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Sunday, December 30, 2012

TAKERS OUTNUMBER MAKERS


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Government Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States
By Michael, on December 26th, 2012

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-number-of-people-on-welfare-exceeds-the-number-of-people-with-jobs-in-11-states

America is rapidly becoming a nation of takers. An increasing number of Americans expect the government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave, and they expect the government to dig into the pockets of others in order to pay for it all. This philosophy can be very seductive, but what happens when the number of takers eventually outnumbers the number of producers? In 11 different U.S. states, the number of government dependents exceeds the number of private sector workers. This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii. It is interesting to note that seven of those states were won by Barack Obama on election night. In California, there are 139 “takers” for every 100 private sector workers. That is crazy! The American people have become absolutely addicted to government money, and it gets worse with each passing year. If you can believe it, entitlements accounted for 62 percent of all federal spending in fiscal year 2012. It would be one thing if we could afford all of this spending, but unfortunately we simply cannot. We are drowning in debt, and we are stealing more than a hundred million more dollars from future generations with each passing hour. No bank robber in history can match that kind of theft.

Yes, we will always need a safety net. There are many people out there that simply cannot take care of themselves. We certainly don’t want to see anyone sleeping in the streets or starving to death.

But if the number of people jumping on to the safety net continues to grow at the current pace, the net will break and it will not be available for any of us.

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18 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is exactly what you are going to see more of. Thomas Sowell, Professor at the University of Stanford in California wrote a piece last fall. It stated simply that the government can take away the wealth of those in the present but in doing so it takes away the wealth of the future.

People who have their assets stolen by the government will not continue to work and make money for the government. They will close up shop, go home, hide, and do what they can to survive.

It is what is coming. America's values are gone.

Anonymous said...

With corporations like Walmart and many other employers paying much less than a living wage, but help their employees get the government dole to suppliment their employees income is robbery of another kind.

They rob their employees of dignity and responcibility. The more corporations that follow that path will only lead to more dependence, get used to it.

Anonymous said...

With corporations like Walmart and many other employers paying much less than a living wage, but help their employees get the government dole to suppliment their employees income is robbery of another kind.

They rob their employees of dignity and responcibility. The more corporations that follow that path will only lead to more dependence, get used to it.

Anonymous said...

Back in the 1950's there was an unrecorded law on the books vs welfare. It was called if you eat, you work. If you have a shelter over your head, you work. Guess what, everybody worked, and they strived even harder to get better paying jobs. They didn't waste their money on junk from foreign countries because anything not made in America was garbage. It still is! Their credit cards had zero balances due. Why, because credit cards didn't exist, and bank credit was only earned by "paid for (almost unheard of today)" assets or your personal reputation of being a hard worker. So if you're on any kind of welfare dependency assistance today, know what the majority of us think about YOU, we (the people) that you drain every day, the same group that have worked during their income producing years, before retiring. WE think that YOU welfare recipient sponges are a collective group of worthless lazy BUMS. I, personally, could care less about any of your wants, your needs, your problems. Get a job you deadbeats to fill up all that wasted time and space your void on working class society every day, you're dragging every hard worker in America down.

Anonymous said...

1:02
You're such an idiot!

Anonymous said...

You know something - I get so sick of Walmart being villified.

American business has a right to operate the way it works best for them. Their business model was exactly to hire part time employees and offer the best prices on goods for lower and middle class americans. It worked until the liberals got wind of it and went on the attack.

They hired young mothers who wanted to be home when their children arrived on the school bus, high school and college students for flexible schedules. That is where people generally start out - working part time jobs while being in college and getting ahead in other ways.

They did have a small full time staff that surprise - DID GET BENEFITS.

I never worked for Walmart but get so sick of the attacks on it.

Anonymous said...

Name calling? That's all you got 1:34?

You don't know who to blame because you are a fool, you blame the president, the economy, everyone else except yourself, while I work to put your kids through school and security to protect them too?

I don't work for Walmart, however if I needed to, I would.

Anonymous said...

I agree 1:22. Once upon a time these sponges were also shunned and ostracized by decent moral society and that way of thinking needs to return. Parents didn't let their children associate with those on the "other side of the tracks" meaning the bum types.
That way of thinking needs to return instead of the politically correct thinking of not looking down on others.
Another thing is we need to stop giving them things. Food pantries, toys for Christmas etc because guess what? That's not helping anyone only enabling. The Bible says you don't work you don't eat. Handing out a bag of food to someone with their hand out is the easy way and only serves to make those doing the handing feel good about themselves. In actuality it helps no one. It should be the recipents have to show where they did something in exchange. Chores such as weeding at a church or washing windows at a nursing home or some non profit but just indiscriminately handing out freebies shouldn't be done.

Anonymous said...

I used to think similar as to what 2:15 said about Walmart until I found out that over 50% (some estimates have it at 80%) of their employees are on some type of government entitlement. They hire part time (approx 37 hrs so no chance of having to pay overtime) As far as Walmart selling for lower prices to consumers, that may be true, but we are paying elsewhere in the form of taxes to subsidize their employees.
There employees are in that 47% that pay no income taxes, so they contribute nothing to public safety, schools, etc, services they all use.
Also Walmart lobbied the fed gov't heavily for the "food stamp" entitlement to be expanded. They "coach" employees on how to sign up for Medicaid (low income health insurance paid for by tax payers.)
The bottom line is Walmart is a main abuser of what is known as Corporate Welfare and a prime example of when Obama said "they didn't build that" because had they paid their employees more they couldn't have expanded so quickly. This Walmart isn't the Walmart that Sam Walton founded anymore.

Anonymous said...

5:38
How many other companies pay their employees the same as Walmart do? How about the stores in the mall? Do they start their employees off at a higher wage? Do they provide more hours? How about places like Target, Kmart, Home Depot, and Lowes?

Anonymous said...

5:46-

Walmart pays less than other retail firms. A 2005 study found that Walmart workers earn an estimated 12.4% less than retail workers as a whole, and 14.5% less than workers in large retail in general. A 2007 study which compared Wal-mart to other general merchandising employers found a wage gap of 17.4%

Also--

Walmart store openings destroy almost three local jobs for every two they create by reducing retail employment by an average of 2.7 percent in every county they enter.

Anonymous said...

2007 study found that, as of that date, Walmart had received more than $1.2 billion in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost financing and outright grants from state and local governments around the country. This number has surely increased as Walmart continues to receive additional subsidies.

Anonymous said...

And this----

■Taxpayers Subsidize Walmart’s Low Wages and Poor Benefits – In many states across the country, Walmart is the employer with the largest number of employees and dependents using taxpayer-funded health insurance programs.
■A few examples: ■In Arizona, according to data released by the state in 2005, the company had more 2,700 employees on the state-funded plan.
■The company also topped the list in their home state of Arkansas, with nearly 4,000 employees forced onto the state’s plan according to data released by the state in 2005
■In Massachusetts, in 2009, taxpayers paid $8.8 million for Walmart associates to use publicly subsidized healthcare services.
■Although national numbers are not available, if the cost to Massachusetts taxpayers is adjusted nationwide, the cost would be roughly $1 billion.

Anonymous said...


"Here’s a closer look at how your favorite seller of lawn bag potato chips is blatantly exploiting tax-payer funded programs:





•Walmart’s intentionally low wages force employees to need approximately $420,000 per year, per store, totalling $2.66 BILLION annually in food stamps and other taxpayer assistance…to survive.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages cost the country HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars in payroll tax deductions for Federal, State, and Local taxes.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages cost our communities the ability to hire and retain important public service workers like firefighters, police officers, maintenance workers, and teachers.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages cost our communities with their increased need for those same public services they are underfunding.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages and lack of covered benefits cost taxpayers over $1.02 BILLION a year in healthcare costs.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages cost taxpayers as much as $225 MILLION in free and reduced price lunches for school-age children.
•Walmart’s intentionally low wages cost taxpayers over $780 MILLION in tax deductions for low-income families."

Anonymous said...

Hey - you with the bullet points about WalMart's many sins - I don't think any of that is a product of your independent research. Care to share your source(s)?

"Walmart’s intentionally low wages and lack of covered benefits cost taxpayers over $1.02 BILLION a year in healthcare costs."

Huh? Sounds like agenda-driven BS to me.

Also, what's your basis for comparison supporting these statements?

Anonymous said...

This is 1:02 and I hope you "know it alls" know how to read about "The costs of buying cheap," since you know everything else.

Call me an idiot if you like. I thank those who supported my statement, it's just not worth arguing with people with narrow, to no mind at all.

If I weren't a Christian I'd wish those with differing opinions the same fate endured by many Americans today. You too, may be just a short time away from losing your jobs and benefits. You should be counting your blessings.

Anonymous said...

Just look at all the small Mom and pop shops, hardware etc., that walmart puts out of business everytime they open a store.

At least Mom and Pop took care of their employees.

Anonymous said...

When Sam walton died in 1992 his net worth was $23 billion. His three heirs are now worth over $100 billion collectively. 400% return on the backs of their employees, good thing they can afford body guards.