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Sunday, October 08, 2017

Image Of Las Vegas Shooter Who Took His Own Life

This never seen before image is in fact the scumbag who, (like a coward) took his own life before law enforcement could do it for him. While this image may be hard for some to look at, I feel it's important everyone see the TRUTH. Notice the hand gun above his head.

110 comments:

ExSPD192 said...

Notice too, the shell casings ON TOP of the blood stains.

Zorro said...

COOL....... nice head shot he did...woo woo

Anonymous said...

Good, show all of them like this.

Anonymous said...

Cool one less liberal.

Anonymous said...

Shell casings are solid and will not soak into the carpet like blood. Therefore will be on top of the blood soaked carpet. Not difficult to understand.

Anonymous said...

4:12-the blood is running through the carpet...it wouldn't flow up over objects. Right?

Anonymous said...

Good catch. How do shell casings end up on top of his blood? The shooting should have been done right.

Anonymous said...

LUCKY he took his OWN life when he did bc it was over a HOUR before SWAT got there WGY ??????!

Anonymous said...

He could have continued killing because it took One hour twenty minutes for SWAT to get there WHY ???????????????? The police knew what room he was in because they were shot at so WHY WHY WHY Did it take over a HOUR to get to the KNOWN ROOM.

Anonymous said...

Im still sceptical of the whole thing. Can't trust the MSM don't trust what the police will tell you. May never know what really took place.

Anonymous said...

The police say he did not act alone...Democrats are pure evil.

Anonymous said...

Why did it take over a hour for SWAT to get there?.

Anonymous said...

If that is a revolver how did the shell casing get out of the gun?

Anonymous said...

I don't know sh1t from Apple butter about situations like this... What is up with the different soak in rate of the blood?

JoeAlbero said...

WOW, I am amazed at some of these comments as well as others on other posts. Granted, I put up an article yesterday that had a video showing alleged gun fire coming from a lower level of the hotel. I simply wanted to see what people thought of this video and the conspiracy theorists came out like crazy.

Look, the image I put up here has not been seen ANYWHERE else. I obviously have more inside information on this matter then most. If there was to be any blood splatter it would be on the ceiling. After the ahole fell to the ground his blood seeped out, hence why there is no blood on the shell casings. I'm really not sure why so many people are out there trying to make something out of nothing but we live in a completely different society with the Internet and each one of you have every right to your opinion. However, where someone keeps coming on here saying SWAT took hours to get there, are you nuts? The guy took his own life within minutes. He had barricaded himself in the room and knew security/police where there to get him, again, within minutes. If you are not impressed with the response time from law enforcement on this case, well, you need your head examined.

USMCRetired said...

This picture was not necessary and in poor taste!

Anonymous said...

There are casing all over the floor if you look for them. Therefore the three shown may not have anything to do with the head shot. I too wondered how shells jumped out of a revolver and how many shots can one put in the head before slowing the subject down. Lol Don't play Monday morning quarterback on the response time. A job well done and the good sheriff is the best I can remember handling the media.

Anonymous said...

this has FBI CIA Black OPS inside job written alllll over it.
there were definitely two shooters.
both were shooting at the same time.
search youtube - 'i survived las vegas shooting'. theres a 2:40 min video taken from the scene, and theres definitely automatic gunfire coming from two places at the same time. around the 2:00 mark, and the 2:20 mark.

JoeAlbero said...

USMCRetired, First of all, there is NO Marine ALIVE who is "retired". The only time a Marine is retired is when he is dead.

As for the picture, I believe it is very necessary. Just how many times have people questioned, is that person actually dead, I never saw pictures of him/her dead.

Compare my image with all of the others in that room and you will instantly see it is real and final.

Anonymous said...

When SWAT burst in the first thing they do is kick weapons away and it wouldn't be a leap to think the rushing in scattered the casings from their original position. No one is worried about preserving the crime scene in situations like this.

Anonymous said...

Time Line-

*10:05pm shooting begins. Suspect on 32nd floor.
*10:12pm First two officers arrive on 31st floor stating gunfire origin on 32nd floor.
*10:15pm Last shots fired by suspect.
*10:17pm First two officers arrive on 32nd floor.
*10:18pm Security guard, Jose Campos tells police he was shot and exact room location.
*10:26-10:30pm Eight additional officers arrive on 32nd floor. Begins evacuation.
*10:55pm Eight additional officers arrive at suspect hotel room door.
*11:20pm Initial room breach. Suspect located. 2nd Door (room) identified.
*11:27pm Second breach, 2nd room. Radio: All Clear – Suspect Down.

JoeAlbero said...

7:54, The gun fire did not go on for as long as you state above.

Anonymous said...

Another thing they were dealing with 2 rooms. The suite and a regular room he had rented next door that had an adjoining door. By that time they knew this because a window from each had been busted out even though he only shot from the one in the suite.
They had no idea if more then one shooter was involved.

Anonymous said...

Joe that came from what the Sheriff said last night in the press briefing.

Anonymous said...

The casings were on the ground. When he shot himself in the blood came out of his head and wrapped around the casings. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist hear people.

Anonymous said...

It says last shots fired. The last shot fired was at 10:15 and was him shooting himself. Right before that was the shots he took at the door that hit the security guard.

Anonymous said...

Time line is accurate. Last shot fired was the suicide shot just after he shot the security guard. If you view the other pics leaked all the bullet holes are at the bottom of the door. No doubt because the room was smoke filled and he had to get low to see and breath.

Anonymous said...

The problem is WHY did it take SWAT over a Hour to get there he could have kept shooting but he killed himself after shooting the security officer.

Anonymous said...

A liberal Marine

JoeAlbero said...

To the EBT Blogger freaking out here in comments saying the image has been out for days. I received the image two days ago and was asked to hold it for two days, I did just that. In fact, I was asked not to publish the image but I did send it to a few close friends who can confirm my statement to be true. Nevertheless, the image has NOT been broadcast in its original form in the mainstream media. So do us all a favor and shut the hell up. Go away and stop obsessing over me. You are the ONLY sick in the head individual who has stalked and followed my every move for at least 8 years. Get your head examined, fool.

Anonymous said...

Joe the perp shooting stopped approx after he shot the security guard why did it take a hour and ten minutes for SWAT to get there ? The perp could have killed hundreds more people but I think he killed himself because after shooting the guard the jig was up.

Anonymous said...

800 yep.

Anonymous said...

All THUGS should look like that pic.

Anonymous said...

So glad someone still has guts! Thanks Joe, you should post more of these, same as these kind of photo's should be out in the mainstream media, maybe people would see that bullets are real and deadly.


I guess we found the Marine that voted for Hillary.

Anonymous said...

Also to add, another reason why this is fake is becasue, the smoke detectors would have went off once you fired the gun 1 or 2 times... This is a casino, and they have some of the best security than air ports... They would have now where this guy was... It wouldn't take that long to search and find him...

Anonymous said...

Post up top please.

Anonymous said...

100% true.

Anonymous said...

8:09 it didn't take them an hour to get there. See timeline they arrived between 1026 and 1030. The second group arrived at 1055. The first group were there as a precaution in case he did start firing again. The 2nd group were clearing the floor of other guests. When that was done they breached the door. SWAT just doesn't rush and blow the door off. Evacuation and the safety of the other guests were part of the plan. Remember they had very little idea of what they were dealing with,

Anonymous said...

Bought 33 guns in a year and that does not raise a red flag apparently. This coming from A GUN OWNER so calm down before you even start. Don't know if it would have prevented this but dammit we need to at least try.

Anonymous said...

What is it about the Left and rabid horrific violence?

I don’t know if he’s a Bernie or Hillary supporter, but he was a registered Democrat at Palm Beach County, Florida

Anonymous said...

Very nice picture of the scumbag.

Anonymous said...

Look at the handgun, it has a red stain on it and a trail of blood from the handgun to the puddle. I'm questioning where he was shot at. If that gun was used, parts of his face would be unrecognizable.

Anonymous said...

Yeahhhhhh
One less old snowflake.

Anonymous said...

How about if he was a gun COLLECTOR ?

Anonymous said...

The SECOND group was SWAT WHY DID THE FIRST GROUP STAND DOWN ? THERE JOB IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE NOT WAIT.

Anonymous said...

4:12 watching too many episodes of Quincy.

Anonymous said...

Why didn't the first round of cops enter the room after the security officer got shot.

lmclain said...

Bought 33 guns in a year.
So what?

I know a couple of men who have over a hundred weapons.
Each.
I know more than a few with at least 15 rifles, handguns, and shotguns.
NONE of them are criminals.
Now, people want to limit the number of guns we can purchase??

"Shall not infringe....." (that's in THE CONSTITUTION, by the way, and I ask, "what do you think that means?") Take a moment, if needed, to think).
Is it the LAW, or a mere "suggestion"?

A terribly horrific event. But when I hear liberal sissies talk about "deeper" background checks and "psychological profiling", I only see Nazi's finding reasons to infringe, in any way possible and using any reasoning.
When I see those same people showing an OUNCE of concern for 800 murders in a city with the strictest gun laws in the nation, then they will have credibility. Until then, it's just screeching and wailing for POLITICAL points.
Keep wailing.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe he took his own life...much more to this story yet to come. Truth will prevail.

Anonymous said...

Actually, that many guns should have sent off a warning. But in reality most background checks are not completely in time to stop the purchase. That is what most needs to be fixed. Enforce the laws already on the books. It was several months ago but last I heard over 80% of gun sales go through before the background check is completed by the Feds.

Anonymous said...

Looks like he did a little gurgling after he hit the floor. Not instant death. Could be he suffered greatly on his way to hell.

Anonymous said...

My brain says I should be repulsed at what I see. However, the knowledge of who it is, and what heinous things he did, makes it pleasurable in some degree to view it.

Anonymous said...

9;34-because he had stopped shooting, but they new he had more firepower than the did I'm guessing, not to mention SWAT has more in terms of body armour. If he was still shooting, you can bet they would've taken action sooner, regardless of SWAT being there or not.

Anonymous said...

9:20-looks to me like he shot himself with the gun in his mouth and out the top/back of his head....face not affected.

Anonymous said...

It's here, rocket scientist...

Anonymous said...

8:35 the smoke detectors were activated. The security guard has said this is how he found the room so quickly.

Anonymous said...

9:20 he shot himself in the mouth.

Anonymous said...

9:32 No both groups were SWAT. 1/2 were sent immediately to the room. The other half to evacuate the floor. Remember they had no idea the number of shooters so the guests were evacuated behind shields.

Anonymous said...

Good point.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it the cops job to protect and serve ? So why didn't the police enter the room ?

Anonymous said...

The shell casings seen are from a different weapon, not the handgun.

Let this person's name never again be uttered or written.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

My brain says I should be repulsed at what I see. However, the knowledge of who it is, and what heinous things he did, makes it pleasurable in some degree to view it.

October 5, 2017 at 10:30 AM"


I said the same thing.

Anonymous said...

He put the gun in his mouth and shot up into his head, the blood splattered on the gun, as he fell back blood trailed from the gun in that direction and flowed from the hole in the roof of his mouth and the top of his head in that same direction, it then seeped into the carpet and flowed under the previously spent shell casings.

Anonymous said...

11:21 It's not rocket science for heavens sake. Once more for you dunces. They had very little idea what they were dealing with. The shooting had stopped. They didn't know if this was now a barricade situation not an active shooter situation. The first thing to do is to get anyone that may be in harms way out of the area. They had no idea if explosives were involved or much of anything else. Your point is so ridiculous anyway. The shooting had STOPPED and never resumed so what you are saying is irrelevant anyway. What if's do not matter.

Anonymous said...

What took the cops so long.

Anonymous said...

They are trained for active shooter I agree why didn't they enter it's there JOB.

Anonymous said...

Why did it take over a hour to show up .???????

Anonymous said...

I find some of the trash on television in poor taste more than this shot...no pun intended. Maybe the good law enforcement are receiving complaints from you people is because they are trained in taking control and you don't understand due to lack of same. STFU!

Anonymous said...

How many knfes do you have on your kitchen ? LIBERAL

Anonymous said...

They were too long in entering the room ESPECIALLY since they Knew the room ...if it we're a school active shooter would they WAIT OVER A HR ?????

Anonymous said...

The problem here being the first post was made by an ex law enforcement officer. As stupid as he or she is, they made these types of erroneous conclusions their whole life wearing a badge. I seriously hope this "officer" realizes what an idiot they are. Others take note. Don't be that idiot cop.

Anonymous said...

9:37 "shall not be infringed upon". That very same Constitution has these crazy things called amendments. And seeing as it was written in 1787 when rifles essentially shot a very inaccurate ball, I'd say it deserves a little regulation now that a human being can do something like this on a whim. But I suppose that point won't hit home until it's you or your family on the receiving end of those shots. I pray none of us ever have to experience that. Congratulations on your friend with all the guns! I bet he's super cool!

Anonymous said...

In October 2016 Hillary said she would use executive orders for gun control if she had to. She was really upping the rhetoric at that time.
There were lots of articles about gun sales sky rocketing.

That would have been good cover for Paddock, and others, to buy a large number of guns in October, 2016. So many other people were buying, it would have overwhelmed the systems for background checks, and made it less likely to have drawn attention to himself for the irregularity.

Anonymous said...

Watch out everyone, 9:37 is a real tough guy! No one said anything about limiting the number of guns you can purchase. What would common sense tell you about someone who needs 33 rifles in a year? Proud gun owner here and there is absolutely nothing wrong with red flags being thrown with that. These snowflakes up above have some pretty stupid ideas but I've always advocated for mandatory education.

I mean come on we have to license, register, insure and be tested to drive a freakin car. You're all so scared of a tyrannical government coming for your guns. If they did you think every serviceman in the US Army is going to unite against the people? You think you and Jimbo and his 500 guns are going to take on an army? Last I checked you only have two hands.

It's time to take our heads out of our asses. The headlines should read "America's deadliest mass shooting, for now" because if we continue to do nothing these psycho's and terrorists will continue to kill. Sure some shootings are will illegal weapons, not much we can do about that. Gotta say the snowstorm of 12:56 has an interesting point.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter how good of guys your gun collecting friends are 9:37.

We all have to get insured to drive a car. You don't see me all up in a tizzy because "I'M A RESPONSIBLE DRIVER I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE GOVERNED BY LAWS PREVENTING OTHER PEOPLE FROM DOING STUPID STUFF". Welcome to life, the idiots ruin it for the good guys.

Anonymous said...

The main argument is that guns do not kill people, the person pulling the trigger does. Someone with a mental issue can abuse a legal right that hundreds of millions of other Americans respect. The thing is that one person just killed near 60 people in the blink of an eye. I understand that the gun is not autonomous and free thinking. They've never cracked the code to my gun safe from the inside and crawled out to commit a rampage. However, recently legislation preventing people with a mental illness was trashed. Which to me was STUPID.

We've got some eastern shore blood spatter experts here that probably barely manage an office job. Leave the real work to the experts and keep dreaming up your conspiracies.

Anonymous said...

I call your comment BS just because he stopped shooting there was no reason to go in right Away ? What Happened if he was just re loading ? The cops coward out.

Anonymous said...

Hillary Bernie Obama Soros plan is to TAKE ALL GUNS so we can be overun by ISLAM look at Europe.

Anonymous said...

They are all over bump stocks. Aiming with a semiauto would have taken out way more people then using a bumpfire which are very hard to aim and mostly sprays all over.

Anonymous said...

Well with that logic let's just allow Kim Jong Un to have his nukes. Because it's not nukes who kill people, it's people who kill people. See how stupid that sounds?

Anonymous said...

BOOM.

Anonymous said...

That's how you feel. I don't feel bad for him and don't feel upset seeing it!

Anonymous said...

Now the DEMS will say that the NRA bowed down to them but we ALL Know that it was to take the heat off of Republicans.

Anonymous said...

This story makes no real sense.
That Hotel managed to lock down in about a minute when the power went out. Not that night.
As mentioned fire alarms would have gone off. Very possibly just breaking the windows would alarm. Not that night.
The taxi cab driver drove through and no one was doing anything as the shooting continued. No security presence at the Hotel and no police there. That makes no sense at all.
The gunfire does not sound as slow as that bump fire gadget would make it.
The number of rounds fired is far in excess of the ability of that bump fire gadget to produce. Remember also rounds fired into those fuel tanks. Was he stupid enough to think the rounds he fired would penetrate them? Why not a 50 cal for those tanks?
Lunch was ordered for two in that room. Pizzas also seemingly for more than one.
The lights stayed on till the shooting stopped. Why not shut them off immediately? Make it far more difficult to target. Why not shut off power in the Hotel?

Anonymous said...

1000% correct.

Anonymous said...

And SWAT took over a HOUR too gain entry.

Anonymous said...

So much for protect and serve was SPD in charge ?

Anonymous said...

Joe
Please post the video on YouTube
A young lady said that security through out 2 Hispanics after that stated everyone there was going to die ? Where is the video of these 2 ? The MSM is covering this bc The gf converted him to HER RELIGION ISLAM.

Anonymous said...

If you knew anything about firearms you could tell those are rifle casings.

Anonymous said...

Shell casings would stay in the revolver cylinder. Casings on the floor look like caliber.223/5.56mm, which would be ejected each time a cartridge was fired.

Anonymous said...

Read 11:27 over again...I agree, from the first time I saw the photo I thought the same thing, the shell casings are not from a revolver.

Anonymous said...

wow tinfoil stocks are rising

lmclain said...

1:19 is a cheerleader.
His logic is that if my FRIENDS have a lot of guns, then I'm a tough guy.
I never said that. That's his logic, such as it is.....
His logic also seems to be that if we ONLY HAD A FEW MORE LAWS for gun buyers and owners, all this would be fixed.
I also will take a moment to challenge his intelligence. A few more laws? Seriously??
Further, no one I know is "afraid" of the government. I think they are more afraid of "we, the people" than we are of them, which is the way Thomas Jefferson thought it should be in this republic.
Lastly and most importantly in your march to the kingdom of idiots, don't compare what we must do to acquire a PRIVILEGE to what we must do to acquire a RIGHT. Which is merely to be born. BOOM, you have RIGHTS, unimpeachable by men.
MEN grant "privileges". God gives us rights as free men, to say what we will, go where we want and defend ourselves in a fashion best suited to our needs. 1:16 thinks "mandatory classes" are needed. After that doesn't work, what? More laws, that's what and down the slope we slide.
In the background, 1:16 is cheering.
I don't need ANYONE'S okay to use my RIGHTS.
When did we start allowing men to say WHICH rights they will ALLOW us to use???
Remember what the 2ND Amendment is specifically written for --- and remember that Thomas Jefferson himself (1:16 is MUCH smarter than him, of course, being concerned about "Jimbo")) said --- one day, men corrupted by power and authority, WILL (not maybe, 1:16) attempt to impose tyranny. We stay armed for THAT. But in 1:16's world, men in power are good and benevolent and would NEVER attempt to eliminate our rights.
That's why men in power passed the Patriot Act and the NDAA. To PROTECT (?!?) Americans by nullifying the Bill of Rights. Uh huh. Did I mention your stupidity?
Get back to cheerleading.
I'm not giving AN INCH to any sissy crying for MORE LAWS.
Gun owner, my ass.
Keep cheering.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:20.........Wrong!

Anonymous said...

You can't see past the nose in front of your face. The weapons of our forefathers we're on par with the weapons that the government possessed. That's what our forefathers wanted. The weapons today need to be on par with the weapons of our government to make sure we can repel a tyrannical government. We are technically behind as our government has more advanced Weaponry than the citizenry does. Our forefathers would be spinning in their graves if they knew we let the government get this strong. The Second Amendment is not about hunting it's about repelling a tyrannical government.

Anonymous said...

At 2:52, your logic is "let murderous felons have guns because guns don't kill people". You are the idiot. You are the one who sounds stupid.

Anonymous said...

Agree 100% plus this simulation of full auto is a novelty. as it was said earlier semi automatic fire is much more effective. The only use I would have for a full auto was if I wanted to waste a lot of money on ammo and burn my Barrel.

Anonymous said...

At 6:33. There are a lot of errors and fallacies in your comment. Too many for me to address in the time that I have.

Anonymous said...

1:19 is a cheerleader.
His logic is that if my FRIENDS have a lot of guns, then I'm a tough guy.
I never said that. That's his logic, such as it is.....
His logic also seems to be that if we ONLY HAD A FEW MORE LAWS for gun buyers and owners, all this would be fixed.
I also will take a moment to challenge his intelligence. A few more laws? Seriously??
Further, no one I know is "afraid" of the government. I think they are more afraid of "we, the people" than we are of them, which is the way Thomas Jefferson thought it should be in this republic.
Lastly and most importantly in your march to the kingdom of idiots, don't compare what we must do to acquire a PRIVILEGE to what we must do to acquire a RIGHT. Which is merely to be born. BOOM, you have RIGHTS, unimpeachable by men.
MEN grant "privileges". God gives us rights as free men, to say what we will, go where we want and defend ourselves in a fashion best suited to our needs. 1:16 thinks "mandatory classes" are needed. After that doesn't work, what? More laws, that's what and down the slope we slide.
In the background, 1:16 is cheering.
I don't need ANYONE'S okay to use my RIGHTS.
When did we start allowing men to say WHICH rights they will ALLOW us to use???
Remember what the 2ND Amendment is specifically written for --- and remember that Thomas Jefferson himself (1:16 is MUCH smarter than him, of course, being concerned about "Jimbo")) said --- one day, men corrupted by power and authority, WILL (not maybe, 1:16) attempt to impose tyranny. We stay armed for THAT. But in 1:16's world, men in power are good and benevolent and would NEVER attempt to eliminate our rights.
That's why men in power passed the Patriot Act and the NDAA. To PROTECT (?!?) Americans by nullifying the Bill of Rights. Uh huh. Did I mention your stupidity?
Get back to cheerleading.
I'm not giving AN INCH to any sissy crying for MORE LAWS.
Gun owner, my ass.
Keep cheering.

Anonymous said...

Shown in the picture is a martyr to..... nothing.

Anonymous said...

Saving Taxpayers Millions !!!!

Anonymous said...

Next to his 223's and 308's !! Looks like

Anonymous said...

want more video proof of multiple shooters?
search youtube 'las vegas multiple shooters confirmed. proof part 2'
this one shows the 'security guard' opening fire on the crowd, in the back of the general admission area.
couldnt be more clear to MY eyes.
WAKE UP!!!

Anonymous said...

Joe you are so smart. You cant be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Rite!! Be careful, the wheel riders on here will crucify you for having a opinion any different.

Anonymous said...

Right 60 minutes is a lonnnng time for that level of madness.

Anonymous said...

So they should wait a hour before seriously acting?

Anonymous said...

as long as it's been you people are still regurgitating the same old crap. you can have different opinions just use ones that haven't already been dismissed. is that too much to ask

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
So they should wait a hour before seriously acting?

October 9, 2017 at 8:05 AM

damn I am so tired of stupid people commenting on this tragic event. no one waited an hour. you would know that if you could bother yourself to read the facts and stop listening to other morons.

Obama Crooked Bastardo said...

I have waited to make comment on this shooting while getting more info about this tragic event. We all know the story the MSM is telling. Should I trust the MSM who LIED to us about the Sandy Hook, the same MSM who told us Hillary was going to be the president, same MSM who LIED to us, the people, over and over, should I ?
So,this whole story has some major holes and it stinks like rotten fish, and Im not buying it. A lot of questions that need to be answered.
1) So, how long has this guy been dead? Could he been shot before the shooting started?
2) So, this 64 yr. old man brings 23 guns into his hotel room on 32nd floor, all by himself, without anybody noticing? How many duffel bags it takes to carry all those guns and ammo? How many trips up using the elevator? And again, nobody noticed anything?
3) How was the vehicle he was using able to hold all the weight of this arsenal?
4) Why bring 23 guns upstairs, when you know you will not be able to use them all?
5) Hotel Security Guard locates the room within 5-10 min of start of the shooting, and guard himself is shot, why and who shot him is unknown. At that time shooting stops. Why? Did Paddock panicked and shot himself? Did Paddock decided commit suicide using his revolver at that time?
6) Paddock body was found with gloves on both of his hands. Why? Why not pull the glove off, since its harder to pull the trigger on the revolver and he had plenty of time to do so.
7) Why did it take over an hour for SWAT team to breach the door? What was going in or around the room for whole hour? And was anyone else seen near this room?
Many questions are not being answered. And the final greatest question of all, after this horrific tragedy is over, Who Would "benefit" from all of this? If you answered Liberal Gun-Grabbers of America, you might be right.