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Friday, January 20, 2012

Response To Video Showing Man Attacking Baltimore Police Officer

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

And after all that one of the cops walk toward the guy doing the recording and you can tell he was hollering at the guy and the video ends.

Unbelievable.

When are they going start showing pictures of cops being abusive to citizens like they did to the guy who hit the cop?

So you arrest a guy for speaking his mind, and then the first guy hits the cop.

Sorry, I don't feel sorry for either of the cops. You should have just arrested the drunk and left the other guy alone and you would not have got punched.

Newsflash officer: We STILL have freedom of speech and it is LEGAL to video cops.

Contrary to what the big cheese cop was trying to do by narrating this video, you cops brought that on yourself.

Ironshire said...

There is no excuse, at any time, for assaulting a police officer. Anon 4:28, Next time you need help, call that Muslim, idiot.

Craig Theobald
Ironshire

Anonymous said...

Hey 1:28, you are a stupid you know what. You obviously didn't understand what happened. As far as the "camera man", that jerk was in the way of the whole situation. He/she was interfering. You could see the one officer become startled while trying to subdue the crazy fool. The guy was being arrested for hindering and other things. You are defending somebody that sucker punched a cop. Get a life low life.

Anonymous said...

4:28 You probably voted for Obama, because you are that stupid.

Anonymous said...

There are good and bad employees in every profession/workplace.

A handful of bad ones don't make them all bad. Yes, there are bad cops, but I believe that they are in the minority. The reality is that most officers are good people, and if you are straight/honest with them and treat them with the respect, you'll find that they are just people with a difficult job. They will treat you fairly, and with the same respect you offer to them.

They go to work every day and put their lives on the line to protect us. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt.

Anonymous said...

It's coming!

Anonymous said...

There is no excuse, at any time, for assaulting a police officer. Anon 4:28, Next time you need help, call that Muslim, idiot.

Craig Theobald
Ironshire

January 20, 2012 4:47 PM

If you believe that you are the idiot sir and need to know what your rights are. I won't even comment on your trashy racist remark.

Anonymous said...

Hey 1:28, you are a stupid you know what. You obviously didn't understand what happened. As far as the "camera man", that jerk was in the way of the whole situation. He/she was interfering.

Evidently you don't know what you're talking about, again.

It may be hard for you to comprehend but three were 3 people involved with this. The drunk, a man shouting at the cop and the video-grapher.

The video-grapher was not interfering in any way and he was well away from the action. If he wasn't there they wouldn't even be a story.

Like I said, if the cop continued with the drunk and not stop and go after someone who was running his mouth, he would not have gotten 'sucker punched'.

And one cop walked up while one shouter was on the ground with at least two cops on top of him and kicked him in the head.

My original statement still stands. The cops brought it on themselves.

Anonymous said...

4:28 You probably voted for Obama, because you are that stupid.

January 20, 2012 5:28 PM

That sounds like something a kid in kindergarten would say.

Anonymous said...

A handful of bad ones don't make them all bad. Yes, there are bad cops, but I believe that they are in the minority. They go to work every day and put their lives on the line to protect us. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt.

January 20, 2012 5:42 PM

I would hope that the bad cops are always in the minority since there are 800,000 cops in this country.

I shudder to think if there were 500,000 bad cops walking around with a badge and gun.

They have always been given the benefit of the doubt in the past. But, more and more that trust has been violated and they have proven they lie, assault, intimidate, and pretty much and damn thing they please.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me. There are still people out there who believe what the police tell them despite evidence to the contrary.

Some just take longer to see truth than others. I have cops in my own family so I know that all of them are not bad. And most of the good ones privately condemn the bad ones. But that isn't enough.

They need to be weeded out and gotten rid of, even better, not to be hired in the first place. Economical constraints have forced agencies to reduce training and lower the hiring standards and that's why more and more of the bad ones get in.

The alarm has already been sounded long ago by other people than me.

Whether anyone believes in the problem or not is up to them. All we can do is show it to them.

Anonymous said...

It's coming!

January 20, 2012 6:20 PM

It's already here.

Anonymous said...

So how did the officer deserve to get punched? He was subduing an individual and was punched out of no where. I agree with an above statement, next time you're in trouble, call that Muslim socialist you voted for. Maybe he will pay your mortgage, too.

Anonymous said...

7:34
Seems you are the idiot. There was no racist remark. There you go throwing in the race card. Last time I checked Muslim was not a race. Oopsie time to check your facts.

Anonymous said...

January 20, 2012 4:28 PM
January 20, 2012 5:42 PM
January 20, 2012 7:41 PM
January 20, 2012 7:42 PM

Hey Muslim, cop hating un-American JERK!! Why don't you leave our country. You are not wanted and neither is your muslim friend Obama!!!

Anonymous said...

7:34
Seems you are the idiot. There was no racist remark. There you go throwing in the race card. Last time I checked Muslim was not a race. Oopsie time to check your facts.

January 20, 2012 9:03 PM

I KNEW someone would say that. If that's the best you got, don't even waste the time.

Anonymous said...

So how did the officer deserve to get punched? He was subduing an individual and was punched out of no where. I agree with an above statement, next time you're in trouble, call that Muslim socialist you voted for. Maybe he will pay your mortgage, too.

January 20, 2012 8:26 PM

Never said he deserved it. I said he brought it on himself. He broke contact with the original person he jumped out of his car to address.

He chose to confront someone who was shouting without securing the first incident.

All this over a car ding and someone expressing their opinion. He never had control of the situation.

If anyone should have punched him, it should have been the one who was shouting.

Either way, the cop didn't handle the situation correctly. What if the guy shot him instead of punching him?

Anonymous said...

I agree with an above statement, next time you're in trouble, call that Muslim socialist you voted for. Maybe he will pay your mortgage, too.

January 20, 2012 8:26 PM

I've never voted for anyone much less the person you suggest.

I don't want anyone to have power over me. But I see you and the others love being told what to do and think. You can have all of that. I'll do my own.

Anonymous said...

January 20, 2012 4:28 PM
January 20, 2012 5:42 PM
January 20, 2012 7:41 PM
January 20, 2012 7:42 PM

Hey Muslim, cop hating un-American JERK!! Why don't you leave our country. You are not wanted and neither is your muslim friend Obama!!!

January 20, 2012 9:07 PM

You have anger issues and others I'm sure.

If you want to kiss cops' butts, go right ahead. Free speech and defending one's rights is very much American. It's a good thing you and others were born here because you would never pass a citizen test.

I'm not leaving this country. At least not yet. I love my freedoms and plan on keeping them, even if I have to argue with idiots like you guys.

If you guys want to live in a police state, why don't you leave? Go to some third world country and you won't have the rights you so easily throw away.

I would suggest Haiti. It's tropical and your ignorance would fit right in.

Anonymous said...

Seems you are the idiot. There was no racist remark. There you go throwing in the race card. Last time I checked Muslim was not a race. Oopsie time to check your facts.

January 20, 2012 9:03 PM

Maybe you should check YOUR facts if you can understand the following. I doubt it since you should already understand the implications but I thought I would throw it out there anyway.

Muslim refers to the Religion. Islam is the Religion and the people that follow it are Muslims. Most are Middle Eastern and Asian but there are many that are European and American. Someone can be Muslim but their race might be German and Irish for example.

No one believes Islam is a race. It is a religion.
However, in recent years following the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City, a debate on the description of Islam as a race has raged almost constantly. Most of it is centered around the description of Islamophobia, or the hatred or disgust against the religion of Islam, as a form of racism by anti-Islamophobic advocacy groups. This line of logic is merely strengthened by fact that, in Europe, the United States, and Australasia (all of which contain nominally majority-Christian, European-descended populations), the Muslim religious minorities in these countries usually hail, by way of ancestry, from other countries, most being in the Middle East, North Africa, the Indian subcontinent and the East Indies.

This position of those who assume that Muslims are a race or an ethnic group is not new in any way. The correlation of ethnicity with religion is also present in Judaism, where being Jewish is, very often, both an ethnic and a religious identification, although conversions from another religion to Judaism (even if one is not of "Jewish ancestry") are possible and many Jews do not practice the religion on an active basis (in fact, many are atheist or, to a lesser extent, members of another religion who simply have Jewish ancestry). This was reinforced by ill feelings, violence and segregatory actions against Jews - both practicing and non-practicing - by the non-Jewish majorities in countries like Russia, France and Germany; this resulted in voluntary segregation of Jewish populations in towns and cities so that the more religious Jewish residents could enjoy their institutions in a fragile peace while those who desired secular lifestyles would find employment outside the Jewish enclaves in clerical and business positions. This, of course, was shattered by the Holocaust and other mass pogroms against Jewish populations which led to their migrations to other countries, including Israel, the United States and Australasia.

Anonymous said...

This classification of Muslims as an ethnic group has also been present previous to the events of 9/11/01: "Muslim" was a term given to the Bosniak ethnic group, which was one of the main groups involved in the Bosnian war of the early-to-mid-1990's, by the media of the English-speaking world.

So Islam, while not a race or an ethnicity per se, does possess an ethnic element with the emphasis upon marriage within the Ummah, or worldwide Muslim community. It also possesses an ethnocultural aspect in the emphasis upon the usage of Arabic as the liturgical language in the most serious ceremonies. Finally, an ethnonational and ethnopolitical aspect is seen in the creation of political divisions and subdivisions to cater to the above conditions: the creation of Pakistan in 1947, for example, resulted out of the desire for a home for Indian Muslims who felt left out of the political process of an independent, predominately-Hindu India, even though Pakistan, while being predominately Muslim, is very ethnically diverse.

To describe "Muslim" as an ethnic term is mostly a result of the realities of religious segregation and all the subsidiary distinctions that result; thus, it may be appropriate to describe someone, based upon ancestry from a practicing Muslim ancestor, as a Muslim-American even though he or she may not be a practicing Muslim. However, just like how Judaism and Catholicism are religions, not ethnic groups, Islam is also not an ethnic group, but a religion that one can subscribe to and withdraw from.

Anonymous said...

lol and I like the way the cops edited this video. It's not even the full version. And they cut off the audio. Because of the obscenities I'm sure since there was a crowd of people around this incident that this version does not show.

If cops didn't act like third rate thugs maybe they wouldn't get treated as such.

And this is Balt. county after all. High crime. Hiring process for cops is non-stop. I have heard all one needs is a high school diploma or G.E.D. to be hired.

There is more to this story than has been let out.

Anonymous said...

I just love you people. You are such hypocrites and don't have a clue.

But it's good to yank your chains and get the ones who are able to, to think. Even if I think you are wrong.

But that's okay, I'm used to that. Takes awhile for people to come around. Right Joe?

Not talking about this instance but you have your share of people disagreeing with you.

Time honored, conventional wisdom is one of the hardest things to change. No matter how wrong it is.

So anyway, it's snowing right now and I bet most are out buying their milk, eggs and toilet paper.

Keep your powder dry.

Anonymous said...

They didn't start recording until middle way of the situation. The cops were being buttholes to the first guy being arrested. (Notice how his partner didn't want to help him affect the arrest?)

The guy that walked up and punched the cop was the arrestee's cousin. (He got away after the cop was punched but they caught him later)

I told you 'people' there was more to this story than was being put out. And since when does the police come out and explain something like this in the first place? They were trying to cover their butts and make it seem they did nothing wrong.

Most of you cannot think for yourselves and do no research. Bunch of sheep and proverbial frogs in pot of water.

When it happens to you maybe then you will finally open your eyes. You better hope it's not too late by then.

Anonymous said...

People have fought and died for us to freely express our opinions. Whether or not you agree with someone's opinion gives you or anyone else to tell them to ' love it or leave it'.

If people like you only want people around to agree with them, why don't you leave?

Most of the expressions on here have no idea what it means to be an American, what the Constitution means and stands for, or even what their individual rights are.

Apathy and ignorance is causing the demise of this once great country. Some, if not most of you are displaying the same mob mentality that the crowd in this video display.

You remind me of that ad years ago of a crowd in a baseball stadium that beat the crap out of a guy because he wouldn't stand for the national anthem.

You totally disgrace the lives of the military men and women who died fighting to give him that right not to stand.

The saddest part is, you don't even understand what I am talking about.

Anonymous said...

9:07,LOL @ your buffoonery.

Obama clearly won a free and fair democratic election. So

#1 apparently his is wanted

and

#2 you seem to have trouble respecting the results of a free election process, maybe you are the one who is "un-American".

Anonymous said...

ok....3 seperate situations

1 - the guy was drunk and opened his door into the police car......i wasn't there but it seemed like the arrest took way too long....get them cuffed and out of the area as soon as possible...but the officers were not wrong.

2 - the idiot came out of nowhere and assaulted the officer. What? Seriously? He needed a little stick time! Who could support that guys actions? I do wish the second officer had been a little more assertive when trying to get the bad guy off of the officer instead of waiting for the 3rd one to get there. Again..the officers were not wrong!

3) the camera guy getting yelled at. That officer has a lot to learn about the constitution. In fact the USDOJ has just asked that a federal judge rule in favor of a guy who had his camera taken by police for video taping who is now suing the agency - and rightfully so. What gave police the right to take the property of others without probable cause? In this situation thevideo recorder was in no way hindering the officers. In fact, it shows that guy walking back away from the officers and the officer continually telling him to stop recording. Some officers need to learn that they have no right to trample the constitution. Craig, I know you and you know me. There isn't a bigger supporter of law enforcement than me. But right is right and wrong is wrong. Police don't get to tell people to stop recording things that are in the public venue and they are in a place they have a right to be. Sometimes they forget that the authority they have is a huge responsibility and that authority must be exercised judiciously and always restrained by the constitution. Unfortunately the officer was wrong in this situation. The other officers were acting prudently and had no reason to worry about their activities being recorded. In fact, I think the recording supported their actions all the way through the incident up until the point where the guy was told to stop recording.

Anonymous said...

January 21, 2012 7:13 AM

Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

January 21, 2012 7:13 AM

Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you.

January 21, 2012 11:19 AM

Except for the cops were wrong in the sense that they did not secure the first suspect before proceeding with the second one ( who ran away with cop got punched). And his partner was not as involved with the first arrest as he should have been, nor the ensuing fight or crowd control.

In that sense, they brought it on themselves. But I'm sure they never expected anyone to walk up and start swinging.

And of course you are correct about the recording. But this was from a cop who just got up from the ground from being punched and tackled. He was probably a little embarrassed and didn't want to get punched again, but he still was wrong.

Now I hope I am done with this finally. It's been real and it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun. ;)