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134 comments:
Honoring a legendary Fire Captain that many knew? How horrible. Good lord Joe this is pretty low.
During services for a LODD, I don't understand the point being made. I think it's an honorable thing to do, just as vehicles and personnel went to LODD funerals for police officers and FF in PA, NY, NJ, VA, etc, etc, etc. Again, so what's the point you're making?????????
Dave, did you guys pony up for the gas? Considering the SFD charges Pittsville thousands of dollars and Ireton is trying to get money from the County, it's a fair article.
Why didn't they volunteer their services to stand by and take personal vehicles to Bel Air. Doing this on the tax payers dime isn't exactly honorable.
You are a heartless bastard! Have some respect! It's not always about the money.
I'd be surprised if 10 people show up at my funeral.
You have no military experience, never worked as a cop, fireman or paramedic so you definitely deserve the right to open your big mouth about this. You have no class. And I signed my name, see if you post this!
It is honorable for brethren to attend a funeral. The folks who feel compelled should request to have their schedule arranged to accommodate such. Sending a truck loaded with paid personnel, as honorable as it is, is a slippery slope. How do you decide which to attend? How far do you travel? How far is too far? At what cost?
JT...?
Why couldn't they make the trip in a nice fuel efficient mini-van?
Judging by the FF post it looks like they tried to make it all about themselves. If they were doing the honorable they wouldn't have posted the pic. All it is is a look at me, I'm the FF of bel air pic.
What the problem is ? I think it was an honorable thing to do. No matter what anyone does there are some who will bash anyone for doing anything. They are usually. The ones who do totally nothing. Get over it and get a life. Good job SFD, much respect .
You and your minions have no idea about how the fire service operates in this world let alone the U.S.A. If any of you had bothered to read and it would be just like SBYNEWS to not include all the facts, The SFD has a member that is from BEL AIR. I am pretty sure this was done out of respect 1st for the BEL AIR Fire Department and 2nd because the SFD has a member that is from BEL AIR. This type of generosity is performed worldwide in the fire service. Quit Drinking SBYNEWS a kool-Aide and do your own research. The fire service is very rich in tradition and this is only part of it.
Let's see if this is posted.
They had to find A fill in crew as good at burning stuff down as themselves.
Joe, maybe you could hire the Labinal employees to work for your business. They know electronics so they would be useful to you.
This has nothing to do with the following story..however, I teach in wcc and there're a few things you should know...
BBButtt... We're so cool.....
What about MSP in New York for the cops funeral?
Butthole
But it is ok for MSP and other local agencies to send officers and deputies in marked vehicles to the slain cops in New York CITY?
J. Fisher
Ignorant fool. How do you know a ff sent it?
They know their rigs. To much wasted time on an unfamiliar rig. To dangerous.
4:19: The question being asked is were any members paid to do this? Second question is were city taxes dollars used for the fuel to get there? If either are true then its wrong. This has nothing to do with how fire service operates.
What is it with Joe and the firefighters? God forbid any of your properties catch fire.
Joe, you're as low as they come. You're a failure in everything you have ever attempted to do. Please. Die. Rot.
Joe Albero, you are a man that's got it coming to you. You're an old, out of shape weakling picking on guys that could kick your ass all day using only one arm. I bet you couldn't even roll up a fire hose let alone operate one.
Would've been honorable had they volunteered. How can you justify paying 5 FF (particularly when you just eliminated a couple paid positions in the recent past) and sending Salisbury's equipment and all the fuel costs to get there and back? Lame SFD and even lamer to publicize it and risk pissing people off...
4:19-Everyone is certainly aware of how generosity works as people are volunteering their time and costing themselves money in the meantime doing good deeds. Being generous means giving of your own time with no compensation.
It seems you are saying the fire service operates by being generous on tax payers money.
That's one hell of a note.
You have no idea how the Fire service works. It's called BROTHERHOOD. It's the respectable thing to do, the Fire service as a whole is a Brother/Sister hood you obviously know nothing about, we are a family and stick together no matter what. I don't expect your little mind to be able to comprehend all of that,
It's what we do, one goes we all go.... It's called respect.
AGREED!!!!!
Everyone wants to comment "it's not about the money"....reality is IT IS!!!!
Local corporations and businesses are closing. ...it is about our community!
Although I understand honoring comrades, take your own vehicles.....just as non-public citizens ddo when they choose too!!
The majority support you...good job SFD!!! These other folks only concerned about money...let them get some money from County Culver...only paint two walls in his office, we will cover city expense with our tax money.
Surround and drown.
There were other stations closer by to Bel Air that could have covered for them. I have no problem with SFD members going to a funeral. I have a problem with them taking a truck that probably gets less then 5 mpg and the wear and tear on the truck.
Oh yeah. WHAT IF there is a large fire in Salisbury. We need that equipment and personnel. That is what they always tell us.
I'm surprised they didn't take the fire boat. What if there was a fire on the Conowingo Dam?
Anonymous Dave Willis said...
Honoring a legendary Fire Captain that many knew? How horrible. Good lord Joe this is pretty low.
January 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM
Legendary my ASS!! You mean to tell me they couldn't find anyone closer to stand by??
We are all sorry about their loss, but Jesus do you think they have to stand by and then brag about it on Facebook?? WTF!!
Is that your real name? Why don't you pay for the fuel and for the price of that paid fireman?
JoeAlbero said...
Dave, did you guys pony up for the gas? Considering the SFD charges Pittsville thousands of dollars and Ireton is trying to get money from the County, it's a fair article.
January 18, 2015 at 2:59 PM
You are so correct Joe!! I stand by you on this one.
From the caption you idiot-it was posted by sfd.
Oh yeah, they respected him so much they couldn't take their own cars and spend their own money on gas etc?
Brotherhood as long as they don't have to pay for it.
Exactly. It would honorable if they did it out of kindness on their own time and resources, not for their own glory to be big city firefighters for a day with a look at me post.
Doesn't matter if the cities gas was used. Not one person said a word about the dead cops. All of you. Stfu. And the ff's stand for leos....where is the leos standing for the ff's on this matter? Oh that's right. Cops are only our brothers when it suits them.
INTERESTING how so many of you are FREAKING OUT over an article YOU put up on Facebook.
FUNNY how defensive so many of you have become because YOU BLOGGED YOURSELVES.
As for the Idiots commenting the MILITARY does the same for their brothers and sisters. Listen VERY closely to me. YOU ARE NOT MILITARY. You are NOT owned by the GOVERNMENT, like our Soldiers are. YOU are NOT placed in harms way 24/7. YOU are NOT shot at at any waking moment, overseas DEFENDING Americans. YOU are NOTHING like our fine men and women serving, yes, even you, in our military, so cut the bullsh!t.
Our HERO's in the military make on average $18,000.00 a year, a$$wipes. Do YOU drive down City roads dodging bullets or IED's?
Not to mention our Soldiers go WHEREVER THEY ARE TOLD, not where they choose. Their Families are separated for very long periods of time, not just in a 24 or 48 hour shift. They do NOT have civilian freedom.
I am absolutely sick and tired of rejecting your HERO comments comparing yourselves to Police or Military.
As for the threats to me personally and my Family and our properties, screw you. I insured our properties because of a-holes like some of you.
280 miles on a Fire Truck in one outing. That's a LOT of wear and tear on one of OUR vehicles.
According to the comments I've seen, I'd say the next time take a chase vehicle and let someone else close by cover that Station. Someone said to me, I wonder how many OTHER Fire Departments stood around taking pictures acting like they too went there to cover for the Station in Bel Air. Good question.
Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!
Me, me, me, me, me, It's all about me!
Look at me I am at a funeral for a Paramedic. Look at me! I don't know these people by I am here taking Facebook pictures of me while my volunteer station back home is scratching. Look at me!
Spot on Joe.
Two of Joes favorite people Cherry Cheeks Tri Townsend and David Cox. Search their names on this blog and you won't see any positive comments about them.
Cory Polidore also known by many of the paid farmin as Cory Pileofdogshit.
anonymous 6:16 said...
"Surround and drown".
So ALL of you know, this means the following.
A house fire that is already lost. No need to send firefighters inside because it's a total loss burning to the ground.
So, you want to threaten me, eh? You want to come and burn our HOME down, kill me, my Wife, our Grandson and all of our animals now, interesting.
Yeah, some kind of HERO's!
A Simple Act Of Caring Creates An Endless Ripple. After reading these comments I know that over half of you do not have an ounce of kindness in you.
anonymous 8:00, You forgot to mention how kind US Taxpayers are because obviously YOUR act of kindness was at OUR expense.
Yea mr albero, Thats brotherhood for ya! Brotherhood in there eyes is having a new shiny 4x4 and screwing there buddies wife behind his back.
Our ladder truck! This has to stop.
All of you firemen should be ashamed at what you are saying on here. This is not how real professional firemen act. You want respect but you act like school aged bullies and a 5 yr old girl throwing a temper tantrum. Makes me wonder how you treat people as in patients or victims of a fire. Grow up! Learn to be accountable for your actions. Don't post things on facebook so you can boost your ego then get pissed that people don't respond by putting you on a pedestal.
Thats quite original
Look how filthy those uniforms are. We paid all that money for a special washing machine and these guys look like crap. Where's your pride.
Oh yes, look them up and lets see what people have to say.... if you looked them up you'd see that they were never prosecuted, and are very well respected members of our community and fire service.
If Culver puts up a penny to these out of control firefighters I will never vote for him again. Enough of this waste of taxpayer money.
Oh my gosh you are complaining because some stains did not come out of their garb? Over the top stupid. You truly have no clue what they have to deal with in a fire...
These are their FIRE fighting suits idiot, not their uniforms.
8:29, I'm going to defend 8:17's comment. I remember doing a walk through and all the money they had spend on a custom washer and dryer for their uniforms. It wasn't for their dress uniforms. It was for the heavy duty ones you see in the picture. So you are out of line calling them stupid. This time you'll need to look in a mirror.
You don't "wash" fire gear, unless it has blood or fuel or something like that on it
8:38, REALLY? Is that so. Well, then I suggest you tell that to ALL of the Council Members your people LIED to them because I was right there when they said exactly what those machines were for. So, your LIARS now and THIEVES. Interesting
To the Idiot who just sent in one of the dumbest comments I've ever see on here referencing Soldiers pay, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
I don't know where you get your BS from but Soldiers do NOT go from $18k a year state side to $60k a year in combat!!!!!
Hey Dr. Fredericksen, this guy is clearly another one of your WBOE subjects. Can't wait to see what you deliver after Common Core in 4 more years.
Lyle Chipperson said...
You have no military experience, never worked as a cop, fireman or paramedic so you definitely deserve the right to open your big mouth about this. You have no class. And I signed my name, see if you post this!
January 18, 2015 at 4:02 PM
Lyle take your little wannabe firefighter's a$$ back to NY. You don't have a right to speak on here about what Salisbury does so get lost Bozo!
Anonymous said...
What about MSP in New York for the cops funeral?
Butthole
January 18, 2015 at 5:12 PM
We are not talking about the MSP Butthole. You are not a tax payer in Salisbury so you don't have a say.
Anonymous said...
But it is ok for MSP and other local agencies to send officers and deputies in marked vehicles to the slain cops in New York CITY?
J. Fisher
January 18, 2015 at 5:15 PM
J. Fisher this is not about the MSP or other deputies. This is not about the slain cops in NYC. This is about the Salisbury Fire Department and you don't pay any taxes in Salisbury so we don't need your comments.
Anonymous said...
You have no idea how the Fire service works. It's called BROTHERHOOD. It's the respectable thing to do, the Fire service as a whole is a Brother/Sister hood you obviously know nothing about, we are a family and stick together no matter what. I don't expect your little mind to be able to comprehend all of that,
It's what we do, one goes we all go.... It's called respect.
January 18, 2015 at 5:52 PM
There are firefighters in Salisbury that are hurting for various reasons, but no one is there to help them.
So much for the BROTHERHOOD!!
Anonymous said...
The majority support you...good job SFD!!! These other folks only concerned about money...let them get some money from County Culver...only paint two walls in his office, we will cover city expense with our tax money.
January 18, 2015 at 6:10 PM
This clown has no idea what he is talking about. He doesn't even know the difference between city and county, but they fee the need to run their mouth.
Anonymous said...
What the problem is ? I think it was an honorable thing to do. No matter what anyone does there are some who will bash anyone for doing anything. They are usually. The ones who do totally nothing. Get over it and get a life. Good job SFD, much respect .
January 18, 2015 at 4:19 PM
Tri Townsend and David Black can fall under "do totally nothing." Where are they when the volunteers scratch all the time at Station #16. Oh that's right, they are waiting to serve and protect some other department so they can put their pictures on Facebook. Look at me!!
if they are paid ff I hope they went on their on personal time.i have to take personal time off for a relatives funeral and use my own auto.
hey can't wait to see you and your boys out at the bars again.
Isn't that David Cox in the blue uniform? David Black is the guy that got arrested by the Wicomico County Sheriff's Office for impersonating a police officer.
Anonymous Dave Willis said...
Honoring a legendary Fire Captain that many knew? How horrible. Good lord Joe this is pretty low.
January 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM
Dave I was looking at your Facebook pics. The one where you were eating crabs was pretty funny. I kept trying to count your chins, but there was to many. BTW were you legendary?
Since you don't pay taxes in Salisbury you might want to mind your own business.
Anonymous said...
They had to find A fill in crew as good at burning stuff down as themselves.
January 18, 2015 at 4:44 PM
LMAO
Anonymous said...
Surround and drown.
January 18, 2015 at 6:16 PM
Surround and drown? What does that have to do with these pics in Bel Air?
Joe sounds to me that some paid fireman is threatening to commit arson to one of your homes. This is no doubt a threat.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
4:19: The question being asked is were any members paid to do this? Second question is were city taxes dollars used for the fuel to get there? If either are true then its wrong. This has nothing to do with how fire service operates.
January 18, 2015 at 5:22 PM
Yes David Cox is a paid fireman is Salisbury so Federal Law requires that he gets paid overtime for working outside his regular hours.
Federal law does not require he gets paid? If you have questions about it call the fire chiefs tomorrow and ask them or file a formal complaint. 4105483120
Joe he is an idiot. I wash gear after every two fires. Sometimes after one. Particulate residue can still be toxic.
No but I pay taxes to the state. MSP sent how many units and officers? Baltimore city sent motorcycle units that wrecked. So I do have a say. Waste is waste. Or ff's can do what cops do. Take a pick. All or nothing. That's fair.
Butthole
Again I pay state taxes. Same argument. I don't feel cops should've taken our vehicles on our dimes if you don't feel Salisbury can't support a fallen brother. And the fallen has ties to our community at that. Wtf is wrong with you?
Ask for the local Leos help ff's. Funny right! If the county allows another vote on collective bargaining I bet all the cops will be friendly with the ff's then.
10:58 Compare how much gas a vehicle or bike uses against a fire truck. One police car or 4 bikes out of service does not effect the service of the department. Taking a major piece of equipment from the city DOES! When you asked for the boat and more firemen all we heard was....what if....what if there was a fire at a house on the water......what if there was a major fire in Salisbury and there were not enough firemen. Well WHAT IF there was a major fire in Salisbury while this piece of equipment was way out of the area. You can't continue to waste funds and expect people to still support you. They are having enough problems supporting themselves.
So if a ff from Chicago moves here are we to send a turck and crew there? Are they attending the funral or manning the station? Is Salisbury the closet available? And why should my deficit tax money pay for them to man their firestation? I fully understand the brotherhood to attend but not to send, as a city resident, my equipment and my paid out wages to cover someone that distance. As a resident tax payer that is MY equipment NOT the fire depts.
I've seen some pretty ignorant comments about this post.
I've seen some pretty goods also.
This is my opinion :
I don't care why they are there, but I do believe the equipment from the city of Salisbury is not necessary .
A lot of you guys are way off , talking about the military.
The Fire Dept. is not the military nor should it be compared to it.
911 was long time ago , those firemen were heroes , now all firemen are considered heroes ?
I don't think so !
They are not police men either , maybe some think they are.
I believe they have crippled the cities with all the BS they think they deserve.
What's all this crap you guys are putting about about "fallen brother".
You work with a guy or he's 140 miles away , even then , he's not your brother , he may be a co- worker ,it's a friggin job , an easy one at that.
Let me explain something to the FD lovers :
1. most cities only need about 1/10 of the fire equipment they have.
2. 98% of all FD calls are for medical reasons.
3. when there is a fire , most of the dwellings or structures are a total loss.
4. most fire equipment is replaced because of technology , not because it is failing.
5. most FD have volunteers that could do the job without paid men.
6. and last , they are the BS artists of the century.
There are some things that you cant explain to the average citizen. Salisbury did the respectable thing and for the right reasons. Anyone familiar with Emergency services knows the procedure in a time of Line of Duty Deaths. If a similar situation were to happen in this area I would fully expect to see units from all over the State offering their services. You are best served to cease the anger and stop replying here. Preserve the memory of a man that gave his life serving the public and know your department did the honorable thing.
As someone who lost their Dad last year, an ex fire chief, I find this whole post offensive. The service the local fire companies held was of great comfort to my Mom and family.
Bryan, with all due respect, I disagree and allow me to explain why.
A chase vehicle I might be able to accept. However, to EXPECT a Fire Department located 140 miles away to bring a ladder truck to cover them is a line of bull, you know it and I know it.
IO understand the whole, you go, I go thing. Some are coming on here saying the gas was paid for, BS! So you guys are telling me if a similar situation happened here in Salisbury, we can expect to pay for all the gas from stations as far away as Bel Air?
I don't care how you look at this one, the SFD looks like a bunch of rogue out of control Firefighters who have no respect for the equipment we provide.
As for the commenter who says I should shut up because I don't pay taxes in Salisbury, I paid around $12,000.00 a year up until recently for 7 years, YOU SHUT UP. YOU don't even live in the City, nor does the majority of Firefighters. I've paid my dues.
7:26, I'm very sorry for your loss.
The "POST" was put up by the Salisbury Fire Department on Facebook. If you find it offensive, I'd suggest you contact them and tell them that.
Joe,
I follow your blog and many times I don't agree but we can always agree to disagree. The personal attacks are not necessary from anyone. I am a former member of a fire company so I have seen it from the inside. There is a brotherhood but it only comes out during funerals. There is so much back stabbing, cheating, lying and petty stuff that goes on that I would hope people wouldn't do to their real family. Also, my current employer has discouraged us, as employees, from participating in conversations such as this or social media, as it is a representation of us as well as their company. To see some of the comments of these fire fighters and then to see Bryan Records post, only continues to tarnish the image of SFD. They create their own image by doing stupid things like this. Maybe not stupid that they went to support a member that was from Bel Air, but why take pictures for Facebook, why take the city owned truck, and then why come on here and attack those that don't agree. You have created your own image SFD and other local fire departments. Not it is your responsibility to clean that up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Oh yes, look them up and lets see what people have to say.... if you looked them up you'd see that they were never prosecuted, and are very well respected members of our community and fire service.
January 18, 2015 at 8:20 PM
This person is referring to David Cox. Just because they were not prosecuted does not mean they didn't do the crime. LMFAO. Very well respected members or who's community and what fire service? Anyone that respects that criminal David Cox has a mental issue. Oh, you did forget to mention that he wasn't innocent and they didn't give him his fake police car back. Had to drive around in a beat up pick up truck for a while. Shame on Rick Hoppes for hiring him back. That left a scar on our community and our fire service. That is one of the many times Rick Hoppes should have been fired. And this is another!
Anonymous said...
Federal law does not require he gets paid? If you have questions about it call the fire chiefs tomorrow and ask them or file a formal complaint. 4105483120
January 18, 2015 at 10:43 PM
You are totally clueless about the Fair Labor Standards Act.
All of you are a bunch of inbred hillbillies!
Bryan Records said...
There are some things that you cant explain to the average citizen. Salisbury did the respectable thing and for the right reasons. Anyone familiar with Emergency services knows the procedure in a time of Line of Duty Deaths. If a similar situation were to happen in this area I would fully expect to see units from all over the State offering their services. You are best served to cease the anger and stop replying here. Preserve the memory of a man that gave his life serving the public and know your department did the honorable thing.
January 19, 2015 at 7:20 AM
And with the hundreds or maybe thousands of fire departments in Maryland it had to be the Salisbury Fire Department to fill in for Bel Air. Just like Salisbury did in Bloxom last year. You clowns are only in it to stroke your egos and look good on FB with more Likes.
More inbreeding happens in the city.
All these comments about a waste of tax payers dollars... Yes I'm sure the city paid for the gas, but of the 5 people in this picture only one is a paid employee of SFD, and regularly volunteers his time to SFD when not on duty. That's right people, these guys are volunteers, NOT BEING PAID!!! No, as a FF you would never attempt to use another company's fire apparatus. Every fire engine/truck is equipped differently, and different departments use different brands and styles of equipment.
8:41, I may be wrong here but I don't recall anyone complaining about paying Firefighters to be there. I believe the main complaint is abusing the use of a ladder truck, mileage and fuel.
However, you call yourselves PROFESSIONALS?
Let's see. If I borrow my neighbors riding mower, power washer, etc. are you suggesting I won't know how to use it? Mind you, I didn't spend YEARS in training like YOU people have but I think I could figure it out WITHOUT any training. Mind you, this might not be the best example but I think you get my drift.
For me personally, I think you are full of crap about, "Every fire engine/truck is equipped differently, and different departments use different brands and styles of equipment". The Fire Department is full of EXCUSES and I doubt many will buy that BS.
Regarding the MSP going to the funerals in NY, please know what you are talking about before you speak. A local charter bus company in Baltimore donated AND PAID FOR one of their own buses to provide transportation for the Troopers to attend the funeral. That is a FACT. All Troopers rode the bus together and there was no cost to the state or the taxpayers. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself.
If true this is very admirable and the correct way to do this and pay respects as a department.
Another fact regarding the MSP and the NY funerals, all Troopers who attended volunteered to go and were on THEIR OWN TIME. Again, no cost to the tax payers.
This absolutely true.
I scratch my head on the purpose of this post. You trash the SFD for helping another fire company during a funeral. A company that has a member who also serves in Salisbury and a department in the state of Maryland. A common practice for departments cross our nation and your questioning it. Your views certainly prove that you have never served in any public service organization and have no compassion for your fellow man. Perhaps you should call the BelAir Vol. Fire Company today and get their views on this situation. I'm pretty sure you will be an informed citizen after doing so.
You people should educate yourselves before commenting. All local Harford County companies were already involved in the funeral, either covering other stations already, or sending entire memberships to the viewings and funerals. So its common practice to look outside one's normal mutual aid. Second, Bel Air's rigs weren't even at their station. The fallen firefighter was from 2 stations, one in Harford and one in Howard County. Bel Air's rigs had to travel back and forth for 2 viewings and the funeral. So taking a solar powered car there from SFD would have done no good.
Chicago? Apples and oranges. Really. Folks. Wanna hate on the ff's be close with the pitches.
The damage to the bikes that were wrecked is more than the gas spent. Just glad they were from Bmore.
Again so did these firefighters. But nobody sees anyone saying the ff's were paid. Lmao.
Great job albero insert foot.
The SFD assisted the Bel Air Fire Dept. as two of SFD's member are or were part of that department for many years. In LODD's there are no boundaries or county lines. We must come together to support each other. Further NO ONE was paid a dime to go and support the BAVFC, and fuel was covered by the BAVFC. There is no danger to the city with one ladder truck gone as there was still one truck and a tower in Salisbury.
I think we should all take a hard look at ourselves and think what the men and women of the SFD, Salisbury PD, and any other department. We all take them for granted until we need them. This folks spend countless hours and holidays away from their families and loved ones to protect us.
When one of there own dies in the line of duty it is just the right thing to do! I think we should be focusing on how to improve public safety in our area and not focusing on several providers going and spending one day helping a fellow department.
1:59, Public Safety starts by NOT taking a monstrous ladder truck 140 miles, (each way) on ICY roads. Yes, the roads were very icy that way during their trip.
As for supporting your own, do it on your own dime and not at taxpayers expense, is all I've been saying.
As for your feel sorry for us story, this is the real world Pal and taxpayers are hurting. Sell your story to the ONLY people who support this move, your own firefighters. No One Else agrees.
There, noting little men, MY NAME is on my comment.
Anonymous said...
The SFD assisted the Bel Air Fire Dept. as two of SFD's member are or were part of that department for many years. In LODD's there are no boundaries or county lines. We must come together to support each other. Further NO ONE was paid a dime to go and support the BAVFC, and fuel was covered by the BAVFC. There is no danger to the city with one ladder truck gone as there was still one truck and a tower in Salisbury.
I think we should all take a hard look at ourselves and think what the men and women of the SFD, Salisbury PD, and any other department. We all take them for granted until we need them. This folks spend countless hours and holidays away from their families and loved ones to protect us.
When one of there own dies in the line of duty it is just the right thing to do! I think we should be focusing on how to improve public safety in our area and not focusing on several providers going and spending one day helping a fellow department.
January 19, 2015 at 1:59 PM
Big F*king Deal you lying sack of dog doo. I bet we never see a receipt where Bel Air pays Salisbury for the fuel. What about the wear and tear and that vehicle.
Was that Tower 16 or Truck 1 or Truck 2?
I am not hatting on any ff's. I don't appreciate the fact they felt it was necessary to take a $750,000+ piece of equipment on a 280 mile trip increasing the wear and tear on it using my deficit tax money soin a couple years it needs to be replaced with tax dollars, which are not there in this economy, by incrreasing fees for service or my tax load thus taking food off of my and my childrens table to pay for the latest in tecnology to pump water through a hose to put out a fire! Salisbury could have just as well been represented using one of the assistant chiefs cars! You will not convince me the closet standby units available were 140 miles away, that is a very large area to be fighting fires with less than skeletal equipment and crews!!
Anon 5:36 you got a bit too much knowledge there to be Joe citizen. $ 750,000 prices and Assistant Chiefs vehicles ? Unlawful common knowledge will get you in trouble there Joe Bob. Has Booger and Dru been feeing your head ?
By the SPD'so own comparison I think the military should now allow all platoon members and any other military personnel that have served with that fallen soldier a trip back stateside to attend those funerals. What the heck. It's about the brotherhood right? You ff are a bunch of whiny babies. Do Not compare yourselves to the military. You couldn't clean their latrines!
Hope your house don't burn down scumbag,
Define irony. A volunteer member who recently just criticized the career staff for driving around outside their first due area(in the city of salisbury), increasing fuel costs and wear and tear on equipment. Just so happens to be the "officer in charge" on a ladder truck going on a 280 mile road trip, plus going on calls while there. And it does put the city of salisbury and its citizens at risk, being that the volunteers fail to get out on calls more and more as it is. Then you go and take one of the two ladder trucks that may have a chance of getting out of the building staffed if there was a fire. Baltimore, Howard, Anne arundel, PG, Charles, hell even Frederick counties have plenty of rigs to choose from. I'll support supporting your own, but not at that cost
3 out of the 5 don't even know what fire looks like
The volunteer fire fighter who was in charged of this trip is also a career member in anne arundal. Thankfully they did not get in an accident or anything bad while they were out of town.
Aka, he goes to no fires
Tri Townsend will charge for photography and then not give you the pictures.
What a Freaking JOKE!!
Anonymous said...
Let me explain something to the FD lovers :
1. most cities only need about 1/10 of the fire equipment they have.
2. 98% of all FD calls are for medical reasons.
3. when there is a fire , most of the dwellings or structures are a total loss.
4. most fire equipment is replaced because of technology , not because it is failing.
5. most FD have volunteers that could do the job without paid men.
6. and last , they are the BS artists of the century.
January 19, 2015 at 3:50 AM
I am a paid firefighter and I have to agree with you. I am so sick of the BS that I have been looking for a new job.
Bryan Records said...
There are some things that you cant explain to the average citizen. Salisbury did the respectable thing and for the right reasons. Anyone familiar with Emergency services knows the procedure in a time of Line of Duty Deaths. If a similar situation were to happen in this area I would fully expect to see units from all over the State offering their services. You are best served to cease the anger and stop replying here. Preserve the memory of a man that gave his life serving the public and know your department did the honorable thing.
January 19, 2015 at 7:20 AM
Do you pay taxes in the City of Salisbury??
I didn't think so!! With that said you have absolutely no say in this and absolutely no reason to defend the wrong doing of the Salisbury Fire Department and that corrupt decisions with our money.
Anonymous said...
As someone who lost their Dad last year, an ex fire chief, I find this whole post offensive. The service the local fire companies held was of great comfort to my Mom and family.
January 19, 2015 at 7:26 AM
Sorry for your loss, but that is not our concern and doesn't belong on here in defense of their actions. I as a tax payer don't fall for pity parties to justify wasting tax dollars.
Anonymous said...
All these comments about a waste of tax payers dollars... Yes I'm sure the city paid for the gas, but of the 5 people in this picture only one is a paid employee of SFD, and regularly volunteers his time to SFD when not on duty. That's right people, these guys are volunteers, NOT BEING PAID!!! No, as a FF you would never attempt to use another company's fire apparatus. Every fire engine/truck is equipped differently, and different departments use different brands and styles of equipment.
January 19, 2015 at 8:41 AM
David Cox can not legally volunteer his service to his employer without getting the City of Salisbury in trouble. Not only was it a waste of fuel it put a fire truck/ladder truck out of service for many hours. It also put unnecessary wear and tear on the fire truck when the city already has multiple fire apparatus and ambulances out of service every single day of the week. The tax payers are paying thousands upon thousands of dollars in hard earned tax dollars on repairs. This corruption has to end.
Anonymous said...
Federal law does not require he gets paid? If you have questions about it call the fire chiefs tomorrow and ask them or file a formal complaint. 4105483120
January 18, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Says who? You? You obviously don't know anything about the Fair Labor Standards Act. So you want us to call the fire chiefs office if we have any questions? So fatso Hoppes can lie to us? You're a special kind of idiot!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's all this crap you guys are putting about about "fallen brother".
You work with a guy or he's 140 miles away , even then , he's not your brother , he may be a co- worker ,it's a friggin job , an easy one at that.
January 19, 2015 at 3:39 AM
Fallen Brother. LMAO. That back stabbing job is no brotherhood. You are correct it's a job and those back stabbers will do anything to sleep with their 'brothers' wife, sister or girlfriend. Don't trust them.
Anonymous said...
No but I pay taxes to the state. MSP sent how many units and officers? Baltimore city sent motorcycle units that wrecked. So I do have a say. Waste is waste. Or ff's can do what cops do. Take a pick. All or nothing. That's fair.
Butthole
January 18, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Hey Butthole we are not talking about Baltimore City and the MSP and I doubt seriously you pay state taxes. How do you pay state taxes?
No it's not all or none. In Salisbury it better be none and I can guarantee you in 2015 Jake Day and Jim Ireton will have to answer to this waste if they want to get re-elected.
Anonymous said...
Again I pay state taxes. Same argument. I don't feel cops should've taken our vehicles on our dimes if you don't feel Salisbury can't support a fallen brother. And the fallen has ties to our community at that. Wtf is wrong with you?
January 18, 2015 at 11:01 PM
No WTF is wrong with you? No one has proven what ties the SFD has to Bel Air. Either way it is unjustifiable.
Anonymous said...
I scratch my head on the purpose of this post. You trash the SFD for helping another fire company during a funeral. A company that has a member who also serves in Salisbury and a department in the state of Maryland. A common practice for departments cross our nation and your questioning it. Your views certainly prove that you have never served in any public service organization and have no compassion for your fellow man. Perhaps you should call the BelAir Vol. Fire Company today and get their views on this situation. I'm pretty sure you will be an informed citizen after doing so.
January 19, 2015 at 9:22 AM
The By-Laws of the Salisbury Fire Department forbid an active member from serving as a member of another another fire department.
Noww please GTH and go away with your guilt trip.
Joe Said...
As for the commenter who says I should shut up because I don't pay taxes in Salisbury, I paid around $12,000.00 a year up until recently for 7 years, YOU SHUT UP. YOU don't even live in the City, nor does the majority of Firefighters. I've paid my dues.
January 19, 2015 at 7:26 AM
Not one paid fireman lives in the city and pays City of Salisbury taxes. If they say they do then tell us who it is and their address and we can look it up on the Maryland state database.
January 19, 2015 at 8:16 AM
Well said. Bravo!!
JoeAlbero said...
1:59, Public Safety starts by NOT taking a monstrous ladder truck 140 miles, (each way) on ICY roads. Yes, the roads were very icy that way during their trip.
As for supporting your own, do it on your own dime and not at taxpayers expense, is all I've been saying.
As for your feel sorry for us story, this is the real world Pal and taxpayers are hurting. Sell your story to the ONLY people who support this move, your own firefighters. No One Else agrees.
There, noting little men, MY NAME is on my comment.
January 19, 2015 at 2:04 PM
Well put Joe, Spot On!!
Anonymous said...
The damage to the bikes that were wrecked is more than the gas spent. Just glad they were from Bmore.
January 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM
Your point is invalid.
Matt B. said...
You people should educate yourselves before commenting. All local Harford County companies were already involved in the funeral, either covering other stations already, or sending entire memberships to the viewings and funerals. So its common practice to look outside one's normal mutual aid. Second, Bel Air's rigs weren't even at their station. The fallen firefighter was from 2 stations, one in Harford and one in Howard County. Bel Air's rigs had to travel back and forth for 2 viewings and the funeral. So taking a solar powered car there from SFD would have done no good.
January 19, 2015 at 10:02 AM
As a member of the fire service all I have to say is BULLSH!T. We use locals for our funerals and so do you. These clowns from Salisbury just wanted to go their with their look at me I'm a Hero complex and I will be posting on FB for everyone to see how cool I am.
Anonymous said...
Anon 5:36 you got a bit too much knowledge there to be Joe citizen. $ 750,000 prices and Assistant Chiefs vehicles ? Unlawful common knowledge will get you in trouble there Joe Bob. Has Booger and Dru been feeing your head ?
January 19, 2015 at 6:46 PM
Hey January 19, 2015 at 8:16 AM this is that brotherhood you were referring to. See how this immature fireman is trashing two retired firemen by calling them childish names and accusing them of being involved in this discussion. I am sure they are enjoying their retirement and staying away from this immature BS.
So much for that so called brotherhood in the Salisbury Fire Department.
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