Speed camera legislation passed the Salisbury City Council last night by a unanimous vote. Upon the signature of Mayor Jim Ireton, the measure will allow the Salisbury City government to increase revenue in the name of public safety.
The cameras will be in operation Monday – Friday from 6AM – 8PM. When asked by councilman Tim Spies, Chief Duncan was not clear as to how the system would work on week days when school was not in session or as to why the cameras would operate in the hours after school children had gone home.
47 comments:
It is all about money, and denying us of our rights of legal due process.
Put them up we will all have fun burning and destroying them like they do in England
they should lower the limit to 10 over. why are you in a rush leave earlier or take a different route
Under the 14th Adm. (due process clause)the cameras will take the 5th Adm. in testifying against the speeders, and will not incriminate themselves; wonder how this will work when Grandmom's car is accused of speeding and never leaves the driveway????
The cameras operate after hours for the same reason they operate while the kids are in school. Revenue revenue and revenue. The last time a student was hit by a car, she ran in front of a car against the light and she was not in a crosswalk.
unless you break the law you have no worries
Hey if you are speeding you are speeding...obey the speed limit.
(BIG BROTHER)
1:11
It's all about the law , don't speed , not to worry.
It's about not killing a child.
Where is your head?
You have a right to due process. You can contest it in court. With that said, activities with children at the schools does go beyond 3pm. Intramural sports, dances, talent shows, chorus and band shows, etc. Don't speed and you have no worries.
Your DUE process would be to drive the speed limit!
Actually more about safety, plus you can still fight one of these tickets in court, so the whole due process thing is off base as well. Basically, everything you think is wrong. And, if they have a picture of you speeding, I'd rather you not go to court and waste my money for something you clearly are guilty of.
Great work. Now get the additional software/system that id's tags. Use a central call center who can send out tickets, fines, etc. And, can dispatch centralize police. This should cut down the number of officers in several agencies. The technology can replace major costs and do the job more efficiently.
What if we want to dispute the ticket in court? Do we still have that opportunity?
No its about forcing people to drive the speed limit!! I wish they would put a speed camera in our neighborhood where the speed limit is 40 and people drive 60 mph or more, endangering our children and pets. You have to take your life in your own hands just to cross the street to retrieve your mail. I'm all for speed cameras, bring them on!
While I'm no big fan of tricks to raise revenues, I believe this could possible save a kids life.
As far as when school's not in session for a break or after school hours, why even bother with all those changes?
Just make it standard 6a - 8p and leave it be! There are other activities that take place in the schools besides the normal school day.
People just need to learn to slow down and if this is the way to make them do so, then go for it.
I do, however, think they should have made it also have points on the license just like any other speed infraction. By taking that portion away, they may see it doesn't matter for some to just pay a fine and be done with it.
We all know that some people have more money than sense!
Hooray City Council. Thanks for looking past all the worn out lines. The fact is, driving is not a right, it is a privelage. Drive the speed limit and all of those crying about big brother and due process have nothing to worry about. Do you think that cameras in a bank that can catch a criminal are big brother? I drive the speed limit, just because some of you may not want to, don't infringe on my safety. Now, if the county council can get past the posturing, maybe they can do the same.
I can think of some schools in residential neighborhoods that the cameras should be left running 24/7. It doesn't matter if school is in session or not!! The speed law is the law. Slow DOWN!!
Don't worry. No points, no going to court, just log onto their website and have your credit card handy. They make it real painless for you to give them your money. Nearly as thrilling as a Maryland Casino.
The point of due process is that you do not have your day in court with these cameras. You do not get points just a fine. You must pay and are denied the right to defend yourself. I agree it is rare, but there could be some cases where speeding might be justified (medical emergency, etc.) It is a slippery slope when you allow for citizens to be charged and fined with no appeal. Just get the police to enforce the law, and give the people their day in court.
What rights? The right to drive like an idiot, endangering others & animals?? They're giving you 12 miles over the SPEED LIMIT, for heaven's sake! Since some of you don't seem to know, the speed limit is the fastest you're supposed to be driving down the street, NOT a starting point! They can install one down our street any day. It's posted 25 mph, yet some seem to think it's a freakin' speedway. We have lots of children & pets in our neighborhood, & knock on wood, no one has been hit yet. Your "rights" don't trump safety.
Its a done deal, so deal with it. My only question now is this --- is there ANY surveilllance, remote law enforcement, Nazi checkpoints to see IF you are committing a crime, search without warrant, etc, that any of you would object to in any way whatsoever? Just answer the question without saying things like "if you're not doing anything wrong then what's the problem?" or "just obey the law and there's nothing to worry about" or "if it saves even one life, then its worth it." I'm asking at what point do YOU think a people in a free society should start to worry about being monitored a bit too much? Define the line, please. No insults, no hyperbole. Just define the line...
Amazing how many people are willingly giving up their rights little by little.
These cameras are routinely spoofed in England causing inocent motorist to be ticketed. The inocent people are then forced intoa long an costly process to prove inocence.
Where went the burden of proof?
5:33, how would those things be checked anyway considering there just aren't enough officers to do traffic detail. I would rather have them locking up robbers and such than sitting out ther babysitting a bunch of aggresive drivers that are old enough to know better, but too selfish to care. Atleast this way, people that are breaking the law with their vehicles can be held accountable. It doesn't mean that they won't still be running interdiction, it just means that now speeding can be enforced in areas where before it was just not possible due to shortage of officers.
I certainly hope they let the public know where these cameras will be put and when they will begin using them.
Can you challenge the calibration of the camera? No. That, right there is why you need an appeal process. The stop light camera company was intentionally making the yellow shorter, in order to boost profits. The yellow was so short that if a car was traveling the posted limit plus the normal human reaction time it was red before the car would enter the intersection. It is all about the money, and your right to a trial is the price.
We serve our government.
It does not serve us.
Statutory Law is when the elites tell us what to do and how high to jump.
Most communities who have utilized these cameras had them returned since everyone knew they were there and slowed down. Hence, no tickets, therefore no money to pay for cameras.
I suspect the same will be the case here after a few months.
All I can say is for those of us who are knowledgable - to now bypass this roadway and use the alternate routes - like we did with the Red Light cameras.
Use the residential backways the best you can. When enough neighbors complain about the increased traffic - maybe they'll change their minds
http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/
If anyone has gotten a ticket from the one in Fruitland, please dispute it. It is blatantly illegal (FAR outside school zone).
I do not support seceding my rights to a camera controlled by a publicly traded company. We pay police to do that job.
I got a ticket in Fruitland from the speed camera. You know what I did? I paid it. I was doing 43 in a 30 (13 MPH above posted speed limit)Thats more than 40% greater than the speed LIMIT. 40% of 65 is 26, so its equivelant to driving 91 in a 65 MPH zone. too fast isnt it. What people need to remember is that this about speed LIMITS, not suggestions.
8:20, Fruitland passed a resolution that declares a 1/2 mile radius around the schools as a school zone. Sorry about your luck. Slow down next time. The cameras are coming. Deal with it. Slow down, or ride a bike. Why does everyone feel it is okay to speed?
9:13 PM
you're loony. lol
Years ago, they put up several red light cameras around town. There was one on business 50 @ N. Division Street, and another one near the hospital on business 13.
All in the name of "safety" and generating revenue. Guess what happened to those? They ended up not making enough $$$ and away they went!
We will have to ensure the same thing happens here: Not enough revenue, and they WILL disappear!
Well lets see give the State Of Maryland the fine money and get points or go with the cheaper fine and no points. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I really got to think about this one. People what the hell is wrong with you just do not speed in school zones period and this is all a mute issue.
I will say hats off to the Salisbury City Council for stealing the thunder and idea right out from under the Wicomico County Council's nose. Yes here we go agiain. A day late and millions of dollars short. Right Stevie, Joe, and Gail. Amazing this could have been in place for the last year but because Mike Lewis and Rick Pollitt wanted it you guys methodically shot it down long enough for the city to get it. Who in the heck do you three represent other then yourselves. Do you actually have the counties best interest at heart. I know I will work as hard as I can to make sure none of you ever see an elected position again. All three of you are on the John Cannon train trust me. Your egos far outweigh your common sense. Joe this is just freaking amazing. Why would any county with the traffic issues we currently have turn down a system that not only educates. It also genrates revenue that stays in the jurisdiction. The revenue has to go back to public safety. Who cares where it goes it still enhances the overall budget. Who would need the new property tax if this program worked. Wow.
I wasnt speeding. It wasnt me. I let someone use my car. I had to hurry up and use the bathroom. My great grand mother was in labor. We are all innocent! I love the excuses and the ppl complaining about their law breaking habits.
Why only limit the cameras to school zones and speed tickets? I recently got a ticket in Dover for going thru a red light. It made me realize we should be doing the same thing in Salisbury. The cameras enforce laws, free up police and increase revenue.
Isn't it amazing that the City of Fruitland at most given times have at least two police officers on duty. They can be seen quite often writing traffic citations at the same time. Yet the town sees fit to install speed cameras to take more money from the public.
Fruitland is fast becoming a major speed trap on the east coast. If the police are only needed to write traffic tickets, then the speed cameras should take the place of the trooper want to be's. The town can then save money by reducing the size of the police force.
If, we the people, used our power of numbers, we can change things like this. STOP PATRONIZING AND BUSINESS IN FRUITLAND AND THE ABUSES OF THEIR GOVERNMENT WILL STOP.
after reading these comments I realize what a bunch of cowed sheep the majority have become.
We are screwed, you know what I want, let's just cut to the chase, I want a camera in my bedroom so someone can keep an eye on me. I might be murdered or hurt, or break some kind of new democrat law in which I am required to sodomize my dog once a day. Just please keep me safe. But those WRITING the laws know what it's all about.
It's about using taxpayer money to grow government to employ more people or increase the size of the entitlement system so that more are dependent on the government so that those people will vote to keep those same people in power so that their gubmint paycheck keeps coming to them.
The sheep say, follow the law and you don't have anything to worry about??!?!? So what happens when a law is passed that YOU don't like? Like in shariah land, where I can divorce with a text message. OR I can cut off the hand of your kid because I say he stole from me. Or I can pick up a stone and KILL you because my friend says he saw you commit adultery!!!!!
Is this what you bovine trough feeding troglodytes are really all about?
I want to know what person says this? Are you all really that stupid? Don't you understand that this process is slow, it takes a long time!
Please sign your name so we will all know who will be ok with being victimized in the future and you will be alright with it because someone passed a law, because someday, you MIGHT NOT LIKE who is writing the laws!
Examples of laws on the books that you can be fined for, right now..
Spitting on the sidewalk, cursing, chewing tobacco, where does it stop? What is wrong with all of you complete and total ignorant people?
The police are the WORST offenders especially on Rt. 50 near Wicomico Middle school.
We are going back to Horse and buggy soon because of Obama's Green Energy Czar and and by the way do not hit your horse b/c Obama's Animal Czar said you can be sued.
I wonder if they did a back ground check on the animal Czar he has? Seems like he must have been into Beastiality and now seeks forgiveness from his Allah; the Muslims Worship.
11:00 PM
Yup, that's what I said earlier. Few months and they will be gone.
One of the biggest problems I see about Fruitland is apparently you're not allowed to walk down the side of the road or street without being stopped, then patted down because you supposedly look suspicious, & asked what are you doing here? What ever happened to probable cause?? This has happened to several people that I know, one being told "it was a bad neighborhood" (it's not), while no crimes had been committed nearby. Is it a crime to not own a vehicle now?
To For the People - I have several friends in the fruitland police dept. They do make a lot of traffic stops but most of the officers are not writing citations. Don't believe get yourself a scanner and listen to them. A majority of the time the only citations that are being written are for major traffic issues like driving on a suspended license, driving an uninsured card, DWI, etc. Not many ofthose guys write citations for minor traffic. The high level of traffic is done to help keep the low life crooks out of fruitland and out is working. The crime rate in fruitland is definitely lower since they started this activity
2:18, I love it. Fruitland, just keep doing what you are doing. I feel safer everyday I live in Fruitland that if I lived in the county or salisbury. Keep pulling them, do interdiction, and checking out the thugs walking around. I may pay a little more in taxes, but, it is WORTH IT!!!
I can't beleive my county coucil, who works for you and me, missed the boat on this one. They think having 4 deputys working the whole county is enough to investigate, and prevent crime; and keep traffic safe? That is crazy.
Re.: 5:54pm
Someone walking home from the store isn't a thug. Stopping someone who is walking isn't good police work, it's harassment at best, becoming a police state at worst. Keep being a sheep, believing everything a police officer does is OK, meanwhile giving away your (&mine) rights. It's a free country, but not if the people are being stepped on in the process. Eagle Express gets held up on a regular basis; where are they then??
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