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Did any one catch the comparison of Pres Obama's speech to former Pres. Bush's speech form 2004? Is the current Pres changing his mind on terrorism? It sure sounded like Pres. Bush speech to me...
Reconciled1 said...
Did any one catch the comparison of Pres Obama's speech to former Pres. Bush's speech form 2004? Is the current Pres changing his mind on terrorism? It sure sounded like Pres. Bush speech to me...
9:26 AM
also check youtube for the inauguration speech, vs bush's inauguration speech, he said the same thing with minor word changes with the same meaning
Has their been another terrorist attic on US soil sense 09 11 2001?
Sand Box John
One was recently foiled in NYC by the FBI and NYPD. Attempts have been made but the mission of the terrorists have not been accomplished. YET.
He had that same thumb up his rectum for the remainder of his administration. What a legecy. Least Bubba Clinton had a Cuban and a Brunette as a legecy! Hahahaha
Are there more or less terrorists now around the world since 9/11/2001?
9:54 good question. Why don't you ask Homeland Security for the answer. If we're in "make the sheeple comfy" mode they'll tell you less. If we're in the "make the sheeple fearful" mode they'll tell you more. We will never know the truth.
Your darn right, mission not accomplished- theres a helluva alot more terrorist bad asses out there who need to be sent to their "final" reward. Lets blow em the hell out of here- now!!!
oops- forgot-we cant hurt anybody anymore- its just not fair. Don't want to violate anybodys civil rights. That just wouldn't be fair- would it? They can slit our throats but we can't give them a little water taste test. How wonderful
anon 9:54: IMO one dies another is born........
"Don't want to violate anybodys civil rights."
I guess you are blaming our founding fathers now for writing the Constitution and Bill of Rights? If you hate America so bad, I will pay for your ticket to Pakistan.
10:23am, I live in America, was born and raised in America and I'm not trying to kill anyone though I am considered a "Domestic Terrorist" by my own gov't because I support babies, the 2nd amendment and voted Libertarian. People who are not born or naturalized American citizens do not have MY Constitutional rights. They may or may not have rights in their own countries. Get a clue before you post.
10:57, you consider yourself a "domestic terrorist" becuase either you lack reading comprehension skills and can't understand the DHS report or simply believe the right wing propaganda talking points.
"forgot-we cant hurt anybody anymore"
Are you saying our soldiers are using stun guns in Iraq and Afghanistan? Or maybe rubber bullets?
10:57 " I live in America, was born and raised in America and I'm not trying to kill anyone"
...just the Constitution.
10:57, No you aren't considered that at all. Stop lying about the DHS memo on Right-wing extremism. Then you advocate for torturing non-citizens, as if that's okay in the Constitution? There is no "special clause" for non-citizens and cruel and unusual punishment.
And then you have the audacity to tell someone ELSE to get a clue?
Amazing.
10:57am here, commenting on the fact that people picked up and held in Gitmo were not drinking coffee at a Starbucks. I am only making clear that not only I support protecting this country by legal means necessary but that my rights are not extended to non-Americans. I read the entire DHS memo and it's not a talking point that I fall under alot of the categories they consider suspectible to violence and deomestic terrorism. I forgot to mention I'm also a Vet...read the memo not the NY Times and get A CLUE.
if that's okay in the Constitution? There is no "special clause" for non-citizens and cruel and unusual punishment. -Chuck
Chuck, I'm sure this is hard for you to grasp but there is nothing in the Constitution for non-citizens. My comment was to 10:23am and his lack of understanding this concept and this concept only. As for supporting torture, I don't but I also don't consider waterboarding torture, you can wrestle with that. As for 10:23am asserting that We Hate America because we don't support rights for non-citizens, I didn't even stoop to address that crazy nonsense.
to 10:57 Amen! for the rest of you -oh please, all you liberal pansy asses wouldn't know a civil right if it hit you in the face. before you can bat an eye, the gov't will be telling you where to go to the doctor, what car to buy- whose going to run the bank, etc etc etc and you worry that we shredded the constitution in order to kill the bad guy who has no rights in this country? how f------ stupid are you????? you don't see anything wrong with that? you deserve exactly what you voted for
We only had one 911.
It was on bushes watch ,not obama.
the picture shows he was also drunk that day.
The only words I see on this post that don't mean squat are....
Two Sentz
12:16,
"Chuck, I'm sure this is hard for you to grasp but there is nothing in the Constitution for non-citizens"
Exactly. The founders never intended to allow cruel and unusual punishment for non-citizens, or they would have said "no cruel and unusual punishment... except for non-citizens." The U.S. doesn't torture. You are advocating for giving up our country's values.
You don't think waterboarding is torture? Well, Ronald Reagan did when his Justice Department prosecuted a Texas Sheriff for torture in 1983 for waterboarding inmates. And, let's not forget that the United States executed Japanese soldiers in WWII for waterboarding US soldiers. Also, waterboarding was once called WATER TORTURE until the CIA conveniently renamed it in 2001.
Waterboarding is torture. That is no longer up for debate.
12:11,
I've read the memo, too. It does not say ANYWHERE in it that regular Americans with conservative views are extremists. It does not say pro-lifers are extremists, nor Vets, nor any other conservative group. I'm a Vet, too, and I'm not an extremist. You are willing to twist what it says to fit your political agenda (as evidenced by that snide remark about the NYT). But it does not say what you claim that it does. It says that those groups may be TARGETED by extremists for recruitment due to their conservative viewpoints. It's no different than the DHS memo put out in 2002 saying the EXACT SAME THING about Left-Wing extremism. You are lying or misinformed to suggest otherwise. And, considering you claim to have read the memo, I can only surmise that you are openly lying.
Chuck, I disagree with you again, because the DHS is supposed to be protecting Americans, they don't have time to look out for those radical groups would be recruiting which is why they sent the memo out to law enforcement agencies around the country, they are looking at the OBVIOUS-radical groups. The Japanese water torture trials are lies, not my reading of the DHS memo. The Japanese committed many atrocities including water torture and they were not tried just for the water torture, so you should stop telling lies. There is not one documented case of a Japanese soldier or leader being tried for water torture alone. The Sheriff in Texas tortured a civilian-punishing civilians that is against the law. The military uses waterboarding in some of its training exercises, should all of these instructors/commanders be tried for breaking the law that doesn't exist. 10:57 wonders what else you may not know but claim to know.
For Chuck and others, here's the truth:
In 1983, the Justice Department prosecuted a Texas sheriff and three of his deputies for waterboarding prisoners to get them to confess to crimes. The deputies were sentenced to four years in prison and Parker pleaded guilty to extortion and federal civil rights violations and received a 10-year sentence.
Parker admitted that he had operated a “marijuana trap” on U.S. Highway 59, arrested suspects, and, according to court documents, subjected “prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. “This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning,” the complaint said, which referred to the technique as “water torture.”
Prisoners who have not gotten their day in court are not convicts, they are civilians, by the way. Also there is only one case where a Japanese officer was conviceted for water torture and no other crimes, he tortured a civilian-which is against the law to torture or kill civilians. Also the Japanese water torture is not the same as water boarding. The Japanese forced people to ingest lots and lots of liquids to the point of distension then punch, kick, or hit the abdominal areas until the liquids came back up, enabling them to do it again. Some people did die from this treatment.
I don't care what they do to people to extract information when they have probable cause to believe the subjects possess information that could lead to the the prevention of terrorist activities likely to lead to loss of American lives.
enhanced interogation
Waterboarding-I think we should we have open hunting on anybody that is anti-American!
Who really cares what they do to the terrorists unless you're a freaking liberal? What about all the Americans that have been beheaded by these devils? What about the American bodies that we have seen being dragged through the Iraq and all the other terrorist countries? And you liberals think that I should care about waterboarding!!!!
Hell no...shoot all of 'em!!
4:03,
What you posted is exactly what I said. Oh.. you got me on the use of the word "convict". Well, I guess that destroys my whole argument, huh? WRONG. A Texas Sheriff water tortured detainees to get a confession and was prosecuted for it, right? Exactly. Thank you for proving my point.
3:47,
And you don't think that the DHS keeping an eye out of radical groups is protecting the US? Does Timothy McVeigh ring a bell? Biggest attack on American soil prior to 9/11? Anything?
10:21,
We are Americans. We are better than they are. We don't do what they do.
Chuck, the only point is that they weren't trapped into Gitmo and then tortured to the point of drowning like the Sherriff did in Texas. We are not talking about Americans protected under the Constitution and we are not talking about civilians. People captured on the battlefield without a uniform aiding and abetting the enemy should be considered enemies. Many of these detainees were armed and are known to have killed American soldiers. Many of those caught (on avg 1 of 7) have returned to fight against us. Only 3 people have been waterboarded and they were known and self proclaimed terrorists. Every detainee at Gitmo has not been waterboarded. You can think that as Americans we are better than that, but I am glad that not all Americans are that stupid. It's hard to be righteous and indignant when you don't have a head.
"Stupid"? Okay, man. If you think upholding the law and not torturing people is "stupid", then we're done.
You advocate a monstrous future where anything goes and you can explain away torture. I don't want any part of that.
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