JJ was 4 at the time.
I agreed his behavior was inappropriate, but I was shocked that it resulted in a suspension.
For weeks, it seemed as if JJ was on the chopping block. He was suspended two more times, once for throwing another chair and then for spitting on a student who was bothering him at breakfast. Again, these are behaviors I found inappropriate, but I did not agree with suspension.
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Not to worry. Obama has decreed a different standard of conduct and responsibility for blacks as opposed to whites.
Why don`t you teach J.J. some damn discipline? He`s a distraction to others who want to learn yet you think its O.K. for him to function as such in the school. If he was mine and he spat upon another person black or white he would find himself getting his impudent little ass fanned. Wake up and see this is why there is so much subversion in the schools. Of course this is still another chapter in "Why Johnny CAN`T Read'.
12:44 is on the mark....teaching begins at home!
12:44 I couldn't agree more! When I acted up in preschool, I got spanked and then disciplined by having toys taken away. I was raised in a single parent home, my dad wasn't around, and I'm white. I guess even though my situationw as the same, my ethnicity dictates why I grew up learning how to act. Not the fact that my loving mother took the time to teach me right from wrong.
And why should JJ be everyone else's problem. And what would you want done if the teacher spit on your JJ. Or hit him with a chair.
Actually suspending a minority child from school for throwing chairs an spitting on people is not only inappropriate, it is totally prejudiced. If this were a white child he would have been expelled and punished by law enforcement; a black child anly gets a one day suspension to cool off. That is absolutely wrong.
Permanently ban him from all school property - forever. and force his parents to provide monitored, high level home schooling so his education stays on a par with public schooking (not a very high standard).
All costs and administration needs to be the reponsibility of the parents - maybe they'll better understand appropriate behavior.
If you check out the author's web page for her motivational business perhaps you'll see a possible disconnect. And even though her article was in the Washington Post it look like she resides in Nebraska where the racial mix is different than DC.
She writes and talks about her absent father, but her writing and speaking were evidently not leaving her enough time to provide proper guidance to her pre-school sons. They are very close in age which kind of magnifies the issues since the younger is apparently using his older brother as a role model.
The kids are clearly acting out; whether it's because of absent parenting or some other factors is not my call.
Kids who are not getting proper parental guidance at home stick out like sore thumbs when they start pre-school and school. Parents of these kids are relying on teachers to do their parenting.
No kid is perfect, and even the best will have some moments. But what would her reaction be if her sons were throwing chairs and spitting on each other at home?
Throttle back on the career and spend more time with your kids at home and school, and then pick up your pen again.
Quit blaming the school for your poor parenting skills. What if your little precious throws a chair that strikes my granddaughter?
How is any teaching going on in these schools. Little Johnny Good Kid can't learn and who is to blame? The teacher?...the child disrupting the class? Come on...this is a no brainer. Give the teacher her classroom. Take the kids that act up out.
Sounds like future thugs great work parent.
My daughter was in SECOND grade last year and we heard about quite a few incidents, including a boy who used the "N" word multiple times and also threw a chair in class and was not suspended. Ended up asking someone at the school I know personally and was told that "they have to be very careful in punishing black students" because of accusations of racism. It's absolutely insane.
its not because hes black; its because hes a little animal!
When the chair thrower hits a kid with a chair and harms or kills the victim, the school will be asked if the thrower was persistently out of control. If the answer is yes and no suspension has been given for multiple offenses, the principal will be fired or sued or whatever. When a mother thinks a one day suspension for throwing a chair is too strict, you can see what schools are dealing with.
I think the people who commented on this post should go back and read the full article.
If you did then you would know that the writers complaint is not that her children were suspended but that other children (presumably not black) weren't suspended for doing things at the preschool worse than what her kids did. If what she describes actually happened then her children were singled out possibly because of racism.
This is a quote from her article:
"One after another, white mothers confessed the trouble their children had gotten into. Some of the behavior was similar to JJ’s; some was much worse.
Most startling: None of their children had been suspended."
Before you comment and put your foot in your mouth you should click on MORE and read the whole article.
Obama admin came out with a bs rule last year NOT to punish poor little black thugs BUT they will punish white kids ???
3:41 - Saying you're picking on me (my kids, my race, etc.) is a famous, but typically untrue "woe is me" tactic used by whiners. If you read the article you saw she too acted out as a kid. Obviously her parenting skills are passing on her own lack of self discipline. The kids will probably grow up saying they're being treated differently than other people doing the same or worse.
Two words - B S.
Mostly good comments.
Author specified what her kids did but is not specific about other kids did, per their moms. Unclear if they were in same class, same school, same teacher or just a moms group. Needs fleshed out. Did she ask for stats from the school, or just hit her word processor?
And there are high level efforts to basically 'explain away' the mismatch between the percentage of minority students and the percentage amount of trouble they get into. This covers discipline in schools, suspensions and court activities.
This effort predates the current regime and was passed into law before he was even elected to the senate. However, the current regime has determined that it is a law they will enforce even as they pick and choose among those to ignore and those to follow.
Net-net. Her kids are going to eventually get a pass in Nebraska because actually punishing them will skew the stats. Behavior that is reinforced is repeated.
First, he is three years old.
Second, 5 is school kindergarten entry age.
Clearly, she is using the system to raise her products of unsafe sex to stay home and pop out a few more for us to take care of, because she surely doesn't want to.
She has no parenting skills, and does not want any.
She merely wants a bigger welfare check.
This is the problem with the current welfare system, and Trash in general.
Did any of you even bother to read the article. If you did God help us.
Mark Thompson is working diligently in your school system, paid for with grant funding to change the way to many blacks are being suspended. Only white kids will get referrals to the office, suspensions and expulsions because we have been doing this primarily to little thugs for to long now. It's whitey's turn now. We still owe them 40 acres and a mule.
"Did any of you even bother to read the article. If you did God help us."
I read it. Can you articulate a point? Or are you just another liberal troll who can't argue a position and resorts to smarmy sanctimony?
7:26, I did articulate a point but it didn't get posted. Let me articulate my point again.
The comments made on this post don't match with the original article.
Look at 7:54s post and tell me where their points came from. Certainly not the original article.
Look at 7:40s post and tell me what the article had to do with Nebraska.
Look at 7:08s post and the inference drawn about self discipline. Very few children black or white have self discipline at 3 and 4 years old. If you don't believe me stand in line at a checkout counter. So what if she acted out as a kid. But 7:08 misses the whole point of her article and points the total blame on the author.
The author clearly states her son was wrong to act out and she punished him for it but she thinks the suspension was over-reactive (especially in light of what other children received for similar acts). Then she wonders what might be the affect on her children. From this we get her being called a bad parent, trash, welfare queen and her children called animals and thugs.
I might be a troll but I am far from liberal. However I do believe people should read an article and have some basic comprehension of same before running off at the mouth.
Read my post at 3:41 for more clarification.
That's just what she says to justify her poor parenting. No proof, just excuses. Maybe she is the racist.
I work in a local high school and I am already seeing the inequality in discipline. If you are a white kid and get in trouble you get nailed. Black kids need to get written up several times and get a slap on the wrist. Its going to get worse.
10:31 Great comment, now where is your proof. Oh I'm sorry all you have is a sorry A opinion.
PSSSSST
Keep him out of school.
It is a dangerous place for children
You mean 10:38? The proof is that last year I wrote the same black kid up 7 times for skipping and he received a student conference each time. When I wrote a white girl up she got a in school suspension the first time. So go stick your head in a hole and think everything is OK. This happens all the time. Ask any teacher that has a clue and cares.
I said maybe she is a racist. Maybe she is not. The only proof the author had was arbitrary statements from "white mother's". Maybe she made that up for a better story to take the blame away from herself. Her kids should be suspended for throwing chairs and hitting teachers. It must be OK at home. It's not a black thing, it's a bad behavior thing. She made it a race issue so that's why I made the statement " maybe" she's the racist. My proof is the blame someone else for kids bad behavior mentality.
No 10:38 I meant 10:31. That is why I used the word proof as did 10:31. Should have been the dead giveaway as to who I was addressing. You will note that 10:31 knew as they posted a comment again at 4:57.
I do have a great idea though. How about we punish every child equally.
10:31 The author was not making excuses for her children and she even self questioned her parenting.
You write of the author making arbitrary statements but then you turn around and do the exact same thing. I question your(and a lot of other commenters) biases and wonder about the possible racist attitudes that have been shown.
I know to take all stories at face value and with a grain of salt.
However for you to state "Maybe she made that up for a better story to take the blame away from herself" just boggles my mind. Why would she even print a story like that unless it was mostly true.
It sounds to me as if you are just making up excuses.
I suggest you and others do some real soul searching and also take some courses in reading comprehension.
Punish every child equally. That is whats fair. I'll tell you from working in the school system that children are not punished equally. I have experienced it first hand. The situation in the article is very typical. The first thing the parent does is say the punishment is not fair and makes some kind of racial excuse. I'm telling you that the minority students have to do much more to get an equal punishment. It is actually the opposite of what the article is saying. The author is not telling the whole story. If it boggles your mind that they would make up a story then you are not living in reality. I have watched kids do things, got the video from the school and the student and parent will still deny everything. They have no issue with lieing. As for the suspension, for any elementary student to get suspended they must have been misbehaving for months. They typically don't suspend them (elementary kids) unless they are a danger to other students. Those kids must have been holy terrors. I have seen people do things like this to set up a law suit. They are always looking for money and will use their kids to get it. This is the reality of our schools. If we don't teach these young kids now they will become the next teens to be walking our hallways with ankle bracelets because of armed robbery and rape.
8:08 Says "As for the suspension, for any elementary student to get suspended they must have been misbehaving for months. They typically don't suspend them (elementary kids) unless they are a danger to other students. Those kids must have been holy terrors."
You are a perfect example of what I have been commenting on about this post.
It is clearly stated in the article and even in some of the comments that they are preschoolers.
You come on and talk about them being elementary school children. When are you all going to actually read the whole article(just click on MORE).
I also agree there could be more to the story than what the author states after all every ones child is a little angel. However to blindly come on this or any blog and make some of the statements some have made is what truly boggles the mind. The total lack of reading comprehension is what truly worries me. If the presumably educated middle class people that read this blog can't comprehend what they read any better than this what hope is there for the poorly educated city people. In turn that surely means the decline of our great country is already well underway.
The funny thing is I felt the same way most of the posters until I did click MORE and read the whole article.
"I cannot go back and undo what was done to me, but I refuse to let it be done to my children.". This last sentence of the article sums it up. What was " done to me". What she did was her choice. What her young kids are doing (elementary or preschool) is a result of how they are being raised. She is not taking responsibility and never will. She has bleeding hearts to write one sided articles with no research and people like you to allow the problem to propogate. I feel sad for those kids. They have no chance because their support only makes excuses for them. My kids never threw chairs or hit teachers when they were in preschool, so there's no excuse for them to do so. Comprehend that.
TNS it's everyone's fault but hers!
A time out room is usually available, this issue is overblown and overrated.
Administration just needs to make better plans to handle these kids in school in a time out room and start teaching conflict resolution skills beginning at pre K every year on up to 12th gr.
It is not your grandmas classroom anymore. AND not "It takes a village". It takes a school to do the work parents don't. Schools are the new social services they feed kids and now must teach life skills since most men and society is neglectful of their offspring.
Just a violent people period.
Sorry I taught my 5 year old to thump any kid who spits on them, calls them racial names, offensivly touches them. I will also thump any Teacher that allows that to happen to my child.
I pay taxes so my child can go to school to learn and not be a
target for anyone.
My kid fears no one and respects all. He is in his second year of Tae Kwon Do. I will also by him a gun when he is old enough. Let the Crusades begin my brothers.
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