The lawsuit was filed TODAY in Federal Court and while I will be delivering a series of articles on this matter, let me tell you what I do know.
First of all, I have seen ALL of the video footage of this incident. I have also seen the still photos as well as the POLICE REPORT.
Talk about INCREDIBLE inconsistencies from the Police Report vs. the actual video footage. Oh, there's a major storm about to hit the City.
Here's what bothers me the most about all of this. You have a ROOKIE Police Officer who, (as we have learned) has a history of complaints, yet he's still on the streets of Salisbury. We'll get into his history later but know I am aware of his history and we will document it soon enough.
Nevertheless, here are several college students getting arrested for BOGUS charges. The video shows one thing and the Police Report shows something completely different. Unfortunately, NO MATTER WHAT, these students lives are DESTROYED by one rogue Officer.
The upper brass at SU viewed the video and cleared EACH STUDENT. Get this, SPD confiscated the SU footage the very next morning and the students attorney had to subpoena the SPD for the footage because SU no longer had it and SPD was not willing to turn it over.
While the attorney and students tried everything they could do to get the City to respond, the City REFUSED to do so and now this case will go to Federal Court, (as it should).
It is time we EXPOSE local Law Enforcement. Spread the word about this case Ladies & Gentlemen because from what I hear there are MANY more complaints about this Officer and this Law Firm should be made aware of it. Leave it to your Mayor to IGNORE the seriousness of this case and not respond at all.
Below is the case filing documents:
U.S. District CourtDistrict of MarylandNotice of Electronic Filing
The following transaction was entered by Rommel, Luke on 9/3/2014 at 9:31 AM EDT and filed on 9/3/2014
Docket Text:
Case Name: Adams et al v. Aita et al Case Number: 1:14-cv-02793-RDB Filer: Curtis Adams Document Number: 2
NOTICE by Curtis Adams re [1] Complaint (Rommel, Luke)
1:14-cv-02793-RDB Notice has been electronically mailed to:
Luke A Rommel
1:14-cv-02793-RDB Notice will not be electronically delivered to:
The following document(s) are associated with this transaction:
Document description:Main Document
Original filename:n/a
Electronic document Stamp:
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MUCH MORE TO COME...
108 comments:
JOE,I hope the students sue the individual separately.
Unfortunately cops do lie too...I wish I knew why some let the power go to their head. So much for serve and protect!
No lives destroyed here.These students are about to get their 15 minutes,courtesy of the SPD.
Lets see it on Fox news.
SU students get a pass for underage drinking all the time, I have to go with Salisbury police on this one.
Three sides to every story, mine-theres-truth!!!! Report it all!
I will wait to see all the facts and the video.
If it's one of Kolb's boys he will cover for him
I heard this cop is OUT of control, how do these cops pass a psychological test??? Is there even one given by SPD.
It's been a while since I've posted on here. But I would like to revisit an issue, nay, a person of the highest regards who could possibly assist SPD or any other agency that would like it. The word is that there is an opening for a Captain's position at SPD. I would like to recommend, again Lee Stevens for this position, I believe SPD could benefit from Lee's expertise, intelligence and his uncanny ability to lead from the front. I'm certain that WCSO and Sheriff Lewis would back me up on this. Lee, we love you man.
W.W.L.S.D.
To the obvious low life POS that commented at 1:01pm, I am sure you are a fine upstanding citizen! I bet if you posted your name we could all look you up on the case search website and find many a time you had a run in with law enforcement, Oh but wait all those times must have been someone else's fault or you were "profiled"...PLEASE!! Pull up your big boy pants and take some responsibility!! You sound like a teenager who always gets in trouble saying it's not my fault...blah blah blah!!! You are what's wrong with this world, never taking responsibility for YOUR actions!! Stop blaming it on everyone else!! I realize that not all COPS are good...but most of them do their job because they want to make a better place for their kids and YOUR kids to live. This guy apparently has a reputation and if there is video that shows him doing something wrong then he will get what he deserves! But don't put all cops in the same basket together!
Old enough to die ..carry a gun and kill for your country but not respinsible to drink is crap law...55y/o wm and not a democrat...
3:29
You are looking pretty stupid about now
3:29 just as the 1:01 fool said you too should think before you type. As I agree with you on taking responsibility for ones actions has been left to the wayside lately. The problem arises from the Cops of today are all Alpha Males who are highly educated and do not always take in to consideration the situation. Example: If one of these Military Dressed Cops stop you for a seatbelt violation along let's say Route 13 and you say something out of line the Alpha Male does not like there is a good chance you will be removed from the car and handcuffed by more than one officer if needed. It started as a seat belt and turned into resisting arrest! All because the officer has thin skin and does not like to be talked down to. They have done this to themselves as they try to be the BIG ENFORCER ! Mouth Off and get Tazed or Pepper Sprayed just for TALK! So just as you don't want to be lumped in a category don't you say the same things for the out of control ALPHA MALE COPS!
Now this is a funny POS. Curtis and friends have not even been to trial for their distasteful behavior and they are suing Aita amd SPD. Well I guess Luke will get paid for his services. Once again the lawyer will be the winner while the tax payers foot the bill to defend policemen doing their job.
Since the weekend holiday all I have seen on the highway have been cops. City, County and state. I have seen them on the side of the road, in the middle with radar, and hiding around corners. I have been driving the speed limit, not talking on a cellphone, and minding my own business..... I guess that is why I didn't get to meet any of these officers.
Waaaaaa, dont forget how the loudmouth thug from ferguson mo ended up.
I will wait to see the evidence for myself. Great reporting Joe if what you say is an absolute fact. I heard about this story I too have heard at least five versions of the truth. It will all come out in the wash. Do not know many of the city cops. They seem to have scraped the bottom of the hiring pool for some time. The fact they are a Nationally Acredited Department concerns me.
I thought they have strict hiring procedures. The Mayor lives in a bubble. The guy has no grip on reality. There needs to be change sooner than later. It could get very ugly for Salisbury City.
I do hope they give this officer due process and do not cave in to the public or political pressure. Invetigate and if the cop was wrong burn he or she. If not do the right thing. The city has changed in a bad way since Ivan Barkley left. I live near the college and the kids are out of control. Even you know this Joe.
If you are a city cop right now you are much safer on the streets then in your own building. The Brass is out for blood. Like crabs in a basket not letting anyone up for air. They all want Ivans spot. Hire Mark Tyler back as Chief. Why did he leave. Ireton wake up ass wipe you are not in Disney anymore.
How can SU "no longer have the footage"? The video stays on the hard drive of the recorder even if a copy is down loaded or burned to disk until it is over written. Did SU not keep a copy of the footage for themselves being that it involved their students?
Duncan is breeding a corrupt organization and will retailliate against anyone who goes against her.
Heres a hint to all you locals.....if there is any truth to this mess the city of salisbury could be finished. This could cost the city millions of dollars the city simply doesnt have. The officer in question was representing the city of Salisbury and the city is responsible for his actions. It might be a good time for you folks to think about an escape plan.....salisbury wont survive this if any of this is true.
Maybe he needs to spend some more time near Church St. and do some real policing instead of beating up the little guys from SU... SU students are easy prey while the rest of our wonderful city ROTS from crime...
Well at least we have a trolley
I don't know what this incident was started about but I think it was about under age drinking.I grew up in montgomery county md and went to high school in the 50's at that time it was legal for anyone 18 years old to drink beer and wine in wash dc.myself and every other teenager headed to the district on fri n sat night there was never any trouble,I feel strongly that if you are old enough to go in the military(either volunteer or drafted)you are damn sure old enough to drink a beer. If the stupid politicans won't change the law at least the cops could lighten up. THE DAMN COPS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!
THE MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF HAVE BEEN COVERING UP STUDENT CRIMES FOR YEARS ,SO THAT SALISBURY CAN TELL SU PARENTS COME
TO OUR COLLEGE ITS SAFE...???...NOT.
SPD should be desolved and the city given to the Sheriff's Office.
I work at SPD so some facts for you readers: crime stats are fudged for many reasons except when they need grant money for something. Duncan is a clone of Dipino but OCPD can chime in on that. Whatever video evidence is found in this case, SPD will cover it up by saying something happened off-camera prior to incident. Aita is an aggressive officer and that suits them when they want it too. He too will be hung out to dry if the Mayor chooses. Why have so many officers left for other agencies? Maybe the answer is not the officer but SPD. As for the comment about Mark Tyler being chief, what a joke. Not only was he lazy but quite the suck-up as are most of the senior staff dying to be promoted. Sorry but Duncan isn't the answer. You have to be around a little more and not stuck up the Mayor ass.
6:34 PM Yes we do have a trolley, but we also have a $1,000,000 Fireboat a gazillion dollar fire palace with ground broken for another and on, and on...this could be fun to watch! Salisbury you deserve what you get you elected the morons and let them do as they pleased!
6:39 Was that at Shepard Park or Sparky's ?
Whatever became of Lore Chambers suit against the City of Salisbury and mayor Jimbeau?
You know it's easy to bash the police when you are involved in something where YOU are at fault but how about at 2am your door is being kicked in by individuals that you don't know who do you call? The cops to come protect you. A simple traffic stop can turn deadly at any minute. They protect you so you can go home to your family every night. God forbid they go home to their family after work.
Not all students are bad, neither are they all good. The same is true for police and any other group. Broad brushes are dangerous. However, I can say that very bad and illegal behavior by a small percentage of SU students has resulted in violence against neighbors and police by belligerent, entitlement mentality drunks who come here To party instead of learn. It is a shame, but it is true. SU police, state police, Fruitland police, and WCSD have all had to join forces with SPD to keep this under control in the city and county.
I will wait to hear specifics of this particular incident, but have seen officers and the public put at risk in what appear to be similar situations too many times to assume that the police were wrong.
Those bozo plaintiffs will get smoked in the federal court along with their attorney!
Well I guess there is a difference between you and I, I was taught to respect authority. That's where all the problems have come from people like you who think it's OK to talk "down" (your words not mine) to law enforcement. You are certainly aren't going to.get.cut any breaks.if you act like an ASS...as you have just shown of yourself. If you don't give respect you don't get any in return so I hope the next time you talk down to an officer you get pepper sprayed, sounds to me like it would teach you a little lesson!
What exactly was stupid about the post? You must be the one that needs to pull up his big boy pants!! lol
Sounds to me like spoiled brats with nothing better to do but waste our tax dollars let mommy and daddy foot the bill Grow up!
Ur a moron.
Let me explain a little something to some of you commenters.
I have seen ALL of the video/audio footage.
I have seen the police report.
Once a Judge sees the absolute inconsistencies of what may become a fraudulent official document it will become serious trouble for those parties involved.
The SPD is screwed this time. There's not only footage from SU, there are over FIFTY WITNESSES who ALL have a very different story than the Officer and his report.
So sit here and make your tough guy comments anonymously. The Court of Public opinion will destroy you this time.
Oh, NO, I have NOT called President Obama to send in his people on this white on white situation. Wrong administration and unfortunately it will not get national attention, as it should.
I don't know what this situation is all about, or who is in the right or wrong. What I do know and see, I live on Smith Street and watch many groups walking by drunk, peeing in bushes (both boy and girls) drunk so much as they stumble when they walk, attempting to steal stop signs & other disgusting unmentionables. I am sure most of these students are underage since most start college around the age of 18. Maybe if fines were put in place increasing with each violation they do, they would think less about getting drunk and wouldn't want to be broke paying all the fines, or take their scholarships away, stiffer penalties.
Yeah !!!
Who r the witnesses but friends of these sppoiled rich college studentu?
"You know it's easy to bash the police when you are involved in something where YOU are at fault but how about at 2am your door is being kicked in by individuals that you don't know who do you call?"
Answer: I call S&W because it will take the cops to long to get here.
"A simple traffic stop can turn deadly at any minute."
Most traffic stops don't do a darn thing to help or protect me. Guess maybe they should be more careful who they stop.
"They protect you so you can go home to your family every night."
No they don't. If they were protecting me and my neighbors they would be on constant patrol and on foot patrol in high crime neighborhoods not doing traffic stops.
"God forbid they go home to their family after work."
And I pray that they go home safely every night as I do the service members overseas who have really put their lives on the line for a lot less pay and in conditions that would make the homeless uncomfortable.
Why do the police always need apologists? They must be doing something wrong.
Knowing the officer involved and his higher than god attitude I have no doubt the city is in deep trouble. If they had come out and publicly fired the officer after reviewing the real evidence....all would have been forgiven....but now they will sink along with the bad cop. Plain and simple.
Run Perdue and the College out of town.
I had a run in with 2 Salisbury cops a black guy and a white cop they where bith cool and professional, unfortunately there is a rotten apple in every job, keep up the good work SPD.
To 7:51 I hate to inform you of this. But if your door is kicked in at 2:00am the police will arrive after you are dead. If you don't protect yourself no one else will. Check the response times for SPD calls.
QUESTION DID THE SALISBURY PD HAVE A SEARCH WARRENT FIR THE VIDEO THEY TOOK FROM SU...? IF NOT SHAME ON SU SECURITY.
I'm wondering if the police report so directly contradicts the film footage and photographs, will the cop who wrote that report be prosecuted? Making a false statement to a cop will get you arrested (and prosecuted). Filing a false report of a crime can actually land you in PRISON, depending on the seriousness of the lie.
Can a cop sit down and write a narrative of an event that is not only self-serving, but obviously a lie? Without consequences? We'll see. I'm talking to YOU, Matt.
7:51 is delusional and 8:07 is a short little cop. NO COP comes to "save" you or protect you from a home invasion. They show up to write "reports". And EVERY citizen has an absolute right (under the Constitution) to "talk down to cops". They are SERVANTS. We have no mandate to like them, respect them, be nice to them, or be polite. And considering the FACT that they kill hundreds of citizens a year, many who are unarmed and merely just pissed off a cop, DISrespect is in order, not the reverse.
Police have forgotten their place. Further, they need some stiff reminders that they are not in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, or any other place where they are the all-powerful, gun toting killer tough guys beating people at will and spraying automatic gunfire whenever and wherever they please (I'm referring to the incident in downtown where the cops unloaded on a guy and used automatic rifles -- with no regard as to where those rounds landed ---they didn't hit the suspect, lol).
Equal justice for all, under the law. Make ALL police wear body camera's (and if it convienently "malfunctions" during a bloody arrest, 6 month suspension without pay). Make police personally responsible for their egregious actions.
And PROSECUTION for cops who witness police crime, but fail to report it or stop it.
Of course, THAT would require the State's Attorney to get off his knees, wipe his mouth clean and do his job FOR THE PEOPLE. And the judges who condone these Gestapo tactics? Public whippings.
I'd say more, but then the SS would come to my house and I'd have to create some orphans.
5:33 thats absolutely not true. Duncan is a fool. She is creating problems within her agency. the morale is down. She is trying to prosecute those under her who actually do their job correctly. Most who work there can't stand her. They would never go out into the community and seek out those who disagree with her and carry out acts of retribution on her behalf. haven't seen the videos or the report. I must reserve my comments until I see the evidence. And remember. We're innocent until proven guilty. It may be that the strategy is to force the Police department / state to drop charges capitalizing on recent events which have caused confidence in the police to erode. Lawyers actually facilitate this exploitation. Attorneys have been pond scum for long time.
I'd rather deal with the students than the cops any day!
Anonymous said...
SPD should be desolved and the city given to the Sheriff's Office.
September 3, 2014 at 6:57 PM
I have been saying that for years.
Why are you simply teasing your remaking news rather than posting the complete report ?
Hmmmm lets see
PT MAYOR
PT SHERIFF
PT POLICE CHIEF
ALL = LOW MORAL AND OUT OF CONTROL COUNTY / CITY.
This officer is a fine young man dedicated to serving his community.
How about people learn to respect authority once and for all.
Why wasn't the Salisbury University Police involved? Do they even have power? What do they do to earn their pay? They don't patrol streets, they don't run radar, they don't investigate accidents, they rarely make arrests. Are they even real cops? Maybe they should go back to being security. They are basically useless. At least UMES police earn their pay.
Maybe it's time for the City of Salisbury should hire a Public Safety director. Someone needs to get these firemen and police officers under control. Get rid of Hoppes and Duncan.
Speaking of the Fire Department Mare Jimmie Ireton is having a ground breaking Friday at 2pm on the corner of Brown and Naylor Streets.
"You know it's easy to bash the police when you are involved in something where YOU are at fault but how about at 2am your door is being kicked in by individuals that you don't know who do you call?"
Answer: I call S&W because it will take the cops to long to get here.
"A simple traffic stop can turn deadly at any minute."
Most traffic stops don't do a darn thing to help or protect me. Guess maybe they should be more careful who they stop.
"They protect you so you can go home to your family every night."
No they don't. If they were protecting me and my neighbors they would be on constant patrol and on foot patrol in high crime neighborhoods not doing traffic stops.
"God forbid they go home to their family after work."
And I pray that they go home safely every night as I do the service members overseas who have really put their lives on the line for a lot less pay and in conditions that would make the homeless uncomfortable.
9:13 they won't prosecute an officer who lies, Duncan's administration actually prefers liars. Kolb is her crony and handles the disappearing evidence and witness intimidation.
How were the students' lives destroyed?
8:54 are you serious?
Let me say this. The public has forgotten there is case law that allows officers to sue false accusers. If in fact this case comes to a conclusion that clears the officer I would sue evryone involved in slandering his or her name. That goes for the city as well as the students. Student will claim they have nothing. Well that does not fly any longer in Federal Court. Your wages upon graduation can be garnished. In fact up to 25%of your gross earnings can be garnised. I hope this young officer was smart enough to join the Fraternal Order Of Police they have great lawyers out of Baltimore that could give a rats ass about Jimmy liarton and his liberal self serving agenda. That also goes for any administrator that maliously attacks this officer bet your attorney did not tell you that. The Officer can sue the administrators on a personal level. Forget the city garnish the wages of those that violate your L.E.O.B.R. if in fact violated. Then the drunken little shit college kids that think because they pay tution they can crap down the necks of the people who actually pay taxes and live here year round. You can not take your child around the campus at night drunk kids are everywhere cursing, pisssing in the streets etc.. It is sickening. If this officer violated rights he needs to pay. If not he has a laundry list of people he or she can sue. We all just saw what happened in Somerset.
Why does the S.P.D. have 16 openings in such hard economic times Joe. They should have elected you Mayor.
Oh by the way Mark Tyler is making awesome money with half no make it one quarter of the stress. He saw the sinking rat ship and jumped. Good for him. You do not even repect eachother why do you think the citizens would. Really.
What this story, and the preceding one on Mike Lewis overstepping his authority yet again, does is reflect the monumental distrust citizens now have of cops. And, these are just two current incidents in a small rural area of just one state. One can only imagine how this inflates on a national level.
The instant cops traded our trust for self righteous glorification, personal gain and power is the very moment they became the rightful targets of contempt and profane public scrutiny. This collective feeling among citizens will only continue and probably escalate until there is change or something more belligerent.
Collateral damage is an expression any military person and many civilians understand as being the damage caused to innocents or neutrals during a campaign. That said, those professing to be or are claimed to be a 'good cop', you are the collateral damage spawned by your criminal brothers in blue. So, don't attempt to hide behind valor or deed for you are of the clique and, as you might say, an accessory to the crime.
Until major changes are made within law enforcement any and all cops are worthy only of distrust and contempt. It is something they themselves have brought upon themselves and proven over and over again.
Ireton sucks he truly does. Dont know Duncan but boy do I know Jimmy. You guys got just what you deserve for electing the inept egotistical fool
4:29PM
I firmly disagree with your assertion and delusion that cops are 'alpha males'. An alpha male, while dominant, is attentive and protective of his charges. Cops are no more alpha males then a transvestite ladyboy.
U must be a thug.
As for SU handing over the only copy of the incident, that is WRONG! SU makes copies and to give for evidence. What ever footage was captured, is on their extremely large memory and last for a long time before being deleted. I know the officers at SU and trust me, if they can burn a cop, they will. As for SPD, it wouldn't surprise me if they are trying to cover up an incident for someone in their clique.
Anonymous said...
Ireton sucks he truly does. Dont know Duncan but boy do I know Jimmy. You guys got just what you deserve for electing the inept egotistical fool
September 3, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Jim Ireton has F*ked over a couple of good city employees because is he a spineless twofaced leader. His flip flopping of department heads and jumping in bed with his known enemies has cost him a lot of respect and I am hoping the Lore Chambers suit brings him down. I am sure if the employees that got screwed could they would also go after Jim. Time is also a factor. Hopefully he will be toast before the next upcoming election in the city.
Is Luke Rommel one of "the" Rommels? If so the pockets are deep and the lawyers will be good. Let the facts speak for themselves when presented and let's sit back and enjoy. Thanks Joe for bringing this up.
910 and 958 - both of you are idiots. Educate yourself before you make stupid comments
To the comment on "rich spoiled college kids" you should be thanking God that SU is here in Salisbury,,,without it this town is toast
Also, to make such a generalization on college kids makes me sick... the jealously factor and envy for kids bettering themselves is so unnecessary.
So many other college towns embrace the kids and form a partnership... here in Salisbury because so many people are un-educated--horribly un-educated, there is anamosity... ridiculous but real
You know we can all sit here and bash cops or not and talk about how many citizens get shot every year...we'll how many have been shot around here? How many were shot in ferguson in the past? It's always going to come down to race because lord white people are trying to hold blacks,Hispanics and every other non-white down! That's just a poor excuse for lazy people! I work in healthcare and see every walk of life...9 times out of 10 those people are on medical assistance and their whole family is and they have no intentions of getting a job and they will tell you that! Obama has bred a society of entitlement and this translates over to the way people can treat cops! IMCLAIN is obviously a degenerate piece of society who is a drain on the tax paying people in the world! How does ii feel IMCLAIN to be a lazy mooch?! I bet your whole family lives off the rest of folks with jobs and a little drive! Sit behind you computer that Obama bought you and shut your lip! You are what's wrong with society and why people sue for everything they can, think that we all owe you something!!
I want to know how the cops got the video from the SU cops without a warrant? Or did SU just give it UP.
"Run Perdue and the College out of town."
And what will the city depend on for income? A mall with 3 open stores and an applebees? Truly no one can be that dense so therefore you must be a troll.
I would rather be toast.
Good for you--Enjoy your "toast"
For this city to ever get better Duncan has to go and get a real chief who cares about the city
Perdue hires criminals. And sex offenders, the college is a joke
Talk about getting a jump on a story,I haven't read anything about this incident anywhere BUT Sby News.Odd that other sources haven't mentioned it.
pay attention to Worcester county.. you are the one who was so happy to leave Wicomico
That's so stupid like the county does not have issues
I have also had a run in with this individual. Ended up having to go to trial and have the whole case thrown out because of lies that he and his fellow officers told. I too am in the process of filing a lawsuit against salisbury police dept. Protect and serve, what a joke. It's more like harass and arrest.
10:11, One thing that the General Manager at WMDT said to me personally was that they had never seen a reporter with as many sources as I have.
Salisbury News continues to grow each and every day because PEOPLE WANT THE TRUTH.
Keep in mind that the local Media do NOT want to piss off the Chamber or ANY elected officials they have an agenda with.
So if ANY of you wonder why we keep growing leaps and bounds, it's because we deliver ALL of the major news on the Shore and always have since we started.
We get information first because people know they have been burned by WMDT, WBOC and the Daily Times. Now you have Greg Bassett publishing a new FREE newspaper that obviously only shows the LIBERALS on the Shore and pampers them like children. It reminds me of the Metropolitan. You PAY to get recognized and it cracks me up every month because all I can think of is the "Who's Who" BS publication.
While I may not be the most liked guy on the Shore, at least I work harder to tell the truth and expose the things your local media walk away from because of politics and MONEY.
Do cops break the rules, all the time. Do YOU ever become aware of it, hell no. Unless SBYNews gets it. While I'm sure many people are upset that I do not stand behind Mike Lewis or Barbara Duncan, I'm not looking to be their friend. Yeah, I know. If my properties catch on fire the fire department won't put it out. If I have to go to the hospital, I'll die there. If someone breaks into my properties, I'm on my own. I GET IT. That's the price I/We pay for telling the TRUTH. GOOD OL' BOYS
We have SSu students renting in our neighborhood. They are underage drinking, urinate in the front yard.
Caught having sex on their cars.
Basically animals. the county council needs to do some legislation to keep them no more than 2 to a household where they rent.
The students run this city. I don't care what the cops do to them.
7:01...stuck in a dead end job and angry about it? LOL!
You're so far off base, if this was a basball game,you wouldn't even be in the stadium.
Don't you think that every cop in the area has run my name and SSN number, my address, my tag, and anything else they could get (answer? yes. MANY times) in order to find SOMETHING they could post to denigrate me?
Believe it -- if I was on welfare, or had a traffic ticket, or did jail time, or didn't pay the taxes on my 4 bedroom home, built for me in 1998 (I'm such a mooch....) or had a smidgeon of a problem ANYWHERE, some cop would have already posted it like he was annoucing the next president. So, you gave it your best shot, which was pretty pathetic, but you were TOTALLY wrong. Including the part about my family, all of whom are full time employed with good jobs.
That part crossed the line, by the way.
But I would expect nothing less from someone with your apparent high standards of class and demeanor.
Finally, I'd really hate to be a black patient under your care.
Maybe a cop can look into that....
And so it begins. Still laughing?
Hope my words are not too harsh this time Joe.
Stop calling the good ole boys.
They are blue lodge masons. They look out for each other and lie when they need to do so.
Joe,
I can't do much about the hospital or the fire, but if someone is breaking into your house and you need help, call me, not the police.
I hit what I shoot at and can be at your house in less than 8 minutes.
Keep telling the truth and exposing what the local media for what they are --- boot-licking lackeys publishing the propaganda given to them by so called "leaders".
@11:29 AM
Despite these offenses, that may or may not have happened, Salisbury Students still have a better grasp on the English language and would run circles around you mentally.
Really, what is with the anti University trolls on SBY news?
Please share with us then why you hate cops? You don't just wake up one day and them? Talk about standards, you must really been born without commonsense as well to think it's OK to talk down to an officer, most decent people are raised to respect authority whether that is a teacher, an elder or a cop but apparentry this is not so in your case. I am glad to hear your family is well employed helping the rest of us pay for society's undesirables, so as a tax paying citizen I would think you wold want cops to do their jobs and keep the streets you pay for safe. Hating a cop is certainly not the answer. There a are bad cops just like any profession there are bad and good, bad ones usually overshadow the good. But to just hate them all? Really doesn't make any sense.
OK here it is:
Kops are stupid. They are the government enforcers of statutory laws.
Our once-great-nation rebelled against England because of statutory law. That's why statutory law is NOT A PART of our US Constitution.
The Constitution allows for COMMON LAW, CONTRACT LAW, and ADMIRALTY LAW. No Statutory Law.
Kings issued statutes. Not democratic republics.
Under Common Law we are all KINGS. We are sovereigns. All of us. Including non-Americans. We own our bodies and our property.
There can be no crimes (under common law) without a victim. Period.
Statutory Law is the excuse used for CONTROL over the public by an illegitimate government.
You must drive 55 mph. That is a statute. If you drive faster than 55 mph, you are guilty of violating a statute. However, there is no victim. No body was hurt. No property was damaged.
Drunk driving. Did anyone get hurt? Was any property damaged?
If no, then go about your business. You are a sovereign. Maybe you got lucky. So be it. You did not hurt anyone and did not damage any property.
Learn about the Constitution
Although, I have not read the police report...
I objectively viewed all videos. In the first video it appears that a police officer enters the crowd to affect an arrest. However, it is unknown what is said or what occurred prior to the police officer taking action. The person could have been disorderly or committed another crime. It is unclear from a traffic camera point of view. A disorderly situation can be anyone screaming or yelling loudly or otherwise behaving in a disorderly manner to the contrary of the public peace. Secondly, as we hear from the person filming "are you going to read me my rights?" or something to that effect, is also incorrect. A police officer is not required to read someone their Miranda rights unless it is a custodial interrogation. Only then is it required to avoid suppression of said questioning at a trial. Absent of that, the police have no requirement to read anyone their rights upon arrest. Such is a complete misunderstanding of Miranda and the functioning of our criminal justice system. Such is reserved for Hollywood dramas and action movies.
Moreover, while filming the police may provide someone who is not committing a crime some protections, it is not an excuse to provoke, inflame, or commit a crime. Mind that someone filming the police can still commit a crime while filming, such as yelling and screaming or otherwise being disorderly (again a general statement not specific to this case in particular). Persons in the crowd can be heard yelling profanities loudly.
There is such a thing as freedom of speech but as an American you do not have absolute freedom of speech. For instance you cannot incite a riot or breach the public peace. You do have the right to peaceably assemble with a permit, which is not the case here.
At the point where the police officer was arresting the suspect you see members of the crowd start to walk inward. The police officers orders them to back up. One person does not comply and continues to be close to the police, thus resulting in his arrest. This is also a disorderly statue violation, failure to obey a lawful order of a police officer and obstructing and hindering a police officer. The police, being only one or two officers with a large group, have an absolute right to their safety and security. Those officers do not know if someone in the crowd will assault them or otherwise interfere with an arrest procedure. Yelling loudly, it itself, if witnessed or creating a public disturbance in and of itself is illegal. People seem to forget that especially when recording the police.
Police officers have an absolute right to use the proper amount of force to affect an arrest. At no time did it appear that anyone was beaten, shot, or otherwise abused or mistreated. At this point I did not observe the police acting unlawfully or abusing any authority afforded to them under the law.
On the heels of Ferguson, citizens think that because they record the police, it gives them the right to abuse the police and carry on however they see fit (speaking generally, not specific to this situation). It is the contrary. The tendency to think that police officers taking police actions is abusive is incorrect. In this instance, what we are to believe is that persons, minding their own business, walking down the street were attacked by the Salisbury City Police, is completely incorrect and inane. Allowing persons to yell and scream in the street is the definition of disorderly conduct. Failure of police to take action results in lawlessness. Lawlessness begets anarchy.
As a society we hang on a dangerous precipice of managing civil liberties with complete lawlessness due to societies lack of understanding of laws and abuse of police authority. As a big believer of the constitution I firmly believe in our civil liberties. However, they have limitations.
Evan Avnet
Tactical American Security Consulting, LLC.
I pray that none of you are in need of the SPD services after slandering the department and this officer.
How can you take a side without seeing any evidence? Also, it might benefit you to look up the amount of underage drinking citations issued... SPD isn't lacking on handing those out.
In any crowd, there will always be idiots. It is unfair that parents and children have to live in the same neighborhoods as college kids, but our options are quite limited. If only two individuals were allowed to live in one house instead of four, parties would still continue, but there would be twice as many college houses.
I would rather see a major lawsuit filed against the Salisbury Fire Department.
I guess it is a generational thing, but maybe it is a sign of the times. I am 54 years old and have been stopped multiple times over my lifetime. I have always been respectful to the officers who stopped me, and I have never had a problem with them. I do recall having been stopped by one or two who I didn't like their attitude but I knew that if I matched my attitude to theirs things could go a whole different way.
I have been issued a few tickets, but mostly warnings, which I thanked the officers for, and I never subscribed to the theory that I could "talk down to them." Sure, I guess I could. They could also find a way to take me to jail. I don't always agree with the laws of the nation and I really get a little angry when the politicians and government officials don't follow the law and yet expect me to follow it, but I do not blame the officer for that. I also recognize that there are some bad apples on the police force but if we go into the situation with the idea that "these are my servants and I can talk down to them if I want to," then I think you reap what you sow. Trouble. No one is my servant. Even from the point of view that I may pay their wages, they are not my "servants" anymore than I am a servant to my employers. If my employers were to start "talking down to me and treating me as a servant," they would soon be looking for a new employee.
But again, maybe it is just a generation thing. I was taught to respect authority, to have respect for my elders, and to obey and respect my parents. I don't think that many of the youth are taught these things.
8:54 AM if it is that important to you go for it. Do you actually have a case, or are firemen just a thorn in your side?
1235 I agree with most of what you said
They do not 'work for us'. They work for the department which is run by trained experienced professionals.
The department, just like many others, is funded by the taxes we pay as citizens.
That's the way this country, state, county, city works.
If one doesn't like it, present a positive proposal for a better way and work hard to implement it.
Otherwise shut up and get out of the way or move to Russia.
IT'S ABOUT TIME. SUE THE PANTS OFF THIS DEPARTMENT.
They have been changing police reports for some time, that's how they fudge the crime stats. If a door gets kicked it, they count it as destruction of property rather than a burglary and since there is no suspect, there is no report and the victim is just given a case number for their insurance. The Feds really need to investigate this corrupt agency.
By this coming week,beginning with 9/8 this will fall apart and a lawsuit will look ridiculous.Don't bet your first born on this fiasco constituting an actual case.
They do what they want and get away with it, I've seen it happen.
Man this post struck a nerve! I don't even know what to say. I do know one thing and that is I don't trust government at any level.
This is the kind of stuff you are good at Joe, keep up the good work.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I pray that none of you are in need of the SPD services after slandering the department and this officer.
September 5, 2014 at 1:48 AM
Learn the definition of slander. If they/you can't take the heat, find a new job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1235 I agree with most of what you said
They do not 'work for us'. They work for the department which is run by trained experienced professionals.
The department, just like many others, is funded by the taxes we pay as citizens.
That's the way this country, state, county, city works.
If one doesn't like it, present a positive proposal for a better way and work hard to implement it.
Otherwise shut up and get out of the way or move to Russia.
September 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM
You sound like a brochure and about as classy. Your whole statement is wrong except the part about the dept. being funded by tax dollars. They do indeed work for us and the city can disband them at any time. Which I think they should. Get another agency to cover Salis. or hire all new.
hey fool did you see the new post wirh the gentle giant cop?
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