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Monday, November 17, 2008

How Many of You Can Pass the Test?

By now, most of you have heard about the President Elects unconventional questionnaire that is to accompany your resume should you be applying for a job with the new administration.

Questions such as:
# (59) Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used or whether it has been the cause of any personal injury or property damage.
or
# (14) Diaries: If you keep or have ever kept a diary that could suggest a conflict of interest or be a possible source of embarrassment to you, your family or the President Elect, if it were made public, please describe.
or
# (10) Writings: Please list, and if readily available a copy of each book, article, column, or publication (including but not limited to any posts, or comments on blogs or other websites) you have authored individually or with others. Please list all of your aliases or 'handles' you have used to communicate on the internet.

Not to mention the questions that want you to list all debt that you or your spousce have incurred with all of your lines of credit including but not limited to all real estate that you may own.
For further review please see http://www.isra-pvf.com/obamaquestionnaire.pdf .
I would be really interested to see how many of you would be willing to provide the requested information to obtain a job with the new administration.
Please understand, while I certainly realize that many of these questions are important for national security, it has become clear that in order for run for the office of President, one is not vetted nearly so closely. As has become apparent with Mr. Ayers and Rev. Wright, the President Elect did not answer any such questions.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry the alleged Ayers thing has been answered. The supposed Wright thing requires no answer.

It is time to move on.

Anonymous said...

Wymzie,

It is BECAUSE of people like you banging this Ayers/Wright thing that the new administration has to vet everyone so closely. You guys will latch onto any little tiny detail and blow it out of proportion for purely political reasons.

Therefore, we now have these kinds of questionnaires, to make sure that everyone who gets a job is squeaky clean and won't become fodder for the radical right-wing echo chamber that you and your ilk have created.

Speaking of Ayers, I still find it odd that none of you put Governor SECESSIONIST Sarah through the same level of scrutiny. Actually, I don't find it odd, I find it HYPOCRITICALLY TRANSPARENT.

Anonymous said...

Move on? Why would anyone want to move on when you know it's not the direction you want to go. That's just like saying go ahead and jump, it won't hurt. Yeah, right.

Anonymous said...

This is almost the same questionaire you would get if you were trying to fix the Presiden'ts helicopters at HMX-1. The background check goes back to your old neighborhood and talks to your elementary school friends or teachers asking about character and incidents. It's another thing if they mention something you didn't (because after 10-15 yrs stuff gets forgotten). The last time I went thru one of these things it was 1994. They also wanted to know if you had information that would be useful for blackmail type situations. I think military people are generally younger than politicians so they may only go back a certain number of years. This isn't anything new, and it's true, Obama was not properly vetted by any means. Especially when you scroll down and have to list any memberships, groups, etc that may be an embarrasment. LOL!
Sarah Palin's vetting was way harsher than Obama's non-vetting. Except for liberal fawning and flirting on the view, name one tough interview.

Wymzie said...

Thats why Ayers wasn't interviewed until after the election right?
Then he said that Obama was a 'Family friend' not just a 'guy that lives in my neighborhood' as Obama stated.
Wright...Black Liberation Theology
How many people go to a church for 20 years and don't agree with the teachings of the preacher?

Give me a break! This is rediculous and you are allowing your liberal bliss to blind you from the facts.

Little details they are not. One is known by the company that they keep and these associations are quite interesting aren't they.

I'm sure you guys were all over Bush with his friendship with the Saudi Royal Family, or his cocaine use in the 80's, but what about the President Elects admitted use?

Anonymous said...

OH MY GOD
Are you saying that Senator McCain did an adequate job "vetting" Palin? You see things from such a narrow point of view. Spend a little time considering your side and your choices for a change. And remember that "he who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones".

Anonymous said...

Wymzie

You still have offered nothing but opinion. There is no proof to anything you have said.

Black Liberation Theology? Can you explain what is wrong with that church. I've heard racist, but no evidence exist. What is supposedly wrong with that church?

Anonymous said...

Thanks to you morons who voted for this unexperienced hack. It was only because of your charitable white guilt. How dare questions be asked about Reverend Wrong and Bill stench riddled ayers. Those things should have mattered to you voters. I don't believe most of you idiots voted along the issues. Its just your liberal bias that you picked up from CNN. How can 95% of americans receive tax cuts when a third of americans pay no taxes already. And also contradictory , Biden saying paying higher taxes is "patriotic." I hope it hits you guilty liberals right in your pockets just so you will know "patriotism" is. Finally, if you like a socialistic health care program to solve the crisis of the uninsured, move to Canada and pay 20% sales tax on every purchase. There is always a catch that you won't see on CNN. I don't have health insurance myself, so shove that down your piewhole O'biden voters.

Anonymous said...

Still haven't answered my question, Wymzie...

If 'associations' were so important, why haven't I seen you talking about the fact that Todd Palin belonged to a SECESSIONIST group who was headed by a man killed in an explosives deal gone bad. Huh? What? Nothing? Of course not, because you are hypocrites.

And, give me a break about 'vetting Sarah Palin'. She didn't do ONE PRESS CONFERENCE her entire time as the nominee. It wasn't until last week at the RGA convention when she answered a grand total of 4 questions.

You right wing radicals are insane, hypocritical, and insultingly dumb. Before you keep up with this ridiculous 'associations' argument, why don't you do some housecleaning?

Anonymous said...

1:31,

Until you talk about Sarah Palin's associations to a known Secessionist organization, don't talk about Bill Ayers ever again.

Your right-wing hypocrisy is transparent until you address her 'associations'

Anonymous said...

Concerning Joe Biden's "Patriotic" Taxpaying: Does this mean that the Founding Father's were unpatriotic for revolting over taxation. I know "Taxation Without Representation" was the reason. Question: Is Taxation WITH MISrepresentation patriotic or would our Founding Father's find that revolting?

Anonymous said...

2:03,

Of course they would be appalled. The majority of voters decided on whom they wanted to be President on Nov. 4th, and that is called "Representation". Or are you one of those 'good-weather' patriots that only loves their country when THEIR party is in power?

Anonymous said...

1: 59,

Fair enough about Palin, I think she was not a good choice as well. Would it have been ok for McCain to sit in a church for 20 years listening to an obviously racist head of church? "G D America?" Although I don't believe Obama is racist himself, but I'm sure he could have found somewhere else for him and his family to worship.

Anonymous said...

2:30,

Classy language. I think what you suggested should be done to you.

Anonymous said...

One of the most dangerous associations Obama has is with Odinga, radical islamist who butchered thousands of Christians in Kenya when he lost an election, and election that Obama helped campaign with him on the taxpayer dime . Why this was never mentioned ?

Anonymous said...

2:54,

It would have been just as irrelevant for John McCain as it is for Barack Obama.

This whole Rev. Wright/Bill Ayers crap is the reason why the right-wing radicals lost this election:

NOBODY CARES ABOUT IRRELEVANT 'ASSOCIATIONS'.

Besides, everyone saw through the hypocrisy as the radical right-wing said NOTHING about their darling, Sarah Palin, being associated with the AIP and giving speeches to their conventions.

Anonymous said...

2:54,

I agreed about Palin. Learn how to read before you retort. I'm so sure nothing would have been said if McCain was in a racist church, come on now. You know there would have been even more of a fuss. Keep living in your world of double standards. Maybe just one day your "chickens will come home to roost."

Anonymous said...

3:07,

That's never mentioned because it's a made up right-wing smear that you people won't let go of... regardless of the facts.

You are grasping at straws and you never had a cohesive message. That's why you lost.

Try this: in 2012, instead of lying about your opponent, try giving everyone a reason to vote for YOURS, instead.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:07 PM

Because there was no assocaition. It is another made up story.

Anon 3:32 PM

Nothing about Rev. Wright church is/was racist. That is another made up story. You repeat but can't prove it.

Anonymous said...

All right here we go!!. I am sure the fur will fly after this one. I will protect this new President with my last dying breath. That is what all Americans should be willing to. This blind patriotism if you will is what has made this country so strong. I did not vote for Obama. I did not like voting for mc cain but out of the two he was i felt the best person for the job. As a 30 year republican I voted for three democrats in those last 30. Kratovil being the most recent. If anyobe can state on this Blog that Wright is not a pure and dangerous racist I have some ocean front property in Bivale I want to sell you. Obama is what one would call a victim of a biracial marriege. I am not saying this to offend. I have had many and still do have biracial friends. They grow up in a world feeling they are truly not part of either race. As small children they can be ridaculed by both sides. In a free society with open speech and religion that person would gravitate to what make he or she feel stronger or better about themselves. Hence Rev. Wrights poison. To the person who contiually ask how can we call Wright a racist you have to be blind,def, dumb, and a racist yourself if you can not hear his message. Anti-American as well. i am sure God will have a few questions for Rev. Wright as well. Like did he did to make hundreds of thousands of dollars to spew his poison. The message made many that felt betrayed stonger and someone was hering thier pain. Now open the wallet drop it in. Should a true man of God Drive Licolns. Have a driver?? Hmmm. My Pastor never arrived in a limo. Did not have two pound gold ropes around his neck. Then you have the Priest that was caucasion come in and call "Whitey" scared. Whitey made the problem. Watch the video with an open mind Wymzie. That was not doctored. I saw enough to know even with basic common sense anyone attending that church is not going to have my white ass over for dinner. Unless i was the main course. I do love this country so no God please dont damn us. Spoken in plain english by Wright. I guess Wright and I will have a table for two in Hell. I feel as strongly about lazy, free loading americans as Wright does about "THE Man". 60 % of Obamas vote was made between 11-4. That is when the majority got out of bed and went to the polls. Some of us worked that day!!!!! oooops I did not wont to go down that road. I am misunderstood. It was not meant to offend. You omly read part of the comment. How does it feel ?? That is how i felt when I heard Wrights message you can wash the mud off of the pig, but it is still a pig no matter how hard you scrub. Oh sorry if any pigs are reading this Blog today. No offense

Anonymous said...

Sarah Palin-mayor, banned books-No
pregnant daughter-Yes
didn't want to pay for rape kits-No
councilman-yes
Oil commission-Yes
Trig's grandma-No
spent $150k on clothes-No
husband member of secessionist party-Yes
member of Republican party-Yes
mother of 5-Yes
6 years to get thru college-Yes
friends who are terrorists-0
attended kooky church-yes
blessed against witchcraft-yes
Should I go on, they dug up everything on Sarah Palin for 2 months and after 2 years running for Prez, you think we would know Obama's family friends. Who paid for his college, who helped, blah blah blah...
Anons 1:57pm and 3:16pm
Obama is your guy and you're the one getting angry over associations

Anonymous said...

3:32,

I never said "nothing would be said", I said it would have been IRRELEVANT. However, because you keep bringing up Wright, and saying "What if it had happened to John McCain?". Well, it DID happen to John McCain. Go look up Rev. Hagee and Rev. Parsley. McCain referred to Hagee as his "spiritual advisor", and this is a guy who called the Catholic Church a "great whore." Parsley is even worse.

And don't even get me started on Charles Keating or G. Gordon Liddy. Both of whom are convicted FELONS and close friends of John McCain.

So, like I've said countless times before: If you radical right-wing extremists want to play the 'associations' card, we can do that. But you will LOSE. I would prefer that we talk about the issues, but, if you want, I can keep bringing up 'associations' about McCain.

Wanna keep this BS going, or do you want to debate substantive stuff? It's your call. But, I doubt you people will change.. you've never shown an aptitude for civility or rational thought.

Anonymous said...

Wright is a pure racist using God's word to twist his venom to weak minded people just like you. Joe get Wrights reported income. In the church of cash I am sure he took many a dollar from the poor Black man. That whitey kicked around so hard. Who knew he was creating the next President as young Obama sat and listened to the message he had to be affeted or at the very least agreeable to what he was hearing. Wymzie I cant see if you are caucasion or a "Whitey" you would think this is blown out of proportion. You are the exact demographic Obama's team targeted. Whtie women between 19-46. Just tell me if you fit that profile. It is a known fact he was counting in a major way on those demographics. Ellen and Oprah made sure of that. Kanye West said it best. " Then you get on and he leaves your ass for a white girl". Quoted from the song Gold Digger that lyric is another typical feeling in that community. Mr. West does not care much for the white folk either yet he is a multi millioaire. Mostly young whites 15-26 by rap and gansta rap. It is very deep indeed. This election was over eight years ago. Thats is why the Bush croanies got what they could this time and got paid big. The American people have been soldout all the way around we just dont see it yet. I am sure we are all feeling it. The people of America all colors need to heal and look to the future to make sweeping politcal change. We all got so caught up in the racial hype we forgot we got robbed by this current adminastration. Trust me they did not care what color you are. They just wanted your bucks. The Bail Out is one of the biggest financial crimes of the century. The fear they put into America allowed that to happen. Well now that I am truly drepressed I will go and eat some freedom frys remember those LOL. DRINK A BIG GLASS OF SHUT THE HELL UP. Then I need to find a cause so that I can run for president in 4. My campaign slogon will be "Broke ass americans who need a real break" I just hope they dont catch my preacher saying I am rich on T.V. I would use my real name but it might givaway who I am. Smile it really isnt that bad.

Anonymous said...

4:57,

Wrong. I didn't bring up 'associations' You and your ilk did. We know how Obama paid for college (student loans) and we know who his family and friends are. Unless you have information to the contrary? No, you don't. You have right wing fear and conjecture. You have baseless accusations. You have the same rabid-right-wing-extremist BS you've been pushing this whole election... without a scintilla of evidence to support it.

And don't even pretend like the press spent the same amount of time on Sarah Palin's ties to the AIP like they did on Bill Ayers. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. They tried to DESTROY Obama over Ayers and Wright... wow, Wright... they spent SIX STRAIGHT WEEKS on Wright. You're either ridiculously retarded or willfully ignorant if you disagree with that.

The point of the matter is simple: We can talk issues, or we can talk about BS 'associations' that your a-holes think will benefit you politically. Well, think again... Todd Palin belonged to a SECESSIONIST organization whose founder was killed in an explosives deal gone bad. Your Presidential nominee 'palled around' with G. Gordon Liddy and Charles Keating, CONVICTED FELONS.

So, by all means, keep up the baseless attacks and smears... we've got a LITTANY of them in store for you a-holes, as well.

Or, you can do the right thing and talk issues. Can you do that? I bet you can't. Please prove me wrong. Your move.

Anonymous said...

Who controls the media
Who controls the money

Anonymous said...

5:59,

Don't forget Freddy Mac board member,.... Rahm Emmanuel

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:57 PM

I asked twice for you to prove that Rev Wright was racist. You failed to do it. And wouldn’t even answer the question other to say I was “blind, def, dumb, and a racist…“. Shouldn’t it be easy if it were true?

Anon 5:34 PM

You don’t explain either how Wright is a racist.

Did you ever think that the reason was that neither of you can prove he’s a racist? Keep trying it is sort of cute.

And sad.

Anonymous said...

Why don't all of you unhappy ass-holes on the right and left, just break out the guns and have at each other. Get it over with so the rest of us can get on with our lives without having to listen to your shit! If you don't like who is in office now, than get off your sorry asses and elect someone else in 2012.

Anonymous said...

I am more than convinced after reading these responses than ever that all voters should have to take a literacy test to be allowed to vote,and I assure you Obama would have been defeated soundly.

Anonymous

Anonymous said...

Man's game bitch

Anonymous said...

A lot of Orangutangs

Anonymous said...

8:16,

Are you kidding? It's a fact that the majority of college educated voters swung for Obama, while undereducated people voted for McCain.

Your analysis doesn't hold up to any scrutiny, and allow me to copy and paste some of the comments from the anti-Obama folks in this very thread:

"Give me a break! This is rediculous and you are allowing your liberal bliss to blind you from the facts."

poor spelling... which is common for Wymzie

"How can 95% of americans receive tax cuts when a third of americans pay no taxes already."

False point that doesn't address the fact that Obama was talking about 95% of TAX-PAYING citizens. So, literacy is lost on that guy.

"Finally, if you like a socialistic health care program to solve the crisis of the uninsured, move to Canada and pay 20% sales tax on every purchase."

Canadians don't pay 20% sales tax, so this guy obviously failed the literacy test when he tried to read up on Canada.

"I don't have health insurance myself, so shove that down your piewhole O'biden voters."

Is that a WHOLE PIE?

"One of the most dangerous associations Obama has is with Odinga, radical islamist who butchered thousands of Christians in Kenya when he lost an election, and election that Obama helped campaign with him on the taxpayer dime"

Demonstrably false statement. So, he failed the 'literacy test', too. Or maybe that one is just a simple logic test. Either way: FAIL.

"That whitey kicked around so hard."

That's an incomplete sentence.

"As small children they can be ridaculed by both side"

Yep... "ridaculed"

"The message made many that felt betrayed stonger and someone was hering thier pain"

Anyway... I could go on and on, but you get the point: Your 'literacy test' would have given Obama an even LARGER margin than he got.

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:02, just a quick note, Anon 4:57 didn't mention Rev. Wright, it was about Sarah Palin and how the media went into everything she did trying to find some dirt, and even inventing some (baby Trig's grandma). If you can't see Rev. Wright is a racist, you have a real problem. He preaches that the US gov't gave black men AIDS and syphillis. He's very anti-white, he damns America, and the website gives homage to his home country-Africa. Yeah, yeah, Africa is not a country, but ol' whitey can't tell that to the good Rev. Wright. He uses the word "whitey" alot. You can be blind to the obvious but the truth is still truth.

Anonymous said...

Being part of a secessionist party is not illegal, not does it mean that you are not patriotic. Dissention is the greatest form of patriotism in most cases. You can associate Sarah Palin with the secessionist but she was never a member and they don't have her attending more than a meeting or two and in her capacity and in an official capacity.

Anonymous said...

12:05,

Oh really? Well Bill Ayers was acquitted of all charges, and Barack Obama never was involved in any of them to begin with...

...but that doesn't stop people like you from trying to draw associations, does it?

How about a quote from the founder of the AIP?

"The fires of hell are an iceberg compared to my hatred of the United States."

Hmmm, and Todd Palin was a member of that party. And Sarah gave at least two speeches to them.

And, yes, Secession IS illegal in this country... go ask the CSA.

So, if you want to make arguments about 'associations', your VP candidate was married to a SECESSIONIST and attended their meetings.

Anonymous said...

11:57,

The U.S. government DID give syphilis to some black men. Go look up the Tuskeegee Experiments. If you are ignorant of the issues, that's fine, but don't try to smear Rev. Wright when he is correct and you are not.

Anonymous said...

11:57,

Show one instance where he used the term "whitey", please.

Anonymous said...

we got what we got. I take comfort just in knowing I won't have to go down alone.....Aint it grand. Only in America can a " NOBODY " become President. HAHAHAHAHAAA

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:02-I can't find one instance of "whitey", but I know I've heard it.
Try this as anti-racist though-
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788

Jesus is black. Merging Marxism with Christian Gospel may show the way to a better tomorrow. The white church in America is the Antichrist because it supported slavery and segregation.
Those are some of the more provocative doctrines that animate the theology at the core of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Barack Obama's church.
Obama's speech Tuesday on race in
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html

When I think of the goodness of Jesus, I use my memory. He set me free to use my mind. Say mind [mind]. He set me free to use my memory. Say memory [memory]. And then he set me free to use my mouth [applause]. That's what Pastor Moss was talking about earlier. I got to tell somebody what the Lord has done for my people. I'm gonna use my mouth. Listen to me and listen carefully, neither Hillary, Hannity, nor Hobbes ever had a grandparent in slavery or on a slave ship beneath the decks, never had a grandparent in a slave dungeon on the coast of west Africa as a prisoner. That's my people's story and if you think I'm gonna stop telling it, you got another damn thing coming! He set me freeeee to use my mouth!
But that ain't all y'all. I'm almost through--tell your neighbor, He's almost through, he's almost through.
He set me free to be me. I can't be a colored coon on the faculty at Vanderbilt with no sense of pride. And I can't be a Supreme Court judge called long dong silver who disrespects black women and himself. I got to be me. I can't be a lyin' five-star general who leads an entire nation into war on a lie. And I can't be a sec of state who goes shopping on Broadway while folks are drowning in New Orleans--I got to be me.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4808fe74-023d-417b-8537-33763c33e399

He has spoken forcefully and openly about problems in his city, his country and the world. He has spoken against U.S. involvement in Iraq and for divestment in South Africa. He pushes for African- American churches to use music traditional to black culture, rather than what he calls Euro-centric hymns.

The most widely quoted and most controversial was a 2003 sermon in which he condemned America for mistreatment of its black citizens and for racism. His quote: "Not 'God bless America,' 'God damn America,'" he said. "God damn America for treating its citizens as less than human."

In another sermon, he accused American policymakers of being under the sway of the Ku Klux Klan -- the U.S. of KKK A., he said.

...Sounds racist to me, he definitley sees the differences between people. Obama condemned most of what he said and treats him like an uncle who likes to say stuff that you just don't want to hear. That's should be enough for you, but not for a conservative like me. Ironic isn't it.

Well, CSA (???) why haven't you arrested the AIP? Probably because it was aforementioned that secession and thoughts about seceding are not illegal. They're comparing Obama to Abraham Lincoln now, it's ironic that he started the Civil War because the south seceded. It wasn't illegal then and states are within their rights to secede from the union. His pride wouldn't let him be the President that let the union collapse.

Anonymous said...

BTW there are secessionist parties in Vermont, Texas and Utah, just to name a few states, send the CSA (???) over to arrest them.

Anonymous said...

2:53 and 2:54

Nothing you've posted there is, in any way, 'racist'.

Is it racist to claim that there is a disparity in equality? Is it racist to be proud of the accomplishments of your own race when under intense oppression?

No. I would proudly sit in Rev. Wright's church. The man is speaking truth to power, and that's why it has so many of you Conservatives up in arms: He challenges the Conservative stranglehold on power and money in this country.

And you can't stand it, so you call him a 'racist' to delegitimize him. Shame on you.