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Sunday, October 20, 2019
A Viewer Writes.....10-18-19
Why do we have 35,286 soldiers in Germany when they don't pay their bill? WE Need to bring them HOME!
25 comments:
Anonymous
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Because they are there to protect our interests in the world as much if not more than Germany’s interests. Our bases in Germany provide critical infrastructure to support our missions all over the world.
Northwest Woodsman: The reason is that we need a safe and comfortable place for REMFs (Rear Echelon Mother F$&#@*s) to hide out and avoid combat. Not that I blame them, I would do my best to avoid combat too if given a choice. I wasn’t, however! During the Vietnam era, there were soldiers of all ranks stationed in Germany and successfully avoided a Vietnam assignment. I swear, that when the army came out with new uniform regulations in the early 80s that did not allow wear of badges to medals on the uniform shirt that was most frequently worn, it was because those who had avoided combat had no combat ribbons/medals, decorations and they were embarrassed by those of us displaying Silver Stars, Bronze Stars, Distinguished Flying Crosses, Air Medals, and Purple Hearts. The army claimed that affixing those awards punched little holes in the shirt fabric. Funny though, it had never been a problem prior to that era and none of the other services had that problem. I’ll bet some colonel’s or general’s wife was behind that policy because she didn’t want her spouse’s lack of combat awards to expose him.
It's called Global Security. Imagine having no troops close to your enemies for a fast response. Warfare is instantaneous now, there's no time for lofty and lengthy troop movements. No offense, but it isn't as simple as paying a bill or not.
The military works for those who run the government on behalf of the corporations the government protects. It did a great job acquiring access to the poppies in Afghanistan.
I agree with everything said but let's be realistic here, WAR IS BIG BUSINESS and will never go away due to man's desire to control the world's resources
11:35, so just abandon all those bases and their contents so anyone else can just walk in, take them over , then start an international crisis while we stand at our southern border with our pants down around our ankles?
“Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense.
“We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, 3½ million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.
“Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.” President Eisenhower, January 1961.
Northwest Woodsman: I don't understand what you're saying about wearing badges - we wore all authorized ribbons on the Class A and B uniforms in the 80's. Two tours in RVN and later Senior Drill Sgt and 1SG in the early 80's. Retired SGM in '88. Always wore ribbons.
If you have no idea what they face on their borders, don't comment on what you don't know. The cold war still exists, and Germany faces a much more powerful foe that they can defend against. I spent two years in Germany, and I know who the enemy is. With our troops there, we can help deter an attack by their enemies, AND we can help insure Germany doesn't EVER misbehave like they did in WWI & WWII. Syrian peace is not our problem, but European peace is definitely in our interest. Perhaps the viewer forgets, or does not pay attention to history, and doesn't realize the cost of hundreds of thousands American lives to bring peace to the continent. Our troops are not dying there, and they won't as long as they ARE there.
25 comments:
Because they are there to protect our interests in the world as much if not more than Germany’s interests. Our bases in Germany provide critical infrastructure to support our missions all over the world.
Hopefully, those costs are deducted from what we 'pay' the UN.....
If we didn't have that many US troops in Germany, Germany would've started WWIII by now. It's just what Germany does.
Northwest Woodsman: The reason is that we need a safe and comfortable place for REMFs (Rear Echelon Mother F$&#@*s) to hide out and avoid combat. Not that I blame them, I would do my best to avoid combat too if given a choice. I wasn’t, however! During the Vietnam era, there were soldiers of all ranks stationed in Germany and successfully avoided a Vietnam assignment. I swear, that when the army came out with new uniform regulations in the early 80s that did not allow wear of badges to medals on the uniform shirt that was most frequently worn, it was because those who had avoided combat had no combat ribbons/medals, decorations and they were embarrassed by those of us displaying Silver Stars, Bronze Stars, Distinguished Flying Crosses, Air Medals, and Purple Hearts. The army claimed that affixing those awards punched little holes in the shirt fabric. Funny though, it had never been a problem prior to that era and none of the other services had that problem. I’ll bet some colonel’s or general’s wife was behind that policy because she didn’t want her spouse’s lack of combat awards to expose him.
Because having allies benefits us. If we don't, someone else will. Who do you think that will be? When it wasn't us... who was it?
How quickly we forget.
It's called Global Security. Imagine having no troops close to your enemies for a fast response. Warfare is instantaneous now, there's no time for lofty and lengthy troop movements. No offense, but it isn't as simple as paying a bill or not.
Totally agree, bring them home and put them on the southern border.
Who are “We”?
The military works for those who run the government on behalf of the corporations the government protects. It did a great job acquiring access to the poppies in Afghanistan.
I agree with everything said but let's be realistic here, WAR IS BIG BUSINESS and will never go away due to man's desire to control the world's resources
11:35, so just abandon all those bases and their contents so anyone else can just walk in, take them over , then start an international crisis while we stand at our southern border with our pants down around our ankles?
What a genius you are! /sarc off.
Well said facts.
It's no wonder this country is going down the drain when you can't understand why it's necessary to have a global military presence..
Y not we do it all the time.
Protecting countries that hate us and don't pay there share of the bill. F EM BRING OUR BOYS HOME.
Easy for you to say sitting in Delaware uh??
Why don't other countries have bases in the United States?
Asking for a friend.
The commenters seem to think the military protects “us” or “we” or “the people, citizens”.
This each of you demonstrate that you know nothing about reality. You are like young children. Idiots.
“Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense.
“We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, 3½ million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.
“Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”
President Eisenhower, January 1961.
TRUMP BRING THEM HOME.
Northwest Woodsman: I don't understand what you're saying about wearing badges - we wore all authorized ribbons on the Class A and B uniforms in the 80's. Two tours in RVN and later Senior Drill Sgt and 1SG in the early 80's. Retired SGM in '88. Always wore ribbons.
Do you want to fight the enemy there or here . You decide!
Because the United States is the world power, we don't need their protection. The second amendment is keeping us free
10:06
By your question it is obvious that you don’t know who is the enemy.
If you have no idea what they face on their borders, don't comment on what you don't know. The cold war still exists, and Germany faces a much more powerful foe that they can defend against. I spent two years in Germany, and I know who the enemy is. With our troops there, we can help deter an attack by their enemies, AND we can help insure Germany doesn't EVER misbehave like they did in WWI & WWII. Syrian peace is not our problem, but European peace is definitely in our interest. Perhaps the viewer forgets, or does not pay attention to history, and doesn't realize the cost of hundreds of thousands American lives to bring peace to the continent. Our troops are not dying there, and they won't as long as they ARE there.
October 18, 2019 at 11:16 AM:
Man, you need to quit drinking so early in the day.
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