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For Immediate Release – May 15, 2008
Bob Barr, former Member of Congress from Georgia and current candidate for President for the Libertarian Party, today issued the following statement in reaction to today's decision by the California Supreme Court allowing for the recognition of same sex marriage in that state:
"Regardless of whether one supports or opposes same sex marriage, the decision to recognize such unions or not ought to be a power each state exercises on its own, rather than imposition of a one-size-fits-all mandate by the federal government (as would be required by a Federal Marriage Amendment which has been previously proposed and considered by the Congress). The decision today by the Supreme Court of California properly reflects this fundamental principle of federalism on which our nation was founded.
"Indeed, the primary reason for which I authored the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 was to ensure that each state remained free to determine for its citizens the basis on which marriage would be recognized within its borders, and not be forced to adopt a definition of marriage contrary to its views by another state. The decision in California is an illustration of how this principle of states' powers should work."
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27 comments:
What does this have to do with Salisbury news?
Same argument was used about slavery, dude, to justify the Civil War.
I'm all for keeping the Feds out of my wallet and bed, but it does strike me funny that people feel it's good to be more equal in one state than another.
well they should not...civil union is your choice...married..thats another whole animal...do not agree
Guess I am from the old school . It just does not seem natural for two men or two women to be "married" . What will happen to the so called "families" with children who are raised in a mother-father environment that continues on for future generations?
The people in California tend to be a bit more "liberal" about their thinkings and basically in my opinion a little "over the edge" ! But who am I to make that judgement as they are going to do what they want to do anyway. Regardless!
"What will happen to the so called "families" with children who are raised in a mother-father environment that continues on for future generations?"
The answer is nothing will happen to them. Please explain to me how 2 people who are strangers to you getting married somehow threatens your family?
@ anon 10:51... because it won't be long before this ugly animal comes to maryland!
the problem with this is that California voted on this issue and 70% of the people voted against same sex marriage. instead four judges decieded what was best for California; this is not a good trend.
Anon 8:30 said: "the problem with this is that California voted on this issue and 70% of the people voted against same sex marriage. instead four judges decieded what was best for California; this is not a good trend."
And how many people voted it was okay to keep slaves and that nasty federal government came in and said all people should be treated equally?
You know, if you're so against gay marriage, simply take all state and federal benefits away from marriage, that's really what most gays want, equal treatment, recognition and benefits from their government. I could care less about a piece of paper that says "marriage" but would really like to have access to the same benefits with my partner that all our straight friends have. We pay the same taxes, usually more and we don't receive the same benefits for those taxes. I'll agree not to get married if you'll agree to let my family have the same benefits as yours. We're raising children too who need the same benefits yours receive.
marriage is a man and a woman... all these darn weirdos need to get that... go somewhere else and be homosexual, please, not here. please.
It's time for me to chime in and say my peace.
Look, marriage is a commitment between TWO people.
I was raised Italian Catholic and gay people were cursed by the Catholic Church back in the day.
I'm older, I'm wiser and quite frankly someone said something earlier that really hit home and it's something each and every one of you should think about much deeper.
In early America the Blacks were slaves. Today they are well respected, EQUAL human beings. That being said, cut the bullshit out and quit discriminating against gay people.
Oh, I'll add, look at how many white people are marrying black people today and having children! Is that unacceptable today as well?
You have your life, LIVE IT WELL. Gay people have their life, LIVE IT WELL! This is America Ladies & Gentlemen and our forefathers came here because of equal rights and a dream of a better life with better and DIFFERENT ideas. What right do any of you have playing the right hand of God and making such stupid decisions?
Move on and find something worthy of fighting over like the price of gasoline and why we don't have other forms of alternative fuels!
This is the only thing in the Bible where God wrath was against mankind. Romans 1 Chapters 26-32. 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Anon 9:40, first you have to assume the Bible is true and meant to be taken literally. Second, you have to assume everyone believes in your Bible and your God. Third, you have to assume that the knowledge, intellect, behaviors, and laws from a Middle Eastern country and/or religion should be followed by people in the United States all these millenia later. That for me is harder to accept than granting all families the same rights and equality before the law.
Anon 9:40 As a christian, I do believe the bible is true. Second, It is my responbility as a christian to defend my religion. If you are gay and not a christian then I guess what I stated doesn't pertain to you. Third, the bible was written for all mankind, not just Middle Eastern countries.
I find it interesting that on one of the news reports about this issue, one woman said that she was finally free to marry her partner of NINETEEN YEARS. Tell me, these days, how many conventional marriages between male and female couples last that long? It seems that people marry, divorce, marry again and divorce again, and again, and again...but close-minded people find that to be perfectly acceptable while denying same-sex couples who have been together for many years to be married. They find it perfectly acceptable for an elderly man to wed a "trophy wife" who is in it for the money. They find it perfectly acceptable for couples to get married solely because they have a child, not because they love each other. They find it perfectly acceptable for a man and a woman to get married to obtain health insurance for one of them. But when two people of the same sex have loved each other and been together faithfully for many years, somehow that isn't acceptable.
Don't worry about what other people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. It's none of your business or mine. Love is a good thing.
Hey anon 9:40,
ever wear cotton and wool together? You have violated the Old Testament, sinner!
I just can't approve of gay marriage and I love your Blog Joe..We will have to agree to disagree. I think to many people take the opinion of times have changed maybe we should think different, but God ,if your a believer made it clear that such acts were wrong forever.
Thanks
Now THAT'S what I call respectable and healthy debate. Joe Albero is NOT always right, I just have MY opinion and you respectfully have yours. Thank You.
Well, if its ok to marry to men, then its ok to marry a man and two, three, four women. And maybe a man can marry his dog, or cat or horse or pig.....there is not end in sight. Welcome to europe everyone!
I say good for California. America is made up of all sorts of views, even if everyone doesn't agree. The bottom line is everyone should be treated equally, regarless of who he or she loves.
Yes, there has been a rash of Euopeans marrying their pets!!! What a good argument!!! Show me where people are seriously marrying their pets, please. That is such a silly point. It is an issue of basic fairness--I don't care if you call it marriage or call it something else, but I should get the same benefits from my tax dollars that you do. I pay an awful lot. Show me in the Bible where it says that married couples should get tax breaks? In fact, show me in the Bible where it says government should have anything to do with marriages? I assume that many of you folks who are against gay marriage tend to be anti big-government in general. Well, to be consistent then, you should want government to stay out of people's personal relationships, right? These laws would not force a single church to perform a gay marriage, nor would they force you to like it, nor would they magically turn your children gay. All it would do is allow me some basic rights that many married couples take for granted (over 1,000 specific benefits to date, and counting). Saturday is the eighth anniversary for my partner and me, and we've managed to beat the general statistics for relationships in America. But we aren't just statistics, we are people with lives just like yours (you'd be amazed at how boring the alleged "homosexual lifestyle" is). I absolutely respect your right to your own beliefs about gay people, whether religiously motivated or not. But I think if you got to know us, you'd find out that we have far more in common than we have differences. America is supposed to be about freedom, it is places like Iran that claim to have no gay people. Do we really want to go there? Three cheers for any couple of any type out there who has made it eight or more years together!!! You are truly lucky and I hope you are as happy as we are.
Well said, Anon 11:21, Reminds me of the creationist (ID) against the science-based folks: No contest whatsoever once the facts are laid out like you just did. And congratulations on 8 yrs of couplehood. My first marriage didn't make that mark, hopefully my 2nd will. At least I got my tax break back.
I love people who quote the bible in order to have a reason to hate.
My guess is the Jesus would be found with the homosexuals, drug dealers, criminals, etc. instead of being in the church you go to.
Here are some other quotes:
Matthew 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Paul also condemned women preaching (1 Cor 14:34) or wearing gold or pearls (1 Tim 2:11). He also accepted and did not condemn the institution of slavery. Many Christians feel that his writings reflect his own prejudices are not a particularly useful guide for ethics and morals in the 20th Century.
Remember God loves you and all others! He does not love you more!
When people quote the bible to support their beliefs that homosexuality is a sin, all they convince me of is that the MEN who wrote the bible were just as homophobic as they are.
anon 2:59 and 8:14 - How sad it is that you are judging me. I do not hate anyone. I just simply put out there what the bible says. It was not my opinion or anyone elses, it was Gods rule. As a christian I try to live by life the best I can by the bible. I am not a perfect person. Obviously, you think this is about the person and not the act. I believe Jesus does love the drug dealers, criminal etc... just as I do, but that does not mean he approved of the behavior. His job was to try and help those follow Gods word. That is what I try to do.
I used to be annoyed listening to the folks persecuting people, backed by the word of the Bible... but now I just laugh at them and feel sorry they have no sense of awareness and cannot think for themselves. It's still hard to comprehend that in 2008 there are people who are this concerned with strangers, whom they will never have contact with, that are fighting for their basic rights.
The subject of homosexuality ALWAYS brings out the wingnuts!LOL
Instead of marriage,which should be kept between a man and woman, I do think our federal and state governments should allow "civil domestic partnerships" where both parties would enjoy the same benefits as married hetero couples.It's only fair.I am convinced that sexual orientation is ingrained in us at birth,just like eye color and what have you.Just 30-40 yrs ago,psychiatric diagnostic manuals were still referring to homosexuality as a mental defect.We now know differently.
I'm "anon 8:14, and I did not accuse "anon 8:58" of hating anyone, nor did I judge you. Disagreeing with yur beliefs does not imply judgement or hatred. It is simply my opinion that the gospels were written by human beings, expressing their own opinions. If you want to believe that these writers got their words directly from God, be my guest. If I were to tell you that God spoke directly to me and had me write it all down, you would laugh at me and consider me a candidate for the loony bin. But somehow, you believe that nearly 2000 years ago, this did happen. The books included in the New Testament, by the way, were written no less than 75 years after the crucifixtion. There are no eyewitness reports of any of jesus' activities; rather, stories were handed down and embellished along the way before being written. Furthermore, there are other gospels not included in the bible. Emporor Constantine, around 989 CE, decided which gospels were to be included in the bible. Anything that contradicted the claims of Jesus' divinity was left out. Don't you find it interesting that there is nothing in the bible about his activities between the ages of twelve and thirty?
Believe what you want to believe, and I'll believe what I want to. I'm not condemning you for anything.
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