If Obama wants to run this country as a socialist state he should come out and call it just that. I'm ready to take a responsibility vacation! Imagine not having to worry about a mortgage, health care, retirement, childrens education, transportation or anything for that matter. Like my ex says "just get more money", like it grows on trees. REMEMBER TO VOTE
sounds good...although affirmative action should be based on socio-economic status, not race...There's alot of poor white folks in Pittsville and the rest of the Lower Eastern Shore that could use some assistance
Good for him. A country can only be as strong as its citizenry. There is absolutly nothing wrong with education for all and health care for all. Denying these basic justices amounts to modern day slavery.
Quote from the referenced article "he's not calling for direct cash payments to descendents of slaves, but rather indirect aid in the form of government programs that will "close the gap" between what he sees as white America and black America."
What the hell does he think we have been doing with all these entitlement programs for the last 100 years.
Everyones tired of hearing that crap about slaves . It's been an excuse for over 60 years now. Start working for a living , I'm damn tired of supporting these idiots!!
Its got nothing to do with a "black man" in the white house. Its got to do with his "plan for change" being scary as hell. Im not saying what weve got going on right now is working but ill be damned if IM going to pay in any way for what my ancestors over 300 years ago did to my neighbors anccestors over 300 years ago. SCREW THAT!!!
You know what, if its going to be like that then i want to get some of it too. Im catholic, polish, & irish. So for each time my ancestors were punished for their belief or race then i want something given to me. I want free health care, i want to not have to pay my mortgage, i dont want to have to pay for groceries, i dont want to pay for heat or electric either. I better get cash to buy my kids school clothes and i want to have extra to put a down payment on that new 10 mile to a gallon SUV with the nice rims ive been staring at. Oh yeah and i want all this while sitting on my lazy ass at home all day...
4:15 PM has nothing to do with his color. Obama wants to TAX the big companies, love them or hate them but they make our economy work. He wants to tax these companies into the ground to pay for his “BIG CHANGE” which are nothing more then huge socialist programs. What people do not realize is that these big companies can move over seas with there money…it’s a world economy and we aren’t the only game in town anymore. So what happens then? We are stuck holding a the bag with no money in it.
Another thing...The only people that are saying anything about race are black people. Why is that?...Keep using your color as a crutch Black America, that is a sure way to prosperity...because it has worked so well for you those far
The reason there is a vast difference of what blacks & whites have is that blacks are jealous over what whites have so they resort to stealing, killing, etc... They can go to college & work hard like I did to get what I have. They have the same opportunity as I do & more. I think the underlying problem is that blacks are jealous because whites were the ones that invented basketball & they didn't.
5:03 PM if you are referring to my post you are so wrong because I am BLACK! I guess in your eyes that makes me a Uncle Tom or “Sellout.” I just think it is time for people to take responsibility for there own lives…when that happens things will get better all around and you, 5:03pm will feel better about yourself.
Hey troops, get off your a** and get out and improve yourself. I dropped out of high School and joined the Marine Corps. When I retired from the Corps, I had passed the GED and got about two years of college in going at night, I went back to school and finished a BBA and went on to complete an MLS. And let me tell you it wasn't easy at all, we were living on my small Corps retirement and the salary my wife made working at a college. You can get what you want, but you've got to work for it. No one will give you what you want and that includes Obama!
while others argue about black and white, what about the indians that not only were taken for slaves but also had all their land taken away to boot. whiteman was nice enough to give them blankets for their exodus, blankets full of measals and small pox
not trying to sound racist however it is a fact that many may say they are voting, but following threw and doing it is another story
Why does this "ONE," this Berlin speech giving, radical black church going, friend to to American terrorist, white hating piece of crap not running as bi-racial instead of black? Could his white hating wife have something to do with that, or has he always hated white? His father and step-father were Muslims. His early, formative years were spent in Islamic training. I believe he's a Christian as much as believe Bill Clinton "didn't inhale." He always knew he had to be "Christian" to get where he wanted to be in American politics! Is he a Muslim enemy in Christian sheeps clothing? I don't know, but I'm not willing to take even the slightest chance by voting for such a character.
He's not big and he's half white, but he is scary as hell! He hates his white side and embraces only is his blackness. I'm only one vote, but I'd wager Rev. Wright's little buddy gets drubbed in November. I hope this electoral outcome doesn't set his other buddy, the terrorist, on another murdurous rampage. The nastier FACTS about this "candidate" haven't even been told yet, but they will:)
Oh MY GODDD! I'm going to research this further before I comment too much, but all of you missed the part where he supposedly said that he would "Declare certain neighborhoods in the 'Inner Cities' WARDS OF THE STATE! WTF? That means no parental rights, that means goverment in intrustion in all that you do, in and out of your home and how you raise your families! This is the most heinous thing I have ever read. This is not America!
none in our family's history, both sides, ever had any slaves. we've always had to do for ourselves and it wasn't easy for our grandparents and their parents. we've always had to SLAVE for that which was necessary and HAD to do without what wasn't. guess what? we all are slaves to our government(s)taxing the living shit out of us all. the cost of necessity is more than the average person can bare, even when they SLAVE! AND, it ain't gonna get any better, no matter what the obomination promises. ask yourself, what is he going to do for me? get real, there is nothing.
Well here it goes. In the first place it was the the slaves own families that sold them into slavery not the white man. Also I am a white male and I have been discriminated against all of my life because I am a white male. Did you ever hear of affirmative action. Yes I grew up through civil rights and started working in the seventies. Every time I went for a job they had to hire minorities first. I once applied at a local manufacturing plant and they were hiring 100 people. I was told they could not hire one white male until they hired about 70 minority people. This has been the case my whole life. And there was about ten years that the State of Maryland never hired one white male all minorities. Not only that but where do you think the money is going to come from to pay for all of this. You guessed it OUR PAYCHECKS as if they don't get enough of our money now. Yes vote for Obama and if you are a working person there will be taxes out the ass like you have never seen before. Look at your pay stubs now because with Obama as President the amount in the tax column will be your take home pay and your net pay will be your taxes. So think about that all of you intelligent democratic voters. He is a true democrat more and more taxes and more government programs. The only problem the programs never work as well as they planned but you still pay the taxes. And even if the program fails and they scrap it they never lower your taxes they just keep your money for more and different programs. So with gas at $3.50 to $4.00 a gallon and food prices up we can't afford to elect Obama for President. Just think about that for a while.
This is a non-story which will only help to solidify the racist vote against Obama. All one has to do is read any comment thread tied to an Obama post on sbynews to see just how many racists there are among us. Makes me sick to my stomach.
You anti-Obama fanatics really need to see a shrink and get on some meds. Don't believe everything you read, and don't believe that a single person can singgle-handedly destroy America. Heck, Bush has been the worst president since Grant (and he might be even worse than Grant), and yet America continues on! Obama/Biden '08!
I have no problem with a black person hating whites. I just don't want that person to be an elected official, any more than I would want David Duke to be president. The biggest racist is Obama! He's running as a black candidate, not what he is, bi-racial. He most definitely favors his black side. Any white person who votes for this white hating creep is like totally stupid, man! And I don't hate or dislike black people. I don't have any use for someone with a proven track record of hating whites and probably America. (See years of affilition with a radical black church and even speaking to a terrorist and murderer who was quilty as hell, but set free on a technicality. He even admits what he did and says he wishes he did more. Yeah, I will vote to keep Obama from seeing the inside of thw White House except on a CLOSELY supervised visitors pass! Oh, and Biden: anyone remember when he ran for president and said he graduated first in his class. A little research showed that he finished near last! Isn't he the clown who the media was all over 10 months ago for saying Obama was "clean and articulate," like he was surprised a black man could be clean and speak well. I like Biden ok, but he is a Dan Quayle when it comes to putting his foot in his mouth. Expect to see that happen often during the debates:)
Wow! It is amazing how much ignorance is shown of these post. First of all, there are people of ALL colors are on welfare. Reading some of the post makes it seem that only black people are on welfare. That is just plain ignorance.
Second, black people only earned the right to vote in 1965 (the measurement of true citizenship). Forty three years ago. The lack of voting rights was another systematic process by the majority to remove the rights of American citizens. This along with Jim Crow laws helped make blacks the most hated citizens in America. I believe that forty three years is probably within the lifespan of many of this sites readers.
How many of these complaining posters people did anything to help out blacks during those times? It was only forty three years ago so how many of them faced the dogs. firehoses and death threaths from society? How many of them sacraficed anything so that all Americans could gain basic American rights?
Blacks are not given anything in this country. We had to earn it in ways that apparently a lot of people are trying to forget.
Now when times are tough, the first people who get blamed for everything that is wrong in this country are either black or poor people. Forget that we insist of buying products made in other countries or drive a car that gets only 20 miles per gallon. It has to be either black or poor peoples fault. The people who are NOT in charge of anything!
Yes I am an African-American. I have never ever been on welfare. Neither has my family. I work everyday as do my friends. I have worked since I was twelve years old. I graduated from college and have never looked back.
Perhaps we should start looking in the mirror to find out what is the matter with this country. It is not black or poor people. It is the politicians we put in office and our apathy.
That is the biggest croc of chit I've heard in a long time. These posts aren't racist. They're realistic. You must live in some friggin fantasy land. The thing about liberal democrats I'll never understand is why can't they see the obvious truth when it is staring them in the face.
anon:1:36 said: "Wow! It is amazing how much ignorance is shown of these post." "Second, black people only earned the right to vote in 1965 (the measurement of true citizenship). Forty three years ago.
Anon 1:36, Of all us ignorant morons who comment here, YOUR incorrect comment evinces that you are the MOST ignorant of us all! That makes you 'The King of Ignorance!" Are you stupid, ignorant or just like giving false information?
Here is the truth on the lie you told! Black Americans got the right to vote in 1870 when the 15th amendment was ratified! If you can read, please look this up. I trust you have a copy of the constitution in your home. Never mind; I'll do it for you! "...the right to vote shall not be denied or abridged on the basis of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." (15th amendment) It is true that there were many abuses like Jim Crow laws, etc. But the constiution made voting rights for blacks the law of the land in 1870. My math is also much better than yours! By my humble calculations, that is 138 years! You are so typical of those who don't have a clue about facts, but love to spout incorrect ones. Only people who aren't smart enough to know and weigh facts could vote for Obama! I take that back! An intelligent black person could vote for Obama based just on race, I would! There is NO excuse for anyone else!
I'm still for less government in our lives! There is no need for the government to regulate or be held responsible for the things that we as a colelctive group of civilized and educated people can not pull together and do for ourselves! If you need or want something...get off your rear and work toward it! Where the initial idea of all these democratic programs might be with heart, the human nature of the capitalist will always find the loop hole and take advantage and that leave the rest of us with less and less from the money we earned each paycheck! Obama is a scary scary man.
Bush is the one that should be lynched for making Colin Powell totally sick of politics or maybe he may have ran for president, this whitey would have voted for him.
Maybe Carl Rove told Bush to make Powell sound like a fool in front of the U.N. and the people of our nation or we might wind up with a blackman in the Whitehouse. Rove has always been the puppet master of Bush's strings.
You are correct about the 15th amendment, however, you are wrong about the majority actually following it.
I am sorry Mr. Littleton, but if blacks had the right to vote in 1870, then there would have been no reason to have the Voting Rights Act of 1965. That's the fact that you are ignorant about.
The 15th amendment may have given blacks the right to vote. It was the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that assured it.
Just admit it you have a problem with blacks. Or at least blacks with an opinion.
Everyone says G.W, Bush is such a terrible president, but I'd like to give the man a more positive review. I'm 60 years old, and I think G.W Bush is the 10th best president of my lifetime!
(1) Harry Truman: Thank you, Mr. President, for ending WWII so quickly, with minimal loss of AMERICAN lives!
Anon 4:58 The non-Jewish Germans should not apologize for the Holocaust. It was primarily crypto-Jews who did the killing anyway. The purpose was to "thin the blood line" of the Jewish people. The other purpose was to scare the poor Jews into relocating to a land which did not belong to them, and which they proceeded to steal, murder and pillage from the Palestinians. Much like the Europeans did to the American Natives a couple of centuries earlier. Check it out: The Thule Society, Skull and Bones, Adolph Hitler's lineage, Arnold Schwarzenegger's(?) lineage, the Reynold's Family, the Dupon Family, the Rothschild Family, and so on. The Jewish Ruling Elite has been lying to us for a long long time. Truth does not fear investigation. Rense.com
That is the biggest croc of chit I've heard in a long time. These posts aren't racist. They're realistic. You must live in some friggin fantasy land. The thing about liberal democrats I'll never understand is why can't they see the obvious truth when it is staring them in the face.
3:28 PM
To which I would say anyone who can't see how many racists there are around here is the person living in a "fantasy land", who can't see the "obvious truth when it is staring them in the face", as you put it. The only "realistic" thing about these comments is the "I like my black people to act white" sentiment, and the ultra-libertarian "GIT YER HANDS OFF MAH MONEY!!!" fear of public programs.
Holy crap! We've really got the nuts out here today! You seriously are crazy.
To Mr. Littleton, Close, but no cigar on the history. First, only black MEN got the right to vote by the 15th Amendment (a betrayal of all of the women who fought for this amendment, by the way). And despite the Constitutional amendment, blacks were systematically excluded from voting in many parts of the country (not just the South) through the use of unfair practices--most notoriously "literacy" tests. In documented cases, blacks were given Latin documents to translate in order to vote, while whites in the same jurisdiction were given a sentence from a children's book. Mr Obama may identify more with the black half of his ancenstry because many Americans (white, black, and otherwise) use outward appearance as the only identifier. I've seen it happen time and time again, where my black friends have received much more scrutiny when they go in a store than my white friends. That is just a semi-minor example, but imagine how sick of it you would be after a lifetime! In Salisbury, I have witnessed what appears to be discrimination in voting to this day. We have come a long way in terms of race in the last 50 years, but anyone who thinks we live in a racially blind society is simply naive.
Anon:10:01 said: "You are correct about the 15th amendment, however, you are wrong about the majority actually following it."
WTF? Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? I clearly wrote about abuses like Jim Crow laws! I The voting rights act to which you refer addressed these abuses. But black Americans were afforded the right to vote, by constitutional amendment, in 1870. THAT is the fact in question!
As for my having a problem with black people. I don't believe that to be the case. If I could choose McCain's running mate, it would be Secretary of State, Rice. I love political and social philosophy. In pursuit of this love, I started attending informal disscussions with black groups 30 years ago. Many times I was the only white person there. One such group is the Nation of Islam. Early on, they were the ones who shot me down dozens of times when I would spout some incorrect "fact" that was easily shown to be in error. ( The line used on me was (Man, you're dumb! Can you read?) Then they would show me, in historical documents, my error. Although we disagree on almost everything, I am grateful to them for teaching me the importance of having one's facts straight. Our discussions, as you can probably guess, are totally open and brutally honest. Although I am often the only white or Christian in attendance, I never feel physically threatened. We disagree strongly vocally, but there has never been a hint of intimidation. I also enjoy frank conversations with black Christians. I would enjoy conversations with black athiests, but I honestly have never met a black athiest. Anyway, if you asked any of these hundres of black people who kmow me very well if I have a problem with black people, I think a lot would say "no," but most would say "no more than most of white America. Thomas just has the interest and guts to stand toe to toe and have have brutally honest discussions. We respect that and like the old man."
To FF,
My dear young woman and friend. I was going to mention that blacks got the right to vote before women, but I thought it off topic and better addressed when someone else brought it up. Thank you for bringing it up. I have no argument with you on this. Women should have always had the right to vote, period. There should never have been a single American slave, Period.
FF, I agree with you, I'm goin to vote for Obama too. I like you am a high end secure white and I'm certain Obama will further keep the blacks oppressed and held back with more up-to-date federal programs {history has proven this}, hell I've got enough money I dont mind paying more taxes for this kinda program, the less money they have, the richer I seem. He'll make new programs because the current welfare program has been so reformed, alot have been weened off of it, of course we end up with folks that still arent motivated towards enterprize so they turn into thugs and live off the penile system, that holds them back a few more years. And that keeps the rest of middle americans slave to taxes to pay for these programs, which again....keeps them from catching up to bigger, better white corpirates like me and Final Frontier. If the blacks can vote for Obama because he's black, so can I {even though he's not really black, he's muslem at heart, and they dispize blacks more than anyone} I feel certain I can count on Obama to CHANGE that welfare system like he's promised.
Mr Littleton, you already know I respect you and your ability to make an argument. Although we disagree on a lot, you always back up your argument with facts and good debate. I have never seen what I would consider to be even the slightest amount of racism in your arguments (even though you are, of course, wrong WRONG when you disagree with me :) ). Obviously, that is not the case for some of the real nut jobs responding to this post, though. What the heck is the Holocaust denier doing on here?
gessh what a mess, we all should be thankful for our rights, all of them. I don't think I'm voting for obama however it is someone else's right and should be free from name calling or intimidation or because their grammar may be weak they are all stupid. that's not the melting pot of America that I was taught in school. maybe i should vote for pat robertson and just give up and say bring on the apocalypse. a lot of this is really school playground shit. my irish ancestors weren't treated so kindly either
"I'm sorry but if blacks were given the right to vote by the 15th amendment, then there would have been no need to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
To claim the right was given to blacks in 1870 is strange because it is factually true and a lie."
Sir or Mam,
You believe what you want to believe! I have explained the law to you. You obviously don’t understand the constitution. The voting rights law of 65 was great and necessary because it closed loopholes that discriminated primarily against blacks, but could be used to keep many other people as well. Millions of black people voted from 1870 to 1965, so they were not denied the right to vote because they were black. Some other excuse had to be found. There were more white people who couldn’t pass a literacy test than blacks. The Jim Crow type laws were addressed in 65 to take away loopholes against anyone of any color!” I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity to be involved in this discussion or even admit when you are dead wrong. Good luck with the reading comprehension thing!
FF, I think you told me once that you are a woman, and some other particulars which have nothing to do with the current topic.
I appreciate the honest clarity of your comment, "(even though you are, of course, wrong WRONG when you disagree with me :) ")
I'm quite sure you are correct about that. Over the last 40 years, I've been married 4 times and to 3 different women. As with most relationships, there were many disagreements over this span of time. I'm quite sure I was never correct or came close to winning even one of these arguments:))!
I really admire and like the way you fight with words:) You are generally very civil. But even when I'm in debate with those who aren't, it's very difficult to hurt my feelings. If I'm called stupid, ignorant, lazy, old, fat or whatever, I am in that person's debt for making me for making me address these issues which are usually true. I really can't do much about old or stupid; there is no cure for either one of those. Ignorance, however can be addressed and greatly improved if one is willing to read and accept that a long held belief may be incorrect if shown more and contradicting evidence.
Yep, I'm one of those liberal female types. I enjoy the insults, especially if they are clever! Usually they aren't, but once in awhile someone rips on me and it is pretty funny. The crazy ones like some of the weird stuff in the comments to this post make me a little concerned, though. Somehow an Obama presidency is going to lead to the spread of AIDS? Yikes! Where do people get these ideas?
Anon 11:43 was absolutely right. "so they turn into thugs and live off the penile system,"
Up until this point in time almost all civilization has lived off the "penile system." :) Hopefully, as human kind advances we will realize that superior physical strength isn't necessary to contribute and lead equally in a society. Then we can benefit from the talents of all people, of both sexes.
Look, back then when Slaves were still slaves, they got a home, a meal if any, a bed, a job and a since of respect. If they did anything wrong they were beaten, or punished severely. Now look at modern time we've got gangs, drugs and people thinking that they are in the high life. Now us working people, we have to pay welfare, high taxes, just so they can take the easy way out. Im not being racial or anything im just telling the truth. Wake up people, wake up. Look at our crumbling society. Im tired of paying and paying taxes, this that and the other. That money could go towards my budget, fuel cost, grocery items and healthcare. Oh, Plus my savings. What happened to no taxation without representation?
"Im not being racial or anything im just telling the truth."
Are you frigging kidding me, you asinine racist? Your comment is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. As a matter of fact, I actually feel more ignorant for having read it.
Anon 9:05 wrote, "Look, back then when Slaves were still slaves, they got a home, a meal if any, a bed, a job and a since of respect."
Dear Sir or Madam, To realize the absurdity of what you just wrote, please, simply reverse the roles. If the black or any other race enslaved you, your wife and any children that proceeded from you, and this enslavement meant the TOTAL submission of you and your family under the conditions you mentioned and many more that were much, much worse, would you have a sense of respect or that you were respected in any fashion? I hope not!
And we do have a congress and senate to represent us! Granted, they may not represent us well, but that's our fault!
I have never heard of a "penile system" so I am assuming the earlier comments were referencing our PENAL system(prisons and jails)The word PENILE referes to anything related to the PENIS.Whew!Now thats out of the way ....... I am descended from Confederate sympathizers on my Dads side,who lived on the Eastern Shore of Virginia.My great great great great grandmother died in the Eastville Va jail in Federal custody during childbirth after she was captured by Federal troops for aiding and abetting her husband,who was a federal "blockade runner".(I can verify this,before anyone asks)At no time did they own slaves,they merely smuggled in food and other goods that the Union soldiers had cut off from reaching Accomack and Northampton counties in retaliation for those areas defending the Confederacy.So where my money at?My ancestors werent enslaved but they were harshly mistreated by the Feds-wheres my payback? And while we are at-lets make the Germans pay off the Jews and oh goodness all us white devils better start paying the Native Americans off for what we did to them.Obama is a damn fool if he thinks Americans are gonna stand for his entitlement ideas.All he is doing is further dividing blacks and whites in this country with his rhetoric.As much as I despise the Republicans,I cringe at what the Democratic party has to offer us.I just want a President who will stop taxing me to death so I can maybe drive something newer than a 14 yr old car while my unemployed counterparts,black and white alike, have new cars because they have "entitlements".All the racist comments here are disturbing,but it shows that people are scared and that may be a good thing.All of us hardworking Americans of ALL colors need to unite.The sad (and frightening)thing is that many black voters are going to vote for Obama simply because he is the "black" candidate. And while I am alienating readers (LOL)let me add that if I hear the term "African American" one more time,I am gonna hurl.Unless they immigrated here in THIS century from Africa,black Americans are just that-black Americans.Enough of the PC crap.And for the last time folks,Obama is BIRACIAL-not black-not white-although he is hell bent on denying his caucasian roots til he is red in the face.What a slap to the white grandparents who raised him when his white mother and black father flew the coop and did their own thing.That tells me more about his character than anything else.
Ps-To the wit who claimed slaves were "happy" and "treated well"-thats mighty white of you to say
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If Obama wants to run this country as a socialist state he should come out and call it just that. I'm ready to take a responsibility vacation! Imagine not having to worry about a mortgage, health care, retirement, childrens education, transportation or anything for that matter. Like my ex says "just get more money", like it grows on trees.
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sounds good...although affirmative action should be based on socio-economic status, not race...There's alot of poor white folks in Pittsville and the rest of the Lower Eastern Shore that could use some assistance
so easy for all of YOU to play the race card isn't it. Big scary black man in office, RUN FOR THE HILLS!
HERE IT COMES.BLACK AFRICA AMERICA.THEN COMES AIDS,WORST POVERTY,UNEDUCATED PEOPLE DOUBLED,AND I BELIEVE JOE HAS IT RIGHT MOVE TO DELAWARE.
Good for him. A country can only be as strong as its citizenry. There is absolutly nothing wrong with education for all and health care for all. Denying these basic justices amounts to modern day slavery.
Quote from the referenced article "he's not calling for direct cash payments to descendents of slaves, but rather indirect aid in the form of government programs that will "close the gap" between what he sees as white America and black America."
What the hell does he think we have been doing with all these entitlement programs for the last 100 years.
Everyones tired of hearing that crap about slaves . It's been an excuse for over 60 years now. Start working for a living , I'm damn tired of supporting these idiots!!
You people are so afraid of the prospect of a black man being president you dont know what to do.
Why should we apoligize for anything ? We have done nothing wrong . Pick another subject this ones too easy!
Im moving to Canda if he becomes president.
Its got nothing to do with a "black man" in the white house. Its got to do with his "plan for change" being scary as hell. Im not saying what weve got going on right now is working but ill be damned if IM going to pay in any way for what my ancestors over 300 years ago did to my neighbors anccestors over 300 years ago. SCREW THAT!!!
You know what, if its going to be like that then i want to get some of it too. Im catholic, polish, & irish. So for each time my ancestors were punished for their belief or race then i want something given to me. I want free health care, i want to not have to pay my mortgage, i dont want to have to pay for groceries, i dont want to pay for heat or electric either. I better get cash to buy my kids school clothes and i want to have extra to put a down payment on that new 10 mile to a gallon SUV with the nice rims ive been staring at. Oh yeah and i want all this while sitting on my lazy ass at home all day...
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
4:15 PM has nothing to do with his color. Obama wants to TAX the big companies, love them or hate them but they make our economy work. He wants to tax these companies into the ground to pay for his “BIG CHANGE” which are nothing more then huge socialist programs. What people do not realize is that these big companies can move over seas with there money…it’s a world economy and we aren’t the only game in town anymore. So what happens then? We are stuck holding a the bag with no money in it.
Another thing...The only people that are saying anything about race are black people. Why is that?...Keep using your color as a crutch Black America, that is a sure way to prosperity...because it has worked so well for you those far
Should Germans apologize for the Jewish extermination camps?
You can definitely tell the white commenters on here. Racism is alive and well on the Shore.
I think this will lead to a 4 day vacation in January when it is all done.
The reason there is a vast difference of what blacks & whites have is that blacks are jealous over what whites have so they resort to stealing, killing, etc... They can go to college & work hard like I did to get what I have. They have the same opportunity as I do & more. I think the underlying problem is that blacks are jealous because whites were the ones that invented basketball & they didn't.
5:03 PM if you are referring to my post you are so wrong because I am BLACK! I guess in your eyes that makes me a Uncle Tom or “Sellout.” I just think it is time for people to take responsibility for there own lives…when that happens things will get better all around and you, 5:03pm will feel better about yourself.
Hey troops, get off your a** and get out and improve yourself. I dropped out of high School and joined the Marine Corps. When I retired from the Corps, I had passed the GED and got about two years of college in going at night, I went back to school and finished a BBA and went on to complete an MLS. And let me tell you it wasn't easy at all, we were living on my small Corps retirement and the salary my wife made working at a college. You can get what you want, but you've got to work for it. No one will give you what you want and that includes Obama!
A. Goetz
Nobody ever picked my cotton!
I'm sick & tired of these people living off of my wages and getting free housing, food and health care. Get a Freakin job you lazy ass leeches!
6:21: Well said Sir. My sentiments exactly, from a fellow gentleman of color
hey i want my 40 acres and a mule too damnit
while others argue about black and white, what about the indians that not only were taken for slaves but also had all their land taken away to boot. whiteman was nice enough to give them blankets for their exodus, blankets full of measals and small pox
not trying to sound racist however it is a fact that many may say they are voting, but following threw and doing it is another story
Why does this "ONE," this Berlin speech giving, radical black church going, friend to to American terrorist, white hating piece of crap not running as bi-racial instead of black? Could his white hating wife have something to do with that, or has he always hated white? His father and step-father were Muslims. His early, formative years were spent in Islamic training. I believe he's a Christian as much as believe Bill Clinton "didn't inhale." He always knew he had to be "Christian" to get where he wanted to be in American politics!
Is he a Muslim enemy in Christian sheeps clothing? I don't know, but I'm not willing to take even the slightest chance by voting for such a character.
He's not big and he's half white, but he is scary as hell! He hates his white side and embraces only is his blackness. I'm only one vote, but I'd wager Rev. Wright's
little buddy gets drubbed in November. I hope this electoral outcome doesn't set his other buddy, the terrorist, on another murdurous rampage.
The nastier FACTS about this "candidate" haven't even been told yet, but they will:)
Why doesn't the black population take responsibility for themselves? Bill Cosby has a great idea about this that is highly recommended!
In a nation where we rob Peter to pay Paul, one thing is certain....
Polititians can always count on the support of Paul.
How did my Scandinavian ancestors who moved here in 1900 own slaves?
Preference for any one race or religion is just plain wrong.If we truly all equal then how about a level playing field?Its not 1952 anymore.
Oh MY GODDD!
I'm going to research this further before I comment too much, but all of you missed the part where he supposedly said that he would "Declare certain neighborhoods in the 'Inner Cities' WARDS OF THE STATE!
WTF?
That means no parental rights, that means goverment in intrustion in all that you do, in and out of your home and how you raise your families! This is the most heinous thing I have ever read. This is not America!
Wymzie, it stopped being America a long time ago.
Hey 4:58-
Germany has apologized about the concentration camps. It has also paid over 61 Billion dollars in reparations thus far.
none in our family's history, both sides, ever had any slaves. we've always had to do for ourselves and it wasn't easy for our grandparents and their parents. we've always had to SLAVE for that which was necessary and HAD to do without what wasn't.
guess what? we all are slaves to our government(s)taxing the living shit out of us all.
the cost of necessity is more than the average person can bare, even when they SLAVE! AND, it ain't gonna get any better, no matter what the obomination promises. ask yourself, what is he going to do for me?
get real, there is nothing.
Well here it goes. In the first place it was the the slaves own families that sold them into slavery not the white man. Also I am a white male and I have been discriminated against all of my life because I am a white male. Did you ever hear of affirmative action. Yes I grew up through civil rights and started working in the seventies. Every time I went for a job they had to hire minorities first. I once applied at a local manufacturing plant and they were hiring 100 people. I was told they could not hire one white male until they hired about 70 minority people.
This has been the case my whole life. And there was about ten years that the State of Maryland never hired one white male all minorities. Not only that but where do you think the money is going to come from to pay for all of this. You guessed it OUR PAYCHECKS as if they don't get enough of our money now. Yes vote for Obama and if you are a working person there will be taxes out the ass like you have never seen before. Look at your pay stubs now because with Obama as President the amount in the tax column will be your take home pay and your net pay will be your taxes. So think about that all of you intelligent democratic voters. He is a true democrat more and more taxes and more government programs. The only problem the programs never work as well as they planned but you still pay the taxes. And even if the program fails and they scrap it they never lower your taxes they just keep your money for more and different programs. So with gas at $3.50 to $4.00 a gallon and food prices up we can't afford to elect Obama for President. Just think about that for a while.
This is a non-story which will only help to solidify the racist vote against Obama. All one has to do is read any comment thread tied to an Obama post on sbynews to see just how many racists there are among us. Makes me sick to my stomach.
You anti-Obama fanatics really need to see a shrink and get on some meds. Don't believe everything you read, and don't believe that a single person can singgle-handedly destroy America. Heck, Bush has been the worst president since Grant (and he might be even worse than Grant), and yet America continues on!
Obama/Biden '08!
Sounds like more goverment to enslave the people of every race, religion, idea and thought a person can have.
What's the problem with "universal" programs, Joe? That means everyone irregardless of race.
I have no problem with a black person hating whites. I just don't want that person to be an elected official, any more than I would want David Duke to be president.
The biggest racist is Obama! He's running as a black candidate, not what he is, bi-racial. He most definitely favors his black side. Any white person who votes for this white hating creep is like totally stupid, man!
And I don't hate or dislike black people. I don't have any use for
someone with a proven track record of hating whites and probably America. (See years of affilition with a radical black church and even speaking to a terrorist and murderer who was quilty as hell, but set free on a technicality.
He even admits what he did and says he wishes he did more. Yeah, I will vote to keep Obama from seeing the inside of thw White House except on a CLOSELY supervised visitors pass!
Oh, and Biden: anyone remember when he ran for president and said he graduated first in his class. A little research showed that he finished near last! Isn't he the clown who the media was all over 10 months ago for saying Obama was "clean and articulate," like he was surprised a black man could be clean and speak well. I like Biden ok, but he is a Dan Quayle when it comes to putting his foot in his mouth. Expect to see that happen often during the debates:)
Wow! It is amazing how much ignorance is shown of these post. First of all, there are people of ALL colors are on welfare. Reading some of the post makes it seem that only black people are on welfare. That is just plain ignorance.
Second, black people only earned the right to vote in 1965 (the measurement of true citizenship). Forty three years ago. The lack of voting rights was another systematic process by the majority to remove the rights of American citizens. This along with Jim Crow laws helped make blacks the most hated citizens in America. I believe that forty three years is probably within the lifespan of many of this sites readers.
How many of these complaining posters people did anything to help out blacks during those times? It was only forty three years ago so how many of them faced the dogs. firehoses and death threaths from society? How many of them sacraficed anything so that all Americans could gain basic American rights?
Blacks are not given anything in this country. We had to earn it in ways that apparently a lot of people are trying to forget.
Now when times are tough, the first people who get blamed for everything that is wrong in this country are either black or poor people. Forget that we insist of buying products made in other countries or drive a car that gets only 20 miles per gallon. It has to be either black or poor peoples fault. The people who are NOT in charge of anything!
Yes I am an African-American. I have never ever been on welfare. Neither has my family. I work everyday as do my friends. I have worked since I was twelve years old. I graduated from college and have never looked back.
Perhaps we should start looking in the mirror to find out what is the matter with this country. It is not black or poor people. It is the politicians we put in office and our apathy.
Anon 10:34.....
That is the biggest croc of chit I've heard in a long time. These posts aren't racist. They're realistic. You must live in some friggin fantasy land. The thing about liberal democrats I'll never understand is why can't they see the obvious truth when it is staring them in the face.
anon:1:36 said:
"Wow! It is amazing how much ignorance is shown of these post."
"Second, black people only earned the right to vote in 1965 (the measurement of true citizenship). Forty three years ago.
Anon 1:36, Of all us ignorant morons who comment here, YOUR incorrect comment evinces that you are the MOST ignorant of us all! That makes you 'The King of Ignorance!" Are you stupid, ignorant or just like giving false information?
Here is the truth on the lie you told! Black Americans got the right to vote in 1870 when the
15th amendment was ratified! If you can read, please look this up. I trust you have a copy of the constitution in your home. Never mind; I'll do it for you!
"...the right to vote shall not be denied or abridged on the basis of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." (15th amendment)
It is true that there were many abuses like Jim Crow laws, etc. But the constiution made voting rights for blacks the law of the land in 1870.
My math is also much better than yours! By my humble calculations, that is 138 years! You are so typical of those who don't have a clue about facts, but love to spout incorrect ones. Only people who aren't smart enough to know and weigh facts could vote for Obama! I take that back! An intelligent black person could vote for Obama based just on race, I would!
There is NO excuse for anyone else!
I'm still for less government in our lives! There is no need for the government to regulate or be held responsible for the things that we as a colelctive group of civilized and educated people can not pull together and do for ourselves! If you need or want something...get off your rear and work toward it! Where the initial idea of all these democratic programs might be with heart, the human nature of the capitalist will always find the loop hole and take advantage and that leave the rest of us with less and less from the money we earned each paycheck! Obama is a scary scary man.
Bush is the one that should be lynched for making Colin Powell totally sick of politics or maybe he may have ran for president, this whitey would have voted for him.
Maybe Carl Rove told Bush to make Powell sound like a fool in front of the U.N. and the people of our nation or we might wind up with a blackman in the Whitehouse. Rove has always been the puppet master of Bush's strings.
You are correct about the 15th amendment, however, you are wrong about the majority actually following it.
I am sorry Mr. Littleton, but if blacks had the right to vote in 1870, then there would have been no reason to have the Voting Rights Act of 1965. That's the fact that you are ignorant about.
The 15th amendment may have given blacks the right to vote. It was the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that assured it.
Just admit it you have a problem with blacks. Or at least blacks with an opinion.
Everyone says G.W, Bush is such a terrible president, but I'd like to give the man a more positive review. I'm 60 years old, and I think G.W Bush is the 10th best president of my lifetime!
(1) Harry Truman: Thank you, Mr. President, for ending WWII so quickly, with minimal loss of AMERICAN lives!
(2)Clinton
(3)Reagan
(4)Johnson
(5) Nixon
(6) Kennedy
(7) Eisehower
(8) G.H.W. Bush
(9) Ford
(10)G.W. Bush
(11)Carter
Anon 4:58
The non-Jewish Germans should not apologize for the Holocaust. It was primarily crypto-Jews who did the killing anyway. The purpose was to "thin the blood line" of the Jewish people. The other purpose was to scare the poor Jews into relocating to a land which did not belong to them, and which they proceeded to steal, murder and pillage from the Palestinians. Much like the Europeans did to the American Natives a couple of centuries earlier. Check it out: The Thule Society, Skull and Bones, Adolph Hitler's lineage, Arnold Schwarzenegger's(?) lineage, the Reynold's Family, the Dupon Family, the Rothschild Family, and so on. The Jewish Ruling Elite has been lying to us for a long long time. Truth does not fear investigation. Rense.com
That is the biggest croc of chit I've heard in a long time. These posts aren't racist. They're realistic. You must live in some friggin fantasy land. The thing about liberal democrats I'll never understand is why can't they see the obvious truth when it is staring them in the face.
3:28 PM
To which I would say anyone who can't see how many racists there are around here is the person living in a "fantasy land", who can't see the "obvious truth when it is staring them in the face", as you put it. The only "realistic" thing about these comments is the "I like my black people to act white" sentiment, and the ultra-libertarian "GIT YER HANDS OFF MAH MONEY!!!" fear of public programs.
To 11:25,
Holy crap! We've really got the nuts out here today! You seriously are crazy.
To Mr. Littleton,
Close, but no cigar on the history. First, only black MEN got the right to vote by the 15th Amendment (a betrayal of all of the women who fought for this amendment, by the way). And despite the Constitutional amendment, blacks were systematically excluded from voting in many parts of the country (not just the South) through the use of unfair practices--most notoriously "literacy" tests. In documented cases, blacks were given Latin documents to translate in order to vote, while whites in the same jurisdiction were given a sentence from a children's book. Mr Obama may identify more with the black half of his ancenstry because many Americans (white, black, and otherwise) use outward appearance as the only identifier. I've seen it happen time and time again, where my black friends have received much more scrutiny when they go in a store than my white friends. That is just a semi-minor example, but imagine how sick of it you would be after a lifetime! In Salisbury, I have witnessed what appears to be discrimination in voting to this day. We have come a long way in terms of race in the last 50 years, but anyone who thinks we live in a racially blind society is simply naive.
Final Frontier
FF
IMO you(no matter who you are) still should be literate in order to vote. AND NOT a convicted felon!
IF the shoe fits... don't vote.
Anon:10:01 said:
"You are correct about the 15th amendment, however, you are wrong about the majority actually following it."
WTF? Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? I clearly wrote about abuses like Jim Crow laws! I The voting rights act to which you refer addressed these abuses. But black Americans were afforded the right to vote, by constitutional amendment, in 1870. THAT is the fact in question!
As for my having a problem with black people. I don't believe that to be the case. If I could choose McCain's running mate, it would be Secretary of State, Rice. I love political and social philosophy. In pursuit of this love, I started attending informal disscussions with black groups 30 years ago. Many times I was the only white person there. One such group is the Nation of Islam. Early on, they were the ones who shot me down dozens of times when I would spout some incorrect "fact" that was easily shown to be in error. ( The line used on me was (Man, you're dumb! Can you read?) Then they would show me, in historical documents, my error. Although we disagree on almost everything, I am grateful to them for teaching me the importance of having one's facts straight. Our discussions, as you can probably guess, are totally open and brutally honest. Although I am often the only white or Christian in attendance, I never feel physically threatened. We disagree strongly vocally, but there has never been a hint of intimidation.
I also enjoy frank conversations with black Christians. I would enjoy conversations with black athiests, but I honestly have never met a black athiest.
Anyway, if you asked any of these hundres of black people who kmow me very well if I have a problem with black people, I think a lot would say "no," but most would say "no more than most of white America. Thomas just has the interest and guts to stand toe to toe and have have brutally honest discussions. We respect that and like the old man."
To FF,
My dear young woman and friend. I was going to mention that blacks got the right to vote before women, but I thought it off topic and better addressed when someone else brought it up. Thank you for bringing it up. I have no argument with you on this. Women should have always had the right to vote, period. There should never have been a single American slave, Period.
FF, I agree with you, I'm goin to vote for Obama too. I like you am a high end secure white and I'm certain Obama will further keep the blacks oppressed and held back with more up-to-date federal programs {history has proven this}, hell I've got enough money I dont mind paying more taxes for this kinda program, the less money they have, the richer I seem. He'll make new programs because the current welfare program has been so reformed, alot have been weened off of it, of course we end up with folks that still arent motivated towards enterprize so they turn into thugs and live off the penile system, that holds them back a few more years. And that keeps the rest of middle americans slave to taxes to pay for these programs, which again....keeps them from catching up to bigger, better white corpirates like me and Final Frontier. If the blacks can vote for Obama because he's black, so can I {even though he's not really black, he's muslem at heart, and they dispize blacks more than anyone} I feel certain I can count on Obama to CHANGE that welfare system like he's promised.
long live taxes and oppression!!
11:43,
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Mr Littleton, you already know I respect you and your ability to make an argument. Although we disagree on a lot, you always back up your argument with facts and good debate. I have never seen what I would consider to be even the slightest amount of racism in your arguments (even though you are, of course, wrong WRONG when you disagree with me :) ). Obviously, that is not the case for some of the real nut jobs responding to this post, though. What the heck is the Holocaust denier doing on here?
FF
"live off the penile system"
Ummm . . .
" bigger, better white corpirates like me and Final Frontier"
Yeah, you've got me pegged all right!
I'm sorry but if blacks were given the right to vote by the 15th amendment, then there would have been no need to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
To claim the right was given to blacks in 1870 is strange because it is factually true and a lie.
To 11:43,
That doesn't even make any damned sense. What kind of paranoid, fantasy world do you inhabit?
gessh what a mess, we all should be thankful for our rights, all of them. I don't think I'm voting for obama however it is someone else's right and should be free from name calling or intimidation or because their grammar may be weak they are all stupid. that's not the melting pot of America that I was taught in school. maybe i should vote for pat robertson and just give up and say bring on the apocalypse. a lot of this is really school playground shit. my irish ancestors weren't treated so kindly either
Anon 12:32 said,
"I'm sorry but if blacks were given the right to vote by the 15th amendment, then there would have been no need to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
To claim the right was given to blacks in 1870 is strange because it is factually true and a lie."
Sir or Mam,
You believe what you want to believe! I have explained the law to you. You obviously don’t understand the constitution. The voting rights law of 65 was great and necessary because it closed loopholes that discriminated primarily against blacks, but could be used to keep many other people as well. Millions of black people voted from 1870 to 1965, so they were not denied the right to vote because they were black. Some other excuse had to be found. There were more white people who couldn’t pass a literacy test than blacks.
The Jim Crow type laws were addressed in 65 to take away loopholes against anyone of any color!” I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity to be involved in this discussion or even admit when you are dead wrong.
Good luck with the reading comprehension thing!
FF,
I think you told me once that you are a woman, and some other particulars which have nothing to do with the current topic.
I appreciate the honest clarity of your comment, "(even though you are, of course, wrong WRONG when you disagree with me :) ")
I'm quite sure you are correct about that. Over the last 40 years, I've been married 4 times and to 3 different women. As with most relationships, there were many disagreements over this span
of time. I'm quite sure I was never correct or came close to winning even one of these arguments:))!
I really admire and like the way you fight with words:) You are generally very civil. But even when I'm in debate with those who aren't, it's very difficult to hurt my feelings. If I'm called stupid, ignorant, lazy, old, fat or whatever, I am in that person's debt for making me for making me address these issues which are usually true. I really can't do much about old or stupid; there is no cure for either one of those. Ignorance, however can be addressed and greatly improved if one is willing to read and accept that a long held belief may be incorrect if shown more and contradicting evidence.
Yep, I'm one of those liberal female types. I enjoy the insults, especially if they are clever! Usually they aren't, but once in awhile someone rips on me and it is pretty funny. The crazy ones like some of the weird stuff in the comments to this post make me a little concerned, though. Somehow an Obama presidency is going to lead to the spread of AIDS? Yikes! Where do people get these ideas?
FF
Anon 11:43 was absolutely
right. "so they turn into thugs and live off the penile system,"
Up until this point in time almost all civilization has lived off the "penile system." :)
Hopefully, as human kind advances we will realize that superior physical strength isn't necessary to contribute and lead equally in a society. Then we can benefit from the talents of all people, of both sexes.
Look, back then when Slaves were still slaves, they got a home, a meal if any, a bed, a job and a since of respect. If they did anything wrong they were beaten, or punished severely. Now look at modern time we've got gangs, drugs and people thinking that they are in the high life. Now us working people, we have to pay welfare, high taxes, just so they can take the easy way out. Im not being racial or anything im just telling the truth. Wake up people, wake up. Look at our crumbling society. Im tired of paying and paying taxes, this that and the other. That money could go towards my budget, fuel cost, grocery items and healthcare. Oh, Plus my savings. What happened to no taxation without representation?
"Im not being racial or anything im just telling the truth."
Are you frigging kidding me, you asinine racist? Your comment is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. As a matter of fact, I actually feel more ignorant for having read it.
Anon 9:05 wrote,
"Look, back then when Slaves were still slaves, they got a home, a meal if any, a bed, a job and a since of respect."
Dear Sir or Madam,
To realize the absurdity of what you just wrote, please, simply reverse the roles. If the black or any other race enslaved you, your wife and any children that proceeded from you, and this enslavement meant the TOTAL submission of you and your family under the conditions you mentioned and many more that were much, much worse, would you have a sense of respect or that you were respected in any fashion? I hope not!
And we do have a congress and senate to represent us! Granted, they may not represent us well, but that's our fault!
I have never heard of a "penile system" so I am assuming the earlier comments were referencing our PENAL system(prisons and jails)The word PENILE referes to anything related to the PENIS.Whew!Now thats out of the way .......
I am descended from Confederate sympathizers on my Dads side,who lived on the Eastern Shore of Virginia.My great great great great grandmother died in the Eastville Va jail in Federal custody during childbirth after she was captured by Federal troops for aiding and abetting her husband,who was a federal "blockade runner".(I can verify this,before anyone asks)At no time did they own slaves,they merely smuggled in food and other goods that the Union soldiers had cut off from reaching Accomack and Northampton counties in retaliation for those areas defending the Confederacy.So where my money at?My ancestors werent enslaved but they were harshly mistreated by the Feds-wheres my payback?
And while we are at-lets make the Germans pay off the Jews and oh goodness all us white devils better start paying the Native Americans off for what we did to them.Obama is a damn fool if he thinks Americans are gonna stand for his entitlement ideas.All he is doing is further dividing blacks and whites in this country with his rhetoric.As much as I despise the Republicans,I cringe at what the Democratic party has to offer us.I just want a President who will stop taxing me to death so I can maybe drive something newer than a 14 yr old car while my unemployed counterparts,black and white alike, have new cars because they have "entitlements".All the racist comments here are disturbing,but it shows that people are scared and that may be a good thing.All of us hardworking Americans of ALL colors need to unite.The sad (and frightening)thing is that many black voters are going to vote for Obama simply because he is the "black" candidate.
And while I am alienating readers (LOL)let me add that if I hear the term "African American" one more time,I am gonna hurl.Unless they immigrated here in THIS century from Africa,black Americans are just that-black Americans.Enough of the PC crap.And for the last time folks,Obama is BIRACIAL-not black-not white-although he is hell bent on denying his caucasian roots til he is red in the face.What a slap to the white grandparents who raised him when his white mother and black father flew the coop and did their own thing.That tells me more about his character than anything else.
Ps-To the wit who claimed slaves were "happy" and "treated well"-thats mighty white of you to say
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