By Thornton Crowe
Guess Betsy DeVoss's highly criticized voucher program isn't looking all that bad now, is it?
Last week, thugdom occurred at the local high school and a couple articles here have emanated the waste of taxpayer money to build spiffy new digs for the thugs to destroy. Unfortunately, as un-PC as it is, this is spot and should be a careful consideration for parents and taxpayers alike.
On the contrary, in the Eighties, Bennett didn't have these disturbances like what we saw last week and there wasn't a full-time 'officer' on duty or metal detectors. The exterior doors were never locked and people weren't allowed to roam the halls and grounds during class time like wandering minstrels without purpose. Can't see former administrators Lloyd Wescoe, Daniel Savoy or Bill Hensley ever tolerating the nonsense the current school administration seems all too eager to condone.
Therefore, I respectfully disagree the Board of Education is 'blameless' in this incident because they've allowed students to do pretty much whatever they want and then feign some upset when these prison-style lockdown occur. Frankly, the administration lacks moral integrity to push back against the last 8-year federal malaise which opts for endangering their students and community for the sake of some Social Justice Warrior idiocy.
Back in those days, people who were caught skipping were suspended or expelled, they weren't coddled and asked what the school could do to make them want to attend class. You either went to class and attempted to make good grades or you were a loser. Simple as pie.
Why pitch good money after bad causes?
Today, we have a generation of wanderers out to get into trouble because no one holds them accountable for anything they do wrong. This is most certainly an issue within the scope of the WCBOE but they flagrantly ignore their responsibility both to the students and the community.
While there is a degree of culpability (blame for all the slow trackers) on Jake Day and his happy band of thieves, there is only so much a useless local politician can do to cure ills these ills. In the end, it is really everyone's fault including the thug parents who allow their kids to vandalize, rape, murder, deal and prostitute that has a great hand in this tragic reality we all now must face.
As Rush Limbaugh put it a few weeks back, what we have is an entire generation of daycare babies who have never advanced past the daycare mentality. What can we expect? We kind of brought this on ourselves by allowing these behaviors to continue without fear of recourse. If you really want a bonafide example of your tomorrows here in Salisbury, go to Denny's on their Tuesday Kids Eat Free night and you'll see what's in store!
Rather ironic when you think about it... the generation whose raised to be victims seems all too intent on making victims out of everyone else.
75 comments:
in all fairness with the DOJ agreement hanging over the heads of the county and school board it's tome for trump and sessions to remove this threat of a lawsuit and just start expelling for good those thugs who come to school to act up, and do not care to earn an education. Let the good kids learn and put the thugs where they need to be put. ECI!
You can only use the whole federal excuse for so long. When you have schools that are entrenched in war zone mentality, cut the line and do what's necessary to keep the community and other students safe. If the feds want to make a big thing out of it, so be it. It's not like it's 'law' to keep kids in school, it was an initiative. No one is going to jail for expelling bad seeds. Man (or Woman) Up and take the heat.
IMO -If President Trump/Betsy DeVoss allow Education to be run by each state - which I believe a good idea in the majority of the states - but our Yahoo's in Annapolis are so Liberal, Maryland will see no change in the education system.
I believe public schools would benefit if the system was run like Private Christian Schools.
Good post Thornton, as usual.
Real simple, bring Carl Dumire back to Bennett Sr.as principle.
When a kid looks at you and says f*** you and nothing is done because he's had a bad day?? So glad I'm on the tail-end of my teaching career.
In the sixties you were subject to have a teacher knock the hell out of you on the spot. So, don't come on here and tell me that should never happen because everyone was on board with it. The parents encouraged this act of punishment. We didn't hear any complaints and the student/teacher made out fine afterwards because the student acknowledged the bad behavior and respected the teacher. Now if that were to occur, the classmates would overcome the teacher. I don't think a student should be in school unless they are there for the education.
821 why don't you give that wayward student extra homework as a punishment? Why do you just expect the office to do all the discipline instead of being the king/queen of your classroom? It's this type of deferment that opens up for non-action. You could assign that student extra work to be done, plus demand a written apology from him and his parents.
get rid of liberal attitudes, stop feeling guilty for slavery, and racism. ALL people live by the rules of the land no matter Race, Sex, Beliefs
Thats being fair - and not racism, you pieces of shit babies.
Parents need to be responsible for their childrens' behavior and there should be consequences.
There are a lot of black families that don't want their kids going to school with disruptive violent students either, I think we can all agree these students need to be moved to another school that can deal with their violence or a military option. Our schools need to stop being a social experiment and get back to learning so that our kids will be successful and move out on their own.
Unlike society's derelicts, there are plenty of parent who don't want their kids around violent criminal. 914 is absolutely right and it's up to the WCBOE to make sure the education environment is safe for all not just the lawbreakers and bullies. When you have trouble students, move them to their own 'special' class. You have them for slow learners, have them for troublemakers. It's really just that simple.
So wait... You're name suggests it's the teachers fault these kids act like this. And better still, you believe extra homework is a punishment? That is the most naive, ludicrous suggestion ever. They already don't do homework, and there isn't a parent to make them do it. Should we make them stay at the dinner table too until they've eaten all their broccoli? SMH. Go spend one day in a classroom and find some truth. Teacher's hands are tied. Yes, those with good classroom management learn it's best to handle issues on their own because they will basically go unsupported by the administration. But in the end, by high school, these thugs are already down a path of crime. I'm pretty sure extra homework isn't going to out them down the straight and narrow.
In addition, a written note of apology from a parent? Half of them are also illiterate and simply believe school is a place to go to feed their child and sling drugs. Get a clue. Based on your comment, I'm going to guess you are somewhere in your sixties or seventies? Times have changed from your day. Parents cared back then. However, poverty and ignorance are are never ending cycle. The liberals have made it so. Why put an emphasis on education and self betterment when the government will provide?
Excuses, excuses, excuses no responsibility whatsoever. Right, 930? Go to a classroom and get some education? Holy mother of God, give me a break! You people are so brainwashed its pathetic. Yes, assign more homework. If they don't do it give them an F. You have the power of pen use it! If they don't do the work they don't get the grade. The best teachers most have ever had are the ones who rode their asses like Zorro and established -enforced standards. They didn't sit around boo-hooing what they could and couldn't do for social justice sake, they just taught and the kids that got it, thrived. If you don't demand respect from youngsters, you're never going to get it.
All I can say is thank God for Private Schools because without them, there'd be no more doctors, lawyers, scientists, investors, accountants, etc. etc. etc. The public school system is nothing more than daycare extended with no purpose, no sense of accomplishment for students and the teachers. It's just a grind you do until you stop. Over and over again, promoting ignorance and sloth with absolutely no accountability for your own hands in the problem. Just idiotic.
Question: If parents vote for the government that holds their children down in the ghetto, then how can they expect to take the ghetto out of their kids? Blaming the government for local teachers' apathy is hardly a sensical argument.
9:30 Ignore 8:27 he apparently hasn't stepped foot in a classroom in decades. My youngest child is now a senior and I am jumping for joy that I will be done with the public school system. I have had children in public schools for the last 25 years and I have witnessed the decline in our school system. I am a parent and I know the problem is NOT with most of the teachers but with minority students and their so called parents. Administrations hands may be tied somewhat but they still don't do enough to protect the good students. As for 8:27 you live in la la land if you think for a minute giving extra homework is going to help. Lmao dude you really don't have a clue!
I think the problem in the schools originated first in removing God from schools. We have a whole generation who knows nothing of God. The second problem was when punishment was eliminated from schools and homes. Now you can't touch your own kid without someone screaming child abuse.
I went to school in Salisbury in the seventies. I went to Bennett for grades 7-9 and then Parkside opened and I was switched to go there for grades 10-12. We didn't have these types of problems then. I'm not going to say there were no fights because that would be a lie but it was nothing like this.
For starters if we got in trouble in school we were subject to be sent to the principle where, yes, you could be paddled, you could be suspended, you could be expelled. Then when you got home, you could get an ass whipping. And no, I am not talking child abuse. I am talking CORRECTION. If bad behavior is not corrected, it will continue. My mother had a little thin belt she used to keep on top of the fridge. I may have been beat with it twice. I then learned that if a behavior caused the threat of the belt, the behavior better change. I was not a fool. I didn't like pain. I changed the behavior. One time we tried hiding the belt. I had two brothers also, and when Mom came home we all pleaded innocence. She said, "no problem, when your Dad comes home I'll just get his belt and put up there." Well we knew his belt was bigger and wider. Amazingly Mom's little belt ended up reappearing on top of the fridge.
My brother used to get in trouble all the time in school and the principle called my mother several times to come in to the school. After about the 3rd or 4th time she told him, "look, I am a bookkeeper, you are a principle. Use that paddle on him and send him back to class. Or suspend him and I'll straighten him out at home, but quit calling me over here every day. He must not have liked pain either because they didn't call her anymore and he didn't end up suspended all the time. This type of pain is correction, not child abuse. If there is no consequence for bad behavior, it will not change. Correction is a sign of love, that you love the person enough to correct their behavior, to make them a better person. God taught us that.
950 question: if public school was so bad, why didn't you do like I did and work a couple jobs so you could afford private school for your kids? I removed my kid from the situation because I kept being told it was 'other people's fault.' Glad you glad that your kid is leaving the public school system, but you could've taken him/her out at any time.
Can't speak for other schools but Wicomico Day School has tuition help for parents sending their kids to their school. It's through grants so it's not a loan and its based on need. Would think other schools would have these types of programs, too. If you really don't want your kids in public school, there's always a way to get them out of it, you just have to use your noodle and positive thinking instead of blind acceptance of status quo. BTW, before you dump all over my comment, I also worked multiple jobs to my kids through private school.
Bottom line...I'm sick of seeing MY money, My hard earned money being thrown at a failing government/public school system. This has gone on for Far Too long and ALL citizens should be livid...Those of you who continue to use this Failing System should be ashamed...MOST of you have Never spoken out and won't speak out. Shame on you. Your children only get One opportunity for a good education and YOU have sacrificed them to the alter of indoctrination, common core, mediocrity and so much more. What do you have to say for yourselves? You could have sacrificed Yourself so your children could have gone to a private school (Not all are expensive)...You could have investigated for yourself or you could have home schooled but YOU chose your material life instead.
IF you couldn't do either, then you should have LET YOUR VOICE be Heard. Met with other parents and formed a large coalition to Make YOUR voices be Heard until Major changes were made, changes that would Improve this rotting system.
Again; this has gone on for Far TOO Long and You have allowed it. Government/Public indoctrination is the Armpit of education. No LONGER education/but indoctrination.
Am old enough to remember when there were no Police in our schools. The male teachers took care of the thugs.
In the mid to late 70's at Bennett we didn't see color we all got along and hung out with each other. As for Mr. Wescoe he was a horrible alcoholic, kept his stash in his desk bottom left drawer, Mr. Savoy good man tried to intimidate didn't work and Mr. Oakley good man and fair. Teachers like Smoot, Mrs. Rayne and others had liberal agendas. There was not much violent behavior unless warranted and that was handled after school off premise.
8:27 Are you crazy you say give them extra work to do. They don't even do the minimum work required. How are you going to get them to anything extra. And an apology from a kid that has no respect for anyone Good luck with that. And the parents would laugh at you if you expected an apology from them because they don't give a sh-t about the kid or the school or anything else. The kids do whatever they want and the parents let them. That is if you can even find the parents. Get real you must be blind to what is really going on.
What was wrong with 930's comment? Pretty sure he/she wasn't promoting ignorance.
So you are saying only private institutions produce educated people and professionals? You are an idiot. Like 5% of the country are private school students. The vast majority of successful people are products of public education. There are good public schools. There are great students at public schools, who go on the college and become successful. They just have to deal with the degenerates of the hood and ghetto.
After having a kid graduate from Bennett about 5 years ago, and with another one currently attending, we're talking about less than 5% of the students are the thugs and leeches at the school. No doubt that this small percentage of thugs need to go, but it's not a reasonable assessment to condemn the entire population.
10:08 You are absolutely correct. I have tried and tried to get parents to stand up to this. And no one ever wants to. They just want to complain.
9:54 You are assuming I was in a position to work extra jobs but you really know nothing of my situation. 1 parent fighting a life threatening illness does not give the other parent a lot of time to take care of everything else and work 2 or more jobs. And as I said before the public system began to decline in the last 5 or so years. It wasn't always bad.
8:27 Homework, those kids never do any homework,you really don't see what's going on at all.They don't do anything except put in time and cause trouble.
It's not a day care generation it's a parental deficit generation. People used to care about their reputation now they don't care the worse you are the more you are celebrated.
Bennett needs to get rid of it's athletic director and it's baseball coaches.
As a student at Parkside, the administration is terrible. Students wonder the halls, go to Royal Farms, go to the apartments across the street and do sexual acts... Mrs. Pinhey is no where to be found, the only time you would see her is feeding her face. Did you know they hired someone at Parkside to Patrol the halls in which he does nothing???? Such a waste of Tax money. As a student, I would say that Parkside isn't as a white as It used to be... There is Racial Tensions between Rednecks and Black students and the administration does nothing. The V.Principals are even worse, BRIGGS, DJ, GIBSON do nothing. There was a time were this random stranger just was walking throughout the building and the deputy had to remove her!! So unsafe. There was a situation where a couple weeks ago where 2 Teachers found a student with a knife and the administration didn't get there until 10 mins later! Those teachers had to waste there class time to hope a unruly student which should be the administration job. I visited wihi once and you see no one in the halls, They were all in the classroom. I Do know the administration is tough there and that may be why you never really see them come up on the news. Mainly Bennett and Parkside. What amazes me the most is that people have a negative view of Wihi which I don't understand. I would say it be by far the safest along with mardela. My Mom who is black went to Delmar High and said they never had any problems like they are having at Bennett and Parkside not did they need a deputy, 4 Vice Principal's at there school. More like just having a Principal, Vice Principal , Dean of students. She never really wanted me to go to salisbury schools because they suck badly. But anyway I'm hoping that WCBOE does clean house at Parkside with its administration because it getting ridiculous, I know some of you would be shocked that a 17 yr old is asking for a tough principal but we need it badly. Like Mrs. Pinhey, aka Mrs. Piggy, needs to be sent to a elementary school not do I think she can control that more like a desk job. Hopefully they do this going into my senior year next year. I think by far Bennett and Parkside are the most unsafe schools in the County and the worst administration bodies in the County... WCBOE NEEDS TO CONSIDER THIS!!!! BRING SOMEONE WITH THE STAMINA TO DO THIS JOB!!!
1107 demonstrates they have no valid argument because they immediate cut to idiot insult. Who's the real idiot? Statistically speaking, kids that go to private school are more out to continue to college and successfully complete college. Public School people have a higher rate of drop out in the collegiate level because they can't handle the workload. That's just a fact. If you don't like, I really couldn't care less. Keep putting that head in the proverbial sand and enjoy your coma.
I bet the Administration up there pictured above if they are still living are like what the hell is going on at JMB
The school is definitely not the way they left it!
So WHERE are all you people when there are PTA meetings? Walk-in meetings with teachers? You have every excuse in the book as to why you're not there (work, sport, child care, dinner, ingrown toenail, etc.). I bet if there was free pizza, hell, ANYTHING free, you'd be there!
Meetings are quarterly and set at the beginning of the school year. If the meeting times don't work, tell the PTA. Send a letter or email in to the school's PTA board with your concerns. Attendance and participation is embarassingly non-existent these days!
WHAT WILL GET YOU INTO THE SCHOOLS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES?
I saw Wescoe and The late Lee Hammond paddle a guy in there office. I was next. So Lee took the first swat and about fell down and the guy laughed then Wescoe took command of that big ole wooden paddle with holes in it and wore his ass out.They were so irritated after they beat his ass I only got a couple small wacks.Lee Hammond was one of the greatest teachers that this county ever will have kinda lost track of Wescoe. Students had great respect for teachers in the 70,s sure there were lots of small problems but there was some home training before you came into the school years.The only thing the mongrel generation knows is spit them out them toss them around until the freebies are gone then its nots my problem.
Well said. And you are exactly right!
The US public "schools" for the most part should be renamed pre-detention centers or pre-prisons as that is all a lot are anymore. The Baltimore City school system has it's own police dept. This because the BPD was being called so much to that city's schools.
The blame lies first with the "parents" and then with the democrats who won't tell it like it is-that the parents are useless thugs themselves.
What you are seeing is lack of leadership of any kind.The kids cuss teacher with no consequences . I worked in a rehab and had patients cuss employees and the so called jacka%%es that ran the place would try and get the employee in trouble that got cussed by patient,it the same in school .The teachers hands are tied ,it comes from poor leadership and liberaLS. You see the same thing happening in prisons the inmate assaults the C.O. and the so called leaders have the C.O. that got hit to fill out a form explaining why the inmate hit him instead of holding the inmate accountable. I think history will show that there is a lack of leadership in buisnesses ,schools and Government since the 80's.Look at trump he is a leader and those fools and pedo's in govt.are blocking him and trying to go against him.
2:14, Also, we have the only government in the world that has it's own 'breeding program'(Sec.8)for delinquents and criminals. Thank you Dumocrats.
11:43, well spoken, proof there is hope, it's possible that many private school graduates attend college because obviously they have the financial ability to do so, not so in the public schools, also in the 70"s and 80"s many children had a stay at home mother who had a vested interest in her children's success. Back than there was not nearly the amount of day care facilities. It's the combination of 2 parent workforce, and lack of discipline in both the home and schools. Public schools without discipline are only good if the student has a strong parental upbringing, which is sadly rare these days.
314 both my parents works but my brother and I went to school and didn't have the discipline problems. There was only a few in high school known for being rebel seeds. Most of my friends parents also worked, too. We just knew that our parents continued to be engaged even though they worked. Both my parents participated in all of our functions like boy scouts, dance planning committees and abound. My parents never missed a PTA meeting either. They were involved. The Mean Streets weren't our family. We knew where we were from.
Also under obama things in public schools only got worse. He had his "education" dept come up with "guidelines" to reduce suspensions and expulsions because supposedly (more democrat lies)blacks students seemed to get punished more. What the guidelines suggested was alternatives to suspending and expelling but still keep the offender in school. If schools showed a reduction then they would be eligible for fed grants. So now a student pretty much has to commit murder on the school grounds if they are to be suspended and the democrats are saying (lying really) see how we reduced the number of suspensions in schools. They did this by making it nearly impossible to suspend but demccrat voters are the most ignorant (and dishonest) trash walking the face of the earth so they will never admit this.
It's the parents or lack there of. Two working parents doesn't mean they aren't engaged with their kids' school. It is the welfare queens and kings that think everyone owes them something who instill NO values in their children, do not discipline them or care. They believe others are at fault for all of their problems. Until these so=called parents are held accountable, nothing will change.
70's the Last of the Good Old days !!
Forced busing has Ruined the schools for the Whites
Now they have to pay 6 grand a year to go to a good school
(Private school)
Noone wants their kids in these Ruined schools with all the Gangs / drugs / weapons/ Racist ones against them there
They have turned the schools into Prisons , complete with
Guards (Babysitting Police) ...May as well put a Fence up !!
I say again Where the hell is this new superintendent that was supposed to make all these changes? I haven't heard a word out of her since her GREAT LEADER SPEECH at the shorebirds kick off. What a joke!!!
Many good teachers have left over the past dozen years or so because of nothing being done to those who disrupt their teaching during class. Carl Dumire would have knocked a few heads together and dared anyone to challenge him. Times have changed but there must be discipline in our schools and troublemakers expelled and should be forced to go to a military-style school if they don't learn discipline at home.
Because theyll never do the extra work and that undermines u furfher.
The admin wont let you flunk them. They will b so ially promoted no matef what the gradez are.
Waist of Money building these New schools to be ruined by
Thugs that go there !!!
You won't even recognize it in ten years !!!
Maybe Division of Correction facility should have been built
Need More Daycare Police !!! Free Donuts !!!
9:51
"I think the problem in the schools originated first in removing God from schools. We have a whole generation who knows nothing of God."
I agree with you 100% and would like to add.
Everyone seems to forget the late sixties. Let me remind those that aren't aware. In Wicomico County everything seemed to be going smoothly. But, when things are fine people want a change. As I remember it, a term called "integration" was placed into effect. Resist if you will, but that's not worked out. That's all folks.
My mom and dad would have whupped my azz if I behave like this in school back in the day. It's not the teachers job or the administrations job to discipline these bad azz kids. It's the parents job. POINT BLANK PERIOD.
At Wicomico Middle in 83/84 a male could not go to school with your shirt tail out.
Eastern shore is not the only place having these problems. Its all across the country with zero end in sight!
Those of us with land or planning to move in retirement year with land - best hunker down from a fam standpoint cuz the problems that exist today, will be our potential leaders tomorrow.
Someone mentioned religion above - well it will be needed in the future if the snowflakes/THUGS are large and in charge!
It's already 7 1/2 really hasn't changed much
"While there is a degree of culpability (blame for all the slow trackers) on Jake Day and his happy band of thieves..."
Please explain how Day has anything to do with the school situation.
Original joke. Good one never heard it before!!
The issue is you have the welfare mentality who do not control there thug teens and a president obama in the last 8 yrs telling them its OK because there little thugs and nobody loves them.
Say what you'd like but..........if you want kids to get an education, you need to segregate the schools. This stuff didn't happen until integration took place. Sorry, but our life styles and values are very different. And per my perception...get the special needs kids that we are babysitting with the tube feeds and seizures etc into a special "school". We should not have to pay for babysitting service for these children! Oh and now Choices is moving to Wi Middle so we are housing the young criminals there now. Do you really think these kids are interested in an education? And you wonder why people put their kids in private school? BECAUSE those families want their kids to actually be in a safe environment so they can learn!!!
by the time they get to high school, it's too late.
Briggs is a Puss!
It's long overdue that we had a voucher system so that kids with real potential are not stuck in semi-feral public schools.I'm sick of paying for a school system that is so inferior I can't send my kid there.If the schools were any good,the public school teachers would not all send their own kids elsewhere.Think on it.
Hey Joe, I heard this morning that the Police Chief for the Cambridge Police Department resigned. Do you have any insight or news concerning this?
Disagree 6:57am - I think if Briggs did have to deal with the BOE and State of MD he would have this mess under control.
Anonymous said...
The issue is you have the welfare mentality who do not control there thug teens and a president obama in the last 8 yrs telling them its OK because there little thugs and nobody loves them.
April 9, 2017 at 8:57 PM
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Anonymous said...
Say what you'd like but..........if you want kids to get an education, you need to segregate the schools. This stuff didn't happen until integration took place. Sorry, but our life styles and values are very different. And per my perception...get the special needs kids that we are babysitting with the tube feeds and seizures etc into a special "school". We should not have to pay for babysitting service for these children! Oh and now Choices is moving to Wi Middle so we are housing the young criminals there now. Do you really think these kids are interested in an education? And you wonder why people put their kids in private school? BECAUSE those families want their kids to actually be in a safe environment so they can learn!!!
April 9, 2017 at 9:22 PM
Such a true statement. Put the Peg Tube and "Special Needs or IEP" students in the Holly Center where they belong. No offense to people with family members, but the care is much better at the Holly Center.
As far as the Choices thug going to Wi Middle. I have a better idea. They need to go to 2424 Northgate Drive Suite 100, Salisbury, MD 21801 | Phone: 410-677-4400. There is plenty of room in that building.
Anonymous said...
Original joke. Good one never heard it before!!
April 9, 2017 at 8:50 PM
What is?
The smart kids are going to be fine, but the rest of them, we'll see them pumping our gas in a few years.
Kids are on their phones nonstop. They don't even say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore.
Teachers and administrators want to be buddies with the kids instead of disciplinarians.
You forgot Bill Oakley at JMB. Probably the best of the bunch.
The schools and teachers are not the problem here people. The quality of the inhabitants and lack of morality is the issue.
Pumping gas? Gas stations are self serving now.
Back in the late 80's my son got beat up on the way home from school (East Salisbury) by his walking companions because he was running his mouth. These were supposed to be friends. Kicked him, punched him. The next day Mr. Goslee I believe it was, had all of the boys involved (multiple races) in his office, no matter that it happened off school grounds. He put the fear into all of them including my son, and he did not even have to raise his hand (or paddle). They respected the authority that came with his position as principal. Kids today have no respect for themselves, each other or authority.
We made the NY Daily News again.
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