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Friday, September 18, 2009

Should All Homes Have A Sprinkler System?

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Should All Homes Have A Sprinkler System?
Firefighters, Homebuilders Fight Over Sprinklers
DENA POTTER, Associated Press Writer


RICHMOND, Va.
-- Firefighters and safety advocates say they could triumph over the "last bastion of America's fire problem" -- the family home -- if officials require sprinklers in every new home. However, homebuilders warn it's not that simple and could prove a risky decision during a recession, adding thousands to the cost of homes as the housing market starts to recover.

State and local officials are now wrestling over whether to adopt building codes that would require sprinklers in every new home and townhome starting in 2011 amid intense lobbying from both sides. The sprinkler debate reached its apex last September when the International Code Council, which sets the minimum safety requirements typically used in 48 states and the District of Columbia, approved the mandate. The proposal had failed for years, but a pro-sprinkler group paid the way for firefighters and code officials to attend the meeting in Minneapolis, where they voted to adopt the mandate.

Homebuilders, who previously paid for anti-sprinkler voting members to attend, cried foul and are trying to reverse the decision. "We stand on the verge of actually making a significant difference," said Ronny Coleman, a former California fire marshal who pushed through the nation's first sprinkler mandate in San Clemente in the late 1970s and founded the group fighting for the mandate. He called homes the "last bastion of America's fire problem," where 80 percent of fires occur.

Nationwide, about 3,000 people die in home fires each year -- but fewer than 2 percent of homes have sprinklers. There is no uniform method of adopting the residential building codes. In seven states, it's left up to local governments. In others, either the legislature, housing board or state code official makes the call. The Minnesota-based Residential Fire Safety Institute says 400 localities have passed sprinkler mandates, several going back decades. Since last September, regulators in Pennsylvania and New Jersey have tentatively approved the mandate.

Michigan and Virginia are leaning toward rejecting the codes, but final decisions aren't expected for months. Meanwhile, homebuilders -- traditionally big political donors -- have persuaded legislators in more than a dozen states to push bills prohibiting localities from requiring sprinklers. Idaho, North Dakota, Missouri and Texas have approved the bans. Supporters argue sprinklers save property and lives, including those of firefighters who are at a higher risk in new homes built of lightweight, fast-burning materials.

This year, 18 firefighters have died fighting structure fires. Supporters also argue the vast majority of fires are quickly contained by only one sprinkler. The cost, which can average up to $2.66 per square foot, can be less expensive than cosmetic enhancements like granite countertops or whirlpool tubs. And insurers typically offer discounts between 5 to 15 percent for homes with sprinklers, according to the American Insurance Association. "Unfortunately, safety doesn't sell," said Steve Muncy, president of the Texas-based American Fire Sprinkler Association.

In Richmond, Va., homebuilders estimate it would cost more than $5,800 to install sprinklers in a 2,000-square-foot home. Many say that would harm lower-income home buyers. "We don't oppose fire sprinklers, we just want to make sure we aren't leaving folks in those crowded, substandard, really dangerous houses," said John Snook with Habitat for Humanity International, which built or repaired homes for more than 6,100 families last year. Many say the cost is worth it.

Fire gutted Jimmy Dean's 4,000-square-foot home outside Richmond earlier this year. He doesn't think sprinklers should be required, but he said it's well worth the $14,000 to install sprinklers in his rebuilt home. "I hope somebody will look into it and try to stave off what we had to do, because if I said it didn't hurt I'd be lying," said Dean, 81, best known for his 1961 country song "Big Bad John" and the sausage brand he sold years ago. Others argue smoke detectors are less expensive and just as effective in saving lives.

A 2008 study published by the National Fire Protection Association says the chances of surviving a fire with working smoke alarms was 99.45 percent. "When you continue to have these arbitrary requirements that have significant cost increase with no cost benefit, that's essentially making it to where people can't afford the home," said Steve Orlowski with the Washington-based National Association of Home Builders.

Smoke alarms aren't always enough, said Kaaran Mann, whose 18-year-old daughter Lauren Mahon was among seven South Carolina college students who died in a 2007 fire at a beach house in Ocean Isle Beach, N.C. Six students survived, and several said a smoke alarm woke them with only moments left to escape. Mann, of Greenville, S.C., has since become an advocate for requiring them in college dorms and homes. "If people are told these things do not all go off at once, they do not flood your home just because you burn the bacon ... it's an investment I think people would be more than willing to pay," she said.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

If all homes had fire sprinklers then we would reduce the number of fire fatalities as well as reduce the costs of operating fire departments. That would be a huge savings in tax dollars. This is obviously a win win situation for everyone.

Anonymous said...

This is just another government regulation. We dont meed anu more friggin government regulations. We are regulated to death now.

Anonymous said...

Not if you ever want to start building again.

Anonymous said...

Don't need any sprinklers cause
I'll be living outside in a tent
or something the way Obama and his
cronies are making laws and rules.
Next , the gas chambers for the older people.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This is just another government regulation. We dont meed anu more friggin government regulations. We are regulated to death now.

9:49 AM

You would be the first one blaming the government if your child died in a house fire that didn't have sprinklers.

Anonymous said...

GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!!! Sorry for the caps, but I wanted all to hear before they even get close.

My child died in our pool a week before his third birthday. You can't legislate away God's will.

Anonymous said...

Tax savings, insurance savings, life savings, property savings.
This was a topic a couple of years ago and even though the real estate market was pretty strong, the same argument (pushes up the cost too much) was at the head of the pack.
Insurance companies would give substantial discounts for homes with the systems, enough, I think, to easily pay for them within ten years. And then there's the improvement in the resale value.
In my mind, this is a no-brainer.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This is just another government regulation. We dont meed anu more friggin government regulations. We are regulated to death now.

9:49 AM

You would be the first one blaming the government if your child died in a house fire that didn't have sprinklers.

10:33 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!!! Sorry for the caps, but I wanted all to hear before they even get close.

My child died in our pool a week before his third birthday. You can't legislate away God's will.

10:56 AM

Oh lord, what an idiot. If you were paying attention to your child he would be here today. I hope and pray that you were charged with a crime or neglect. NO ONE SHOULD LEAVE ANY CHILD ALONE IN A POOL OR BATHTUB!!

God Bless that poor child!!

Anonymous said...

I have no problem with anyone having a sprinkler system put in their house, new or existing construction. It is their choice.

What I do have a problem with is the government mandating it. If it is a choice it is one thing, but the government is in too much of our daily lives now.

We have become a bunch of followers who accepts what the government says and just follow whatever they say like a bunch of robots.

We were founded as a country of people who relied on themselves with little intervention from the government. Today we depend on the government for far to much in our everyday lives.

And to 11:07 what a terrible thing to say to anyone that has lost a child. You think 10:56 didnt go through a living hell. You are the biggest idiot to have posted on this site today and quite possibly ever. Get your head out of Obamas ass long enough to think before you post such a stupid comment.

Anonymous said...

FACT! The water damage from freezing FAR outways the savings of fire damage, and the loss of life in a single family home with good early detection (smoke detectors) doe not warrent this level of cost or regulation.

Anonymous said...

How many of those deaths were in single family homes, WITH working smoke detectors? VERY few. How do you spell overkill?

Chimera said...

Great idea but who can afford it?Really?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

FACT! The water damage from freezing FAR outways the savings of fire damage, and the loss of life in a single family home with good early detection (smoke detectors) doe not warrent this level of cost or regulation.

1:43 PM

Hey Moron, where did you get your FACT from? You can't prove it so get a life you stupid idiot.

Early detection from smoke detectors? How many homes have smoke detectors? How many rentals have smoke detectors? How many people don't replace the smoke detectors? How many people don't don't replace the batteries in smoke detectors?

Here is my facts:
"Forty percent of all home fire deaths resulted from fires in homes with no smoke alarms"

http://www.jordannews.com/news/firefighters/forty-percent-all-home-fire-deaths-resulted-fires-homes-no-smoke-alarms-109

At least with a sprinkler system there would be basically no fire fatalities. FACT

steve said...

Anon 1:43-as a sprinkler installer for 20 years plus I can tell you that 99% of the freezing problems in residential sprinkler systems are caused by the general contractor or insulator not doing their jobs properly. Dont fault the sprinkler system itself.