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Wednesday, January 10, 2018

Is There Life After This Life?

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's called Death.

Anonymous said...

Yep,and it's seamless.

Anonymous said...

The correct answer to the question is "no one knows"... or "most likely no, based on the evidence we have".

Even if one can prove (which no one has) that a Deity exists - this does not provide evidence that there is an afterlife.

Even if one could prove that a SPECIFIC deity exists (no one has) that claims there is an afterlife... the time to believe such a proposition would be after the afterlife has been demonstrated. IE.. the default position would still be "most likely no, as no evidence for it has been demonstrated"

The structure of this argument in this video can be broken down like this: Do leprechauns exist? If there is a are pots of gold at the end of a rainbows, then leprechauns must exist.

Pots of Gold at the end of rainbows is evidence for pots of gold, at the end of rainbows. It is NOT evidence of leprechauns.

See how it sort of just breaks down?

The time to believe in an afterlife is when it has been demonstrated to exist.

LadyLiddy said...

We are energy. Energy is eternal. Our bodies will die, but our life force moves on.

Anonymous said...

@10:31 LadyLiddy

Can you please be more clear and specific, I'm having trouble making sense of that.

Humans are made of matter, we are not energy. We use energy to survive, and produce energy as we move or labor, but we are matter.. not energy.

I don't know what a "life force" is. How do you demonstrate or define that? If it moves "on", where does it move to? Can you demonstrate this place?

Anonymous said...

January 11, 2018 at 11:09 AM:

My goodness! I see physics was not your strong point. Ever hear of E=MC Squared?

"Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared." On the most basic level, the equation says that energy and mass (matter) are interchangeable; they are different forms of the same thing.

Anonymous said...

Atheists are not deep thinkers. They think there is no God. That all this just "happens." Throughout time eternal, all philosophers and deep thinkers with critical thinking skills have concluded that there can't be NO God, and that God actually exists. Is there an afterlife? Of course, just like there is life itself, and a before life (God and pre-existance). The spirit that dwells within us, the one that gives us life itself (God), is the same spirit that survives death. Even dead babies get an afterlife, just for having lived. The living share this world together, for better or worse, and the dead share the afterlife. We are all connected before we are born, while we are living, and after we are gone from this world. Death is not to be feared, for it is a part of life. Can't have one without the other. Without the body and it's sensory inputs, the afterlife consists of nothing but the self and soul of the deceased. Live right in this life, and the afterlife for our soul will be good for eternity. Live badly in this life, and you will find the afterlife to be undesirable. How we live now, determines how the afterlife will be. Atheists believes they have no soul, so they have nothing to take with them. When they are dead, they are dead, period. The self and soul is what survives the body after death. If you think you have a self and soul, then it will be your afterlife. It will not die with your body. Heaven and Hell are religious precepts, so I will leave that to a different discussion.

Anonymous said...

@11:09 AM

Seems that physics isn't your forte either, is it?

The formula does NOT SAY that matter and energy are the same thing, but shows their relationship with each other. Here is the simple version:

In the equation, the increased relativistic mass (m) of a body times the speed of light squared (c2) is equal to the kinetic energy (E) of that body. E = mc2Proof of Albert Einstein's special-relativity equation E = mc2.

Humans are made of matter. Which is not energy.

Anonymous said...

@3:54 PM

There's a lot to unpack in your post.. but I'll try to keep it short.

Atheists simply do not accept the claims of theists. That's it. They don't say there is no God, but rather that those asserting there is one have not met their burden of proof for one. It is not a positive claim that there is no God.

This is it. It makes no claim or assertion on how ANYTHING happens, and makes no claim or assertion on any other topic.

You are so wildly off base with your assertions, ad hominems, and strawmen it seems that you probably don't know any atheists, nor have you spent any time reading or learning about differing viewpoints.

To be sure, no one has ever provided evidence that a God exists, this is why almost all faith systems are just that. Faith systems, reliant on belief & faith. If there were evidence, these would not be needed.

Your assertions of an afterlife also have a burden of proof which you have not met. There is no reason to believe your assertions until you can provide evidence of your claims.

Lastly, being an Atheist says nothing on whether one accepts the idea of a soul. Being an atheist is a single reaction to a single proposition. That is it.

For me, I don't know what a soul would be. No one has defined and/or demonstrated what one would be, and it has never been demonstrated to exist, so the default position on this would be have to be the null hypothesis.

I hope that helps clear up what you missed.