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I was listening to the scanner today and an ambulance got dispatched to Salisbury Nursing home for an elderly person with difficulty breathing. The ambulance responded and then about a minute later Truck 2 responded. They weren't even dispatched and they responded to the nursing home. Let me get this straight now. A nursing home is full of nursing staff and possibly a doctor or two. So with all that medical staff there can you tell me what a fire truck with a few firemen are going to do that the medical staff at the nursing home can't do? While the ambulance and fire truck were at the nursing home another ambulance call was dispatched to the same nursing home for a patient with a distended abdomen. Well guess what there was nothing for them to do at the first call so the paid fireman went to see the patient with the distended abdomen and they got a second incident number for that call. Two incident numbers on one call that they weren't even needed or dispatched on. How much did that unnecessary fire truck response cost the tax payers? Jim Ireton needs to put a stop to this wasteful spending in the fire department like he promised.
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Thanks Obama.
I understand allot of those staff, and as well with other locations have "ON-DUTY" those who obtained a 8 hour class for medical emergencies... similar to a "NURSING ASSISTANT" class...
The first patient had difficulty breathing because he was out of breath climbing to the roof in an attempt to commit suicide. The truck was needed to help him get off the roof, or at least catch him if he jumped. The second patient had a distended abdomen because she had taken a huge toke on a doobie and forgot to exhale. The truck was needed here to use its hose to flush out her stomach. Yeah, I know it sound dumb but it makes more sense than any explanation Ireton can come up with.
CNA personnel work there...certified nursing assistant...they may be qualified to open up a Gallon of Ice-Cream as they sit and watch TV with the Clients...
I think that is protocol for long term care facilities in thearea. As for Drs being there that is not how it is . Most facilities have Drs that make rounds once a day There usually is not alot of medical personnel around and many times the fireman assist with lifting etc And on that note there will be less staff available with Obamacare or if you are a certain age they will not take you to hospital but let you DIE!!!!
5:12 PM CNA's are just as qualified or more qualified than a firefighter. Medical care is their full time job where they do it daily and that can't be said for paid firemen. Go bash someone else with your God like attitude. There are also Registered Nurses and doctors on staff so quit denying it. This has nothing to do with Obamacare and everything to do with wasteful tax dollars and city resources.
I don't know what you mean by God like attitude but I speak from experience. I worked in a local State run facility for 30 years and I do know what I'm talking about Go try to intimidate someone else....I 'm sure you are one of those people that has something critical to say about someone's job performance except your own,that is if you have a job!!
I like the jump off the roof explanation... makes more sense than the farmin's story!
A nursing home is designed to keep its residents comfortable ONLY! They do not perform any emergency care to its residents unless its under doctor's orders. Such as oxygen, IV's, feeding tubes. They are not equipped to do anything else. If a resident needs more than this they are transferred to the emergency room at times by private ambulance and other times by fire department EMS. Most of the time FD EMS are requested because a private ambulance is not available to transport right now. In this case both patients were critical. Hence going by way of 911. Geriatric Nursing Care is much different than emergency nursing care.
Truck 2 had a paramedic on board and was on location almost a full 10 minutes before EMS arrived. That Paramedic was able to begin assessing the patients condition and begin initial treatment awaiting EMS arrival. Same goes for the 2nd EMS call there today. The paramedic was already there and began the assessment of the 2nd patient awaiting the arrival of the other EMS unit. The paramedic that was already there riding on the fire truck could have faced charges of abandonment in the eyes of the law had he chose not to stay and render care to the second patient.
The Salisbury Fire Department has had an internal policy for a little of a year that they would self-dispatch on all "Delta" coded calls upon dispatch of said calls. The Wicomico County fire service along with the Salisbury Fire Department are automatically dispatched with EMS units on "Echo" coded calls because of the severe/life threatening nature of the call.
Please ask to take a tour of your local fire station or 911 center. I am sure that any/all questions you have about how and why things happen the way they do could be answered in a way for you to understand.
6:26 Thank you
No need for me to say a word. Easternshorenative covered every base in an informative manner.
More like " A comment from another uninformed, know it all."
Delaware provides a lot of care funded by tobacco suit settlements. Maryland uses their money to teach kids how to brush their teeth. Bottom line, don't be a senior in MD, move to DE where they take better care of senior citizens.
Anonymous said...
More like " A comment from another uninformed, know it all."
January 24, 2014 at 7:20 PM
Honestly Mr./Ms Anonymous you have no clue. I worked for this nursing facility outta high school. I also was and EMS provider for a private ambulance service for the better part of 13 years transporting patients to/from this facility everyday. I have 20 yrs experience as an EMS provider as well as dispatching experience. I am more familiar with how things work than you care to give credit for. Standard Operating procedures are just that and laws are laws that all EMS providers are taught and must live by.
Again I offered earlier to please ask to tour your local fire station or 911 center and ask the questions you have. They will be more than happy to explain things you don't understand on your level.
9:10, we like your comment and opinion. Now, please qualify your ineptness that required follow up by a fire truck.
If you bothered to read my initial post you already have your answer why the fire truck was there.. No one says you have to agree with the answer. The procedures are in place for the safety of the patient. As I already said these are standard operating procedures already in place.
Let me get this straight; the responding ambulance has no paramedic? Paramedics only ride in fire trucks? The ambulance crew is nothing more than meat wagon drivers? I don't know about all of Maryland but in Somerset and Worcester if you call an ambulance you get at least a driver and an EMT and not a fire truck. They send fire trucks out for fires and motor vehicle crashes, etc. Why does Salisbury send ambulances out without medical responders?
Dear Eastern Shore Native , I can understand why you get upset.
However , you are not PA or a doctor , your lic. qualifies you to monitor and report.
The issue is a fire truck at a nursing home , sounds to me we need a change .
Another thing , we need to stop the BS glory for firemen and EMT people . It's a chosen profession.
If truck 2 could respond and begin administering aid before the other paramedics got there, then whats the big deal? The important thing is that the patient got the help they needed. See, thats the problem, sometimes people get so caught up in the rules, they forget the real purpose. Like missing the forest for the trees. Someone's parent or grandparent may have been saved. Jib well done!
I still think it's dumb that paramedics aren't part of the ambulance crew but have to ride the trucks instead.
It saves the city money to have untrained personnel driving the ambulances. When it is a serious call they take the paramedic out to the scene on the fire truck.
Why can't the paramedics take a taxi? It would be cheaper than running a truck to the scene.
Taxi? Why not a scooter.
Anonymous said...
I think that is protocol for long term care facilities in thearea. As for Drs being there that is not how it is . Most facilities have Drs that make rounds once a day There usually is not alot of medical personnel around and many times the fireman assist with lifting etc And on that note there will be less staff available with Obamacare or if you are a certain age they will not take you to hospital but let you DIE!!!!
January 24, 2014 at 5:29 PM
Guess what? You think wrong!!
There usually is a lot of medical personnel around and I don't pay taxes to have a $500,000 fire truck with $160,000/year paid fire staffing to lift a patient when Salisbury Nursing Home has about 50 to 100 employees on duty at any given time.
You paid firemen are annoying with your lame excuses to justify paid firemen jobs. This economy is so bad the City of Salisbury should do their best to recruit and retain good quality volunteer firemen to fight fires and not pretend they are paragods.
Anonymous said...
No need for me to say a word. Easternshorenative covered every base in an informative manner.
January 24, 2014 at 6:33 PM
However he was 100% WRONG. More job security excuses with the wow factor to Dumbo's who don't know any different. Isn't there another "Backdraft" or "Ladder 49" movie waiting for you?
Anonymous said...
Taxi? Why not a scooter.
January 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM
Because scooter seats aren't big enough for some of these Fat Arses I've seen around here lately.
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