So, I'm driving to my office to turn in my weekly paperwork. A headlight is out. I see a Tucson Police Department squad...
Posted by Steven Hildreth, Jr. on Tuesday, October 27, 2015
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16 comments:
The officer DOES NOT need to disarm the motorist any more than the motorist needs to disarm the cop.
Probably would not have 2 years ago but to many le being shot. It's a war now. Sad.
It's a discretion call by the officer and is in his right to do so for the safety of ALL. Learn before you speak.
Troll alert
Only because he didn't give them any lip.
A "discretion" call?
BS.
A typical "I'm so scared" reaction.
An honest citizen (you think he got his concealed carry permit from a lottery??) is still a "threat"??
The government (likely the police themselves), has said this guy is A-OK and the police have to DISARM him before they can fell "safe"??
Even citizens who follow the law and pass the rigorous background checks are a threat to people with guns of their own????
Afraid of everything. Good thing the sun didn't go behind a cloud....the shadows might have gotten the guy killed.
Justifiably, of course.
"the police have to DISARM him before they can fell "safe"??" Did you even read the damn article? Do you expect the cop to just take his word for the CC permit? Don't know what hole you live in, but there are a lot of nuts out there. The cops were cool. The guy stopped was cool. His words - "I'd like to thank the TPD and their officers for their consistent professionalism, courtesy, and the good work that they do". Enough crap in this world without drama queens making something out of nothing.
942.... Thanks for the warning that your here.
And we have a right to fight against a tyrant cop. To the death at that. Can't do that when disarmed.
I love it when Joe blow bad ass assume the cop was scared. I hope he was. Anyone who isn't in this day is fool. At night when and if I get pulled over the interior light goes on. I give the officer evert courtesy for his and my safety.
I'd rather have a scared cop the a bad ass keyboard specialist.
You all should click on the mans name and go to his profile page. On October 29th he exaplained why they took the gun and how it was legal to do so.
I'm white and had a headlight out. I was polite and had everything else, license reg etc. I got an inspection ticket and had to reprove my insurance even after showing my valid current ins. card. And by the way my light had just burned out and I bought a new headlight and was on my way home to change it. Showed the officer the Light bulb, didn't make any difference to her. Maybe if I was black I would of received a verbal warning.
Anon 9:40 AM
Are you deaf, dumb or stupid???? IF you are a conceal permit holder, you go thought more background checks than cops do these days, and if you are a threat, period, they will not give you one...
the cop does not need to disarm this man, if he wanted to harm the cop anyway, he would have done it once the cop stuck is face in the car... The cops only do this to give you a hard time, to make you not want to carry or have a gun... They do it to open carry people too. Like I said, you have to take rights from one person to allow another to have theirs, case in point open carry, it is not illegal is most states, and if someone calls in on you, they come and stop you because one lonely citizen was cared... So the one who is scared gets her rights and the one who is legally carrying does not get his rights...
LEARN BEFORE YOU SPEAK
Kudos to you young man and to the police officer as well! Mutual respect for BOTH lives, the officer's profession and the vehicle operator's ethnicity. They both did the right thing - the vehicle operator disclosed the information regarding his firearm in a calm manner AND he understood that the officer had a job to do in order to protect himself. Not all people toting a gun are bad, nor are they all good. BOTH sides cooperated with each other OUT OF RESPECT and both went home safely to their families that night. This is how guns work in society and more importantly, this is how we all work together in society; regardless of race, occupation, age, etc.
A similar thing happened to me one day. I was driving home from spending the afternoon target shooting. When we go shooting, WE GO SHOOTING! I had almost every modern firearm I own in my truck: Beretta 96, Beretta PX4, Sig P238, Taurus Judge, Kimber 1911, Glock 23, S&W 460 XVR, Ruger LCP, Ruger MK3, Bushmaster AR15, Remington 700 VTR 308, Remington 870 and H&R 12ga. Plus thousands of rounds of ammo and spent casings from that day (I reload my ammo). I got pulled over for speeding on Line Rd. Before the officer even got out of his car, I turned off my truck, rolled down windows and placed BOTH hands on the window sill so that the officer could clearly see them. I noticed that he saw this and was somewhat uncomfortable walking up to my door. He had his hand covering his service weapon which was already unsecured in its holster. As he approached my door, before he spoke, I said "I know I was speeding, but you should know that I am heading home after shooting targets. I have exactly 13 firearms in my truck. The firearms are unloaded in the back seat. The magazines and ammo are locked in the tool box in the bed of my truck." He literally said, "DAMN! 13 guns, really?!" And chuckled as he told me to step out of the truck. Obviously, I obliged. He proceeded to pull the guns out and placed them on the tailgate of my truck. He asked me if all the guns were registered to me and I told him that all of them were except for my VTR which was a Christmas present and still registered to my father. In completing his due diligence, he told me that he was going to run the numbers on a few of the firearms so he ran the serials on my Glock, 96, PX4 and VTR. I'm not sure why he only ran those 4 but I suppose those are the more commonly stolen firearms and I told him that the VTR wasn't registered to me.
After everything came back clear we stood at the tailgate of my truck and he began to scope out my little collection. He had several of the same guns himself so we talked about what we liked and disliked about each. Then went on to talk about reloading ammo. We probably chatted for about a half hour on the side of the road and then he said "well, I pulled you over for a reason... I'll be right back." He came back with a warning for speeding and said, "I've only been a trooper for 2 years now and I don't give out warnings, but this is the first time that I have been in a situation with a motorist carrying a gun, must less a small arsenal." I chuckled... He continued, "We can laugh about it now, but my wife is terrified of my job and stops like this can go completely different. I really appreciate what you did for me."
I'll NEVER forget that day and the exact words he spoke. We both went home to our families that night and had a story to tell about good humans respecting each other in a situation that can end terrible. Also note that I said that I could see how uncomfortable he was as he approached my door. He could see my hands, he clearly knew I was a white male and I did everything right, yet he still showed signs of being uncomfortable-so I wouldn't say that being "not black" made him any more comfortable. Now imagine if I didn't do all those things and then he sees the guns-I would likely be looking down the barrel of a .40 cal pistol as he is yelling at me to get out of the truck. Now tensions are high, people don't always make the best decisions under pressure and one false move could put a slug in my chest...All because I wasn't being a responsible gun owner with respect for the law. Then what happens? Everybody starts calling him a murderer, he loses his job and goes to prison for shooting an innocent man. All of that was possibly avoided because we BOTH did the right thing.
I also have to give credit to the DNR Hunter Safety course. I can't recall the instructor's name, but he is a really tall older bald guy that took the time to inform the class on how to properly act when pulled over with a firearm in a vehicle AND how to appropriately transport firearms. Firearm safety and education goes far beyond the home and field.
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