So you're telling me that we have to pay even more for these burdens on society?! First we provide them with NEW cheap housing that is often times nicer than our own homes. Then we have to pay for them to sit around on their asses because they are too lazy to get a job. Then we pay to put money on their independence card (the irony is in the name) so that they can go to Wal-Mart and load up on twinkies and soda (not to mention that the cheaper generic foods aren't approved for purchase-I hardly ever buy national brands for myself!), then when they start getting fat and unhealthy from all of our generous funding we have to pay for their health care! Now, we are literally paying for them to take a sh!t!!!
What this City needs are incentives for WORKFORCE housing, not affordable housing! If we start handing out money and offering such waivers to affordable housing what does that do? It invites low income individuals and families into our communities! And what do they bring? CRIME AND DELINQUENCY! What does that bring? The need for MORE services which cost us even MORE money! Essentially, in waiving the impact fees for these projects we are promoting and creating future costs.
If these incentives were redirected to workforce housing what does that do? It brings working class people, which brings more business, which brings economical development, which increases property values, which brings revenue, which brings a higher quality of living!
The City has got their priorities all mixed up! Gotta love those democrats! I guess that I'm going to have to jump on the train and lead the good life...I'm quiting my job today...
I don't understand why the fees were waived to begin with. That's where my focus is, not on this letter directing where the fees should be reimbursed from. These people are making money hand over fist and they're getting waivers? And don't tell me they're not making money! If they weren't, if this was not a profitable thing to do we wouldn't see so many being done! Get rid of waivers! Period!
If, as this suggests, Wilber did not advise the Council, when they waived the fees, that the funds would have to be advanced by the City taxpayers, not the developer, into the impact fee account, then Ireton has yet another reason to terminate him as the City's legal advisor.
If Ireton needs a second opinion before doing that he can speak with Stu Leer.
Joe, the developers and those in the pockets of the developers are who's running the City. Someone name me ONE municipality on the Shore that doesn't have these people sitting on their Councils or Commissions! Go ahead! I'm waiting.....
This, plus that money that the City has to refund to the County totals almost $1.5 Million of new debt not on the City's books. Maybe they need a new auditor ASAP.
RESOLUTION NO. 1292 - APPROVING A WAIVER OF WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY FEE FOR LODGES AT NAYLOR MILL PROJECT
Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Campbell seconded to approve Resolution No. 1292. Mr. Rick Della (Vice President of The Rainmaker Group) and Deputy Public Works Director Chip Messick addressed Resolution No. 1292 authorizing the waiver of the capacity fee of the City’s comprehensive connection charge for the Lodges at Naylor Mill development. Mrs. Campbell announced that she would recuse herself from voting on this item since the company she works for may have a business relationship with Interfaith Housing.
Mr. Messick explained that The Rainmaker Group is the developer and Interfaith Housing is the sponsor for the senior residential housing project. The first phase will contain 65 units and the second phase 40 units.
After discussion, Mr. Messick requested an amendment to the Resolution changing all references to The Rainmaker Group to Interfaith Housing. Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Cathcart seconded to amend Resolution No. 1292 as requested by Mr. Messick. The amendment passed on a 4-0 vote. Resolution No. 1292, as amended, passed on a 4-0 vote.
Resolution No. 1634 – repealing the tax deferral plan granted in Resolution No. 1435 as a local contribution and instead approving a payment-in-lieu-of-taxes (reduction of City real estate taxes of $100 per unit per year if the project continues to provide affordable housing for seniors of lower income for a period of 40 years from the date the building is granted a certificate of occupancy) as a local contribution for a rental housing development located at 875 Victoria Park Drive (Victoria Park at Sassafras Meadows) and approving project financing (form of a loan in an amount not to exceed $2,000,000) to be provided either directly by the Department of Housing and Community Development of the State of Maryland or through the Department’s Community Development Administration
Osprey Property Company & Shore Up are pleased to announce that applications are now being accepted at Victoria Park at Sassafras Meadows as construction is nearly complete. The 80 unit senior housing community located at 875 Victoria Park Drive, off Marquis Avenue in Salisbury, Wicomico County, MD will serve seniors aged 62 and over earning 30% to 60% of the area median income. Victoria Park will offer several styles and sizes of apartments including one and two bedroom units which will range from 661 sf to 1013 sf; rents are estimated to range from $315 to $750. All rents will include water, sewer and trash. Eight (8) units will be handicap accessible. The project is anticipated to open in April of 2009.
RESOLUTION NO. 1558 – GRANTING A CAPACITY FEE WAIVER FOR COTTAGES AT RIVER HOUSE PHASE III
Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Shields seconded to approve Resolution No. 1558. City Administrator John Pick, including Mr. John Triandafilou from Cottages at River House, explained that Resolution No. 1558 authorizes the waiver of the capacity fee ($78,764.40) for the Cottages at River House Phase III development. After a brief discussion, including Mrs. Campbell’s request for Administration to verify that the EDUs were correct, Resolution No. 1558 passed unanimously.
That memo conveniently leaves out that Paul Wilber advised the council that such waivers were permissible because "a capacity fee is not an impact fee."
Remember the put downs Debbie Campbell had to take over that?
27 comments:
Did Wilber tell them this when they waiver those fees???
Wilber strikes (out) again.
Where was Wilber when the lights went out?
Down in the cellar eating sauerkraut!
Mr. Wilber:
Better late than never!
Keep up the good work.
So you're telling me that we have to pay even more for these burdens on society?! First we provide them with NEW cheap housing that is often times nicer than our own homes. Then we have to pay for them to sit around on their asses because they are too lazy to get a job. Then we pay to put money on their independence card (the irony is in the name) so that they can go to Wal-Mart and load up on twinkies and soda (not to mention that the cheaper generic foods aren't approved for purchase-I hardly ever buy national brands for myself!), then when they start getting fat and unhealthy from all of our generous funding we have to pay for their health care! Now, we are literally paying for them to take a sh!t!!!
What this City needs are incentives for WORKFORCE housing, not affordable housing! If we start handing out money and offering such waivers to affordable housing what does that do? It invites low income individuals and families into our communities! And what do they bring? CRIME AND DELINQUENCY! What does that bring? The need for MORE services which cost us even MORE money! Essentially, in waiving the impact fees for these projects we are promoting and creating future costs.
If these incentives were redirected to workforce housing what does that do? It brings working class people, which brings more business, which brings economical development, which increases property values, which brings revenue, which brings a higher quality of living!
The City has got their priorities all mixed up! Gotta love those democrats! I guess that I'm going to have to jump on the train and lead the good life...I'm quiting my job today...
I don't understand why the fees were waived to begin with.
That's where my focus is, not on this letter directing where the fees should be reimbursed from.
These people are making money hand over fist and they're getting waivers?
And don't tell me they're not making money! If they weren't, if this was not a profitable thing to do we wouldn't see so many being done!
Get rid of waivers! Period!
If, as this suggests, Wilber did not advise the Council, when they waived the fees, that the funds would have to be advanced by the City taxpayers, not the developer, into the impact fee account, then Ireton has yet another reason to terminate him as the City's legal advisor.
If Ireton needs a second opinion before doing that he can speak with Stu Leer.
anonymous 12:31, you hit the nail on the head with that comment.
WHY did Wilber agree to such without permission from the Council first?
Sounds like yet another $100,000.00 Dump Truck purchase without apropriated funds.
Who's running this City and for the 1,000th time, who's accountable?
Are those fees being waived for that ridiculous "Bricks" project?
Wanna bet when this hits the Daily Times -- I'll guess in April.
Its a click, your in or your out.
Joe, the developers and those in the pockets of the developers are who's running the City.
Someone name me ONE municipality on the Shore that doesn't have these people sitting on their Councils or Commissions! Go ahead! I'm waiting.....
Anonymous 12:37 - It is a click , it has always been that way.
Joe:
I believe that all or most of those projects also got a special tax waiver ("PILOT") from the City and maybe the County, too.
Check it out please.
This, plus that money that the City has to refund to the County totals almost $1.5 Million of new debt not on the City's books. Maybe they need a new auditor ASAP.
Welcome to "Clown Town"
Tom Ruark wins again. Millionaire.
Sassafras Meadows? Now that's laughable
12:40 I know, been here my whole life.
Somebody put the names behind the developments,pl.
Just to let you all know the for one the "Victoria Park" project is for the elderly only. That to me is OK but Section 8 housing is not.
RESOLUTION NO. 1292 - APPROVING A WAIVER OF WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY FEE FOR LODGES AT NAYLOR MILL PROJECT
Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Campbell seconded to approve Resolution No. 1292. Mr. Rick Della (Vice President of The Rainmaker Group) and Deputy Public Works Director Chip Messick addressed Resolution No. 1292 authorizing the waiver of the capacity fee of the City’s comprehensive connection charge for the Lodges at Naylor Mill development. Mrs. Campbell announced that she would recuse herself from voting on this item since the company she works for may have a business relationship with Interfaith Housing.
Mr. Messick explained that The Rainmaker Group is the developer and Interfaith Housing is the sponsor for the senior residential housing project. The first phase will contain 65 units and the second phase 40 units.
After discussion, Mr. Messick requested an amendment to the Resolution changing all references to The Rainmaker Group to Interfaith Housing. Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Cathcart seconded to amend Resolution No. 1292 as requested by Mr. Messick. The amendment passed on a 4-0 vote. Resolution No. 1292, as amended, passed on a 4-0 vote.
Resolution No. 1634 – repealing the tax deferral plan granted in Resolution No. 1435 as
a local contribution and instead approving a payment-in-lieu-of-taxes (reduction of City
real estate taxes of $100 per unit per year if the project continues to provide affordable
housing for seniors of lower income for a period of 40 years from the date the building is
granted a certificate of occupancy) as a local contribution for a rental housing
development located at 875 Victoria Park Drive (Victoria Park at Sassafras Meadows)
and approving project financing (form of a loan in an amount not to exceed $2,000,000)
to be provided either directly by the Department of Housing and Community
Development of the State of Maryland or through the Department’s Community
Development Administration
Osprey Property Company & Shore Up are pleased to announce that applications are now being accepted at Victoria Park at Sassafras Meadows as construction is nearly complete. The 80 unit senior housing community located at 875 Victoria Park Drive, off Marquis Avenue in Salisbury, Wicomico County, MD will serve seniors aged 62 and over earning 30% to 60% of the area median income. Victoria Park will offer several styles and sizes of apartments including one and two bedroom units which will range from 661 sf to 1013 sf; rents are estimated to range from $315 to $750. All rents will include water, sewer and trash. Eight (8) units will be handicap accessible. The project is anticipated to open in April of 2009.
RESOLUTION NO. 1558 – GRANTING A CAPACITY FEE WAIVER FOR COTTAGES AT
RIVER HOUSE PHASE III
Mr. Comegys moved and Mrs. Shields seconded to approve Resolution No. 1558. City Administrator John Pick, including Mr. John Triandafilou from Cottages at River House, explained that Resolution No. 1558 authorizes the waiver of the capacity fee ($78,764.40) for the Cottages at River House Phase III development.
After a brief discussion, including Mrs. Campbell’s request for Administration to verify that the EDUs were correct, Resolution No. 1558 passed unanimously.
That memo conveniently leaves out that Paul Wilber advised the council that such waivers were permissible because "a capacity fee is not an impact fee."
Remember the put downs Debbie Campbell had to take over that?
I say take it out of Paul Wilber's wallet.
12:23, literally. Remember when the power went out at the council meeting a few years back?
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