Hi Mr. Albero.
I am just wondering if you have heard anything about PRMC's plan to lighten up on their strict modification to their visitation policy for the holiday (at the least)? I understand the policy in regards to no children under 18 on the "sick floors", but the Mother/Baby floor is pretty ridiculous. I am going to be having a c-section sometime during the holiday and am hoping and praying that it doesn't happen in the days surrounding Christmas. I must stay there for 3 days and would not be able to see my daughter (who is 4) during that duration. I am also supposed to pick 2 people (one being my husband) to give arm bands to which are nontransferrable. Therefore, I will only be able to chose 1 other person to come see the new baby. How do I pick between my mother and twin sister, let alone the other grandmother??
I'm sorry I am venting to you, but I am hoping if something was mentioned on your site about it or maybe get a response from PRMC about when this policy would end (it was implemented in October due to the peak of H1N1), there will be enough response from other people like me that maybe these policies can be less strict. The nurse's at PRMC come in and out of the mother/baby ward, bringing in their own germs; why make the families, who have been vaccinated due to the newborn, be punished? It's just sad and really too extreme.
I'm asking you to mention something on your site to help me and other moms-to-be out during one of the most memorable and important moments in our lives.
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get over it.. the policy is there for the protection of very sick people... Just deal!
The hospital is a place to rest while the ill and injured get well.
It's nice that you're going to have a baby, but why have a stream of visitors, tracking in street crud and breathing and touching covered with whatever's going around?
They can come to your house to see you and the baby after you leave the hospital, where they can do some good, like bringing a meal or helping to clean up. Enjoy the company of your new child and the two (healthy) people you choose to visit at the hospital. Tell the rest that you appreciate their well-wishes and look forward to seeing them after your brief rest and bonding with your new baby.
Exactly. Be thankful if you have a healthy baby, and enjoy the time together when you get home.
"The nurses at PRMC come in and out of the mother/baby ward, bringing in their own germs..."
Nurses aren't coming from the street between each patient contact. They also wash their hands between each patient contact. They know about mimizing the spread of disease, and know that the more people you have from outside the facility, the more chances there are that a disease like flu or the common cold is going to be spread by coughs, sneezes, dirty hands and contaminated clothes.
Take that memorable moment in your life and share it with a couple of the most important people in your life. Let the rest know ahead of time that you care about them and look forward to seeing them and basking in their love when you and baby get home in a few days.
8:55
I am sorry that you did not have any milk for your cornflakes this morning.
Be more selective of the months you make whoopee!
"The nurses at PRMC come in and out of the mother/baby ward, bringing in their own germs..."
Nurses aren't coming from the street between each patient contact. They also wash their hands between each patient contact. They know about minimizing the spread of disease, and know that the more people you have from outside the facility, the more chances there are that a disease like flu or the common cold is going to be spread by coughs, sneezes, dirty hands and aready contaminated clothes.
Take that memorable moment in your life and share it with a couple of the most important people in your life. Let the rest know ahead of time that you care about them and look forward to seeing them and basking in their love when you and baby get home in a few days. Maybe they'll get together and have a party waiting for you when you get home.
If you are that selfish, are you really ready to be a new MOM?
Another reason why Midwifery needs to make a come back. Screw the health care system. I have a few friends who have chosen to give birth at home and had a great delivery naturally.
ITA 930, there's nothing that says you have to deliver at PRMC...you can deliver at another hospital, or in the comfort of your own home.
Also, the nurses/docs have most likely been vaccinated against H1N1 because healthcare providers were one of the "priority groups"
I understand your dilema, and am glad I'm not in your shoes because it's not an easy decision to make, but you have to remember it's for the protection of you & your newborn. Good luck to you!
You people are miserable. I understand what she's saying completely. I do however, think there should be a limit due to the fact when I had my daughter, the couple next to me would have about 12 visitors at a time. It got annoying. But I don't see the problem with the two grandmothers and her sister. I wonder if her husband and sister left for awhile they'd allow the two grandmothers in? And it's completely understandable to want to see her 4 year old around Christmas.
You people are ridiculous.
I, too, gave birth at the end of Oct. and was initially saddened by the fact that my two children at home would not be meeting their new brother sooner. With the previous two children we were visited in the hospital by all of our family and friends. While both ways were wonderful, we found that the quiet on the maternity ward was a nice change.
We desperately wanted our children to come, but have to admit that the nurses seemed happier at their jobs with the lack of chaos. It seems bad when you are going into it, but once you are there, you'll find that it isn't so bad. Enjoy the rest because everyone will bombard you at home :) And you'll be better rested to handle it.
To all of you with the nasty comments - you must have not have children and for that, I pity you.
And for those who are hoping the policy will change - we got the impression that this is the NEW policy - and the nurses are pushing to keep it that way.
We are in the same position, with my sister due this week. The nurses have families and lives outside the hospital and can transmit disease in an incubation period just as much as any visitor could.
All PRMC needs to do is require visitors to wear an approved face mask and gloves.
Are you people posting these mean comments the same people that are posting on the Gandor Mountain about being in the Christmas Spirit????
She is a getting ready to have a baby!! She wants her mom there and her mother in law!
If any of you rude people have children, can you honestly say that you didn't have anyone come visit the baby!?
5 days until CHRISTMAS how about you act like it!
Unbelievable.
My wife had emergency surgery on the 7th. I can tell you that the policy is very strict. Even though I had my wife's glasses and she could'nt see without them , when I tried to take them up to her Tues AM,I wasn't allowed to give them to her. I had to leave them down stairs with the info desk and they had a nurse come and get them. There is a guard that stands at the elevators until noon. Only Chaplains are allowed before then. My wife was in there until Saturday 12th and they didn't allow my 14 yo to visit either. H1N1 is what they said but IMO, seeing how there were two heavily guarded prisoners just doors away from my wife the week we were there and all the gang related shooting/crime victims at the hospital etc., part of me believes it's also a safety policy. We'll see if they loosen up once the flu season has slowed.
Don't think of this as an attack toward you, it is truly for your protection and your neborn baby's protection. I am not in the health care profession, but just spent some time as a patient as PRMC and am thankful that I didn't pick up any extra germs, etc. With computers and picture cell phones, I would think that your 4 year old would love to get a picture message fromn you on the computer. Take the time to enjoy the peace and quiet while in the hospital! Good luck and many wishes to a healthy new baby! cj
PRMC is a bad joke if you want good health care go to Baltimore .
As 11:00 said, the policy is for your protection and that of your new baby. I lost a beloved friend last Spring who had surgery at PRMC, came through it just fine, but died not long afterward from an infection he'd picked up at the hospital. I understand it's certainly no fun - to say the least - but it's in place for sound health reasons.
I wish you a Merry Christmas, and may your bundle of joy be in perfect health.
"We desperately wanted our children to come, but have to admit that the nurses seemed happier at their jobs with the lack of chaos."
Not only are the nurses happier about the lack of chaos, they're working safer without it.
You have to go over the bridge either way for good healthcare.
I choose to go to "All About Women" in Christiana for myself and my daughters. It is worth the trip. Because of this choice, I saved my daughter's ovary and needless surgery.
11:58, PRMC has won numerous national awards for their health care. Not saying they're perfect, but facts are facts.
WOW ! How dare the hospital institute a policy to protect patients! Bet she would feel differently if her child was hospitalised with cancer, with low to no ability to fight off germs, like so many elderly as well, how would you like dozens of visitors in the room? Bet you would be ALL FOR restricion of visitors then.And just remeber while you rag on the nurses, nurses are one of th few professions working ALL NIGHT, working CHRISTMAS DAY as well as every other holiday.
You should care more about the health of your baby, and that of other sick people, than you do about who gets to see your baby first. Hospitals are in the health care busines, not the social business.
Having a baby has been done to death, if you've seen one you've seen em all.
Oh this makes me feel real comforted. I am scheduled for a hysterectomy in February. I will be counting on multiple individuals who all have jobs that were planning on taking turns so that no one had to take time off from work. You would think that PRMC would actually be grateful for the additional help getting me up and out of bed and moving around. I already know that there is a complication with a clotting disorder and I will have to stay a couple of extra days and get up more frequently and sooner than most. Now I guess I'm going to have to figure out what I'm going to do. I understand why you want people to come and see you in the hospital. Then they all bombard you at home, which is worse. At least if they were limiting visitors to two at once, some of the initial company could come in, make a brief visit and go back out. Plus, it allows your husband to be around for your other children. Having children at home with their mother in the hospital is stressful to the kids. So having at least one parent home for time for some normalcy I think is appropriate. Plus like I said with you having a c-section you will need assistance getting up and down as well. I think no more than two people in the room at once is understandable, unless of course the individual is critical. Best of luck to you. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
The Admin at PRMC does not care what you think. They will do what they want, when they want. The staff thinks this is way to much of a restriction. We would not allow anyone in our family to visit our newborn if they were sick. we will police our own family visitors. We switched arm bands in the parking lot and waited till shift change and had no problems. Good luck and get out of PRMC ASAP.
I recently was an outpatient at PRMC and must admit I was VERY impressed with the care I received during my brief visit. Truthfully, if I would have had to stay an extra day or so, I would be grateful to not have company visit me, even other family members. Hospitals are to rest at, not have a social meeting at!
PRMC is like the roach motel you check in but you don't check out !
EVERY floor at PRMC is a "sick floor".
There are H1N1 patients on EVERY floor of the hospital.
Congratulations on your upcoming birth but on this visitation issue, get over it! You should be thankful they have taken precautions to try and limit the spread of disease.
If they hadn't, I have a feeling you'd be writing in that they hadn't done anything to limit exposure.
give birth in mexico you won't have to worry about that then!
As a nurse as PRMC I routinely see families and friends of patients bring infants to our unit (it's ICU). They let them craw on the floor and can't understand why the staff have to ask them to take the children out. We are trying to protect our patients and their children. Most patients in our unit are immunosuppressed as you are during your pregnancy. If you had stood at the bedside of a patient with H1N1 and wondered if they would survive I think you would have a different outlook. People disregard the visiting policy 24/7 365 days a year. When did our town develop such a lack of respect for intelligent policies. These policies were developed to protect vulnerable patients. There has been almost universal disregard for the rules. You just cant't fix stupid.
Give PRMC a break, there are horror stories for every hospital around here, including the ones in bmore (UMMC/Shock Trauma, Hopkins ...)
Nurses love the new visitation policy, i don't think its going anywhere
I don't understand all this hateful and rude comments to this poor pregnant woman who wanted to know when the ban is going to be lifted?? its a good question...I would be worried about my children if I was in the hospital and wouldn't be able to see them until i get home...
I know the ban is there for the safety of the patients as well for the visitors..its a hospital virus' and other things are probably running ramped all through there.....
Still does not give you people the right to be so rude and ill mannered..This is after all a joyful occasion and christmas season...I hope yall have a very blessed day and year...it wouldn't kill yall to be nice...
Take turns.
Hopefully this ban will never be lifted. When I was there in labor and delivery a fight broke out in the room beside me and security had to respond. This woman was in full labor and there were two men fighting over who the father was. It only takes one person to have a baby. I can understand you wanting one other person with you but that is enough.
Why should the hospital endanger the health of other vulnerable patients to satisfy the selfish socialite desires in having everyone you know visiting your baby in the hospital...and why do people think they are too important for the rules to apply to them!
There was a time not to long ago that NO ONE even the Father was allowed in the delivery room. Under Obama care you people will be wishing with ever ounce of breath you have to return to our current health care system.
Hospitals are to rest at, not have a social meeting at!
Thank you! Having a baby is a 23 hr stay after delivery, a time you will want to be left alone. Family and friends can visit at home. The policy is not just about H1N1, its about all the germs. Since the policy went into effect the contamination and infection rate is DECREASING! Pt satisfaction is on the rise. Security is better. These are the things hospitals are for. Patient health and safety!
When I pay the bill it should be up to me !
Good luck with the midwife. maybe she will light some more candles and incense when you start to have difficulty delivering. God forbid if the cord is wrapped around the babies neck. Sorry to be so graphic but I have seen it happen. The result is a child that you and I will pay for medical care indefinately!! Touchy feely decisions have no place in modern medicine. It makes me sick to see irresponsible liberally minded people destroy everything they touch. Hats off to PRMC for making sound policy decisions and proctecting patients.
This is actually a policy recommended by the CDC for all hospitals. While some have choosen (very recently) to lift it, most are still adhering to it for the duration of flu season. It isn't just PRMC. While it sucks emotionally it is done for the safety and health of your baby and you.
Heres a perspective from the other side of the coin....6 yyears ago I was in the hospital just before Christmas with a newborn after a C section and it was a nightmare because my baby was sick in NICU yet the older children of other new mothers were allowed to roam the unit freely with runny snotty noses,unsupervised.One kid wandered into my private room!When we complained to the hospital,they were pretty adamant that the children of these other parents "had the right" to be with their new siblings.Never mind my kid was already sick.Only when I threatened to bypass the PR person they sent to my room and go to Mr.McLaughlin did they show me any consideration.
No offense,but these new guidelines are long overdue with H1N1 and all out there now.Those who dont like it,well,have your baby at home or in a birthing center.Newborns are very susceptible to strep,staph and other germs that older kids wallow in and should not be exposed to life threatening germs just because you want your whole extended family present.
The policy may sound rediculous to many but I believe something needed to be done. Remember the folks that insist on having their whole damn family there? Hell I have seen 10 or more people in one room.
You need your family there to keep the staff from stealing your stuff !
What is it a hospital or a jail?
It is a hospital. You people want your cake and eat it too. Most people that are hospitalised have a depressed immunity to bacteria and virus germs, for gods sake why is it so hard to understand limiting outside persons? If you had a loved one contract a viral or bacterial infection from a visitor you would be bashing the hospital for that as well. Soon there will be a severe shortage of health care providers thanks to nationalised health care courtesy of the Democrats.
My boss says that patients and families want an open visiting policy. After reading this I am not so sure. The unit that I work in is getting ready to "open the doors." Everyone knows the concerns that the nurses have in my unit. Why can't we keep the visitors out like the Mother/Baby unit? It will never happen, because that's not what she wants! Do families really want to "be our partners in care?"
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