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Sunday, April 10, 2016

Do You Believe Pit Bulls Are Dangerous Dogs?

Yes or No

92 comments:

Cathy said...

No. People are dangerous.

Anonymous said...

Yes. Just like sharks but on land. They don't always attack but do so more than other dogs and usually the attacks are horrible.

Anonymous said...

Yes and no. I have one and it's the best dog I ever had. But if you want one to be tough or intimidate it will come back to bite you. They like a leader it makes them feel secure you can't be wishy washy or they will take over.No got was ever so loyal it you must make the dog believe you are and deserve to be the leader. Most popular dog in America until after ww2 also the most highly decorated dog of war.The best dog for the right person

Anonymous said...

Yes.

But the same came be said for any dog that is raised improperly, I have met some nice Pits. The one pit that comes to mind is the most gentle loving dog I have ever met, but at the same time it does not like any other dogs and if let loose will kill another other dog.

I personally will not own one, just like I will not own other breeds that have the capability to inflict massive harm to me or family and friends.

Anonymous said...

YES !!!! and the facts on attacks prove it.

Anonymous said...

Yes,but only if a person owns multiple pits and allows the pack mentality to take over.

Anonymous said...

Yes

Anonymous said...

No. Any breed of dog can be vicious if trained to be. The breed cannot be blamed for their people being irresponsible. Solution anyone caught fighting dogs or abusing dogs should be euthanized!

Anonymous said...

Yes absolutely because of something called inherent traits. If anyone knows about dogs they can not deny that Pit breeds can be inherently dangerous more so than most other breeds. Just like a retriever is hardwired to retrieve, an Australian Shepherd is hardwired to herd, a Great Pyrenees is hardwired to guard livestock, hound breeds are hardwired to follow a trail by scent and on and on. Pit Bull breeds were originally bred to fight and were used as "catch" dogs to hunt and kill wild hogs and cattle. They have a high attack risk because of this. You can not entirely breed out an inherent trait or "love" it out of any dog, ever. It's impossible. To say otherwise shows a complete ignorance and complete lack of knowledge when it comes to dogs. It's always there and no one knows when and what will trigger a dog's instincts to surface.

Anonymous said...

You sir are an idiot. Do your research on dog bite statistics and you will find chihuahuas bite more people than pits, rotties, dobermans, and Shepards combined.

Pits by nature are loving, compassionate, and loyal dogs. I've owned seven in my lifetime. My wife, children, myself, and all my family and friends still have all of our limbs. The only hazard that pose is suffocating you because of constantly wanting to lick your face. They are powerful animals and are only dangerous if made that way. My four year old can walk my largest male. Whom is 3 times his weight. The only sign of aggression I've ever experienced is when a strange guy came to the door when the babysitter was at the house. He started to reach for the screen door and my male put himself between the door and the babysitter. Raised his lip, showed his teeth, a few barks later that guy beat feet.

Anonymous said...

9:46 NO you can NOT train any breed of dog to be vicious! It depends on the breed. Dogs like Golden Retrievers, Beagles while working breeds aren't hardwired to be vicious no matter how hard you try. It may work for a guard dog breed (Doberman, Rottweiler, etc) but not all dogs.

Anonymous said...

yes. my yellow lab has a basic instinct to fatch and retrieve ducks
pit bulls have a basic instinct to attack bite and be very protective. Would you be comfortable with a pitbull around your 15 month old? think about it..........

Anonymous said...

Yes as former owner of one. Raised and loved him, and after having for 5 years and spending lots of times around her, he without provocation attacked my elderly mother and chewed her face off.

They have violent genes than can be sparked up any time.

Anonymous said...

No. It's the owner, not the breed, that are dangerous.

Anonymous said...

No I do not believe they are but they can be just like any dog can be. If you train the dog right and give them love and raise them as a dog then they are wonderful pets. Too many ignorant people train them to be mean because they are so massive and muscular. Kind of like that old saying goes one apple don't spoil the whole bunch. Don't judge all for a few bad ones.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they are bread to fight and kill. Can not be trusted.

Anonymous said...

I have always believed its the owners but after living across the street from an owner of pit bulls bred over and over, I have changed my mind the mother dog was an angel that wouldn't bite a bisquit, all her pups wound up not trustworthy.

Anonymous said...

Yes, when I look at their face and into the their eyes I see evil and attack potential.

Anonymous said...

YES..

25 years ago, I was driving to work through a very nice neighborhood and saw 2 pit bulls running lose. It went through my mind to run over them but naturally didn't. 2 days later they attacked a 9 year old waiting for the school bus and tore off most of his scalp. He was rescued from death by a neighbor with a large shovel.

Other breeds don't do things like that.

Anonymous said...

"You sir are an idiot. Do your research on dog bite statistics You sir are an idiot. Do your research on dog bite statistics and you will find chihuahuas bite more people than pits, rotties, dobermans, and Shepards combined.


WRONG. You need to DO YOUR RESEARCH and a good place for you to start would be the CDC which tracks dog attacks. Pit breeds and Pit mixes are overwhelming responsible for dog attacks AND most all fatalities are caused by Pit breeds or Pit mixes.

"you will find chihuahuas bite more people than pits, rotties, dobermans, and Shepards combined."

This is so absurd that I refuse to address it other than say you couldn't be more off base if you tried. Again go to the CDC site and do your research before commenting further because inaccurate info is never productive.

Anonymous said...

My niece adopted one, and it was violent whenever guests were over or when she took him out for walks.
She sent him to a dog obedience trainer, and the dog bit the trainer. The trainer told her the dog was dangerous to her and had too many violent tendency's. It broke her heart, but she had to have it put down because of this.
I am a dog owner with two Welsh Corgi's. There are breeds that were breed to fight. The Pit Bull is one of them. I've seen some that weren't violent, but were still very hyper and aggressive. Even with good dog owners, this is not a good breed to have. Most home owners policy's won't insure you if you own a Pit Bull. Too many liability issues with them.

Anonymous said...

Some statistics-

Pit Bulls are NUMBER 1 in attacks AND fatalities---
FYI 9:59 Chihuahuas don't even make the list of the top 35 dog breeds involved in attacks.

Pit Bulls
Attacks doing bodily harm: 3,397
Deaths: 295

Rottweiler
Attacks doing bodily harm: 113
Deaths: 15


German Shepherd
Attacks doing bodily harm: 535
Deaths: 85

Siberian Husky
Attacks doing bodily harm: 83
Deaths: 26

Akita
Attacks doing bodily harm: 70
Deaths: 8

Anonymous said...

Yes and unpredictable

Anonymous said...

Anyone who would have these around children or old people is an idiot.

Anonymous said...

nope, they received one of the best score for temperament by the AKC.
great family dogs, grew up with them.

not chihuahaus, those things will bite anyone anytime

Anonymous said...

From 2005 to 2012 Pit Bulls were the breed most responsible for fatalities in the US at 60%.
Next is the Rottweiler at 13%, then Husky at 4%. The Mixed Breed (which also includes some Pit breeds) also at 4%, American Bulldog at 3.6% and the German Shepherd at 3.6%.

Anonymous said...

Stop with the outdated myth that it's the owner and not the dog.

This debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to only grow into a 30-year old problem. Designed only to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is mostly genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent and disfiguring injuries and sometimes death.

The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many appellate courts agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style. According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they are prey driven

Anonymous said...

"nope, they received one of the best score for temperament by the AKC."



This is NOT true. The AKC does NOT rate breeds for best temperament. They DO offer an opinion on the Best Family Dogs and Pit Bulls don't make the list.

Anonymous said...

I believe that personality wise, no dog is more dangerous or aggressive than any other breed. Their temperament depends 100% on their upbringing and how their owner treats them. However, when it comes to a dog's ABILITY to be dangerous, pit bulls are pretty much at the top of that list. Their incredibly muscular build makes them much stronger than most other dogs, which would make it harder to control them, thus harder to keep them from attacking or to fend them off. Have you ever seen the size of a full bred male pitbull's head/neck/jaw in real life?! It's like a cinderblock made of muscle. Once a pissed off pit bull bites down, nothing will get them to let go short of gouging their eyeballs our or shooting them.

That being said, I have met lots of sweet cuddly pit bulls with GOOD OWNERS. But due to the fact that as a breed they are naturally much stronger than most other dogs, pit bulls can inflict much more damage in comparison to other breeds. So unfortunately, sh*tty people have exploited their strength and ability to inflict damage which has cast a very negative shadow over the entire breed.

Anonymous said...

I ❤️ my corgi

Anonymous said...

Okay it's time to end the debate. Whether you like it or not, no matter how anyone tries to spin it, the FACT is Pit bulls are overwhelmingly responsible for most of the dog attacks in the US.


Animal control and health departments in at least 28 U.S. states report that pit bulls are out biting all other dog breeds, including: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin. The oft-quoted claim by pro-pit bull groups that pit bulls "do not bite more than other breeds" is wholly false. WHOLLY FALSE! Along with dominating bite counts, the pit bull bite is also the most damaging, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injuries and death.

Anonymous said...

9:55 nailed it!

Anonymous said...

Dogs are only as dangerous as to how you raise them...

Like people every dog has their own personality...

In fact it has been PROVEN that the smaller dogs, such as the type people call ankle bitters are the most aggressive...

The only reason why you dumb ass people say Pit bulls are dangerous, is because of the known cliche of people fighting the dogs, which any dog can be made aggressive or to fight, and because you see it on or hear it on TV... The last reason why people say they are dangerous is because of their ability to lock their jaws and stay attached to what it closes its mouth on...

Anonymous said...

they are a dangerous breed

Anonymous said...

I have 2 next door , bark a lot but so good so far .

Anonymous said...

Inherently, yes. They have been bred (and, very sadly, inbred by idiots) to be both fierce and fearsome animals, for Man's protection and (ditto the sad thought) sport. Few other breeds can compare in combined hard-wired protective nature and violent aggression. Those breeds in the US are far fewer and their breeding generally much less indiscriminate.
The breed has examples of docile lines, but the numbers are probably very small and the genetic anomaly is not to be trusted from generation to generation.

Anonymous said...

No. Nanny dogs! Only dangerous when trained to be.

Anonymous said...

11:24
Are you a registered AKC breeder or professional? Let the adults talk while you do some reading.

Anonymous said...

Chihuahuas and Yorkies still come in with zero fatalities but thousands of nipped fingers.

Anonymous said...

Not all of them. Some probably have issues right from birth, due to over breeding. Then there are some, along with other breeds, that are raised and taught to be mean by a human.

Anonymous said...

Then do your homework. Bully breeds are historically known for pulling plows and doing farm work. Not for attack or guard...

Anonymous said...

11:24 you're an idiot. Pit bulls are not wired like other dogs. They bight and don't let go. I don't believe toy poodles have killed very many people.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely! I have personally known six people attacked by pit bulls. Not just a simple bite but life altering scars. These dogs should be exterminated. Plus look at the people that own them. Not usually people that are upstanding citizens. Most of the time I see a pitbull it is with some white trash person or a black person that asked like a thug. I guarantee you most people agree with my statement even though some will argue it.

Anonymous said...

yes they are dangerous, because mankind bred this breed to kill other dogs. that's their genetic makeup. some of them are ok if they have a very strong willed, responsible owner. have to watch them very carefully all the time.

Anonymous said...


I took this question as a yes or no, as Judge Judy says. So not being that, my answer would be yes, yes, yes. In other words, I don't want to be near any dog of that bred. Gentle or not, it will someday turn on you.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Then do your homework. Bully breeds are historically known for pulling plows and doing farm work. Not for attack or guard...

April 8, 2016 at 12:18 PM"

WRONG, DOUBLE WRONG and TRIPLE WRONG! "Bully breeds" were NEVER EVER "historically" or otherwise "known for pulling plows and doing farm work."
Accept and face the fact that they were "historically known for" and bred for blood sports such as bull-baiting, bear-baiting and cock fighting. Never ever were they "historically known for pulling plows and doing farm work. As a matter of FACT NO dog breed has ever been "historically known for pulling a plow"! Farm work yes such as in the live stock guardian breeds and herding breeds but pulling plows????? NO! Maybe just maybe pit breeds were used to kill varmints such as rats, raccoons, etc around a farm but nothing else.

Anonymous said...

yes

Anonymous said...

Every German Shepard I have encountered in my life tried to bite me but never a pit bull.

Anonymous said...

This info was copied from Villalobos Rescue in New Orleans where Animal Planet's Pit Bulls and Parolees is filmed. Even the experts at Villalobos do not deny they are dangerous.


Breed’s
Original
Purpose

Humans have created very specialized dogs through emphasizing desired traits and eliminating unwanted ones. It is no different with the Pit Bull breed. The American Pit Bull Terrier has been “selectively” bred for hundreds of years to fight other dogs. This is the sad “work” these dogs were created for. In the same way that Labradors were bred to retrieve birds, APBT’s were bred to face other dogs in mortal combat. Even in dogs that are not recently bred from fighting lines, the urge to rumble can arise at any time. Not to strongly emphasize this fact is to be negligent. We would be equally negligent if we were placing Beagles and failed to educate the adopter about why the specific traits that scent oriented dogs, hunting dogs, bred to work in packs, present certain challenges to those who wish to obedience train their hound.

We can’t blame specialized breeds for behaving like they were bred to do what they do. Certain specific traits were selectively bred into the dogs and are now a part of the breed’s character. It’s like the digging instinct of many Terriers, the herding behavior in Shelties, the compulsion to run in a Greyhound, etc. Your Pointer may have never spent a day on a real “hunt”, but he may still point and flush out a bird as his ancestors were bred to do so. We don’t have to condone or glorify it, but dog aggression is not uncommon with Pit Bull type dogs. Owners must recognize and accept this fact or they won’t be able to provide competent ownership and have fun with their dogs. It’s a mistake to think the fighting gene can be easily trained or loved out of a dog. Or that early socialization will guarantee your Pit Bull will always get along with other animals. Even though PBRC does not in anyway condone animal fighting, it does acknowledge the importance of understanding the special traits of this breed and advocates education about proper and responsible Pit Bull ownership. You can have all the dog experience in the world, but it’s also essential to understand the distinctive features of the type of dog you own or work with. In this case, a dog with an important fighting background who requires extra vigilance around other pets.

Anonymous said...

No. It's a known FACT that smaller dogs bite more people than other dogs. Pit Bull's get a bad name for a few reasons. Dog fighting being one. There bites are sensationalized in the media.

Anonymous said...

No. The pits I know are babies. Use common sense and check out who is selling, how they treat them etc. The only thing with pits or rotties is they are strong. A lot different than smaller dog. (ankle biters)

Anonymous said...

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, that is a dumb question. Anyone with a brain would know they are dangerous dogs and have proven so time after time after time. This dog may be nice, but it is a dog that can't be trusted.

Anonymous said...

just like a gun only in the wrong hands!

Anonymous said...

yes, they are not good

Anonymous said...

YES

g man said...

No it's the owners Iv had 5
And have one now for u folks that say in get of it

Anonymous said...

NO! I believe if they are handled properly they are wonderful dogs. Proper training, and socialization is the key for any dog to be successful.

Greg B. said...

YES, just look up what this animal was bread for, killing a huge 1000 pound bull.

They are the choice for drug dealers to protect their cash and dope, and why? Because they attack people! Only people that are criminals, or want to be criminals own them.

It has been proven that Pitt owners defy the law. They speed, they cheat, lie, smoke, and drink, and use drugs. Physiologist did studies, that is the mentality of a Pitbull owner. They are not the average guy that obeys the laws and is a good honest person.

Anonymous said...

absolutely YES...

Anonymous said...

Yes, dangerous.

Anonymous said...

Technically, I think most dogs could be considered dangerous because of their ability to bite. As for pit bulls in particular, yes, because their can bite harder than many other dogs. But dogs are also a product of their owners. Good owner = good dog. Bad owner = bad dog.

Anonymous said...

Many family members including myself have had numerous chihuahuas for years. They never bit anyone, Only time they got upset was when a family member was attacked by a Rottweiler.

Anonymous said...

It has not been proven small dogs are aggressive.

Anonymous said...

False

Anonymous said...

Hey 9:49 if you ever heard of a chihuahua attacking children or people and killing them. I had to physically beat a Pit Bull that was attacking my chocolate lab for no reason at all and the owner was a good owner.

Anonymous said...

No.

When I was a child I was attacked and bitten by a German shepherd. Didn't like or trust dogs until I was 17 or 18. Since then I have been around and known dozens of pit bulls in my life, and never seen, known of, or heard of any incident involving aggression towards people from those dogs. It's all in the home and how they are raised from the beginning. Most of these commentors calling people idiots and morons have never been around pit bulls in their life. But, people are going to believe whatever it is they want to believe.

And it's spelled bred, people. Not bread.

Anonymous said...

Yes, absolutely.

Anonymous said...

No. I have never been around a aggressive " pit bull" I have been around other aggressive dogs.

Anonymous said...

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/the-3-most-aggressive-dog-breeds-may-surprise-you.html

Anonymous said...

OMG - you just can't fix stupid people. Any dog can bite. Any dog can be born wired wrong. Any dog can be RAISED wrong. I lay ALL the blame at the feet of HUMANS who bred them to fight, overbred them, inbred them, and who train them to fight. I blame the media for perpetuating the myth that ALL pitties are dangerous. Yes, their musculature is intimidating. But so are other breeds like Danes. Never believe that there is a breed of dog that just won't bite. They did not ask to be bred that way or born that way. Yet you cry for ALL of them to be killed by banning them so they end up in shelters. How about you focus on the humans who run the puppy mills and breeders that continue to add to the population for the almighty dollar? How about you become aware of and active in busting dogfighting rings? Be a part of a fair solution or shut up.

Anonymous said...

Yes and no. Have met some very sweet and loving pit bulls raised in loving homes and have encountered very aggressive pit bulls that should not have any interaction with people. Same can be said Dobermans and German Shepards.

yes said...

YES, From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 ....

Anonymous said...

yes ,I love that comment about Chihuahuas more apt to bite , I just had to laugh . The question was dangerous , would you rather have a bite from a pit , I don't think so . Pits are inherently dangerous and are very unpredictable , just like the weather .

Anonymous said...

Like children, animals are a product of their environments.

Anonymous said...

As a EMT for many years in Milwaukee, I saw hundreds of children bitten by dogs, 99% of the time it was a pittbull. These dogs are like having an cup of gas sitting out on the table, safe till ignited.

Anonymous said...

American bulldogs aren't much better - don't trust em

Anonymous said...

1152 researched Milwaukee and you are lying.

Anonymous said...

310 complety false. Check the source of your stats. Or huffington post article.

Anonymous said...

I have owned pit bulls my whole life. I have been attacked three times by dogs.

Two German Sheppard's and one black Lab.

None of my dogs have ever attacked another person or animal. A few pillows and shoes have succumbed from their behavior however.;)

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Like children, animals are a product of their environments.

April 9, 2016 at 8:35 AM"

And children just like dogs are a product of inherent traits also. To even suggest that dogs are just merely a product of their environments shows you completely lack any knowledge concerning genetics and you are the type of person who would make a horrible pet owner.

Anonymous said...

9:54 there is no such thing as a dog being "wired wrong." Dogs have inherent traits. It can NOT be bred out of a breed and it can rear it's head at any time regardless of how a dog was treated. Of course it doesn't help if an owner mistreats a dog. Most dogs regardless of breed, if mistreated don't get aggressive they get overly passive. They get submissive and cower.
Very few of the pits involved in attacks were bred to fight or even come from recent fighting lines. Dogs fighting rings are very few and far between and were never a very real problem just merely an excuse for pit owners to use when a dog does attack.
If you are truly concerned about their well being you would be pushing for breed specific legislation which would include spay/neuter and registering of all pits. 10's of 1000's are euthanized in shelters a year and it has nothing to do with then being banned. Pit owners and lovers make me sick. If you love the breed you would be screaming for legislation.
When the Disney dalmatian movie came out dalmatians were being over bred and many ended up in shelters. Dalmatian owners who are obviously more responsible than you so called Pit lovers became very vocal nationwide calling for a ban on dalmatian breeding and it worked.

Anonymous said...

1104 stop morning drinking and by a treadmill.

Anonymous said...

Hell yes! My peekapoo has never bit anyone.

Anonymous said...

11:04 what other breed bites and does not let go. When you lose a grandchild from one of these animals they bite and won't let go until someone knocks them in the head or their prey is dead you will have a different outlook. Not all, but it seems that most pit owners have no retirement plans or savings, smokes, tattoos, girlfriend on government assistance and so on. I'm sure there is a few exceptions. I know quit a few however some are gone on heroin overdoses. If you don't want believe the statistics you may get a chance to change your mind someday. Wake up.

Anonymous said...

In the 11-year period of 2005 through 2015, canines killed 360 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 64% (232) of these deaths. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. Goverment web site. Look it up. dogbite.org Yes they are not "wired" like other dogs

Anonymous said...

My poodle alerts me when someone is at the door or in my house. Smith & Wesson not a pit will determine if the live or die.

Anonymous said...

web site " Dogbite.org " (some doge don't let go) In the 11-year period of 2005 through 2015, canines killed 360 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 64% (232) of these deaths. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers 34 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2015. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 82% (28) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (28) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 91% of the total recorded deaths in 2015. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 11-year period of 2005 to 2015.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 11-year period. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 41, about one citizen every 98 days.
In the year of 2015, the combination of pit bulls (28), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (3) contributed to 97% (33) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog fatalities occurred in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
Annual data from 2015 shows that 41% (14) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger, and 59% (20) were adults, ages 22-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2015, 65% (13) were ages 60-years and older.
Annual data shows that when combining all age groups, male victims (20) were greater in number than female victims (14). Amongst children ages 9-years and younger, males were excessively victims 79% (11), versus females 21% (3).
In 2015, nearly one third, 32% (11), of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred. Children ages 9-years and younger accounted for 82% (9) of these deaths.
50% (17) of all fatalities in 2015 involved more than one dog; 15% (5) involved a pack attack of four or more dogs; 21% (7) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past and 6% (2) involved tethered dogs.
In 2015, 9% (3) of all fatal attacks were inflicted by dogs rehomed by shelters or rescues. County operated shelters in Buncombe County, North Carolina and Madison County, Tennessee each adopted out a dog that fatally attacked a

Anonymous said...

10:47 I have owned pit bulls my whole life. // What are you 21 now? Dog expert? When you were 1 day old you owned a pit bull? Makes the rest of your story seem so creditable. Did you register your dog on day 1 ?

Anonymous said...

358 I'm not going to cut and paste the article from Huffington Post but I will say it totally debunks this article.

Anonymous said...

Pit bulls are the best dog. Thanks.

JoeAlbero said...

4:37, This article is a poll question and suggests nothing. It simply asks what people think.