleeping? That 10 hours DOES NOT have to be added to travel time, and the recharge time does not stop anyone from driving a Volt without charging. After 270 miles, just add gas. It's still a 29-30 MPG car, on gas alone. What's not to like?
@8:48, no. YOU pay for their installation and the electric "given away" there through YOUR electric bill!
Feels good, doesn't it?
How do we figure out how much pollution the power plant creates in order to make enough electric to recharge an electric car battery?
Won't be long before there are no more gas engines put in cars. You cave people better adapt or be prepared to pay $10/gal for fuel.
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