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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Help Pass The Ammunition Accountability Act????

Joe,

this didn't take long now did it. The democrats just aren't going to leave well enough alone. Now they want to confiscate our ammo.

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

Scary stuff coming down tne pike. Maryland has to shoot this down.

The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition Accountability Act is being introduced across the country. Below is a summary of legislation that has been introduced throughout the United States. To view the bills' status click on the link above to the individual bills.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

If the track our ammo what will they accomplish? Nothing! I just did a research paper in on of my english classes and it was on gun control. The research that it did said that gun related incidents like murder, are down since 1989! There is no such thing as gun control. If they take away our ammo and guns, they dont realize that the criminals don't obey the laws any way. There is other ways for them to illegally aquire ammo and weapons! Duh! Leave the people defenseless, criminals will still rise and kill! Stupid Politicians!

Anonymous said...

bill is flawed

1. there is no manufacturer that makes ammo with serial numbers on it at the moment

2. ammo that can be used in assault weapons can also be used in non assault weapons. so how do you differentiate?

Anonymous said...

Example of Obama and the Democrats decietful ways. You have the right to own a gun and I believe you do. I will screw you on your ammunition and other needs to enjoy your sport, but I am not pushing gun control. I will get your guns through the back door and you can do nothing. HA HA HA

Two Sentz said...

Each year in the United States, more than 30% of all homicides that involve a gun go
unsolved. Handgun ammunition accounts for 80% of all ammunition sold in the United States. Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by
law enforcement. Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.

The bill does not "take away" your ammunition. It does prevent the sale of uncoded ammunition in 2009 and beyond. You can obviously still use any ammunition you have now and purchase in 2008.

Anonymous said...

this bull actually targets much more ammunition then you might think.
it even targets shotguns, as there are shotguns that are called as assualt weapons. how do you mark shotgun pellets?

also it ads 5 cents a round to the price of ammo. not really much, unless you thin about .22 ammo, and yes it can be put in a handgun, which only costs @ 2 cents anyway.
a 500 round box of .22 would go from about $10 to $35.
while i dont disagree better tracking methods need to be in place, i dont see this one as being the right one

Nick Loffer said...

Two Cents

This does not solve anything.

1. The bullet still may not be recovered.

2. Any criminal can mask him/herself by theft of ammunition, ammunition which is not destroyed, or in some cases, too stupid to realize that they used marked bullets.

3. Criminals adapt.

I have major problems with the language of the bill in the defining of "regulated firearm". I feel that such language introduces the potentiality of using such broad language to expand further into the attack on 2nd Amendment Rights.
I cannot support such a bill which has government intrusion into private companies.

Further the Bill introduces improper and gross Govt. intrusion into the private life of citizens. The data base will hold all the information of purchase by whom and the frequency.

More big brother, more big government, more chipping away at the rights that we enjoy.

Two Sentz said...

If you have a cell phone the Gov't already knows where you are. If you use a credit card or check card, or write a check, they know what you buy. If you have a computer in your house, they know what you look up. We are all aready in a database somewhere.

As far as: "I cannot support such a bill which has government intrusion into private companies."

No one likes that but the fact of the matter is many, many industries have gov't regulation. Is it fair that car manufacturers are forced to install seat belts? Maybe not but they save lives.

Besides, many things are coded. Did you know every single copy machine prints a unique code on each document.

I don't think anyone is claiming this will solve gun crime or anything like that. The bottom line is if you think coding bullets will help law enforcement catch criminals. More importantly, if law enforcement thinks it will help. I don't see it infringing on your rights. Except maybe the right to cheaper bullets.

Bob said...

Two Sentz.......I enjoy healthy debate.

I think any requirement for the registration of ammunition is in fact back door gun control. It will be another situation in which the only people being regulated are the law abiding citizens. Registration of handguns didn't help law enforcement catch more criminals. The creation of a list of "regulated firearms" hasn't helped law enforcement apprehend more violent criminals.

As a matter of fact the only thing that has been PROVEN to lower the number of violent crimes at all has been the recent push to recognize the individual citizens right to carry a handgun - which is in essence, defacto DEregulation.

You stated "More importantly, if law enforcement thinks it will help. I don't see it infringing on your rights." Would you feel the same way if law enforcement thought it would help to microchip everyone at birth? VERY dangerous mindset you have there.

There are very few people more pro law enforcement than me BUT we can't forget that they are a leg of govt. and we must be wary of how much authority we give the govt.

Two Sentz said...

All great points by everyone in this thread. I personally don't really have an opinion one way or the other. I guess I am leaning towards no on this bill but I am not a gun owner so I have no personal stake. I just thought I'd have a go at playing devil's advocate. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Lets say I'am a criminal, here is how I dont get caught

1) buy imported ammo, or have it imported, its not going to be marked, plus it will be cheaper.

2) rob the store, or honest people and use that ammo.

3) reload it myself, filing off the numbers, and nobody will know until they pull the ammo out of the victim.

4) use a shotgun, or rifle.

5) I can keep going but it is obvious this law only cost law abiding citizens more money, and is an utter waste of time.