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Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Today's Survey Question 12-12-12

Is the US tough enough on criminal sentencing?

16 comments:

Alex said...

Too tough on drug offenses. Legalize drugs and tax it.

Anonymous said...

Evidently not. If the consequences were harder folks would stop acting like they were owed something that didn't belong to them whether it's material possessions or a life. Make examples and carry through and robbery, killings and such would stop.
Other countries don't tolerate these acts, why do you think so many of them are in America? They know they can get away with things here that would not happen in their native country.

Alex said...

Yeah 11:25 let's start stoning people or maybe public beheadings?

Anonymous said...

Yes, and no.

Drug offenses are too tough. Spain cut down their drug-related prisoners by treating it as a social health problem. Their drug incarcerations were cut in half with this approach, and addiction rates went down.

There seems to be a big problem where there are private prisons. Corporate interests lobby the government and incarceration rates seem to go up dramatically via tougher laws once this industry arrives.

Banking fraud is rarely if ever prosecuted. John Corzine loses billions of dollars. We know it ends up at JP Morgan Chase. No prosecutions.

Plenty of banks were caught robosigning foreclosures. People lost their house without due process. Plenty of banks sold non-suitable mortgages to Fannie and Freddy. No large-scale prosecutions of individuals who engaged in obvious fraud.

HSBC and Wells Fargo laundered more than a billion dollars for iran, drug dealers, and others. No individuals were prosecuted.

Maybe it's a prosecution problem more than a sentencing problem. But the effect is that the punishment doesn't fit the crime because there is no personal responsibility.

Anonymous said...

Someone needs to come up with a much better idea for the system than incarceration and warehousing. We've been doing it since before all of recorded time, and after all that time it just doesn't work very well to rehabilitate while it punishes and removes offenders from the general public.

Anonymous said...

Privatizing prison means they must keep their numbers up to produce a profit for the man.

Anonymous said...

no. TV's College education,weight rooms'computers. Give them a blanket food and toilet.

Anonymous said...

If someone really wants to do something, nothing will deter them, doesn't matter the consequence.

Anonymous said...

No, we are not.

Death penalty for murder, rape, child sexual assaults, and drug dealing should be mandatory. One strike, you are dead. One year for an appeal, then it is the needle.

Also on drug use you should get rehab once, then hard prison time (no tv or cable, minimal health insurance and no perks, only hard labor. Third offense, death penalty for you to.


On ILLEGAl immigrants should be first offense deported. Second offense 5 yrs hard prison time as above. Third offense death penalty since you are here illegally and you dont offically exist.

Anonymous said...

not when it involves the criminals we elect.

Anonymous said...

Alex said...
Yeah 11:25 let's start stoning people or maybe public beheadings?

December 12, 2012 11:31 AM

Sounds like a plan to me you liberal moron. Those muslims you love and defend do this in their country!

Anonymous said...

This sort of reverts back to the post regarding the US having the largest per capita prison population.On the surface the sentencing does not seem tough enough,but the percentages say otherwise.Anything more stringent would involve building more prisons.

Anonymous said...

What do long sentences do in the long run? Make one harder and more criminal or thankful when they get out and never want to go back?

Granted, some people never should see the light of day outside prison for their crimes, such as the dr. from De. and others.

This country has over 2 million in prison. We are in first place with China being in second.

You would think we would be crime free if deterrents worked.

Anonymous said...

nope.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
What do long sentences do in the long run? Make one harder and more criminal or thankful when they get out and never want to go back?

Granted, some people never should see the light of day outside prison for their crimes, such as the dr. from De. and others.

This country has over 2 million in prison. We are in first place with China being in second.

You would think we would be crime free if deterrents worked.

December 12, 2012 7:01 PM

Deterrents do work if there is such a thing in this country. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. When you see people walking around with nubs you will think twice about shoplifting. When you see males squatting to pee you will think twice about rape. When you see public hangings you will think twice about murdering someone. Eliminate the criminals and you have no crime.

Anonymous said...

Deterrents do work if there is such a thing in this country. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. When you see people walking around with nubs you will think twice about shoplifting. When you see males squatting to pee you will think twice about rape. When you see public hangings you will think twice about murdering someone. Eliminate the criminals and you have no crime.

December 12, 2012 10:49 PM

Evidently deterrents DO NOT work, if there is such a thing, (lol), because we still have crime.

You see someone with nubs and what do you think? Stupid fool got caught and had his hands cut off. That won't happen to me because I am smarter, faster, connected, etc.

People don't commit crimes thinking they will get caught. Or what might happen to them IF they get caught.

And getting rid of criminals will not rid us of criminals.

We might be able to control the population of criminals somewhat but we will always have criminals as long as we have laws, and/or people with no or poor morals.

To be rid of criminals you have to start at the beginning of when they start becoming criminals. Not after they have become criminals.

Education, positive role models, economic incentives, job training, life training, compassion, love, patience and tolerance are a few items required.

But where is the fun in all that?

It takes too long and requires effort.

There are truly some that cannot be helped. These are the ones who need prison and society needs them in prison.

Not necessarily one size fits all. Gandhi once said, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Look at the middle east for that example. That war will not end until the world does.

What I have described is but one way that might curb the construction of criminals. I am not so naive to think that there are others.

But it does not address the criminals that we already have, in the streets or in prisons.

These would have to be rehabilitated, imprisoned or eliminated.

I talk too much and I'm going to bed.