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Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Don't Know Much About History

By pandora

Stories like this make me angry. Is our goal really to become the dumbest country on the planet? Perhaps we should rethink the Texas secession thing… especially given their influence over the textbook market.

The Texas Board of Education, which recently approved new science standards that made room for creationist critiques of evolution, is revising the state’s social studies curriculum. In early recommendations from outside experts appointed by the board, a divide has opened over how central religious theology should be to the teaching of history.

Three reviewers, appointed by social conservatives, have recommended revamping the K-12 curriculum to emphasize the roles of the Bible, the Christian faith and the civic virtue of religion in the study of American history. Two of them want to remove or de-emphasize references to several historical figures who have become liberal icons, such as César Chávez and Thurgood Marshall.

Christianists like to whine about the war against their faith, but if they keep shoving this nonsense down everyone’s throat they might find themselves creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have always been a live and let live sort of person, but this sort of indoctrination of our school children is where I draw the line.

And look at who’s on the committee and what they think (and I use the word think loosely):

The three reviewers appointed by the moderate and liberal board members are all professors of history or education at Texas universities, including Mr. de la Teja, a former state historian. The reviewers appointed by conservatives include two who run conservative Christian organizations: David Barton, founder of WallBuilders, a group that promotes America’s Christian heritage; and Rev. Marshall, who preaches that Watergate, the Vietnam War and Hurricane Katrina were God’s judgments on the nation’s sexual immorality. The third is Daniel Dreisbach, a professor of public affairs at American University.

The conservative reviewers say they believe that children must learn that America’s founding principles are biblical. For instance, they say the separation of powers set forth in the Constitution stems from a scriptural understanding of man’s fall and inherent sinfulness, or “radical depravity,” which means he can be governed only by an intricate system of checks and balances.

The curriculum, they say, should clearly present Christianity as an overall force for good — and a key reason for American exceptionalism, the notion that the country stands above and apart.

Talk about rewriting history.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

If we are so educated you should know that Evolution is a theory. It has never been proven and we have never actually seen any living thing evolve from another.
Therefore Creation is also a theoryand should be taught along with evolution. And yes our country was founded on Biblical principles. So what is the problem with teaching both theories. Our founding fatherswould have turned over in their graves if they were aware of how we have stomped out religion in our society today.

Anonymous said...

It's strange when someone tries to teach us how "Bad" Christianity is "Christianists like to whine...", "Is our goal really to become the dumbest country on the planet?" while in the same breath telling us how it's wrong to teach about religion.

Hypocrite

Anonymous said...

Typical dumba$$ conservative bunk.

Anonymous said...

If not for Christianity, we would not be a nation. Bibles used to be used for history classes until many elitists took over and yes indeed, have dumbed us down. Congrads less than two cents. You continue getting everything wrong! You must be proud.

Two Sentz said...

Congrats 3:46 for not reading who wrote the article.

Anonymous said...

Whats wrong with teaching the bible in school? Might bring a lil sanity to this nation. And futhermore, about this evolution filth, since we originated from bacteria or single cell organisms (or whatever they say) then why is that not happening now? How come I don't see tree's and birds and people comming from bacteria or fungus or whatever? Riddle me that.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, let's use the Bible as a history book! And a science book while we are at it! Clearly, the knowledge of people who don't understand what the word "theory" means to scientists (3:34), or how to spell "congratulations" (3:46), or the basic truth that evolution is constantly taking place--for example, the flu virus evolves every single year (4:03) is evidence that we just have too much learnin' going on! Seriously, you people need to come up with better arguments than this. It is truly sad.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:34, evolution is not a theory. Scientists regularly see evolution in progress as they watch viruses mutate into different organisms, which is why we have to keep creating new vaccines to fight these new viruses. And yes, I am a Christian and I do believe in God. I also believe God created all this life on this planet to constantly evolve to keep a balance between all the various life forms on this planet. There is room for faith and science. I have faith that my God's creations are more complex than many people give God credit for.

Anonymous said...

The Bible was and is the first history book written. Evolution
is still theory anyway you look at it.

Anonymous said...

4:19 Yea but it's the FLU. Not people or animales or plants a freaking virus. I'm pretty sure it will get stronger but it won't grow to anything more than a virus.

Anonymous said...

4:20

You're a fool.

Haven't you heard the term "Theory of Evolution???"

Viruses mutating does not equate to evolution.

Dig your head out of your anal orifice.

Anonymous said...

I guess you friggin idiots would prefer that we were Muslims and lived under sharia law. Then all of you liberal women could wear your little burkas and be stoned or beheaded for not following their truly offensive religion or cult or whatever that POS religion is

Unknown said...

3:34

If Evolution taught that pigs could fly, it still wouldn't give any credibility to Jewish creation mythology, or any similar mythology.

Theory means that a scientific perspective supports the observation. Science in no way supports creation myths.

If we were to teach Christian mythology in the same classroom with Evolution, then we should also teach that life is a dream of Vishnu sleeping on a lily pad.

Unknown said...

4:03 Do you really want the Bible taught in school? Have you actually read it? Here's a sample:

"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled."
(Ezekiel 23:20-21)

Anonymous said...

Are we teaching science or religion in Public Schools ??

Newton had a "theory" of gravity ....

Einstein a "theory" of relativity ..

"i" before "e" except after "c".

Texas is 1 st. in Capital Punishment (executions) 49th. in Public School funding !!!

Anon 4:29 - No it wasn't - you gradeated da 6th. grade ?

Anon 4:49 - You studied Biology @ what College/University ? - Take your own advice !!!

Bet joe wont post this !!

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of that song,"Dont know much about geograpy, dont know much about history. Who the hell was that group?

Anonymous said...

5:09
RIGHT ON!!!!!

chuck said...

How about this as a compromise:

We let them teach "Creationism" in Science class if people can be allowed to teach Evolution at Sunday services.

Deal?

joealbero said...

OUCH!

Anonymous said...

Natural Selection is a fact.
We can all understand the idea of survival of the fittest.

Mutation is a fact.
A mutation is an error in gene repair. It causes permanent change in an organism but it does not create a new organism.

Adaptation is a fact.
Organisms change both behavior and physical traits to better suit changes in their environment.

These three things happen all the time. There may be significant change to an organism that experiences one or more of these processes. However it remains the same organism and no new form of life is created.

Do not mistake these things for evolution.

There are many scientists that do believe the evolution theory yet they stll cannot agree on answers to the questions Why, How, When, Where, or Who.

There are also many scientists that feel the theory of evolution falls short.

Evolution is still very much just a theory. A theory that has zero physical evidence. A theory that is losing popularity.

There is indeed large amounts of evidence for the validity of the Bible. Thousands of historical documents, Thousands of archeological finds. There is evidence in astronomy, geology, literature, archeology, and chemestry that point towards creation, or at least to intellegent design.

For me it would take a much greater leap of faith to believe that life in all its various forms came from a hot murky puddle than to believe that God said "let there be light"

Anonymous said...

chuck said...
"We let them teach "Creationism" in Science class if people can be allowed to teach Evolution at Sunday services."

Deal! You just have to allow school vouchers so parents can send their children to whatever school they want.

You can already attend whatever church you want.

tom t said...

circumstantial evidence for creationism:

the earth is the exact distance from the sun to sustain life...

the moon is the exact distance from the earth to form a perfect eclipse with the sun... a naturally, beautiful happenstance?

the earth is the exact size to cast it's shadow back on the moon, perfectly sized, to eclipse it...

the chances of that happening by mere coincidence is more proof than a sea going iguana proving evolution... it's still an iguana... adaptation is god's way of working out the kinks to his creation...

my humble opinion.

t

Anonymous said...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13717-evolution-myths-yet-more-misconceptions.html

Creationists, please read through this list before presenting your arguments.

Anonymous said...

"http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13717-evolution-myths-yet-more-misconceptions.html

Creationists, please read through this list before presenting your arguments."

When a dog breeder can make a doberman with feathers or have a shepard with gills, I'll rethink my opinion.

That list you post is no evidence for evolution at all.

If we went to the mall today. Any mall in any part of the world. If we took the skeleton from everybody at the mall and studied it, we would find the missing link.

There are many variations within species. These variations in the fossil record are not "transitional" they are mutations. A giraffe with a short neck is still just a giraffe. A hungry giraffe maybe.

chuck said...

10:34,

There is 170 years of evidence, research, and experimental data backing up the theory of Evolution.

Nothing of empirical value exists for Creationism. NOTHING.

4:25,

There are countless transitional fossils on record, showing a direct link between one species and another.

Here's the point, fellas: Evolution is scientific fact. I know that you desperately don't want to believe that, but that's your problem, not the Scientific community. The book is closed on Evolution.