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Sunday, August 18, 2013
A LETTER TO THE EDITOR: Md State Police
Joe I was on rt 50 this am just past Royal Farms when I see state troopers doing radar and RUNNING out on the hwy to pull people over. I thought this was done AWAY with due to a Trooper being killed several years ago. Is the STATE that desperate for $$$$. What about job safety OR Does the mighty dollar prevail?.
29 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Dear Anonymous, Why don't you run out there and perform a citizen's arrest if it is a worry to you.
Don't SPEED and that trooper won't do as you perceive as breaking the law.
They did not flag me over so I must not have been speeding.
anonymous 11:11, it's a fair question. As I also recall, they changed the law a few years ago not allowing any police officers to step onto the highway. So stick to the subject, respectfully. Did they change the law since then?
I thought that the police have to be in a car or truck to pull you over... I thought that they made it so cops can't walk in the street to flag you down...
I also thought that the cops who radared you has to be the one who issues you a violation not some random cop after some cop in a cherry picker hits you with the radar gun...
I thought the cop who saw you violate the law has to be the one to stop you or the like...
@11:11 Theirs always one slowpoke like you that replies to these things. People speed because they got stuck behind people like you going 10 under the limit and now have to make up time! Either never commit another crime in your life( This includes jaywalking!) or get out.
As far the law they might have relaxed it to make some more money.
hey, cop on the first post, better watch out for that car that is texting and driving. . . .
it is so freaking dangerous. cars are PACKED up on fifty and this is gonna lead to a 25 car pileup one of these days and more than 1 person is gonna die
It was not a LAW that was changed. It was an internal Maryland State Police policy by the Colonel at that time as a reaction to an accident. There was further review done and a new Colonel in charge of MSP now. The policy is now allowed for stationary radar traffic stops. Additional safety items such as wearing the safety vests, etc. are required. You would have to contact the Colonel directly at MSP Headquarters in Pikesville to inquire as to his thought processes.
I had a MSP officer jump on the road in front of me to stop a car behind me. The officer seemed to not even think there are other vehicles on the road doing 60mph. The cars in front of me and behind me saw that officer run into traffic and swerved hard to the right, some with their passenger wheels off the right side of the road. We should have had a pile up right there due to this cops actions. If they wanted to stop that guy for speeding then stay in their car and catch up to them.
I think that the poster in the beginning had an interesting question. I thought that in order to get a ticket, the officer had to see you speeding and have it verified by a speed device. How can another officer issue a ticket if he did not see the car speeding??
i wish more people would get pulled over for texting and talking on the phone. Its obvious they can't do both at the same time while driving. I got behind a Lexus and this idiot driver missed the green light twice because she wasn't paying attention. She was on her phone.
Bend those Baltimore, Washington and P.A. tourists over and get every penny we can squeeze out of them. Our money goes back over that bridge to support people that refuse to work, and their SNAP cards, take their collective butts to the bank!
If the drivers didn't speed and drive sensibly, then there would not a be a need for troopers to work stationary radar. As far as the officer that see's the infraction, writing the ticket, that is incorrect, as long as as the officer that is utilizing the radar is put on the citation (towards bottom of cite, line for radar operator). Instead of griping about troopers and officers running radar, try something different, SLOW Down!!!!!
The trooper jumping into the lane may have a speed someone else called out to him/her but they have no control over the reaction time of the driver/s in question.
They could get injured or be the direct cause of other injuries if the driver swerves and crashes.
Bet your dollar if that happens they'll try to hang it on the motorist who was forced into evasive action by the trooper.
Two wrongs don't make a right! Find a safer way to fairly enforce.
They sit on route 50 about a mile or so from the State Police Barracks in Berlin every Friday. I have seen so many close calls this summer. Everyone traveling at 55 mph or more and all of a sudden the person in the left lane is getting pulled over and everyone is slamming on brakes. If 2 get pulled over on the right and left side of the road it becomes even more of a challenge. Now you have people slowing down due to the move over law and have to break the law of impeding traffic.
Some very fine young men enter the MSP and look like children when they first come into service. It breaks my heart when one gets killed for a thoughtless act. There is a certain breed out there that will follow blindly without thought of themselves. Sad.
i was on rt. 50 when radar was set up this summer. they had cars pulled over on each side of the road. now, by law i'm supposed to change lanes to avoid causing an accident. well what lane do i go to when cops have a vehicle on each side of the highway? seriously, i drove right down the middle of rt. 50.
11:12 I have said the same thing over and over. I just went to the SHA website to look up what the law says. I thought if you could not move over you had to slow to 35 mph. It states you have to slow to a safe and reasonable speed. There is also something else I found,,,, A new law requires drivers approaching from the rear an emergency vehicle using visual signals while stopped on a highway to, if possible, ‘make a lane change into an available lane not immediately adjacent to the emergency vehicle.’
Since the police are not on the road with lights on does the move over law actually pertain to what is going on on route 50?
I keep hearing speeding, well on 50 this week a state policeman that lives in Hebron was passing every thing, he had to be running 75. He was in and out of lanes with out signals (yes i know using signals for lane changes is not the law)but come on he's speeding, let me know your going to pull in on me! I find out later he drives every day to work , this was close to the bay bridge. I by the way am anonymous becouse i don't want to be harass, this also happens.
A few weeks ago I got pulled over about 50 yards in front of other 50 s speed trap. The Trooper that pulled me over had followed me from Hobbs road in Salisbury. This Trooper pulled me over, not for speeding, but for not wearing a seatbelt. The punch line? I was wearing my seatbelt, but had the shoulder strap under my arm. Due to the model of my car, it is difficult to see if the seatbelt is in use. This Trooper caught attitude as soon as he pulled me over, probably because I waited to pull over until I was in front of the speed trap (In order to warn other drivers of the trap). This Trooper had run my license (without cause since my tags were up to date and I was not speeding)and saw I had received a warning in OC the week before. He gave me a warning and a lecture that I had to wear the seatbelt properly according to the law. I looked at the law, it says this NO WHERE! I agree I am taking a risk with my life by not wearing the seatbelt over my chest, but it is not against the law. I love Law enforcement officers, but this kind of crap is a waste of their time and mine.
We have allowed this 'cop mentality' to manifest. It's our fault and it needs to be changed. Oversight of leos needs to be taken up by a civilian agency with an agenda to force law-enforcement operate within the law. Heh.., ain't that the ultimate oxymoron.., "make law-enforcement operate within the law".
29 comments:
Dear Anonymous, Why don't you run out there and perform a citizen's arrest if it is a worry to you.
Don't SPEED and that trooper won't do as you perceive as breaking the law.
They did not flag me over so I must not have been speeding.
anonymous 11:11, it's a fair question. As I also recall, they changed the law a few years ago not allowing any police officers to step onto the highway. So stick to the subject, respectfully. Did they change the law since then?
I thought that the police have to be in a car or truck to pull you over... I thought that they made it so cops can't walk in the street to flag you down...
I also thought that the cops who radared you has to be the one who issues you a violation not some random cop after some cop in a cherry picker hits you with the radar gun...
I thought the cop who saw you violate the law has to be the one to stop you or the like...
@11:11 Theirs always one slowpoke like you that replies to these things. People speed because they got stuck behind people like you going 10 under the limit and now have to make up time! Either never commit another crime in your life( This includes jaywalking!) or get out.
As far the law they might have relaxed it to make some more money.
I agree Joe it is a fair question! Did a Trooper get killed?
hey, cop on the first post, better watch out for that car that is texting and driving. . . .
it is so freaking dangerous. cars are PACKED up on fifty and this is gonna lead to a 25 car pileup one of these days and more than 1 person is gonna die
On the way to Ocean City I see it all the time. I swear it's a Superman ego thing, until "splat" happens.
It was not a LAW that was changed. It was an internal Maryland State Police policy by the Colonel at that time as a reaction to an accident. There was further review done and a new Colonel in charge of MSP now. The policy is now allowed for stationary radar traffic stops. Additional safety items such as wearing the safety vests, etc. are required. You would have to contact the Colonel directly at MSP Headquarters in Pikesville to inquire as to his thought processes.
That assumes the "colonel" has "thought processes".
Easy money for the state
just because there is a policy does NOT mean jack. PEOPLE are being put in harms way BY THE STATE POLICE. a LOT of people
This is a accident/killing waiting to happen...Unreal, What is the MSP Officials thinking?
I had a MSP officer jump on the road in front of me to stop a car behind me. The officer seemed to not even think there are other vehicles on the road doing 60mph. The cars in front of me and behind me saw that officer run into traffic and swerved hard to the right, some with their passenger wheels off the right side of the road. We should have had a pile up right there due to this cops actions. If they wanted to stop that guy for speeding then stay in their car and catch up to them.
I think that the poster in the beginning had an interesting question. I thought that in order to get a ticket, the officer had to see you speeding and have it verified by a speed device. How can another officer issue a ticket if he did not see the car speeding??
dogg
People please write or call MSP Colonel
Marcus Brown
1201 reinstertown road.
Pikesville Md
21208
410 653 4200.
i wish more people would get pulled over for texting and talking on the phone. Its obvious they can't do both at the same time while driving. I got behind a Lexus and this idiot driver missed the green light twice because she wasn't paying attention. She was on her phone.
1240 I Agree 100%
Bend those Baltimore, Washington and P.A. tourists over and get every penny we can squeeze out of them. Our money goes back over that bridge to support people that refuse to work, and their SNAP cards, take their collective butts to the bank!
If the drivers didn't speed and drive sensibly, then there would not a be a need for troopers to work stationary radar. As far as the officer that see's the infraction, writing the ticket, that is incorrect, as long as as the officer that is utilizing the radar is put on the citation (towards bottom of cite, line for radar operator). Instead of griping about troopers and officers running radar, try something different, SLOW Down!!!!!
Most are making good points here.
The trooper jumping into the lane may have a speed someone else called out to him/her but they have no control over the reaction time of the driver/s in question.
They could get injured or be the direct cause of other injuries if the driver swerves and crashes.
Bet your dollar if that happens they'll try to hang it on the motorist who was forced into evasive action by the trooper.
Two wrongs don't make a right! Find a safer way to fairly enforce.
They sit on route 50 about a mile or so from the State Police Barracks in Berlin every Friday. I have seen so many close calls this summer. Everyone traveling at 55 mph or more and all of a sudden the person in the left lane is getting pulled over and everyone is slamming on brakes. If 2 get pulled over on the right and left side of the road it becomes even more of a challenge. Now you have people slowing down due to the move over law and have to break the law of impeding traffic.
Nazi let them get whacked.
Cop stepped out in front of cars ahead of me and almost caused a pileup this afternoon at the same place on 50.
Would hate to see a trooper get wacked.
Some very fine young men enter the MSP and look like children when they first come into service. It breaks my heart when one gets killed for a thoughtless act. There is a certain breed out there that will follow blindly without thought of themselves. Sad.
i was on rt. 50 when radar was set up this summer. they had cars pulled over on each side of the road. now, by law i'm supposed to change lanes to avoid causing an accident. well what lane do i go to when cops have a vehicle on each side of the highway?
seriously, i drove right down the middle of rt. 50.
11:12
I have said the same thing over and over. I just went to the SHA website to look up what the law says. I thought if you could not move over you had to slow to 35 mph. It states you have to slow to a safe and reasonable speed. There is also something else I found,,,, A new law requires drivers approaching from the rear an emergency vehicle using visual signals while stopped on a highway to, if possible, ‘make a lane change into an available lane not immediately adjacent to the emergency vehicle.’
Since the police are not on the road with lights on does the move over law actually pertain to what is going on on route 50?
I keep hearing speeding, well on 50 this week a state policeman that lives in Hebron was passing every thing, he had to be running 75. He was in and out of lanes with out signals (yes i know using signals for lane changes is not the law)but come on he's speeding, let me know your going to pull in on me! I find out later he drives every day to work , this was close to the bay bridge.
I by the way am anonymous becouse i don't want to be harass, this also happens.
A few weeks ago I got pulled over about 50 yards in front of other 50 s speed trap. The Trooper that pulled me over had followed me from Hobbs road in Salisbury. This Trooper pulled me over, not for speeding, but for not wearing a seatbelt. The punch line? I was wearing my seatbelt, but had the shoulder strap under my arm. Due to the model of my car, it is difficult to see if the seatbelt is in use. This Trooper caught attitude as soon as he pulled me over, probably because I waited to pull over until I was in front of the speed trap (In order to warn other drivers of the trap). This Trooper had run my license (without cause since my tags were up to date and I was not speeding)and saw I had received a warning in OC the week before. He gave me a warning and a lecture that I had to wear the seatbelt properly according to the law. I looked at the law, it says this NO WHERE! I agree I am taking a risk with my life by not wearing the seatbelt over my chest, but it is not against the law. I love Law enforcement officers, but this kind of crap is a waste of their time and mine.
We have allowed this 'cop mentality' to manifest. It's our fault and it needs to be changed. Oversight of leos needs to be taken up by a civilian agency with an agenda to force law-enforcement operate within the law.
Heh.., ain't that the ultimate oxymoron.., "make law-enforcement operate within the law".
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