More people than that are killed every day. 4 times as many are killed with knives than with ANY rifle. Talk is cheap, laws are useless.
People wanted freedom FROM religion instead of freedom OF religion. Everything has to be PC. Free speech, free speech, free speech. With no repercussions.
No discipline for kids. Heck, most times only one parent in the house with kids. Racism this, racism that. You hurt my feelings. I am right, you are wrong.
We kicked God out of schools (and just about everything else) what did you think would take His place?
You want people to be kind? Be kind to people, even when they are NOT kind to you. THAT would be real change. And change everyone will benefit from.
Too simple right? No. Too hard, which is why most will not do it.
And the killings will continue.
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AMEN !
My sympathies to the families of all the school shootings. of course. But all I saw in the White House listening session yesterday were alot of very rich parents from very well off America, likely living in gated communities in Florida and elsewhere..
Why were their not African Americans and other races represented? From Chicago, Baltimore, L.A., ? Where 17 people getting killed a week is the low end, if those people are lucky?
It was sickening to see and I saw the entire thing as a dog and pony show.
A couple of things wrong here, and some things very right.
First, there are not mass knife killings in schools. I AM a 2nd amendment supporting gun owner, but it's hard to argue with the facts. Places where there are stricter gun laws and or bans on guns these kinds of killings are rare to almost never.
Second, God has NOT been removed from schools. In fact, I think the only thing not allowed is compulsory school led participation in prayer/religious activities.
I mean, if your kids were subject to a Muslim call to prayer I'm sure you wouldn't be so comfortable with it. In fact, "god" or "religious" folks actually get special exemptions from school related activities or classes that other students wouldn't have because of their faith.
I don't think saying "god is not allowed in schools" is a really accurate way to say what is really meant by saying that. I think, imho, people saying this mean "We no longer get to indoctrinate children to our brand of religiosity".
People can still wear religious clothing, have bible clubs (or really any religious club for that matter), flag pole prayers... really anyone can pray at any time.
In fact, The Gospel Coalition "Know your rights in a public school" that outlines all of the ways God is still in public schools.
If you can read what they outline, and still claim "God isn't allowed in public schools" then I must be really confused on the subject, or not really understand what the true meaning and intent of what that oft spoken phrase really means.
Third, with 71% of the Country being Christian, 6% being other faiths... that only leaves 23% at agnostic or atheist. So the "from" religion vs "of" doesn't really ring very valid either. In fact, as an atheist myself I would support and fight for your "of" religion. I think you would find most non-believers would too...it's a freedom thing. Also, don't confuse or misrepresent my position. I simply don't want your religion shoved down my throat, and don't want public policy formed on a religious basis.
Lastly, being kind and understanding of one another is EXACTLY what we need. To find common ground. I think if we stripped away all the noise, we would find MOST Americans want the same things, and we are more similar than we are different.
We hear you. However, the killing goes on because of folks like you. It is time for the violence in America to STOP. If this generation of children want to stand up and voice their opinion about the loopidy loop laws concerning gun laws, then allow them the freedom of the First Amendment Rights that was offered to us as adults. The killing of children in school is almost like genocide. What in world does an eighteen year person need with an assault weapon that can kill massive groups of people. This country with it's documented history of violence from day one need to ban all assault weapons from civilians. We need to conduct background checks on everyone who want to purchase a gun. And, all persons involved in mass shooting of this magnitude, should be considered for the death penalty. This is the only way that this government can send a very clear message that this kind of violence is unacceptable. I hope that these children continue their fight until the laws in this country concerning the freely use of an assault weapon is Banned. We can not continue to allow a racist or non racist person(s)of every color, creed, ages, religion and sexual preferences who may or may not be a crazy azz gun totting teenager or an adult purchase an assault weapon then used that weapon to MURDER law abiding infants, children and adults in schools, churches, clubs and or out in the open festive events. This has to stop. And, I agree, Enough is Enough.
The United States of America is no longer a nation of Cowboys and Indians O. K. Corral Era. Come on people, we need to support these children and elect representative that are going to make America safe. Not great but safe.
First off it is not insensitive, no more insensitive than these knucklehead kids not even taking the time to morn, not given the time to morn and go directly into more gun control... That is why nothing is being done about any of these shootings but until after the fact, as usual, becasue it doesn't fit their anti-gun agenda...
Do you all see that pattern yet??? Shooting, more gun control, shooting, more gun control, apparently more gun control laws are not going to work if the 1st thousand bills we already have on the books are not fixing the problem, what makes you think one more bill will????
Also did you hear that fake crying the kid did when he met trump??? Talking about how someone can buy a gun and leave the store in 5 minutes???? That is disingenuous!!!! Do you hear the need for more background checks??? We already have that, and if it doesn't work currently, then what makes you all think more background checks will work, when they already do background checks...
What is more funny about all of this is as follows, instead of looking into why the police and FBI didn't investigate this kid before the shooting all the while they had evidence to prove he might do something like this and just let him do it, instead of looking at that, fixing that, the answer to these knuckle head sis more gun control that didn't work in the first place... What good is a law if the law enforcement doesn't enforce the law???
You people focus your time, money, anger or anything else at the wrong people every single time... Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and when guns are 100% banned, and people start using cars to kill someone, are you going to ban them to???
You people are so obtuse...
Then if you look below, you have an article that says "Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice (NIJ) reported that the ban could not be credited with any reduction in crime."
Which means the federal assault weapons ban does not and did not reduce any crime what so ever... SO what does that tell you...
In the past 6 years there have been 138 deaths attributed to school shootings.
During the same time there have been over 25,000 teen suicides and 2.5 million suicide attempts attributed to bullying, the vast majority of which are related to social media.
Be appalled by the school shootings. Be that much more appalled at Mark Zuckerberg getting rich while your kids die. He is exponentially more lethal than the NRA.
Ban assault rifles and save a few dozen lives, if you want. But destroy social media if you want to actually save tens of thousands of lives. And I bet the same kids demanding action on assault rifles would NEVER give up their social media, no matter how many lives it would save.
9:26- looks like grandpa is backed up again! Better up the increase of Metamucil because you get so angry when you cut short.
I AM a gun owner, and a second amendment supporter.
It's just hard to argue with the facts. Australia has a mass shooting in 1996, then they ban most guns, and have extreme approvals for getting one for a legitimate reason.
Since then suicides by gun are dramatically down (stands to reason, less guns, but suicide rates in general are down.
Homicide violence by gun is dramatically down (stands to reason, less guns), but surprisingly "homicide" of any kind is down +/- 50 % since 1996.
Also, NO MASS SHOOTINGS since 1996.
I would be hard pressed to give up my arms willingly, but facts and evidence can't be ignored, and it doesn't matter if I don't like the facts. We is true is true, irrelevant of how I feel about it.
It is sad to know that this country is full of NRA Terrorist supporters who love their guns and can afford to purchase assault weapons. Can someone please explain to me why a civilian or civilians and not law enforcement and active duty military personal need an assault weapon on the streets of America? This is too crazy for me.
I AM a gun owner, and a second amendment supporter.
It's just hard to argue with the facts. Australia has a mass shooting in 1996, then they ban most guns, and have extreme approvals for getting one for a legitimate reason.
Since then suicides by gun are dramatically down (stands to reason, less guns, but suicide rates in general are down.
Homicide violence by gun is dramatically down (stands to reason, less guns), but surprisingly "homicide" of any kind is down +/- 50 % since 1996.
Also, NO MASS SHOOTINGS since 1996.
I would be hard pressed to give up my arms willingly, but facts and evidence can't be ignored, and it doesn't matter if I don't like the facts. What is true is true, irrelevant of how I feel about it.
9:12....look up "disingenuous". He writes 10 paragraphs on gun issues, but devotes seven of them to ranting about God. He hates the idea that people actually believe in something he can't understand. And he hates the idea that he can't do anything about it.
LOL.
Or read what 9:10 wrote. He was closer to the truth.
Rich white people get to go to the White House to be heard. They get to cry on TV about their pain.
FOUR THOUSAND black mothers and fathers (just last year) NEVER got an invitation. In Chicago, where guns laws mimic those of China, 17 people get killed every WEEK. I haven't heard a lot of moaning and crying over THAT and I wonder where all the white angst over guns is when that is reported.
There are 300 million guns (say that to yourself again) in the USA. Which one of you crying, offended, presumptuous, and self-righteous "2ND Amendment supporters" are going to come and take them?
There are 330 million people in this country. A FEW get a gun and shoot people and now, despite thousands of laws restricting the sale, use, possession of guns, some of you loser crybabies DEMAND that we make some MORE LAWS. You have exceeded your stupidity allotment for the year.
Oh.
YOU aren't coming to take them? You want SOMEONE ELSE to do it? That's what I thought.
Millions upon millions of Americans (read THAT again, too) have multiple weapons and have never shot, robbed, or killed anyone.
New laws are going to do what???
Make us safer??? LOL.
Just carry your own gun.
Like millions already do.
You don't need "permission".
@9:24
Please know what you are talking about before you post. Use FACTS not your opinion. An AR-15 is not an assault weapon. The "A" in AR does not stand for assault! It stand for ArmaLite Rifle after the company that developed it in the 1950's, don't believe it, google it. An AR-15 is not an assault rifle, or an assault weapon. An assault weapon is a fully automatic machine gun. Don't believe it, google it.
Next, "assault" is an action, you can't hold it in your hand.
@10:51
Ahh... Imclain. I can always count on you to bring the ad hominem and the strawen logical fallacies.
You may wanna revisit the ORIGINAL post everyone is replying to, the one on the main page. It was those points raised there that 9:12 was responding to.
I think it's important that we understand each other, and equally don't misrepresent one another. It benefits us all to believe as many true things, and disregard as many false things as possible.
To do so requires civil discourse and communication. I'm sure "number of paragraphs" isn't a metric that is relevant.
Hey, while you are in the mood to visit relevant statistics to the topic, how about you check out Anon 10:44 stats about Australia?
Sorry, I don't buy the statement that knives kill more than guns. People don't want to use a knife as a weapon because you have to get very close to the the victim (which makes it easier for a struggle for the weapon) and it makes a mess with all the blood on you. With guns, they can be at a much farther distance from the victim and not worry about a struggle or the mess and then they can just run away from the scene of the crime.
You may wanna revisit the ORIGINAL post everyone is replying to, the one on the main page. It was those points raised there that 9:12 was responding to.
I think it's important that we understand each other, and equally don't misrepresent one another. It benefits us all to believe as many true things, and disregard as many false things as possible.
To do so requires civil discourse and communication. I'm sure "number of paragraphs" isn't a metric that is relevant.
Hey, while you are in the mood to visit relevant statistics to the topic, how about you check out Anon 10:44 stats about Australia?
February 22, 2018, at 11:20 AM
912 went off on a tangent to further his own agenda and detract from the original poster.
Austrailia has a population of about 25-26 million people. It has more kangaroos than people. Australia is the only Western country in the world to not have a Bill of Rights.
In 1975, Australia had a government shutdown, which ended with the Queen firing everyone and the government starting again. You are required to show up to vote in Australia. If you don't, you'll face a fine. The Church of Scientology runs a child labor camp in Australia. Australia's first police force was composed of the best-behaved convicts.
Austrailia does not have our 2nd amendment nor does it have ANY bill of rights. Their gun confiscation may have worked for them but it wouldn't fly here.
Now lets look at the flip side of this conversation. A lot of people (if not most) who live in the country (you know, outside the cities and burbs), own and use rifles every year to hunt. The majority of these people eat what they shoot. In a lot of areas, schools are closed for the first day or week of hunting season. Many school children go hunting with their parents (usually fathers) and learn to properly handle weapons safely.
Without hunting, we would be overrun with deer and a lot more people would be killed and maimed in auto accidents involving deer.
DO YOU REALLY THINK IT IS PRACTICAL TO TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM EVERYONE !!!
"A society that celebrates Violence and Aggression, whether on the sports field, or in the business sector, and makes Hero's of these people, is doomed to continue".
Roman Philosopher talking about the Roman Empire, we are doing the same thing.
Almost every Rap song is about violence, sports figures are always in trouble with the law, business owners embroiled in scandals, theft, and deceit, are lauded as "Successful". Politicians, lie, cheat, steal, and they too are held up as a type of hero.
Until we condemn these people and their behaviour, we will be the next empire to collapse.
Thank you 11:11 AM, you beat me to it. But hey, you guys need to look up the AR-670-1, now that is a mean mutha there!! Everybody should have one.
@12:58
Anon 9:12 corrected egregious errors in the original post, this is not furthering an agenda, it is clearing up the facts. Misinformation should always be challenged and corrected. If it is not, then it is incorrectly parroted forever.
Also, I concede all of your info about Australia... and it is absolutely irrelevant to how Australia stopped gun violence, reduced crime, homicides, suicides, and mass shootings. They could all be sneeches with no stars on their bellies too... and it would have ZERO bearing on how they solved gun violence crime.
It seems the tangent to the conversation, is the erroneous irrelevant red herrings about Australia that have nothing to do with guns, gun violence, or how a country unequivocally helped solve a tough issue.
Don't confuse what I'm saying... I'm not saying this is the answer, I AM a gun owner.. I DO support the 2nd Amendment.... but what Australia did worked, and I think it directly refutes the idea that removing guns won't solve the problem.
You can tell who the anti-gun communist are because they start their post with...im a 2A supporter and gun owner blah blah blah...then more lies.
Australia didn’t have an already heavily armed structural underclass. The United States does. It also doesn’t have land borders with countries who would be complicit in smuggling in illegal guns. The United States does.
I am so sick of hearing about 2nd Amendment rights...okay we get it. People can go on and on about how it is their constitutional right to own a gun, but the fact is that people are dying, KIDS are dying. And something needs to be done about it. Why is your "right" to own a gun more important or more valuable than the lives of our children? I am all about maintaining our rights as American citizens, but it has gotten to a point where we are allowing lives to be put at risk and we need to make a change for the good of our country.
Anon 9:12 corrected egregious errors in the original post, this is not furthering an agenda, it is clearing up the facts. Misinformation should always be challenged and corrected. If it is not, then it is incorrectly parroted forever.
As recently as 2015 an Fla. school board banned the dist. of the Bible, after it was allowed for several years because an atheist group sued to have its own material dist. next to it.
Technically you are correct in that the Bible is allowed in schools, and is allowed to be studied akin to a history book, literary work, etc. So long as worship, prayer, etc., is not included. That was the original intent of the poster, as I am sure you are quite aware.
Slick little devil you.
People are funny. They think that the people who ignore one law will suddenly obey another law. It's already against the law to murder anyone. You think that by restricting one persons' rights will have any bearing of what another chooses to do? The only way to ensure no one will ever get shot is to remove all firearms. That will never happen, nor should it.
Gun-free zones don't work. Like any law, you need enforcement to obtain compliance. As we have seen time and time again, some will not obey. Words on a sign are of no importance no matter how stern. Anticipate the threat and have the ability to remove the threat. Rather simple I would have thought.
@11:22
Ahh.. but that's not what the original post said, now was it?
The post said that "we kicked God out of schools". Not only is that not an accurate representation of the facts, but the Gospel Coalition also disagrees with this misinformation.
Lets clear this up another way.
Let me concede to you your point and assume for a minute we DID in fact "kick God out of school". For the sake of argument, lets say I give you this. "God" is most certainly NOT kicked out of Churches, now is he?
In fact, that would certainly be his house I would assume... yet children still get molested by church officials, now don't they? Parishioners still get divorced, there are scandals of affairs, and indeed there are shootings in Churches! The late Billy Graham actually wrote an article about shootings in churches.... citing it domestic abuse as the culprit.
But there his is still, right? God in his church.
The "taking god out of schools" or "we don't allow god in schools" is verifiably and demonstrably not true, and can be refuted as an invalid argument.
So lets just stop this, and start working towards things that will start saving children's lives.
I know that "gun free" zones are a joke, and also are a demonstrable failure. Partial bans on weapons are a failure. Punishing law abiding citizens and removing weapons from them also makes no sense.
But it's important that we focus on what works, and what is relevant.
Lets tune out the unnecessary noise and baggage everyone wants to hang on this. Christians need to get over their persecution complex and stop trying to smuggle their brand of religiosity into everything.
February 23, 2018 at 8:28 AM
God has been kicked out of schools for a very long time now. You can twist it any way you want but it won't change the reality. Thankfully, some schools are now talking about bringing Him back into schools in the way of prayers, again. I don't expect an atheist like yourself to agree with this since you wouldn't know if God was around or not. And I just love your persecution complex quip. You really don't have a clue or you just choose to ignore it. Talking about this with you is an exercise in futility but it is still the polite thing to do.
@12:34
God has not in any way been kicked out of anything. People have always been able to, and still are able to, pray in school. Compulsory participation in government led prayer/religion is what is in violation of the Constitution and is inappropriate.
Flag pole prayers, after school bible study groups, religious songs at holidays, removing your kids from classes because your religion disagrees with the science curriculum - a short list of how "God" is still in schools.
May be, we should try something different. May be, you can be more specific by what you mean by "god has been kicked out of school" because that is demonstrably false and just not true.
It would be better, and probably help the conversation and understanding of each other, if you could better explain what you mean... Lets say you get a pass to "put god back in school" as it were.... what would that be? what would that look like?
I am happy to admit I'm wrong, but we'll never get there if we don't understand one another. As it stands now, the assertion being made can be deftly refuted.
So I encourage you to paint the picture of what you think it would be, specific changes, that would put a god back in school.
You do realize that mentally ill people wouldn't get "A very clear message" from the government, right? Besides, a very large majority are suicidal and welcome their death. I think that before anything changes, THAT problem needs to be addressed first.
These children demonstrating are supported by anti-Trumper haters. How do you think it was organized so quickly and efficiently. Obama is 2blocks from the WH and all he has to do is send out the order to his 30,000 followers that the fight is on. I believe there is a shadow government and and it isn't pretty.
It is something like you got to have a BMW. You like it. Not against the law just got to have it. That is basically the same.
Where were the parents of the kids on school safety Prior to the shooting ? NOWHERE.
McCollum v. Board of Education, 333 U.S. 203, 212 (1948).
Struck down religious instruction in public schools. The case involved school-sponsored religious instruction in which the sole nonreligious student, Jim McCollum, was placed in detention and persecuted by schoolmates in Champaign, Illinois.
Tudor v. Board of Education of Rutherford, 14 J.N. 31 (1953), cert. denied, 348 U.S. 816 (1954).
Let stand a lower court ruling that the practice of allowing volunteers to distribute Gideon Bibles at public school was unconstitutional.
Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962).
Declared prayers in public school unconstitutional.
Abington Township School District v. Schempp, 374. U.S. 203 (1963).
Declared unconstitutional devotional Bible reading and recitation of the Lord's Prayer in public schools.
Epperson v. Arkansas, 393 U.S., 97, 104 (1968).
Struck down state law forbidding schools to teach the science of evolution.
Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980).
Declared unconstitutional the posting of the Ten Commandments in classrooms.
Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985).
Overturned law requiring daily "period of silence not to exceed one minute . . . for meditation or daily prayer."
Jager v. Douglas County School District, 862 F.2d 824 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 490 U.S. 1090 (1989).
Let stand a lower court ruling in Georgia that pre-game invocations at high school football games are unconstitutional.
Lee v. Weisman, 120 L.E. 2d 467/ 112 S.C.T. 2649 (1992).
Ruled prayers at public school graduations an impermissible establishment of religion.
Berger v. Rensselaer, 982 F.2d, 1160 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 124 L.E. 2d 254 (1993).
Let stand ruling barring access to Gideons to pass out bibles in Indiana schools.
Santa Fe Independent School District v. Doe, 530 U.S. 290 (2000).
Barred student-led prayers at public school functions.
Maybe this helps? I am sorry I am not getting my point across very well, or at least it seems to be the case.
@5:56 PM
In all of those cases do you notice a common theme?
Yes, every single one of those court cases properly applies the establishment clause that there will be no compulsory participation in religious activities by the government, nor shall there be any favoritism toward any religion by the government. Oh, and that SCIENCE should be taught in science class.
However, this in NO way has taken any deity out of schools. Anyone, at any time, can still pray, now can't they? There ARE bible study after school groups (as long as other religions have the same opportunity to form groups), flag pole prayers before school, removing of your children from classes because the parents religion dictates they don't like the subject matter, people CAN bring in their holy texts and read them. Do you understand where the difference is? It's about compelling others into a specific religion or brand of faith. It's about the government choosing favorites between religions.
I hope you understand, that ANYONE can still pray at ANY time in schools? Right?
So no, still as it stands "god" has NOT been kicked out of anything. Were this true, PRAYER of any kind would be banned... but it's not. Anyone can pray when they wish.
IF it were true there would be no religious school clubs of any kind at any time... but that's not true, because these clubs exist.
Were that claim true parents would have no say about what their children are taught, they would have to learn science, but no, that's not true, if you are a young earth creationist you can pull your kids out of class because you can't science.
If your assertion is true, then teachers would not be able to use religious information in an objective manner and teach the Bible for its historical, cultural, or literary value... but that's not true because teachers CAN do this.
Were this true, the pledge of allegiance would be banned because of it's call to God in it, but there they are saying it every single day.
See, I think where you confuse things is that you don't want schools as a house of education, you want it to be Sunday school/worship service of your brand of religiosity. Now if I'm wrong on that please correct me, I don't want to misrepresent you. Why not just say you want our schools to be a church service too?
I may still have this wrong, so as asked before, why not paint a picture of what you think it would look like if "god" were allowed back in school. What would that look like, what do you mean by that?
Great post....facts are facts..and thank you.
Well, maybe instead of focusing on whether or not God is legally allowed in any school or not, it should be focused on whether He is or not. In the majority of schools, I don't believe He is, not in any spiritual sense. Peer pressure, discouragement from teachers/admin, whatever the cases may be. I'm not talking about state-sponsored activities which we all know are not allowed.
And I think that includes society in general also. So much hatred, meanness, lack of empathy, a general lack of love and caring for fellow man.
@12:03 PM
I'm not so sure about society in general either. I think it feels that way because drama is amplified by our media outlets to keep people watching, but I think as a whole society is pretty good to one another.. we can ALWAYS be better, and kinder to each other.
Remember, 70% of America identifies as Christian... if the argument is to put more god back into it to make it better... I dunno how one can claim that society has so much hatred, and lack of empathy. The ideas are at odds and don't jive with the numbers and facts.
I don't know what you mean by God not being allowed in school in a "spiritual sense". I don't know what that means. If he was allowed back in schools as it were... can you describe what that would be? What would that look like? What specifically would be different? You feel god is not allowed in schools... so, if he were... tell me what that would be?
Remember, 70% of America identifies as Christian... if the argument is to put more god back into it to make it better... I dunno how one can claim that society has so much hatred, and lack of empathy. The ideas are at odds and don't jive with the numbers and facts.
February 26, 2018 at 2:26 PM
I am going to answer you one last time and then you can have the last word.
I don't know the percentage of "Christians" in this country, it really doesn't matter a whole lot. People's actions tell the truth, not any label. If you don't think there is a lot of hatred and lack of empathy in society, you have never walked any city street at night or even in daylight in some cases.
The "numbers and facts" have been broadcast almost daily about crime. Chicago seems to be the go-to city for such examples but there are a lot more of them.
And if you don't think to put God in a society would make it better, I don't know what to say to that.
I'm not talking about wearing a cross around one's neck or going to church on Sunday. One has to live the life, not just proclaim they are "Christians".
I guess being you are an atheist it isn't possible for you to see that, or you just will refuse to see it or acknowledge it.
Regardless, I am positive other people know what I am talking about and understand it even if they remain silent. Some will, some won't. That's just the way it is and probably always has been. Some things have to be felt to be "taught".
To use some quotes, "let those with ears hear. And let those with eyes see."
None of this is surprising as it was foretold. That's about all I have to say on the subject. Maybe I failed with you but hopefully, I succeeded with others.
Thanks for the conversations but I am done now. Peace be with you.
@1:06 AM
Thank you for the reply, and civil conversation.
Yes, I am an atheist, and I tend to take people on their word, if they say they are Christian, I'm going to assume they are.
Now, I know it's not uncommon for people to claim the "no true Scotsman" fallacy when it comes to other peoples Christianity. However, that's not my problem.
I can't really tell the difference between two Christians who may claim the other isn't a "true" Christian, as they both will claim that they are, and will both probably make the similar claim that society would be better if there were more "God" in it. It is indistinguishable to me.
If the assumption is that if we put more "God" in to something, that it would get better... I don't know what other metric can be used than population of Christians. If 70% of America is Christian... It should be mostly a pretty safe and kind and generous place (by the way I think that America mostly is as just described, save for small pockets and very small numbers of people in very urban and poor desperate areas of the country LIKE Chicago).
I am from the Baltimore area. I HAVE walked the city streets at night. I HAVE done this not only in Baltimore, but it Salisbury, AND New York City, Philadelphia, DC, not to mention many foreign cities... and yes, there are pockets of dangerous areas, but MOST places are safe, especially in the United States.
To keep on the topic of discussion here, I have asked more than once to outline what "putting God back in schools" would look like, what that would be, and not a single taker on that question.
I guess your look is more of a "put more god back in society"... but I'm not sure what that would be either. Arguably, if you look back through American History, our nation has been strife with problems, Civil War, treatment of Native Americans, Japanese internment camps,Slavery... during times when the population of this nation was arguably more "Christian" than would be found today.
We also live in a time of unprecedented prosperity, safety, overall healthcare... our poorest have refrigeration and cell phones and internet... right? Many Americans in poverty are OVERWEIGHT. This is a new phenomenon, as in all of human history poverty and starvation went hand in hand. Times aren't really bad, now are they? We live in the greatest time to be an American, or a human... EVER in all of human history.
And arguably, there is less "God" in society... or rather less people who identify as religious, but they are STILL outnumbered in a major way.
So if you do so feel inclined, if you think putting "God back in schools" would better for us all.. would you mind saying what that would be, specifically?
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