If the airline wants to remove you, they need a court order for eviction.
It really is that simple.
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I wish it were that simple, read the fine print on the contract you paid for. There is nothing protecting you against them. Sadly that is why the government has intervened on your behalf on many occasions.
Remember the people that had to sit in the plane on the runway for 8 hours, because it was convenient for the airline? Our government had to intercede and create rules to stop that from happening.
It's a dirty industry as like all big corps on care about money.
Unfortunately it isnt that simple. Captain has authority over his plane. He can order the removal of anyone at anytime. Flying is not considered a legal right so the Contract of Carriage says you can be booted at any time. US dept. of transportation guarantees passengers who have been bumped against their will to receive compensation. Not saying this excessive force was justified, just that they're going to get away with it. Hopefully the American people can speak with our wallets
changes must be made...
Just great.Now at least a hundred wannabe attorneys will chime in on this.
Actually it is that simple... the fine print states they can bar you from BOARDING - once you are boarded on the plane, they have no legal right to remove you from your seat unless the pilot determines you are a threat to the safety of others.
Not for nothing, but over-selling is fraud.
I disagree. What one buys is a ticket for Air travel only. It is not ownership of any part of the airline, or the airplane, including any assigned seat for the air travel. If one seat is unavailable, or made unavailable, then the airline is obligated to replace the air travel purchase with another one of like kind. You don't "rent / lease" a seat, you purchase air transportation, from point A to point B. It is a purchase of a service, not an asset. There is no ownership of the aircraft that is transferred when air travel is purchased.
I think that doctor will be very very rich. The CEO has egg on his face and is in damage control. I watched the video from beginning to end. He was in the beginning very rational and explained why he did not want to give up his seat for very valid reasons as a doctor. The airline may have been within their right to kick him off, but the way they handled this, was way out of line. They also slandered his character as a part of their damage control.
Passengers were also very upset over this man's treatment. The whole situation was handled poorly. The slander alone should be worth a great deal in pain and suffering!!!! I've flown more than once with Southwest airlines, and had a similar situation. If you didn't want to give up your seat, they did not press the issue or force you off. I've had friends who flew with Singapore airlines and Virgin airlines, and they talk about the great customer service they received. Airports are also more modern and up to date. It's a real shame what this country has become.
And a wannabe tough guy will comment to insult the wannabe attorneys lol
He now needs to go and shoot down or at least shoot up a few of their planes, it will cost them big time!
You are on a homeland security flight when a cop tells you to get u get up when you resist and say you have to drag me off well your gonna get your crying liberal obama wish.
I'd take that beating for the money he will get in a settlement. United won't be dumb enough to take this case to a jury in Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I disagree. What one buys is a ticket for Air travel only. It is not ownership of any part of the airline, or the airplane, including any assigned seat for the air travel. If one seat is unavailable, or made unavailable, then the airline is obligated to replace the air travel purchase with another one of like kind. You don't "rent / lease" a seat, you purchase air transportation, from point A to point B. It is a purchase of a service, not an asset. There is no ownership of the aircraft that is transferred when air travel is purchased.
April 13, 2017 at 11:13 AM
Huh? So say I rent a home from you, I don't own any part of that home. Does that give you the right to come in and drag me out as you see fit because you do not want me there anymore? If I pay the rent and act within the parameters of the lease I get to rent the home. You purchase a ticket for a specific flight to a specific destination how does your example make any sense? You are saying because your purchased a ticket the airline can put you on any flight they chose? I do not agree with that.
Suck it up buttercup. A house is not a flight.
9:51 has it correct. As part of purchasing a ticket you agree to a Contract of Carriage. Few ever read it but all have agreed to it and you will be driving or walking if you choose not to agree.
Once physically boarded the passenger's 'rights' increase. United mishandled this aspect horribly and it will cost them dearly.
The flight in question wasn't 'overbooked'. The airline came to realize it needed to have four crew members fly as passengers to Louisville in order to be able to operate other flights. They sought volunteers and then began to pick passengers to be deboarded. They probably violated the contract rights of the other 3 passengers deboarded, too.
As others have noted, making a more generous offer when seeking volunteers would likely have prevented the assault.
The injured doctor and his lawyers must now decide how many zeros they settle for!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are on a homeland security flight when a cop tells you to get u get up when you resist and say you have to drag me off well your gonna get your crying liberal obama wish.
April 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM
Just what exactly is a 'homeland security flight'? It wasn't a cop in the traditional sense, it was a security officer the airport or whoever provides. United has recently stated they will no longer use those officers and after they stated that, they more recently stated they will no longer force people to deplane.
People like you always seem to condone actions like these until it happens to YOU. It's quite easy to wish doom and despair on others, especially sitting at a computer. And that's all I will say to your kind.
Actually you can't rented or leased the seat, you entered into a contract with the airline. The airline also has the right to refuse service to you should you not adhere to their rules and regulations. If the flight crew asks you to deplane, you're supposed to do that in the most peaceful manner possible. The passenger was truculent and creating a disturbance with his refusal to leave. In reality, he broke his side of the contract, not the airline. What the video and MSM doesn't relay is two passengers had the same fate prior and they got up, left the plane peacefully without incident. They also got $1000.00 and a free hotel room. Dr. Dao decided he would be an asshole and learned soon after, that wasn't the way to win friends and influence people. He ended up being ejected in the manner for which he decided to be removed. Had he gotten up and went about his day, he wouldn't have sustained any injury.
April 16, 2017 at 7:52 AM
lol you are so full of crap. and using unusual words to try to trick people into thinking you are more intelligent than you really are tsk tsk.
are you one of those poor folks that watch the View also? They don't call it programming for nothing.
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