Not a true U.S. citizen . But it makes no difference because the United States of America will probably end up under foreign control if he does not quit borrowing and spending money that we will never be able to pay back.Yes I voted for him , but he turned out no better than Bush.A total disappointment.
I find it hard to believe that a lot of the same people that loathe Hillary Clinton would believe that her and Bill just sat back and allowed a person not born in the USA beat them in the Democratic Primary.
Why would they do that?
And what about McCain/Palin? Why wouldn't they challenge the nomination? Or Newt? Or any of a number of people that Obama has absolutely no pull with. It makes no sense that every Republican would just sit back and allow Obama to win the Democratic nomination and then even begin the general election. To believe they did nothing while a non-citizen became President is to believe that every Republican leader is either ignorant, inept or corrupt.
Hell NO! this counrty needs to get with the program! Liberls are allowing foreigners to take over our great nation... Such a shame... Worst mistake was voting this idiot into office!
It DOES make a difference- we have a Constitutional requirement that the President be a natural-born US citizen, and he may not be either one. I don't believe he is, or he wouldn't be spending a fortune trying to hide his documents. This is the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on this country.
Bingo! Ron Brawl hits the nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself.
All you nutcases out there pushing this insipid birther message are no friends of right-thinking, normal Americans. You probably think there are little green men on Mars, too!
Ron and the other liberals in here...It was questioned and asked for but the information was withheld as it still is and they really couldn't accuse until the evidence presented itself 100%. The lack of disclosure has pushed many people to delve deeper and the more they do the more is uncovered. Put down the Kool-Aid and take a step back.
No I dont. If someone would just show the nation a real birth certificate we could put this to rest. But no. Even before the election nobody could prove he was a citizen and nothing has changed. He's not my President and I refuse to suport him. I believe there is an enormous cover up by our government and we're being forced to accept it. The USA has become a joke to the world and our citizens.
I'm not a liberal. What I am stating is the case for the birther movement is actually a case AGAINST Republican leadership. No PROMINENT Republican is a birther. Why is that? Ron Paul, whom I am a big fan of, isn't afraid to stir the pot, yet he isn't a birther. Boehner? McConnell? Bobby Jindal? Newt? If the case for Obama being foreign born was as strong as some alliege I believe a lot of Republicans would have made it a point during the campaign- most of all John McCain, Karl Rove, W, Cheney.
Are we saying Rove and Cheney don't have the guts to call Obama foreign born? Are we saying Rove and Cheney are too ignorant? Too inept to see it?
No, it is a leap too far for me. I don't mind others believing what they want on the issue, but I respectfully disagree.
And if that makes me a "liberal" then I'd have to also say that makes me question your understanding of what it means to be conservative vs liberal. Nowhere in the definition of either is does it ask for the birthplace of Barack Obama. How about fiscal policy? Foreign policy? The role of government in everyday life? No, because I don't go along with the birther movement I'm suddenly liberal.
NO and this country is to full of Bleeding Heart Liberals that don't have the balls to ask him to prove it. These same liberals are the ones that are allowing our country to be taken over by foriegners and illegal aliens. Look what L.A. is doing? Boycotting Arizona because of their legislation on illegal aliens. WTF!!
Nope. I don't think he is American in any aspect. He doesn't care about America and he has some other agenda that we will all see clearly if he isn't stopped very soon.
Although an affirmative answer most likely won't be printed, I vote yes. Not because I am a staunch O supporter, but have the belief that he powers in our government would not have allowed a non-citizen to obtain the office without proof. Just because YOU have not seen it, doesn't mean it hasn't been presented prior to his election.
I don't trust Obama any more than a street bum, but he is a citizen. The man is shady and true politician. He has his birth certificate but he ain't going to show it as long we keep this crap up.
Stop the nonsense, you are falling right into the liberals hands. We need to get smart and start outsmarting the far-left; until then you all look foolish.
The Republicans spent the whole Clinton administration chasing around about some stupid trailer-park deal in Arkansas that was nothing. Same thing here.
Think about from this perspective. If someone made such a ridiculous suggestion about you and you knew you could settle the misunderstanding by simply providing the proof, wouldn't you. Now ask yourself why our President won't.
to 11:46 your equating a stupid trailer park to a monumental constitutional crisis over presidential eligibility???? what rock are you from? my god- what a sad day when a moral equilavence can be drawn from 2 separate events that in no way shape or form, are even remotely alike in severity, and consequences. Trailer park deal-big deal-no consequences. Illegally elected president-lots of consequences-like every law he signed and every judge he nominated is fraudulent and thus, null and void. Trailer park deal!!! My gosh- I've heard it all now. Thats the dumbest thing I've heard today. Trailer park??
11:23 Ron Brawl you are the type of Republicans that I respect!!! Your party needs more people like you. You have the utmost respect of this liberal democrat.
No! The worst part of all this....my daughter who was born on a US Navy base in Italy is not considered a "Natural Born Citizen" but the anchor babies who are born here are???? How right is that one?? Do not believe it....Per US Foreign Affairs Manual: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth." (as codified in the department's Foreign Affairs Manual)
So the illegal who crossed the border and had a baby....that baby can become president but my child who was born to 2 US citizens on a US military instillation cannot. Where is the justice in that???
An individual entrusted with our nations highest honor, serving the American citizens of our great nation would have without question provided a valid birth certificate at the very beginning of any speculation whether or not he was an American citizen.
Its disgusting how many could give a damn whether our President is even an American!!! Shame on all of you who says he is-yet he has no documents supporting he is an American. How truly sad you are not caring-not demanding your president do the right thing and stop all this speculation. Shamefully, he simply cannot, because he simply is not.
Second, at this point, does it really effing matter.
Lay off of it. Even if it turns out 40 years down the road that "OH NO" he doesn't have his name on a piece of paper with a little stamp, would it change ANYTHING? Anything at all?
NO, he applied to college as a foreign student and now we find out his SS# is from conn. and not issued till 1977, 2 yrs after he was scooping ice cream. this dude's gotta go, but then Biden?, hmm its kinda like impeachin clinton and not throwing himout because of having the Gore factor,
I think he was born in a different country. I have my birth certificate in my possession and if you wanted to see it I would show it to you. No problem. What is his problem with showing us his BC?? Really. I thought from the beginning that he should not have been able to run for President of the United States. He should be impeached. Hopefully it will happen before we are completely and utterly ruined as a country...and that is happening fast.
NavyBrat Mom you wrote, "No! The worst part of all this....my daughter who was born on a US Navy base in Italy is not considered a "Natural Born Citizen" but the anchor babies who are born here are????"
Actually, John McCain was not born in America, either. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. It is my understanding that being born on an American military base anywhere in the world is considered the same as being born in America. Otherwise, I guess the liberals would have had their own birther conspiracy.
I don't agree with the birther movement, but I don't mind it either. I certainly won't disrespect them.
For my money, it's a shame we don't have this level of outrage and passion on something like getting a better tax system, such as a flat tax, flatter tax or national sales tax. Pouring this much emotion into the question of his birth, to me, is like believing you're going to hit a gut-shot royal flush on the river card and going all in based on this belief. The odds of Obama being impeached, removed or ever being found to be an illegitimate President is very, very long.
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No, I do not. He will not show it, why? because he is not U.S. born, and may not be a citizen.
NO!
Hell NO...we will find out maybe in 40 years. If we are still around to care.
What differance does it make, are anchor babies U.S. born citizens when their parents are illegals.
Not a true U.S. citizen . But it makes no difference because the United States of America will probably end up under foreign control if he does not quit borrowing and spending money that we will never be able to pay back.Yes I voted for him , but he turned out no better than Bush.A total disappointment.
No - and we won't find out the truth until after he is out of office.....
No, why else would he not want to show absolute proof? I also believe he is hiding much more.
Chet
NO! He should be removed from office before we are screwed anymore.
I find it hard to believe that a lot of the same people that loathe Hillary Clinton would believe that her and Bill just sat back and allowed a person not born in the USA beat them in the Democratic Primary.
Why would they do that?
And what about McCain/Palin? Why wouldn't they challenge the nomination? Or Newt? Or any of a number of people that Obama has absolutely no pull with. It makes no sense that every Republican would just sit back and allow Obama to win the Democratic nomination and then even begin the general election. To believe they did nothing while a non-citizen became President is to believe that every Republican leader is either ignorant, inept or corrupt.
I just don't see it.
no
Hell NO! this counrty needs to get with the program! Liberls are allowing foreigners to take over our great nation... Such a shame... Worst mistake was voting this idiot into office!
It DOES make a difference- we have a Constitutional requirement that the President be a natural-born US citizen, and he may not be either one.
I don't believe he is, or he wouldn't be spending a fortune trying to hide his documents.
This is the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on this country.
Bingo! Ron Brawl hits the nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself.
All you nutcases out there pushing this insipid birther message are no friends of right-thinking, normal Americans. You probably think there are little green men on Mars, too!
Ron and the other liberals in here...It was questioned and asked for but the information was withheld as it still is and they really couldn't accuse until the evidence presented itself 100%. The lack of disclosure has pushed many people to delve deeper and the more they do the more is uncovered. Put down the Kool-Aid and take a step back.
No ! Ron Brawl is a follower and is the nut case. I will take your beans and beef from you in time.
NO ! IMPEACH HIM !
No I dont. If someone would just show the nation a real birth certificate we could put this to rest. But no. Even before the election nobody could prove he was a citizen and nothing has changed. He's not my President and I refuse to suport him. I believe there is an enormous cover up by our government and we're being forced to accept it. The USA has become a joke to the world and our citizens.
No,no, and did I say no? Show me the proof and I will shut up.
NO!
Ron Brawl:
It was the Clinton campaign that revealed that Obama doesn't have a birth certificate.
just keep drinking the Kool Aid Ron
I'm not a liberal. What I am stating is the case for the birther movement is actually a case AGAINST Republican leadership. No PROMINENT Republican is a birther. Why is that? Ron Paul, whom I am a big fan of, isn't afraid to stir the pot, yet he isn't a birther. Boehner? McConnell? Bobby Jindal? Newt? If the case for Obama being foreign born was as strong as some alliege I believe a lot of Republicans would have made it a point during the campaign- most of all John McCain, Karl Rove, W, Cheney.
Are we saying Rove and Cheney don't have the guts to call Obama foreign born? Are we saying Rove and Cheney are too ignorant? Too inept to see it?
No, it is a leap too far for me. I don't mind others believing what they want on the issue, but I respectfully disagree.
And if that makes me a "liberal" then I'd have to also say that makes me question your understanding of what it means to be conservative vs liberal. Nowhere in the definition of either is does it ask for the birthplace of Barack Obama. How about fiscal policy? Foreign policy? The role of government in everyday life? No, because I don't go along with the birther movement I'm suddenly liberal.
Poppycock.
NO and this country is to full of Bleeding Heart Liberals that don't have the balls to ask him to prove it. These same liberals are the ones that are allowing our country to be taken over by foriegners and illegal aliens. Look what L.A. is doing? Boycotting Arizona because of their legislation on illegal aliens. WTF!!
Independent source:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
Nope. I don't think he is American in any aspect. He doesn't care about America and he has some other agenda that we will all see clearly if he isn't stopped very soon.
His presidency proves America is going stupid.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2009/williams091209.htm
worth the read if you question ovomits citizenship.
Although an affirmative answer most likely won't be printed, I vote yes. Not because I am a staunch O supporter, but have the belief that he powers in our government would not have allowed a non-citizen to obtain the office without proof. Just because YOU have not seen it, doesn't mean it hasn't been presented prior to his election.
Yes.
I don't trust Obama any more than a street bum, but he is a citizen. The man is shady and true politician. He has his birth certificate but he ain't going to show it as long we keep this crap up.
Stop the nonsense, you are falling right into the liberals hands. We need to get smart and start outsmarting the far-left; until then you all look foolish.
Hell NO!
Yes
Ron:
Right back at ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
No.
Ron:
Another one.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
The Republicans spent the whole Clinton administration chasing around about some stupid trailer-park deal in Arkansas that was nothing. Same thing here.
To Late To Worry About That Now
NO, and he doesn't care about America either. Sooner or later, we will all come to realize this.
Think about from this perspective. If someone made such a ridiculous suggestion about you and you knew you could settle the misunderstanding by simply providing the proof, wouldn't you. Now ask yourself why our President won't.
Wrong Jerry if he is found to be an illegal President he will be removed and all signed bills and policies will be null and void !
to 11:46 your equating a stupid trailer park to a monumental constitutional crisis over presidential eligibility????
what rock are you from? my god- what a sad day when a moral equilavence can be drawn from 2 separate events that in no way shape or form, are even remotely alike in severity, and consequences. Trailer park deal-big deal-no consequences. Illegally elected president-lots of consequences-like every law he signed and every judge he nominated is fraudulent and thus, null and void. Trailer park deal!!! My gosh- I've heard it all now. Thats the dumbest thing I've heard today. Trailer park??
No
yes, he is definitely a citizen.
hell no!
yes
These answers are a genuine testament of the IQ on the Slower Lower.
amen 3:35
and Yes I do otherwise he wouldn't be the President of United States.
Yes, of course.
He has more proof of citizenship than I have and has shown it.
Hell no no American citizen would want to destroy the USA like illegal
immigrant Obama is doing he hates America just like Michelle
Nope.
Absolutely NOT!!
No
Not a chance!
We will never know.
Yes.
Yes and he has proven it you bunch of idiots!
No
No way.
No
11:23 Ron Brawl you are the type of Republicans that I respect!!!
Your party needs more people like you.
You have the utmost respect of this liberal democrat.
No! The worst part of all this....my daughter who was born on a US Navy base in Italy is not considered a "Natural Born Citizen" but the anchor babies who are born here are???? How right is that one?? Do not believe it....Per US Foreign Affairs Manual:
"Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth." (as codified in the department's Foreign Affairs Manual)
So the illegal who crossed the border and had a baby....that baby can become president but my child who was born to 2 US citizens on a US military instillation cannot. Where is the justice in that???
(:24 until you disagree with him you mean.
God lord, even Michelle is a birther.
No, I am afraid not.
An individual entrusted with our nations highest honor, serving the American citizens of our great nation would have without question provided a valid birth certificate at the very beginning of any speculation whether or not he was an American citizen.
Its disgusting how many could give a damn whether our President is even an American!!! Shame on all of you who says he is-yet he has no documents supporting he is an American. How truly sad you are not caring-not demanding your president do the right thing and stop all this speculation.
Shamefully, he simply cannot, because he simply is not.
No!! He is a disgrace to our country. We need to get him impeached before more damage is done!
First off, yes.
Second, at this point, does it really effing matter.
Lay off of it. Even if it turns out 40 years down the road that "OH NO" he doesn't have his name on a piece of paper with a little stamp, would it change ANYTHING? Anything at all?
NO,
he applied to college as a foreign student and now we find out his SS# is from conn. and not issued till 1977, 2 yrs after he was scooping ice cream.
this dude's gotta go,
but then Biden?, hmm
its kinda like impeachin clinton and not throwing himout because of having the Gore factor,
5:59 Does the rule of law mean a damn thing to you ? It's a law for a reason , so foreign countries can't take over our country !
I think he was born in a different country. I have my birth certificate in my possession and if you wanted to see it I would show it to you. No problem. What is his problem with showing us his BC?? Really. I thought from the beginning that he should not have been able to run for President of the United States. He should be impeached. Hopefully it will happen before we are completely and utterly ruined as a country...and that is happening fast.
NavyBrat Mom you wrote, "No! The worst part of all this....my daughter who was born on a US Navy base in Italy is not considered a "Natural Born Citizen" but the anchor babies who are born here are????"
Actually, John McCain was not born in America, either. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. It is my understanding that being born on an American military base anywhere in the world is considered the same as being born in America. Otherwise, I guess the liberals would have had their own birther conspiracy.
I don't agree with the birther movement, but I don't mind it either. I certainly won't disrespect them.
For my money, it's a shame we don't have this level of outrage and passion on something like getting a better tax system, such as a flat tax, flatter tax or national sales tax. Pouring this much emotion into the question of his birth, to me, is like believing you're going to hit a gut-shot royal flush on the river card and going all in based on this belief. The odds of Obama being impeached, removed or ever being found to be an illegitimate President is very, very long.
Honestly, 7:33 I prefer Biden.
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