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Thursday, June 25, 2009

Casino In Delmar, DE?

You better believe it! The same developer that brought on Waller Landing has proposed a Casino/Hotel Complex within the Town Limits of Delmar, DE., directly across the street from Delmar Raceway. The 100+ acre parcel is a prime location to attract Maryland residents and I have been telling each and every one of you, Delmar, DE. is the place to invest for many years now.

There is also another 700+ home project that was brought to the Town Council just recently, (that makes two of them now) just off Rt. 54. However, this project is a little closer to Town.

WARNING SALISBURY RESIDENTS! Consider selling you home NOW! I'm warning you that within 10 year, Delmar will have taken over ALL retail stores as well, it's only a matter of time. Expect to see a Mall Development in the very near future in TAX FREE Delaware.

44 comments:

FriendWhosADem said...

YOU COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT!!!!!
The fact that no mall developer hasn't built a complex across the line is remarkable.
If there is a better place to live I haven't found it....close to everything but away from everything else.
Joe and I are the smart ones!

Anonymous said...

Warning Delmar residents, Delmar will have all the problems of Salisbury if growth is allowed to go unrestrained. You don't think all the thugs from Salisbury will make the short drive to Delmar in order to rob, steal, and murder people? Delaware will run themselves out of the gambling business with too many casinos in such a small state. The sports betting will be their only savior.

joealbero said...

anonymous 8:38, Delmar doesn't have power hungry BOOBS on their Council. They will grow just like many other Towns but they are smarter than Salisbury. Heck, you might even see the smart/accountable ones give up on Salisbury and move to Delmar.

In the mean time, no one is going to listen to that kind of statement because, (thank God) we've been able to listen and learn from so many years of mistakes coming out of Salisbury. Thanks for the lessons.

Anonymous said...

It's not that I don't believe this is going to happen, but what amazes me is that people living in, lets say, Fruitland would travel to Delaware to do some tax free shopping. If I were to drive my truck from Fruitland to Delmar and back to Fruitland I would go through at least $5 in gas. That would mean that I would have to spend over $80 to start saving in sales tax to cover what I spent in gas to get there. It's kind of like those people that drive the extra 3-4 miles to get gas 2 cents cheaper which equates to a 40 cent savings on a 20 gallon tank of gas, but cost them an extra dollar to get the the cheaper station. Fortunely for me, I live close enough to Delmar that I don't really have this problem, but unless you plan on spending a substantial amount, its not really worth it most of the time. People should really do the math and think before they drive to the deals or the tax-free shopping.

Tim Chaney said...

I think you're right Joe, I'd even go as far as saying it's a wonder they haven't had a casino right on the line by now. Good spot for a Mall too.

Gambling, no tax shopping, cheaper cigarettes. Maryland taxes have become unfriendly to business and residents. Fed tax, gas tax, state taxes, county taxes, city taxes, piggyback taxes, sales tax, sin tax. Mayrland will probably have a sin tax on casino winnings!

People are Heading To The Border!

joealbero said...

anonymous 8:43, Perhaps you're missing the point. What I'm telling you is, people from Fruitland, Salisbury and many other surrounding areas that are SMART will sell their homes now and buy into properties that are an investment. Delmar learned from the many mistakes Salisbury has been making and their planning SMART GROWTH.

To buy a home in Delmar, especially a new home in the two new huge projects forthcoming is a great investment. Your property taxes are 70% less than Wicomico County and IF there's anything left in Salisbury to enjoy in the next 10 years you'll be thinking the opposite way. You'll be in Delaware thinking, do I want to waste $5.00 in gas to head into Salisbury and risk getting shot and killed?????

Anonymous said...

Maybe if you had a 30mpg car, instead of a 7mpg truck, lol. At least I hope you're not one of the idiots with a $40,000+ SUV living in a doublewide complaining about $4 gal gas. This is exactly why they should raise gas to $6-$8 per gallon is to keep these people off the road.

Anonymous said...

You better have a good police cheif because the thugs are coming to prey on you. They will come into Delmar and rob, steal, and murder. Then, they will go back to the safety of Salisbury where nobody is caught and the community will not snitch.

Anonymous said...

Pretty funny, just this morning the Daily Disappointment on their front page referred to Delmar as Salisbury's bedroom community. Guess we will see who has the last laugh.

Anonymous said...

Just a footnote! Yes, Delaware is tax free, however I purchased a television at the Fruitland Walmart
that was $20.00 cheaper then the same set in Dover. The time figured and gas to drive to Dover, in my opinion, was pretty much a wash.

joealbero said...

anonymous 8:56, we not only have a better Police Chief, we have a Police Chief who is willing to share and work with Sheriff Mike Lewis. We have a better Police Force just with that alone.

Anonymous said...

huh. i thought you were trying to get people excited about downtown & interested in salisbury. pick a lane already.

joealbero said...

8:57, try this one on for size. I have a 7.5 acre parcel of land with 4 ponds on it. We have a 3,500 sq. ft. home and a 2,500 sq. ft. Barn, (somehting like that) and we pay $1,200.00 a year in taxes!!!!!!

Share with us what you pay for your 1/4 acre lot in Wicomico County? How many TV's can I buy each and every year in savings alone, eh!

Did I mention I'm only 7 miles from Downtown Salisbury!

Anonymous said...

That "developer" Rostocki is a bad joke -- just look at how far the subdivisions he's pushing in Hebron and Delmar have gotten. The site in Delmar almost went to tax sale last week and the lender is getting cold feet, what with no sewer/water capacity for the homes. And the zoning is being challenged in the Circuit Court -- it's the "Salisbarrie Mall" all over again.

Anonymous said...

I got what you're saying Joe, basically that once Delmar becomes a retail hotspot that people are going to flock to the area. That is all fine and probable; however, there have been several failing communities in Delmar. Wood Creek is not doing well, Yorkshire Estates (I believe that's the name of the one off of Stage Road in DE) is a complete flop, and the Builder at Heron Ponds went bankrupt. There are alot of developments that need to build out prior to Delmar approving more. Can this happen? Yes, but not with the current housing economy. If the retail and attractions come in and the homes are priced reasonably then it can certainly happen. In the next 5 years? Definately not. In my opinion, 10 years would be a minimum for the turn around. I see no need to bum rush Delmar on hopeful promises or prospects. The retail stores are going to keep coming, but I guarantee that Delmar will not see the Casino within the next 10 years. And lets not forget, where there are Casinos there is inevitable crime. You're not solving your crime fears by fleeing the Salisbury crime to go to the future crime of Delmar. Delmar will have to seriously address the probable future crime in addition to facilities and campaigns to assist with gambling addictions.


This stuff could be good, but to go off and say "Consider selling you home NOW" based on a prospect is a bit extreme. If you look at all the avenues and possibilities, Delmar might not be to far behind Salisbury in the crime department.

Anonymous said...

9:25-

Street talk is that Rostocki is trying to unload that "Waller Landing" site in Hebron and other projects that exist on paper mostly. Contacts in the Wilmington area say "beware".

Anonymous said...

Let the thugs come cause Ill shot them dead if they mess with my town or my family. Some of us CITIZENS are crazier then the thugs when pushed into a corner.

Anonymous said...

I dont care what they build, just NO ILLEGAL WORKERS, Americans get the jobs or prepare for protest.

Anonymous said...

That "developer" has taken the Town of Hebron for a ride that's about to have an unhappy ending for the residents. Notice this year's UNBALANCED town budget while the town pays two attorneys to push the development of Waller Landing with an improper zoning ordinance. Just like what happened in Salisbury a few years ago., the public loses and gets to pay the bill as well.

Anonymous said...

With Rostocki, you'd better follow the money..........where does it lead?

Anonymous said...

8:51 AM,

I drive a 14MPG City and 19MPH Highway truck. At the time I purchase my truck it was the most fuel efficient on the market, and currently it is still one of the most fuel efficient full-sized trucks on the market! I would certainly drive one of those tiny hybrid cars if I could haul a ton of lumber and building materials with it. Some people still need the "gas guzzlers" to do their everyday work and make a living. And just because I NEED to use more fuel doesn't mean that they should hike up gas costs to teach me a lesson. I have a hard enough time making ends meet.


And Joe, it's truly great that the Police Chief of Delmar works well with Mike Lewis, but all of the development and Tax "benefits" you are talking about are in Sussex, not Wicomico County. Compare Apples to Apples. You can't praise Delmar, DE with facts that are specific to Delmar, MD. Now if the police chief works well with DSP and SCSD then you'd be getting somewhere.

Anonymous said...

If I could sell my home and move over the line and get out of Salisbury I'd sign the papers today whether a casino and mall come or not.

Anonymous said...

Funny how there is such praise for the Chief in Delmar when he's really not that much different than your Chief in Salisbury. Not available and does not live in Delmar, his business is not even located in Delmar. As far as working with Lewis, yes, he does work well with other departments.
As far as the growth in Delmar, this has been coming for a long time folks. The hold up was DelDot allowing access off Rt. 13. That was the big hurdle.
Rumor has had it (for a few years now) that the race track is going to be sold (if it hasn't already) to a mall developer. The same developer who built the largest mall in the country.
I'm surprised that the Centre at Salisbury was not the Centre at Delmar, on the DE side, of course.
I think they would have done much better, but again, that's when DelDot was not allowing ANY access points off Rt. 13.
I hope the elected officials in Delmar stay focused on the BIG picture and stay away from the thinking of "we'll worry about that when the time comes" like it used to be.
They ALL, both sides, should always be looking at the effects of their decisions for 5,10, even 20 years down the road. If they're not, the Delmar citizens will pay dearly.

Anonymous said...

While Delmar has potential for growth and development, the Casino proposal is BS by a snake-oil salesman from Wilmington.

Anonymous said...

Agreed that the casino idea is a pie in the sky, and probably isn't such a good idea anyway. The bigger point is how much better an environment for business exists in Delmar DE than Wicomico county. There is a pronounced anti-progress sentiment among both Salisbury and Wicomico planning and zoning....that does not (yet)exist is Sussex County.
The Hebron situation is of their own making, and they'll have to dig themselves out of the hole they've dug.

Anonymous said...

How are people going to gamble they dont have any jobs.

Anonymous said...

10:39 --

The Hebron town council doesn't know the first rule about how to get out of a hole that you have dug -- STOP DIGGING -- so don't expect them to "dig themselves out of the hole they've dug."

They didn't even know that the Town Charter requires a balanced budget, and now they are getting deeper and deeper with Rostocki with the State of Maryland on them for environmental problems at the sewer plant and such.

Anonymous said...

Lets see some of the biggest companies in America are, Alcohol, cigerrettes, medication, gambling, porn, seems to me like Capitalistic Corporations want us addictted to something. What a SOCIETY we have created for ourselves.

citygoer said...

My thoughts exactly 10:46. There are no jobs here and regardless of all the low paying retail that this will spawn where will everyone else work. Poverty is already high in both Wico and Sussex counties. Around here the cart is always before the horse.

joealbero said...

PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!

This is the difference between LEADERS and FOLLOWERS.

Leaders like Walt Disney have visions. They create ideas that FOLLOWERS critisize and say could NEVER happen.

Have you been to Disney Land? Have you been to Disney World?

Like the idea of a Casino or not, believe this Developer can or can't complete such a project, it's a vision and what better place to put it than the DE/MD Line!

I have been saying this for YEARS. Something along these lines will come to Delmar. It is NOT a crazy idea, like so many thought about Walt Disney so many years ago.

You want to talk about how people will go there if they have no jobs. GUESS WHAT Idiots, they'll be providing more jobs than any other local business besides Perdue. There will also be a Hotel and Conference Center there. Use your heads. It's positive economic & development, unlike ANYTHING you have ever seen in the past 20+ years on the Eastern Shore.

I'll await your comments.

Anonymous said...

Heres $8.00 an hout to work behind the counter with no health insurance. Dont forget to say thank-you. I bet the illegals will be jumping for joy. It will never happen. Plus its way to close to the high school.

Anonymous said...

Are we spending too much time asking if we can build these casinos that we neglect to ask if we SHOULD build them? Is the price of addictive gambling and the lure of the easy buck so great that we are willing to sell our souls for it? Look at Harrington, post-casino. Yup. Lots of development there. A McDonalds and a Food Lion and a small hotel. Big deal. Not worth the baggage. Not worth losing one's soul over.

Anonymous said...

You don't think having a casino is going to bring unwanted crime? That casino will be inviting criminals. Just wait and see. Take a look at Jersey and get back to me.

Anonymous said...

There is one thing people don't think about as it relates to undesirables moving across the line into DE. DE is FAR less generous than MD with it's social programs. If you want to be on the dole, stay in MD.

MD has a Governor who hasn't had a balanced budget in 4 of his 5 years. Who will bet that he won't fail in his 5th year as well? MD legislators took so long to decide how best to line their pockets with casino money, their window of opportunity is gone.

Anonymous said...

That casino is the BEST idea I've heard in a long, long time!!

Anonymous said...

We will do everything in our power to stop it, not here you are not going to mess up our little town.

Anonymous said...

To all the people warning Delaware about crime, let me explain one major difference.

In MD, the police officer fills out a request for a warrant, this is then sent to a judge who then decides, by what information will fit on a few lines of a form, whether to issue a warrant for arrest or a summons to appear. this process can and usually takes days.

In DE, the police officer picks up the phone, calls the magistrate, who then generally says, bring them in! Process takes minutes!

The crime might come, but it won't likely stay long.

joealbero said...

anonymous 12:32, allow me to add,

Have you seen the Press Releases I have been posting from the DSP? Not only do they expose crime, the really cool part is, they catch the criminals and we're please to show the difference in Law Enforcement Agencies here on Salisbury News.

Our hope is that this kind of exposure, (which is public information) will set the bar for everyone else, especially the SPD.

That being said, I want to make something very clear. I am in full support of the SPD with exception of Chief Webster. These are MY words and no one else can ever say anything different.

Anonymous said...

A lot of us like Delmar just the way it is. This isnt ever going to happen. Im going to start laying out the public info paper tonight.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Lets change our name from the Wildcats to the Casinocats!

Anonymous said...

I'm not surprised by the supposed Delmar people writing in already opposed to this idea.
Delmar people do NOT support Delmar businesses anyway! It's such a shame the number of business that have come and gone from Delmar over the last 15 years BECAUSE they were not supported by the community they were located in!
Wake up Delmar and buy in DELMAR whenever possible!

Chimera said...

LOL 12:09
People DO come to MD from other states because programs are more generous.VA is another state that does not reward people well for laziness.

A casino in Delmar will not "create" gambling addicts.They just will not have to drive as far.Nobody is twisting their arm and making them play slots.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I'm not surprised by the supposed Delmar people writing in already opposed to this idea.
3:49 PM"

Neither am I. These are people who STILL think they can leave their cars and houses unlocked like many of us did 18 plus years ago and then wonder why stuff has been stolen.

Anonymous said...

It isnt going to happen.