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What??????? You mean a cop actually got no pay while getting a free vacation????? I guess you have to shoot someone to get paid vacation....
Can't even trust the cops.
I am shocked, he was a good man. Wonder what happened.
1:09 PM Big assumption. He would not be the first to be set up.
Oh sure you cant... one of them make commit a crime so they must all be bad right??? Might want to go back in your hole because God forbid you see a doctor since some had performed uneccessary surgeries etc before. May not want to go out and eat anymore- some chefs have poisoned food before. May not want to get your car washed- some cleaners have stolen from the vehicles before.... one person doesn't define everyone...
I find it hard to believe. He is a fine individual and a good cop.
the courts wlll see the truth...if this is set up... people will be sued..we shall see
Gambling problem.
1:39 what the hell are you talking about?
Criminal with a badge
Fisher has been a criminal his entire career and everyone who's in the loop knows what I'm saying is 100% true. "We all know Marty has had his problems..." From the MSP Superintendent and that's just one letter.
Perhaps others should be charged also. How does one person have access to FOP funds?
Try reading. I understood what 139 said
Both him and his POS wife deserve everything that is coming. He sucked as a Deputy and she sucked as a Trooper.
I just heard he got 100,000 secured bond. WTF is going on? A rapist just got 25k bond. This sounds bad. Also heard the amount that they say he took. No way in hell a board missed all that. Something stinks here. Sounds like this belongs in a civil court room. Great guy this is very sad.
Not what I said or meant. Try grammar and spell check moron.
3:09 what would MSP have to do with him. He works for Mike Lewis. I know the man he has worked some big cases this is the first time I have ever heard anything negative about him. Funny he was so bad they elected him President of the F.O.P. your story does not cut. Hang in there Fish.
4:09 I take it you are not a police officer. Known them twenty five years they both worked hard. I am guessing you are also 3:09.
Good people sometimes do bad things.
The parents of many psychopaths can't believe their children are/were serial killers. Very charismatic.
Agreed. There are bad people of every race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, religion and age. You can judge people based on the actions of one.
AGREED
Let's see if the boys in blue will band together for good Ole boy Marty
Just like the ECI scandal. Where are the Treasurer's reports
1:39 If what you say is true about "one person doesn't define everyone", doesn't that apply to black, muslims and hispanics as well as white cops?
Felony charges are no pay under law. Read the law before hating. Yes you voted for Clinton... don't be like CNN, research tell the truth. FYI I don't care about this case I'm just stating fact.
^ aww,name calling... need a bed time sorry read do you???
The ONLY one I would trust from WCSO is Mike Carey!! The man is trustworthy, shows honesty and integrity. He's a good man going his job providing for his family. God bless you man!!
You tell us... your the one that separated the groups in your message above, you even separated cops in general and listed it as "white cops".
To funny, union member stealing from themselves and not the taxpayers. All union leader's are thieves!
Yeah, OK. As a Barrack commander she called a Trooper the "n" word. She's top notch!! Retired instead of fired.
Bubba awaits new arrivals!!!!
Innocent until proven guilty.
Funny I heard he was paying money back to FOP. So does that not make it a civil issue. Some might call it loan. Look no further then the NEW acting President for this. I smell a law suit on this one..
Ditto 6:19. MC a good decent man. Solid family you should want as neighbors. Others should emulate and lose some unjustified arrogance.
Carey is the only one in the bunch I would bet on
The band of blue won't protect him, they're the ones who initiated the whole thing. Total betrayal of their trust as well as the publics.
This has political setup written all over it, misusing an expense fund would definitely be a civil case and even then they would have removed him from office at the lodge and asked for restitution, really a rapist in the high school bail set at 25K and a $20 hunting license a 100K. I have had a union president spend way more than that in all different venues and we ask him to just step down.Who ever he pissed off is high up the food chain but the its the Eastern shore.Lets kick out the guys that help our work environment and vote for Hillary. The same guy just solved the murder of a two year old not that long ago and it was on the news here.
Hey I know the guy he will rise up out of this. He is ruined as a cop but he will be fine. I do agree he pissed someone off. He was Just re-elected as President ? Makes no sense to me. This has Mike Lewis written all over it. How does Lewis start investigating a fraternal order without someone filing a formal complaint. Knowing Mikey he just took it and ran with it. The Lodge is in Salisbury City anyway. Lewis kicked the guy out of the CAC when he took office. Then put him back because the man knows his stuff. I think this was an angry board member and she got just what she wanted she is now the acting President. I hope Fish knows SHE pushed this. Hang in there Fish. 100K secured WTF. Disharoon one and done over this trust me on that FOP wants Paul M. anyway maybe she knew this.
Marty is my uncle. He is alot of things but a thief isn't one. He's pissed alot of deputies off in the past even turned some in . He's also a huge threat to Mike Lewis if he ever ran for sheriff. I don't buy this crap one bit. Has he done unsavory things in the past? Damn right. I have been wanting to bust his ass for years. He won't knuckle up. Can't stand him hardly due to family issues. But as a cop he is top notch. I'll tell you all like it is. Thief is not in the Fisher blood. Sure as hell not in him. Wish you the best thru thus Mart.
I'm confused. Why are people beating up on Sheriff Mike Lewis over this? The Sheriff was not the one who stole the money! The Sheriff was not the treasurer who failed to catch this or report this in a timely manner. The Sheriff was not one of the F.O.P board members who new or should have known that a $50,000 plus theft was occurring in the lodge that they are in charge of. I feel sorry for the good men and women of F.O.P lodge 111. Stop beating up on the Sheriff. All he is doing is cleaning up the mess that should have NEVER happened to begin with. I think if Marty Fisher is found guilty of the theft and can't afford to pay back the full amount the ones found guilty of knowing or should have known that a theft was occurring should pay the rest of the money back. That's what a responsible person would do. I would hate to be a person responsible for men and women's money who put their lives on the line every day and FAILED THEM!!!!!!!
If anything is learned from this guys , CHECKS AND BALANCES PEOPLE!
Your a tool. Marty didn't do this. If Mike Lewis can cover up a murder by a deputy he can surely Fram a deputy for theft. In the sheriffs office it's all about who you know and blow.the good Ole boy connection is a very real and alive thing among these guys. And old man Lewis will absolutely shut down any threat against him or anyone who speaks poorly "truthfully" about him. Some say he has a gambling problem. Maybe so. But he wins more than looses. Hell I'd have a problem to if I was always winning.
The defense of LEWIS is absurd!!! What do you think he did with majority of drug confiscation and drug money confiscated while was a member of Maryland state police drug interdiction?? He's no saint
All I'm saying is.... Put the blame where deserved. Here are the facts:
A large $50,000 plus is missing from F.O.P lodge 111!
Marty was president.
Sheriff Mike Lewis has nothing to do with this! Put your time and energy in seeing that those deserving of criminal charges or rank loss or termination through their agencies get it!
One thing that we can all agree on someone or more than one on that board is responsible for this theft!
Oversight would have caught and stopped this!
Where in the HELL was the treasure?!?!?!?
I think the treasure civilly is just as guilty as Marty for failing to do his job! If it's proven he new this was going on and failed to report it as a police officer, well I will let you guys decide what should happen to HIS JOB!
The Sheriff has no choice but to clean this mess up! I'm sure like the rest of the lodge he wished this never happened!
This comment section isnt helping anything
Mike LEWIS " I WON'T BE HELD IN CONTEMPT " funny how quick he throws others under the bus and Robinson can't post it all over the internet
If you were MSP you would know the truth about that guy. That word wasn't used. He was reprimanded for sitting in a break room and not responding to a call for in excess of 15 minutes while he finished his lunch and then had the nerve to smack a Barack Commander on the bottom in the parking lot because of it. We are forced to work with people like that. It should have been the other way around. You can't be MSP and if so we are blessed to have to work with you as well.
LT. Tim Robinson now there's another one of WCSO finest,really excelling Internet police
Hang Tough!Great Officer. Cares about his co-workers. So does Mike Lewis and he is working on correcting this and has been. Anything outside the by laws of the lodge can have a simple restitution agreement and be asked to step down. Mike was formally MSP, the department will call for action and Mike will deliver as he has in the past.
Heard the same thing.Twenty plus years of good even when this is over, the negative media hurts.
You can't take money without consent, return it later, and all it a loan. That's still theft.
She won't be around the lodge long. They were going to get Paul anyway. Fish has some sort of cancer.
The Sheriff didn't investigate this. Check out who filed charges. SPD also didn't investigate because their members are also victims. You are lying to cover for a thief.
Mike Carey for sheriff!!!
I wonder how many receipts have been carelessly lost and who lost them. It was originally four items totaling just over $1200 not allowable in a discretionary fund used to pay the dinner meeting expenses with politicians and lobbyist for the benefit of the members and also any other departments looking to secure parity on recent improvements. Fish is a Wicomico county die hard. See if any of the county steps up to help him have decent representation. Wicomico is pretty funny about taking care of its own.The people behind pushing the agenda will all at some point break a law. Drinking and driving can be a career ender. Noticed, Attorneys like to celebrate. That brush stroke was a little wide so I will say some.
Hey guys keep his medical stuff off of here. Knowing Marty the way I do if he did wrong he will take his punishment. If in fact he was paying money back this should have been kept in house. If no one else will say I will. Lewis has hated Marty since day one. We would not see him at the office for weeks at a time or longer. He was never one of Mikes boys. The fact is he loves all cops. He loves the Sheriff's Office. He loved playing cards and hunting. Pretty simple guy. By the bond amount I think he is in deep trouble it reeks of grand standing. I am truly worried about the guy.
Bottom line, she was charged, the charge was sustained and she retired in lieu of being fired. Those are the FACTS. Sugar coat it or spin it however you want.
1:33 cares she called it like it was. I believe was defending a black trooper and said "He is not your nigger" When a certain First Sgt. was harassing this new black trooper. If she even said that. I know for a fact the 1st Sgt used the word all the time. Ohhhhhhhh Ummmmmmmmmm boring. There are some deputies that Mike swept major crap under the rug. Fisher is just not one of his boys or this would have went civil. I just hope he does not give up on himself. Funny State's Attorney's Office did a press release prior to trial that is highly odd to say the least. The bond was excessive for this type of case hope he hired a good lawyer. With what i am seeing he is toast in this county.
Thank you for clarifying that she did in fact use the "N" word. As a Lieutenant and Barrack Commander with MSP, she should have certainly known that she could not use that word when referring to a black Trooper. You just proved my point and why she retired before she was fired. Racism is not acceptable
If you look at the FOP's website Jeff Hickman was the treasurer. He was responsible for keeping track of the funds in and out, all the credit card statements and bank statements. Hickman is now suspended WITH PAY from the Sheriff's Office for all this stuff. How is it that Hickman didn't know about all this stuff occurring? Seems to be that there is collusion between Hickman and Fisher. Why wasn't Hickman charged?? Coverup??
She happens to be half black you dumb ass. So if you are offended oh well. Who cares she had her time in and she is gone now. I happened to like her as well as most black troopers that worked for a living. So call a Spade a Spade. She does not have a racist bone in her body. You on other hand sound like one of those BLM idiots. Suck on that
Your an idiot and know nothing about the case laughable thinking it's a frame job
5:28..... There are lots of people wondering what's going on with this..... I hope no stone is left unturned ! A treasurer for any organization that failed in his duty resulting in catastrophic financial loses HAS TO be held accountable!!!!! If at any pointe he new about this and failed to report it and there for allowed the lodge members to continue to be victimized was wrong. If the investigation proves he new or should have known or could have stopped the bleeding he needs to be held accountable in the highest degree!
I just hope some how some way our local police officers can get there $50,000 plus money returned to their local fraternity!
Hickman responded to my house once when my something got stolen. He was a seriously nasty and ill tempered.
I know that guy Hickman!!!! I came into the lobby of the sheriff's Dept once and asked to see Mike. Hickman asked me Mike who with a snotty attitude. Completely disrespectful.
That entire place is crooked as Hillery Clinton.
By the way Fisher turned himself in. I also heard he has accepted full responsibility for his actions. That is what I figured he would do. The guy loves all cops no matter what color uniform they wear. It makes me sad he was a fun guy at one time. You could tell when he was in the building lol. Since he was in the hospital all that time he was not the same guy. He just disappeared. All he did was hang around F.O.P. guys. Who knows this is sad. I am afraid he will do something tragic. I talked to him yesterday he is not his self at all. Hang in there Brother this will pass. Just like you told me once being a cop is not who you are it is how you pay the bills. One has to be careful pursuing monster you can become one yourself. Reach out man if you need anything. I mean anything.
SM
Oh yea Happy Thanksgiving Fish and all of you that serve and protect.
Right i hope that wasnt his mug shot in the news. He looks mentally unstable
Right. Lol. Whats good for the goose...
He made someone mad. Mean girls 2...
Right. I guess shaking down drug dealers to get new vehicles and etc., lacks conflicts of interest. I was always taught taking dirty money is bad as taking it. That money could go to takecare of victims and/ or children dealers leave society to take care of.
Jeff Hickman has always been a total ass. Buddies with administratiom. It's not surprising he's involved.
There's a lot to be said about the mythical so called "Napoleon small man syndrome". What is it with the little short loud mouthed men in Wicomico county md that get a little power and authority, I've come in contact with a few LIKE Mike LEWIS and more recently Jake Day and of all things a pastor by the name of Bill Cropper and they absolutely are the most ignorant self centered egotistical narcassistic pigs I've ever been around. When did being a part of public service become about you guys and not about the people you're supposed to be helping?? This guy Cropper is really a tool he actually calls himself a man of God when all he talks about or cares about is some travel baaeball team he's supposedly a part of and making excuses on why his kid has been run out of South Carolina baseball team and God will give all his high school glory days back to him and move on to professional baseball
How do we go from a FELONY theft from a local F.O.P Lodge here in Salisbury , MD to talking about.....
Mike Lewis, Jake Day, Bill Cropper and others. Let's not shift the focus to others. Believe me our local police officers need our support to insure NO ONE involved even in the smallest way squeaks by without PUNISHMENT !
I can't believe there isn't more talk about this than what I have seen and heard so far !
I now here the theft amount is $73,000. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Remember there are people in positions that will do the best DAMAGE CONTROL they can ! Which means if this dies down some with some or little involvement may squeak by. This must not happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe if F.O.P Lodge 111 wants to survive this they need to tell there members, media and local law enforcement every intricate detail. Even those small ugly details that they may not want told. I hope those that are being accused start putting information out there if there is any to put out. No need to go down on the sinking ship alone! SBY NEWS is a great way to get information out there! Everyone have a great thanksgiving !
Speaking of which why wasn't this Hickman guy charged? How can someone be the treasurer of the FOP and not notice 73000 missing from the till. Either he was in on it or totally incompetent.
Here's a thought.
If a majority of the members of FOP Lodge 111, to whom the money belonged, voted to retroactively make the money a loan, to Marty Fisher, would there be a crime?
Guess that explains how she ever got promoted, she claimed minority status. Thanks for clearing that up. She certainly never EARNED a promotion. Oh well, now she has more time to spend with Pardoe.
Yes because he used their money without permission. Dues come out of everyone's paycheck who are members. Everyone would have to vote prior to charging him that is was a loan. It would be different if he was suffering from a medical condition and the members voted it prior as a loan. Although you have to have a victim for a crime. But it was already reported as a theft.
No, but if your traveling and that is the only card with you, you can call a board member for approval and they will separate it out. Handled that way in many Lodges. It may be changing now, but it is past practice.
11:35 AM,
If it is retroactively voted to have been a loan, there is no longer a theft.
All this talk of a loan....... With the multiple and I do mean multiple bank statements. What the money was spent on. The F.O.P would not survive if the F.O.P tried to do this doing away with the criminal aspect. There are lots of members just waiting to see how this all pans out. If this is not done right you will see more than half the member quit ! Out of necessity all involved must be criminally charged if probable cause exist. Charged departmentally if at all possible and held civilly liable if appropriate! The police can not loose the trust of the people. Wicomico County citizens are already scratching there head saying " what the Hell are those cops doing at F.O.P Lodge 111".
Nonsense. First it's not going to happen. Money came out if each officers check. So technically they are all victims. All of them would have to vote for it. Won't happen.
If you ask me this Hickman character has a lot to do with it. How can the treasurer not know seventy grand is missing? He's the treasurer. Don't call me for another donation if your donation money gets gambled away and the treasurer has no idea what the hell happened or isn't charged criminally. I agree with the other poster, he's either involved or an idiot.
I hope F.O.P members read 2:39 pm because this is what will happen if the citizens don't trust you guys ! You are right on 2:39 !
1:44 PM,
Actually, once the money was paid to the FOP, it belonged to the local FOP. Therefore, the local FOP is the alleged victim.
In law, the local FOP is its' members. Therefore, if a majority of the local FOP members vote to retroactively authorize a loan, there is no longer a theft or a crime.
Well it's not going to happen. So forget it. That's giving cops a license to steal. The money was taken from members paychecks and public donations. I will never donate to the FOP again.
You are playing games with other people's money. Reguardless if it the property of the FOP now, it was taken from cops paychecks and public donations. You are talking semantics.
A theft happened. It was not authorized prior to it happening. The FOP already got charges. Both of these characters Fisher and Hickman are responsible. Fisher directly, Hickman principally for negligence of his office.
Won't happen, can't happen... Unless the FOP wants to be NO MORE !
@9:44 am did you even give your mind enough time to process the thread and the fact it started out about Mike Lewis, who is the sheriff of wicomico county, who did initiate the investigation and how all of your so called leaders are nothing more than a bunch of self absorbed wind bags who when it comes down to it are merely in it for their own personal recognition and ability to further their agendas?? It doesn't take much for wicomico county residents to believe in with the bunch you have running your county.
In firmly agree. The admin are all losers. All about themselves, protecting who they want to protect. Lewis hates Fisher because he speaks his mind and loves Hickman because he's an ass kisser. So Fisher is sent up the river and Hickman is taken care of. Same old same old sheriff's office.
Sheriff's office is corrupt as hell under Lewis. The entire administration is corrupt. Sickening.
Help a brotha out.
Vote loan on December 12 at 1900.
No way. If the FOP grants a "loan" I swear I will never give another penny to the FOP again. And it will solidify a fact that members of the FOP are crooked also by supporting crooked members. So the cops and the FOP are crooked if they vote "Loan". That's my donation money. Never. Gambling away money is not a loan.
706 that's an excellent idea. While we are at it maybe we can loan super cop Hickman a brain. Obviously he's a world class investigator and cop. In police work it's called a clue when 73000 goes missing. Maybe we can loan Hickman a personality at the meeting as well!
Hickman is probably not a theif. He may be totally arrogant, self absorbed, and slow witted but it's not illegal to be dumb.
What is dec 12? Can anyone advise? I know about dec 5,6.
In reading all these comments I have to ask did the F.O.P. Board sit Fisher down and ask wtf is going on. Did they sit Hickman down. Sounds like someone on the board went to Mike Lewis. I was a member of the F.O.P. years ago and this crap happens all the time. As a matter of fact Vince Conales was just in the paper in Baltimore for same stuff. I did not read he was criminally charged. As a matter of fact I looked at their Web Site and he was re-elected president. I am not saying Fisher is innocent what I am saying is this should have been handled in house and then maybe then a criminal investigation.
If I am not mistaken Lewis quit the F.O.P. when he was elected for Sheriff. It also appears to me without the F.O.P. you would have nothing. Lewis gave his Command staff a 10K raise and gave the rank and file nothing. Lewis did nothing to secure a fair wage or benefits for the deputies. I have heard Fisher stuck his neck out to get you what you needed. It would also appear this guy needs some help from what I am hearing. So you got what you want and then throw he and this Hickman guy to the wolves. You guys are a class act. At least get all the facts. How was anything hidden when at these meetings their has to be a Board report??? With that said the entire board should go down with Fisher. I talked to a family member of his that said he took responsibility for his actions. The rumor is a certain female pushed this issue. Just how close are she and the Sheriff. I heard she made Sgt. in 16 months. Enough said on that. I have to believe he was not liked by Lewis. There has to be more to this story. You guys better get together and get it resolved. Any one of you thinking Lewis is not trying to break the back of the F.O.P. is a fool. You people are handing it to him on a silver platter. I have known Lewis his entire career he is about Mike. The guy utterly worships himself. Why did Lewis leave M.S.P. as a Sgt. and before he could retire. There is much more to the story I was there.
How in the hell did the F.O.P. decide this should be played out in the media . The 100K secured bond on a theft charge should say it all. The immediate press releases by both the Sheriff and State's Attorney. I strongly feel there is huge resentment over that huge contract you guys got.
I also heard Fisher was in Annapolis talking to the Department Of Justice?? This thing is going to get messy. Why is a guy under local charges talking to the D.O.J. I wonder if it has to do with 96% of the motorist stopped by the ACE Team were African Americans. Maybe that is why Lewis left MSP when he did numerous law suits leveled against the State Police over his B.S.
I am best friends with a member Fisher's family. I do not know him well I do plan to reach out to him. The only time I met the guy in Ocean City he had on a shirt that supported the Baltimore Six. That was all I needed to know about him.
I agree with William Clarke. Make him step down or not and pay it back he sure can not pay it if he is in jail. Also why was there an F.O.P. meeting Fisher and Hickman not there. I think some rules have been violated. Looks like Murphy got what she wanted. I know for a fact she hates them both. So I have learned that Murphy voted for Vince Connales who is the State President. If you google it he has been accused of the same thing Fisher is accused of. They actually conducted an internal audit and it was confirmed that he spent huge amounts of money and he just paid it back. Yet she voted for him the word hypocrite comes to mind. He also is a full partner in a medical weed grow. She openly admitted she voted for him. The fact is they were offering Murphy a state board spot as well as Fisher. So did Murphy the new acting President of the local lodge hold a meeting and throw Hickman and Fisher under the bus. Did she do it to save her own ass? Also did she not look at bank statements for over two years. I highly doubt this. Lewis got her named Deputy of the year. None of the rank and file were invited when she got the award. Hmmmmmm wonder what was in that recommendation. Think it was juiced up by one of Mike's commanders. No one understood this award and her recent promotion. Pay for play maybe. Sound familiar Hillary Clinton in the making. She is a power hungry bitch who hated both of those men. Lewis got his girl as the head of the local union I think the entire board needs to be scrapped and a new election had. If this does end up civil I think both men have major a law suit against those that took this type of action. Guilty util proven innocent I thought. I happen to be a member of the lodge and I am voting that it was civil. The way this was handled was totally wrong besides I want the funds back in the account.
Maybe Fisher and Hickman need to hire Lee Clarke he is a damn good attorney. I know Fish hired a guy out of Baltimore and I also heard the rumor he is talking to D.O.J. With what I learned about the State President I just do not know how she thinks this is right. He was re-elected by 30 votes at the State F.O.P. Conf. One of the 30 was Murphy's vote. Guess it is O.K. when you were getting something in turn. I spoke to Fisher and I know he has stepped up and spoke to the investigator. This entire thing is civil. The man can get 5-10 on these charges. It is sickening the F.O.P. let this go public. It embarrassed the entire lodge. Checks and balances people. I also know that Fisher is going to an in treatment facility he can not leave for a couple of months. If he does this Mike Lewis and his cronies will bury him while he is gone. They have destroyed he and Hickman. Without a fair trial. Lewis hated Marty Fisher and that is why he was arrested and put on 100K secured bond that is total bull shit. Hickman is tight with Lewis they travel together hence no suspension,no arrest. That is my two cents.
Joe keep us posted the office is keeping us in the dark
Here are the issues with this loan issue. First, some of the others are right. The money was paid by police officers who serve every day risking their lives. Our money was embezzled. It could have been money spent putting food on our tables. Second, the money was also donated to support the police by the citizens of our community. Granting a loan looks terrible. It implies that it is okay to steal citizens donations. Third, to consider this a loan opens the door for any other board member to embezzle money in the future and if they are not treated the same way it opens the door for civil liability. The next board member that embezzles could sue that he was treated differently and not offered the same loan deal. Fourth both Fisher and Hickman should be banned from membership indefinitely. What they did at the least is unethical. Hickman may have not stolen but it was his responsibility to track expenditures to ensure that embezzlement doesn't occur. If it was caught early enough it might have not come to this tragedy. Finally I agree that Hickman was treated differently because his relationship with the Sheriff. That is evident. Hickman got a paid vacation while Fisher was screwed. Fisher screwed up royally and should face the music but he's a good cop that dedicated his life to protect the citizens of the county. If the loan issue comes to a vote it should be done by secret ballot to all members as well as a vote to ban both indefinitely from membership.
I think it's time the County Executive requires all Volunteer Fire Company does an annual audit and proves to the County where they spent their County Funds. If that isn't done then they lose their County funding. If they continue to miss audits and spending reports then they lose their County funding for the lifetime of their department.
I am a F.O.P member. NOT just over this issue although it was the icing on the cake! If this is not handle properly I will resign from the F.O.P. I will go to a local attorney who I already have spoken with and give him my by weekly payment and he will provide me with the same package our current attorneys provide. Maybe it's time we think about a new organization to represent our bargaining issues? I don't know if the trust will EVER be there again? I am soooo upset and disgusted with all this! I want to quit now but I want to make sure I am making the right decision. Are there any members considering the same ? I have been a member for over 15 YEARS AND IN GOOD STANDING. I will really welcome the feed back. I have a big decision to make.
I don't think it's fair AT ALL that some on this site are beating up on SHERIFF MIKE LEWIS . He had nothing to do with this F.O.P embarrassment !!!! However he is in a position to have to insure it's cleaned up correctly ! He is a cops cop. He doesn't want our local cops to go through this embarrassment ! Let's keep
to the issue at hand !
Did he buy a car or a house when he forgot his credit card? That sure is a lot of$ to be a mistake or a loan. It is a felony charge, not $20.
Mike Lewis is an ass. How was it he built a house bigger than the Colonel of the State Police when Mikey was still a boot Trooper. I guess you will all say he saved up his money lol Ask mike about his felony insurance fraud. You can ask his former neighbor about it. Fellow Trooper now Chief Mike Phillips. Mike is a crook. The unarmed black guy he shot and killed on the by pass. No dope was was found at the scene. The car goes to the barrack and poof dope is found. Just happens to be the same weight missing from MSP property room at a later date. Three Troopers should have been charged. Lewis is a racist dirt bag and he has no right cleaning up the F.O.P. The F.O.P. needs to be cleaning up their own mess. As MD Babe Bubble Licous whatever he calls himself now. That man has an identity crisis is he related to the white chick that told everyone she was black with NAACP.
Mike is a narcissistic little man he and J. Murphy were made for one another. They could be the new Hillary and Bill Clinton.
I am voting civil. F- Lewis he has done nothing for the troops. Just himself.
Oh by the way Murphy lived with a convicted drug trafficker and was living with him when she got hired at the Sheriff's Office. Guess who did her back ground. If you said babe Wilson you win the booby prize.
With all the debauchery going on , how does this department have time to enforce the laws? Sleeping around,stealing and gambling addictions a plenty,but how and when is actual police work being done?
You are a tool. I guess you didn't know that Mike's family are all contractors. What is the biggest cost of a house? Labor. If you eliminate that, and just have to pay for materials, it isn't very expensive at all to build a large house. But, don't let facts or truth get in the way of your agenda. Mike is a great sheriff.
The actual work is being done by the State Police.
Yes, now Leone has plenty of time to scissor Pardoe
First and foremost anyone that IS a current member of this chapter FOP should quit. To have the arrogance to even offer an option of making this a loan speaks volumes of the character, integtity, and mindset of your elected officials. Second it was mentioned in an earlier post there is such a fine line your walking as a protector of the law that there are very few that are able to prevent tgenselves from actually becoming what they set out to fight. As far as LEWIS this whole thing stinks of "smoking mirrors". He immediately chose his side of the battle deferred ALL attention on Mr. Fisher and as usual is hiding behind his sheriffs status and loud talk. I guarantee if he were to be investigated for ethic violations there are plenty of young ladies in the area that could provide some pretty interesting details along with some of the gambling establishments. These guys actually become worse than the ones their chasing, their doing the exact same crime yet think their above prosecution. I would live to hear some of the stories connected to WCSO involvement in Baltimore when they were so called helping fight the riots.
No, the actual work is being done by Lee Stevens!!
You do not have all the facts, and your donation is appreciated and its use is for the betterment of policing in multiple agencies. Political differences and vendettas have no place in a court room. The Lodge did what it had to do to secure its member benefits that are not always seen by anyone outside. Everyone was shocked by the election but a parity dogfight has been going on seams, like forever and it was partially eliminated by the President of the Lodge. The Vendetta was never Marty anyway he was a short time answer to make sure Hickman didn't have a shot at it. Look no further than who filed the complaint.
Not semantics, there are loan provisions in every FOP Lodge. It just has to be paid back and no interest is to be assessed. The by-laws decide if by vote or treasurer this is accomplished.
Well I took the time to read all of these comments. It would appear that some in house cleaning should have done over two years ago by what I have read. It also appears that a member of said board went outside of the shop. I take it the F.O.P. on the Sheriff's Office side of things is a union. Points to ponder. Once you pay the dues they are then the property of the F.O.P. They no longer belong to the union member. It is not as if you can withdraw the due once paid to the F.O.P. So the question is did the the said F.O.P. file the criminal charges or was the investigation initiated by the Sheriff of the County. If the Treasurer and the President had an agreement the money was to be paid back then this matter is absolutely a civil matter as concerning as that is. Who is the exact victim listed in the criminal information. I will also submit to you the bond paled on Fisher and only Fisher appears egregious. Somebody wanted head lines and they got them. I looked at case search it appears he has one charge of theft over 10,000. Could this act be the result of a very lucrative contract recently signed.
With that said the cat is out of the bag and it appears Fisher is holding it. No one else saw this act or reported it to the F.O.P. until last month. I have a big issue with with this. As for members that want quit and the public stating they will no longer donate to the F.O.P. that would not concern me. I would however have to question every Board members competence.
The question still lingers has the Board loaned money to members in the past without a majority vote or was it strictly decided among the Board.
With today's electronic report by banks was a flag not raised by your bank and if not why?
I just find it hard to believe the Treasurer and the President thought for one minute they were in criminal violation. This type of things happens in Fraternal Organizations more often then it should.
Also was Fisher good President other than this matter. I am in no way saying he should skate but jail certainly appears harsh. I take it the State F.O.P. wants it's money back. The local lodge wants their money back. I can assure you if Fisher goes to jail you will never recover one red cent. If I were a member i would have to hold each and every board member accountable.
I also took the time to research the issues surrounding the State President recently re-elected. As I understand it he used funds to support a mistress. He spent monies on numerous personal items. If in fact this Murphy did vote for him and she then tries to hang Hickman and Fisher but not herself. I find that disturbing on many levels.
I do not have a dog in this race. I will say the waters are muddy and the attorneys representing all sides in this matter need to meet and resolve this prior to a judge having to wade through this quagmire of bull shit and innuendo.
Numerous post stated that Hickman and Fisher have co-operated with an investigator involved in this matter. In light of this Fisher is charged. Hickman I am not sure as to his status. Is he suspended or charged? Oddly enough no other Board members are named in the press or on the local Blogs other than Fisher,Hickman and Murphy. In one post it stated Murphy went to Acting President. I would say a strong set of checks and balances need to be in place in the future. Also handle the issue internally first then seek charges.
As stated by Lee Clarke this should be a civil matter at best. Madam State's Attorney it surly appears you have an ax to grind with Fisher. I did read in a prior post you may or may not have interfered with an criminal matter involving a family member. I would hope that is rhetoric for your sake. Lastly stop bashing your Sheriff and the F.O.P. Board in public. You sound like children. Odd how a little adversity causes one to act irrationally. Joe thanks for the venue to vent.
Excellent statement. Too many hillbilly haters on here that don't know how to do research or think things thru.
Can the honest and hard working citizens of this county believe we have these immature, small, obviously over tasked, boys and girls policing our community?
It this acceptable to the "average" hard working, tax paying mature adults of this county?
These LE "officers" are an embarassment.
What say you?
If you want to get a real perspective of what our county and its law enforcement agency look like go ask any of the agency's on the western shore about Mike LEWIS and WCSO, guarantee you won't get too many positive constructive responses
Regardless of the reason, if found guilty, remember, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
I believe that assessment and collection of police union dues is a compulsory requirement. Remember - Maryland is not a right-to-work state and thus union dues are to be withheld irregardless of an individuals preference. That's one of the downsides to living in blue states - ie. Maryland, New York, New Jersey, CA among
others.
If someone disagrees with you than you create a hate label and call the haters to dehumanize.
There is no such word as irregardless. The word is simply "regardless".
I would be more concerned in how a topic like this or any other turn into racism. I am sick to death of that crap. I guess the man in the moon has been black all these years. Don't worry about 73 large, worry about getting society shaped up.
Joe - it looks as though there is an idiot as 12:00 Poster says there is no such word as irregardless.
Yes there is - I heard Trump use it last night:
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose.
Marty was president because he had the gift to gab or BS. He was having an affair with Murphy (then Hill) for years. Murphy doesn't hate Marty. Hickman has always and will always be a dick. So many people hate him. Due to Hickman's lazy nature he didn't do anything to check the financial records and Marty took advantage of that and stole over 70,000. Both are at fault and both should be dealt with.
Sounds like Marty may have a cell partner.
MAN O MAN, it's hard to tell what all will come out before this is over. One thing about it, you guys are leaving little to the imagination! I wouldn't have believed so much went on with our men and women in BLUE! You guys and gals are something else! I would be so embarrassed if my boss was reading all these things about me! Let alone having to go back to work and face him or her! WOW!
With the money these deputies make, they'd be crazy to jeopardize their jobs by stealing, what an idiot.
3:46....... You mean with the money these SGT'S make. They make a lot more than deputies. They are supervisors.
Idiot comes to mind!
Not really sure what agencies you have spoke to, but Mike Lewis is paid big bucks to speak all over the country including across the bridge. Not tooting his horn but there are a lot of hard working men and women at WCSO that just go to work and do their jobs and do them well.
The money they make?!? Maybe as a Sgt., but all the other deputies are still getting caught up on raised that have been owed to them back from when Nelms ran that joint, believe me they are not sitting high on hog unless they are one of Mike's "bunkies", he gave each one a 10K a year raise...they do paperwork people!!! All the deputies doing their job everyday get shit on, I personally will be glad when Mike is gone.
6:03 What do you consider "big bucks"?
Bunkies???. Who???I am confused.
"He is a fine individual and a good cop" Allegedly!
What are you smoking?
Fisher will never do a day in jail. That i am sure of. I know him very well and the man has not been right in years. I was like his brother prior to him getting sick. When he recovered from it he became even more of a loner. I lost contact with him. He just did not have that kid like behavior he used to have. I know he did say Mike Lewis was after him. He never smiled or made jokes. He shut down a Fantasy Football league we had for years. There was just something not right with him. I heard on this Blog he has some kind of cancer. Does anyone know this for sure. I knew his dad has it. I never heard he had it. Like I said he was different after getting sick. What I do know if you are his friend he would die for you. I never understood why he never got promoted I read his name in the paper all the time for that child sex crime unit he worked for. Who knows i will say all of you bashing him should be ashamed. I know for a fact you would not do it to his face. He did tell me once that some of the guys were giving each other the high five when almost died in the hospital. He also told me one day i will kill those mother f**ckers. I think he meant it. lol
So word to the wise I know him he well. He will take his beating over this but running his family down or just flat out lying on him is a bad idea. If he is in fact a short timer what are you people thinking a man with nothing to lose is a dangerous animal.
Fish if you are reading this call me I could not reach you.
Chad.
Lee is not half black lmao. Wow. Some people just know every damn thing.
I like Fisher also. He was a good cop, did his job, and worked for years investigating child sex crimes. A job a lot of cops couldn't do. It probably took their toll on him unfortunately. Hickman is a tool. Did nothing his entire career.
I don't know Fisher but from what I've read he's done much more good in this world than bad. Perhaps an illness has caused this change in behavior. It seems to me he deserves the benefit of the doubt on that matter. With all the vile crap the police have to deal with this happens more than people know. Most cops keep it concealed. Being on the job affects you more than you know and with all the mud slinging going on recently towards cops and homicidal targeting of the police, that affects you as well. Police try to keep a tough facade but deep down it affects you. Who know what the truth is regarding this at this point but it seems people are awfully quick to cast stones.
So if Fisher was paying it back is that not a loan. I don't even think this is a civil matter. The more I read all this bull this man and Hickman have been wrongfully prosecuted. Fisher's attorney needs to ask for change of venue. The egregious amount of bond that was originally placed on Fisher is highly concerning. Someone outside the union obviously wants Fisher to hang. As I read it the Treasurer and Vice President are still working. Something is wrong here. This has Lying Mike written all over it. A knee jerk response to something he had no business in. If this Murphy was V.P. how is she skating on this thing?? Hickman and Fisher must have been the only two at every meeting held by the F.O.P. if you apply the logic being used here. Was there not a treasury report given at every meeting. I take Fisher was re-elected recently. Hickman was elected V.P. This just sounds off. So did Fisher have this new term to pay off whatever debt he owed?? It does not appear Fisher and Hickman are friends I have not read that in a single post. What the hell is up here? My understanding of this is that Fisher and Hickman once informed of an investigation did not lawyer up. Come on people these two are cops if they were criminally responsible they would have sought counsel the same day.
I guess everyone wins on this one. Mike Lewis hates Fisher he is gone. Murphy gets President something she has wanted for years. Murphy despises Hickman I am told he has sure taking an ass whipping over this. Hickman being a Deputy that travels on vacations with Mike Lewis stays on duty. I know Mike well is he doing Murphy ?? Marty Fisher the only one with the balls to stand up to Lewis will take a direct hit. I feel the entire board knew what was going on. Just my two cents.
WOW
If the FOP wants to recover any trust with the troops this is what has to happen:
A copy of the two year audit needs to be handed out at the next meeting. NOT READ!
Enough copies so everyone can have one.
The Criminal investigator needs to come and meet with us victims.
The states attorney needs to be invited.
A copy of the latest contract needs to be handed out. Enough for everyone to have and take home.
No more secrecy "full disclosure".
I don't think it can happen but if there is ANY hope of repairing the FOP there must be full disclosure of anything and everything regardless of the reason to keep something a secrete, it's about the FOP'S survival now.
The FOP body must know all !!!
I am a police officer, let's use this site joe provides us and see how many FOP members agree with me. If not much of a response then you just told the board " things are good like they are" .
And that my friends is the best post so far!
Nothing can be resolved here. The entire membership needs to show up for the next meeting.
I think it is time to stop posting on this matter. Go direct with the people involved face to face. I have no trust in the FOP Board and that goes for all of them. We will get our pound of flesh. I talked to Marty almost everyday before he was suspended. I was worried about him so I went to his house. He talked openly about all of this. He said only three people have called him and he told them all what happened. That was two weeks after he was suspended since then I have not been able to reach him. Sadly I do see him ever going to court. I think he will be his own judge and jury and that is sad. I hope he is getting some help. Fish if you are reading this please get some help. Your life is worth more than money. You are in my prayers every night dude.
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