- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 20:33:29Nature: Subject FallenCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 20:12:10Nature: Sick SubjectCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 18:36:38Nature: Difficulty BreathingCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 18:36:35Nature: Difficulty BreathingCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 17:10:51Nature: Medical AssistAddress: 2311 Hudson Dr Salisbury, MD 21801
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 16:58:23Nature: Pi AccidentAddress: Old Ocean City Rd and merritt Mill Rd Salisbury, MD 21801
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 15:42:01Nature: Chest PainCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 14:25:47Nature: Subject FallenCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 12:31:31Nature: Pi AccidentAddress: Zion Rd and beaglin Park Dr Salisbury, MD 21802
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 12:31:30Nature: Pi AccidentCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 12:20:57Nature: Unconscious SubjectCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 11:41:13Nature: ChokingCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 10:13:52Nature: Pi AccidentCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 09:38:45Nature: Difficulty BreathingCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 08:26:50Nature: Sick SubjectCity: Salisbury
- Tuesday October, 22 2013 @ 02:36:13Nature: Sick SubjectCity: Salisbury
38 comments:
What is your point in publishing these calls?
Yes what is the point ? This information is posted on the fire departments web site for those who are interested. I have a hard time understanding the negative post that are written in reference to our firefighters. I feel they do a wonderful job. Please explain.
I'd be HAPPY to do so.
When I started SBYNews almost 10 years ago, one of the things that was never published were Police Reports.
I started publishing them because I knew just how bad crime was but the Mayor and Police Chief didn't want the public aware.
It only took about two years before we learned Salisbury, (per capita) was the 4th most dangerous city in America.
It may have taken quite a few years of publishing the crime but eventually the local msm finally started publishing the same information on a daily basis, the public had every right to know.
So do tell me WHY are you challenging me/us as to why we are simply providing the very same information that is PUBLIC and published on your own Website? Don't you feel the public should also be EDUCATED as to all of the MILLIONS of dollars being spent on salaries, equipment and buildings the mere FACT that the PAID SFD is a scam. YOUR OWN information proves it.
Shoot yourself in the foot, not the messenger. Recruit VOLUNTEERS and stop scamming the public.
I fail to see how paid firefighters with what I'm told is a staff of unknown amounts of members is a scam. It has been stated here that volunteers have to work and cant leave for calls. I get that. We need someone to handle emergencies right ? A crew or staff of paid firefighters is dependable number of people ready to respond in my mind. It has also been stated here that these firefighters re also trained as EMT's and Paramedics. One person even stated the insurance underwriters recommend some paid firemen along with Volunteers. The list of calls look quite busy for our town from my view. I still don't understand your view.
anonymous 1:18, OK, then YOU tell me how many chase vehicles the SFD has.
YOU tell me how many PAID Firefighters Salisbury has?
YOU tell me how much the City budgets for the SFD?
Now, take a look back at how many fires there are in the City.
Until YOU are fully educated, IT'S A SCAM.
If you really knew as much as you thought you did the story would be different. You would have to be on the inside to see what happens and by who. I am a local volunteer who is very familiar with Salisbury. The real truth is there aren't nearly enough firefighters, paramedics or police officers to keep pace with the action in Salisbury. I don't know if you listen to a scanner, but Salisbury is always running calls. The run log you post doesn't touch what goes on in a days time. Forget what the computer says. I'm telling you its wrong. I never see you mention equipment checks, maintenance, fire prevention and training to go along with the calls Please take the time to get the real story. Your doing yourself and their members a dis-service.
ANONYMOUS 1:57, answer the above questions then.
Don't you have anything good to say about the fire department ? They cant be all bad.
anonymous 2:20, Is that all you've got?
Ladies & Gentlemen, notice how not one of them have answered my above questions.
I have a LOT of respect for many Firefighters, including paid Firefighters.
I believe in accountability, especially when I am paying several thousand dollars a year in City Taxes.
ANSWER MY ABOVE QUESTIONS.
Your statements contradict yourself. You have friends in the fire department and respect them and call their jobs a scam and should eliminate them. There have been paid firemen for many years and nobody has complained except you. Seems to me the city leaders determined there was a need or else there would not be any.
I'll bet your so called friends in the fire department love you after reading this.
There is no questioning the fact that previous administrations as far back as the W Paul Martin administration have shown disregard is keeping the city's infrastructure equal or ahead of the city's annexations. The call volumes and response times to these calls speaks for itself as far as lack of law enforcement goes. When Hunter Nelms was elected Sheriff of Wicomico County he moved his department into more of a law enforcement role vs. just providing court security and paper service. Over his tenure he increased his officer/vehicle presence exponentially. The SPD administration and city administrations have failed miserably in keeping up with the demands. The fire department on the other hand has done what was necessary to keep up with the expansive population. How can you argue that? Sure they have "take home" vehicles. There is 1 for the fire chief, 1 for the deputy fire chief 1 for the fire safety officer and 1 for a volunteer assistant chief. This is standard in any paid fire department in the U.S.A. You will be hard pressed to find a municipal paid fire department that does not have take home vehicles.
anonymous 2:39 & 2:40, My "friends" in the Fire Departments respect my position. Once again, not one of you are man enough to answer my questions.
Amen Joe- they are afraid of you and your respected position in the community. Is their an " Annual Report" issued by the SFD that accounts for their performance and actions over the last year(s)? It usually breaks down each aspect of the department- suppression, ems, training, etc... along with budget items- funding, where money spent,cost of each call, apparatus cost and depreciation. YES JOE, WHERE ARE NUMBERS AND WHERE ARE THE ANNUAL REPORTS.THE SFD NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF SALISBURY.
2:42, how many of chiefs live out of state? The sheriffs deputies have to live in the county and the salisbury police have to live in the city.
anonymous 2:47, Very good question.
A quick check of the SFD web site shows 2815 fire calls and 8255 Medical calls in 2012. 2211 fire calls and 6472 medical so far in 2013. There are around 60 some paid firemen and some office staff. You'll have to ask the mayor what their budget is. It takes money to run a fire department right. My fire company struggles with enough funding just like many others.
Bill C. said...
If you really knew as much as you thought you did the story would be different. You would have to be on the inside to see what happens and by who. I am a local volunteer who is very familiar with Salisbury. The real truth is there aren't nearly enough firefighters, paramedics or police officers to keep pace with the action in Salisbury. I don't know if you listen to a scanner, but Salisbury is always running calls. The run log you post doesn't touch what goes on in a days time. Forget what the computer says. I'm telling you its wrong. I never see you mention equipment checks, maintenance, fire prevention and training to go along with the calls Please take the time to get the real story. Your doing yourself and their members a dis-service.
October 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Billy you don't live locally and you haven't for many years. You are full of crap and you are nothing but a wannabe just like your father. Where's the cameral? Look at me! Look at me!
Joe you have these paid firemen worked up don't you. Great job and keep up the good work.
Car 16 is responding with Assistant Chief 2? David Insley has been promoted to Assistant Chief?
Allow me to put my 2 cents worth in from an insurance business point of view. Fire department across the country are rated by what is called and ISO rating. Cities, towns and counties insurance premiums are determined by the ISO rating. Career and volunteers staff, water supply, apparatus, response times and training are all factored in. The amount of fire loss in property clearly makes a difference and a departments ability to make all those factors work is the final piece of the puzzle.
Insurance Underwriters recommend staffing levels among the other listed criteria to achieve insurance rates to the residents. A day or year with few if any fires is a good thing in the eyes of governments and citizens. I know for a fact that the underwriters recommendations call for a staffing of paid firefighters in Salisbury and have for some time.
Its like that fire extinguisher next to your stove. You may never need it, but your insurance rates are lowered if you tell your insurance company. Its the same with paid firefighters. You would not want to see the insurance rates if you did away with them.
Salisbury FD 66 Career firefighters 120 Volunteer.
3 Stations
5 Engines
3 Ladders
5 Ambulances
2 Brush Trucks
1 Squad
1 Haz Mat
1 Dive Unit
1 Fire Boat
1 Rescue Boat
1 Command Unit
3 Chief Officer Vehicles
1 Safety Officer Car
Annual Budget 7.1 Million including utilities, fuel, maintenance, salaries and equipment.
All information available online.
anonymous 4:53, where's the chase vehicles? Thank you, by the way.
As far as I can remember, David See was the last paid Fire Chief that lived out of state. Hoppes lives in Wicomico County, Tull lives in the county. The Safety Officer Officer (Smith) lives in the area of the old Salisbury Mall. The Assistant Chief 2 vehicle is rotated between the volunteer and paid Assistant Chiefs. Darrin Scott is the only paid Assistant Chief that live out of state and that's on the Delaware side of Delmar by the Delmar Fire Dept. Again, Assistant Chief 2 is rotated amongst those I have stated. THESE ARE THE ONLY "CHASE" VEHICLES THERE ARE. The training officer used to have a vehicle assigned to them and the Fire Safety Inspectors had a vehicle to use BUT ONLY WHILE OFFICIALLY ON-DUTY.
How do all the surrounding departments manage to do without any paid firemen? I know they don't get as many calls but here are more people in Salisbury which means they should have more volunteers. Should the county make sure all departments are staffed with paid firemen to make it fair to all citizens?
The term chase unit as you call it does not exist. A general alarm call for service would receive a Chief on duty in command, Deputy Chief or another Assistant Chief and Safety officer. The Chief only responds to major incidents. The county fire companies provide EMS chase units for the paid Paramedics on duty. Not the city.
I also want to know what you are refering to as a chase vehicle. I always thought you posted these to let people know there are no fires so really dont need a paid fire department.
Someone posted 2211 fire calls so far this yera. What constitutes a fire call? Does a fire truck respond to a person having difficlty breathing? I am sure a truck should respond to a car accident... but how many?? I think the fire calls are way overstated, would love to know how many actually involved a fire. Thats my two cents
First off, I have no qualms with the fire dept. (other than sending every piece of equipment in town for a medical assist). Now, is it against HIPPA to list the address of a medical call. I can understand it on an personal accident call but not a call to anyone's home. I just feel it violates personal information.
Anonymous said...
2:42, how many of chiefs live out of state? The sheriffs deputies have to live in the county and the salisbury police have to live in the city.
October 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM
Darrin Scott lives in Delmar Delaware, Rick Hoppes lives in Parsonsburg on Waste Gate Road(HeHe), John Tull lives in the county. Jim Gladwell lives in the County, B. Records lives in the county, Chris O'Barski lives in Fruitland and Mike Donaway lives in Powellville. Not one other fire department employee lives in the city limits or even near.
Bill C. said...
A quick check of the SFD web site shows 2815 fire calls and 8255 Medical calls in 2012. 2211 fire calls and 6472 medical so far in 2013. There are around 60 some paid firemen and some office staff. You'll have to ask the mayor what their budget is. It takes money to run a fire department right. My fire company struggles with enough funding just like many others.
October 23, 2013 at 2:49 PM
If you were as smart as you try to pretend you are you would know that the budget could be found on line.
Anonymous said...
Allow me to put my 2 cents worth in from an insurance business point of view. Fire department across the country are rated by what is called and ISO rating. Cities, towns and counties insurance premiums are determined by the ISO rating. Career and volunteers staff, water supply, apparatus, response times and training are all factored in. The amount of fire loss in property clearly makes a difference and a departments ability to make all those factors work is the final piece of the puzzle.
Insurance Underwriters recommend staffing levels among the other listed criteria to achieve insurance rates to the residents. A day or year with few if any fires is a good thing in the eyes of governments and citizens. I know for a fact that the underwriters recommendations call for a staffing of paid firefighters in Salisbury and have for some time.
Its like that fire extinguisher next to your stove. You may never need it, but your insurance rates are lowered if you tell your insurance company. Its the same with paid firefighters. You would not want to see the insurance rates if you did away with them.
October 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Damage control from a paid fireman.
One key word you put in here hit me like a ton of bricks.
"Recommend"
Anonymous said...
How do all the surrounding departments manage to do without any paid firemen? I know they don't get as many calls but here are more people in Salisbury which means they should have more volunteers. Should the county make sure all departments are staffed with paid firemen to make it fair to all citizens?
October 23, 2013 at 5:35 PM
LMAO
Because there is no need for paid firemen anywhere in this county.
Someone posted just above that there were 120 volunteer firemen. That is very incorrect. There are only a few volunteer firemen and Rick Hoppes has done nothing to recruit and retain good volunteers. Some paid men get on here and rag about the volunteers. If there are dead beats then get rid of them. Where are all the advertisements for volunteers? There are none. If there were 120 real volunteers then there wouldn't be a need for paid firemen. But on a side note there are no real fires so there is no need for all those paid firemen.
One thing the county can do is allow multiple responses for most calls and the first fire truck that gets out takes the call if there is a problem with the volunteers getting out.
Station 2 and Station 2's ambulance just got dispatched for a maternity patient at the detention center. The ambulance is responding and so is the paid fire engine crew from Station 16. Not only is the paid fire crew responding so is the volunteer fire engine crew from Station 2 responding. Do you really need an ambulance and 2 fire trucks with all those fireman responding on an ambulance call for a pregnant prisoner?
HaHaHa the volunteer Engine 2 beat the paid fire crew to the detention center and established command!! BAM!!
Anonymous said...
The term chase unit as you call it does not exist. A general alarm call for service would receive a Chief on duty in command, Deputy Chief or another Assistant Chief and Safety officer. The Chief only responds to major incidents. The county fire companies provide EMS chase units for the paid Paramedics on duty. Not the city.
October 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM
The chief only responds to major incidents so you are admitting the chief rarely ever responds therefore there is no need for him to have a brand new Ford Explorer with a $10,000 unmarked light package at the expense of tax payers.
We don't need this chief to respond to anything. In fact we don't need any SFD career chiefs. For the amount of personnel on duty at any one time maybe a 7-5 daytime chief, an EMS chief in a chase vehicle. Let the volumteer chiefs handle it among themselves in a rotation.. Then we can get rid of some of the career deadwood that has plagued this department for years. Hoppes and Ireton need to use our volunteer officers more as the volunteers are as qualified if not more than their career countetparts.
Now that was a funny statement Anon 2:18. Please list your qualified chiefs who can fill this role. Station 2 has no chief officers so that eliminates one third of your qualified candidates. I anxiously await your reply.
This is standard in any paid fire department in the U.S.A. You will be hard pressed to find a municipal paid fire department that does not have take home vehicles.
October 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM
So you think this justifies Salisbury tax payers paying for take home cars? I bet you don't pay taxes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now that was a funny statement Anon 2:18. Please list your qualified chiefs who can fill this role. Station 2 has no chief officers so that eliminates one third of your qualified candidates. I anxiously await your reply.
October 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Sitting through a couple of MFRI classes that everyone passes just for showing up doesn't really make you qualified. You clowns are eat up with a special kind of stupid.
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