Calling/Requesting 3 additional stations from Wicomico County to send ambulances to assist Somerset County
4 priority ones.....starting aviation
Trooper 4 has a 17 minute ETA.
Princess Anne and Mt. Vernon on the scene.
Published at 7:32 AM
Princess Anne and Mt. Vernon on the scene.
Published at 7:32 AM
Why do you need a helicopter to fly a patient to PRMC? WTF!! Last time I checked PRMC was only 10 minutes away. I bet the 3 going by ground beats the helicopter to the hospital. WE NEED A REAL MEDICAL DIRECTOR instead of some goof ball that just wants the title only.
ReplyDeleteWho are u?
DeleteThe reason they called the helicopter is because the need to go to Johns Hopkins and not PRMC those patients are critical and need a little bit more than what PRMC can offer.
DeletePlease stop being ignorant and read the article above.
DeleteBy the time the patients are cut out ,it could be an hour. Oneor more may be redirected to Baltimore. Having the helicopter ready could shave alot of time off a response. Since you don't know squat about the fire service or ems join and learn how things work.
DeleteDear anomyous let's pray you don't find yourself in a similar position. Instead of criticism for our learned medical professionals how about prayers for the victims
DeleteThey all made the right decision , thankfully they transported all of us cause they couldn't move none of us in a vehicle cause broken bones and internal injuries to ship us their quicker , thanks to shock trauma saviglng my life and all the ems and police , thank you
DeleteFruitland Fire Department is transporting a "possible trauma arrest" to PRMC. WTF!! It's either a trauma arrest or it's not. Do you think the patient is just taking a nap!
ReplyDeleteOn a not scene like this, this transmission is not made by the EMS providers caring for the patient. It's made by the officer in charge of scene command. I can assure that the EMS personnel were not unsure whether it was a trauma arrest, however the scene commander may have been.
DeleteFrom another call worthy of mentioning.
ReplyDeleteWorcester Central to Paramedic 600A-1, 20 minutes on scene.
Worcester Central to Paramedic 600A-1, 20 minutes on scene.
Paramedic 600A-1 - "I'm OK patient care."
Really? AGH is 5 minutes away in any direction and you are doing patient care? Was this a scheduled surgery?
What is up with MIEMSS and it's Medical Directors? Isn't anyone doing any real true Quality Assurance on these wannabe paramedics. No wonder people don't respect Fire Based EMS and paramedics.
didnt they go to prmc?
DeleteIt's now 8:37 AM and the helicopter Trooper 4 is finally lifting off for Shock Trauma without even seeing a doctor yet. The helicopter was initially going to PRMC.
ReplyDeleteThis is not a decision that is made by either the trooper medic, the ground EMS personnel, nor PRMC. Shock Truama is a level 1 trauma center and trumps EVERYONE! In these situations a dual hospital consult is made to both PRMC and to Shock Truama, if the online physician at Shock Trauma says to bring the patient to Shock Trauma then that is what you are required to do. Neither the online physician at PRMC, trooper medic, or ground EMS personnel have the authority to to trump the order made by the Shock Truama online physician, unless at some point the patient's condition worsens to a point where they are not stable enough for the 40min flight.
DeleteGod bless shock trauma for saving my life that day , it was the worse thing I experience in my life , wouldn't put it on anyone all of us survived , and me far as I went the reason they took me there because I was on the verge of not making it
DeleteJoe you posted this at 7:32 AM and the helicopter left the scene at 8:37 AM. WTH!! That Maryland State Police Helicopter has been on the scene for over an hour with a trauma patient. The helicopter transport time to Baltimore is 30 minutes. How much time has that patient been injured without even seeing a doctor. A real doctor, not a road doctor.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention that a patient possibly died in that accident and another has a massive open compound fracture.
Has anyone ever heard of the Golden Hour???
To Hell with MIEMSS now, someone needs to contact the MSP Medical Director Dr. Flocarre and Governor Hogan. MIEMSS is obviously not going to do anything about these Rogue Hillbilly Farmin. This is pathetic!!
Have you ever heard of extended extrication? Believe it or not, it actually take a fair bit of time to safely (for both the patient and responders) cut a person out of a car. It's not unheard of what so ever for it to take 30-60min to extricate a heavily entrapped patient.
DeleteThe comments on here are just shameful. Not one commenter was on the scene. Nor do they know the training that MSP aviation goes through. Additionally the medics are in constant contact with the hospitals.
ReplyDeleteInstead of spouting hate, why not get educated about the fire, ems and police fields. No system or person is perfect, but unlike you, they do their best to help those in need.
Stop the hate.
You all are idiots. Clearly NONE of you are MSP Paramedics. I would venture to say their training is far superior to your local firehouse paramedic. They deal with Shock Trauma and their docs on a daily basis. Have constant training at superior medical centers in Baltimore. They have protocols on stabilizing patients and are in constant communications with Shock Trauma. They are not "snatch and go" which is apparently what some of you think should be done. When they are on the ground, they are fighting to save the patient.
ReplyDeleteAlso, your local hospital PRMC tells Aviation they will not accept some patients and to fly by. They know they can't handle them and don't want the possible mortality on their record. So much for them being a real Trauma Center.
Sorry but NREMT Paramedic/Nationally Certified Paramedic has the same education requirements throughout the country. MSP medics do not go through a special school to become a paramedic, they go to the exact same schools that your local firehouse paramedics go through. I can assure you that as per their NRP certification requirements are the exact same as your local fire house paramedic's NRP recertification requirements (48hr ALS refresher, ACLS, CPR, and 24hrs of additional pre-hospital continuing education courses bi-annually).
DeleteNot to degrade Trooper 4's medics what so ever but to think they are superior to your local fire house paramedic is asinine considering they may transport 4-5 patients per week, versus your average fire house paramedic transports 4-10 patients per shift. Over the course of a year, the fire house paramedic renders care to 10 times as many patients as a Trooper 4 paramedic.
Maybe it took them a while to get the person out and stable so they could fly. Not saying they don't need an overhaul but if it was that bad of an accident then maybe it did require extra time to get situated
ReplyDelete8:18 evidently you don't know your geography too well, West Post Office & Perry Hawkins is at a minimum of 30 minutes maybe longer
ReplyDeleteHow was the accident?
ReplyDeleteAnd if they are been seeing in PRMC I hope they get good care,because seriously this people don't know hw to do their job!
how 'bout you computer doctors leave your names - you will be useful to the lawyers representing those wishing to bring lawsuit - sure a lot factual info being commented on here by expert medical personnel
ReplyDeleteTo All: Do you have any idea how many lives have been saved by Paramedics. Many times they perform medical procedures before lift off. As a Purple Heart combat Veteran the same can be said for Medics in the field. Yes the Golden Hour is critical as is the Golden Minutes by these professionals.
ReplyDeleteAs a firefighter, paramedic, and a veteran, thank you for your service and support sir.
DeleteArm chair medical experts.
ReplyDeleteYou friggin people need to get a life.
ReplyDeleteIf you get involved in a serious accident you just might be better off crawling to the hospital. It will be quicker anyway.
ReplyDeleteYou all are just a bunch of "Monday morning quarterbacks" that have never even played football.
ReplyDelete8:18 It's for revenue! That flight is going to cost someone, or some insurance company about $20K! Not too bad for 30 minutes!
ReplyDeleteNo Maryland state tax payer receives a bill for a MSP trooper flight, this was put into affect in the 1970's.
Delete9:35 MSP does not bill for helicopter transport everyone who had Maryland licenses plates pay an extra $10.00 per year that goes into MSP's budget so if your vehicle is tagged in Maryland you are helping to pay for it.
ReplyDeleteAs an FYI the Allan Fire Department ambulance from that MVC just left the hospital available and it's 9:59 AM.. Excuse me, but you posted this a 7:32 AM. WTH have they been doing for 2 and a half hours??
ReplyDeleteSo that means that the ambulance from the Allan Fire Department was not available to handles calls in Somerset County, oooops I meant Allan.
I don't know the exact situation, however I understand that there were multiple priority 1 patients transported from this scene. You have to look at how long it took to get this patient ready for transport. Was this patient entrapped and required rescue which can take quite a bit of time. On top of that, according to Dr. Todd, the regional medical director, all priority 1 paperwork is required to be completed at the hospital and you are to be out of service while completing it. A priority 1 PCR (patient care report) can take anywhere from 30-50min to complete as it is quite extensive and needs to be very thorough.
DeleteIgnore the post they don't even know it's Allen not Allan
Delete9:27 - thanks for the sanity. some of these commenters are clearly ignorant of the facts.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThe comments on here are just shameful. Not one commenter was on the scene. Nor do they know the training that MSP aviation goes through. Additionally the medics are in constant contact with the hospitals.
Instead of spouting hate, why not get educated about the fire, ems and police fields. No system or person is perfect, but unlike you, they do their best to help those in need.
Stop the hate.
April 15, 2016 at 8:53 AM
i be uh farmin so u be stoppin da hait.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteYou all are idiots. Clearly NONE of you are MSP Paramedics. I would venture to say their training is far superior to your local firehouse paramedic. They deal with Shock Trauma and their docs on a daily basis. Have constant training at superior medical centers in Baltimore. They have protocols on stabilizing patients and are in constant communications with Shock Trauma. They are not "snatch and go" which is apparently what some of you think should be done. When they are on the ground, they are fighting to save the patient.
Also, your local hospital PRMC tells Aviation they will not accept some patients and to fly by. They know they can't handle them and don't want the possible mortality on their record. So much for them being a real Trauma Center.
April 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM
Um, this is the same person that posted 8:53 AM. You are a pitiful Holster Sniffer. You lower your standard and put a Trooper Medic on a pedestal because you idolize a man in a uniform. Is your name Ireton?
So glad to see so many on here praying for those in the accident. Please know the accident victims are in my thoughts and prayer and God if possible i wish them a quick recovery
ReplyDelete.
As for you jerks who think you know exactly how medics should be doing their job, stop your uneducated bitching. Read 8:53 AM, 9:03 AM, 9:19 AM, 9:27 AM and 9:31 AM comments for an education on procedure before mouthing off about something you know nothing about.
Anon 9;34 I pray that you do not have children as your fast food comment is a direct slap in the face to first responders. What comes around goes around!
ReplyDeleteAny news on condition of the individuals? Was on site briefly...left once first responders arrived. Would like to know how those involved faired.
ReplyDeleteEveryone Survied .
DeleteFor the person above that said the hospitals are 5/10 mins away from the scene ... Get your map out. PRMC is a good 15 min ride by ambulance IF traffic is good. AGH is about 30 minutes from this location.
ReplyDeleteMSP paramedics receive training above the "requirements". How many locals take rotations at Shock Trauma, University of Maryland and Johns Hopkins?
ReplyDeleteMSP Aviation is considered the best in the world for a reason.
Many "locals" have taken rotations at shock trauma to be an inferior firehouse Paramedic like myself. It's required in the Paramedic program I attended.
DeleteSo many haters! Wonder why their lives are so miserable
ReplyDeleteU of MD Shock Trauma instructs the helicopter when to leave so they arrive at a precise time. It's a fine tuned system and they can not have helicopters landing indiscriminately. The centers trauma staff are busy at all times and resources aren't unlimited.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as someone who needed that helicopter to take me to the hospital...I thank God for these men and women who are there when things cant get any worse. They are professional life savers. God bless the people who are being transported.
ReplyDeleteanon 10:04 If a ems personnel take a critical patient to PRMC or any hospital they have to complete the report there. Also the ambulance has be to cleaned and restocked prior to going back in service which can take hours. On a call like this one blood could be all over the back of the ambulance special tools have to be cleaned ect.
ReplyDeleteWow look at all these comments. It doesn't take long for all these dumb farmin to hear about it and come out of the woodwork to spew their ignorance.
ReplyDeleteWe know you wrote over half of these posts as you have an issue with fire/ems instead of posting under anonymous you should be using farmin. Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about 100% of the time. Smh
DeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe it took them a while to get the person out and stable so they could fly. Not saying they don't need an overhaul but if it was that bad of an accident then maybe it did require extra time to get situated
April 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM
The protocol is to extract the patient as quickly and safely as possible. It's called "Load and Go" not "Stay and Play!!!"
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletehow 'bout you computer doctors leave your names - you will be useful to the lawyers representing those wishing to bring lawsuit - sure a lot factual info being commented on here by expert medical personnel
April 15, 2016 at 9:12 AM
I noticed you didn't leave your name, but don't worry we already know who you are. You are DumbA$$!!
BTW I am glad you mentioned lawyers because the families are going to need one. As a matter of fact this isn't the first time that Princess Anne has been sued.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteHave you ever heard of extended extrication? Believe it or not, it actually take a fair bit of time to safely (for both the patient and responders) cut a person out of a car. It's not unheard of what so ever for it to take 30-60min to extricate a heavily entrapped patient.
April 15, 2016 at 9:31 AM
Have you ever heard of CYA?
Have you ever heard of going back to high school to get a formal education?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteTo All: Do you have any idea how many lives have been saved by Paramedics. Many times they perform medical procedures before lift off. As a Purple Heart combat Veteran the same can be said for Medics in the field. Yes the Golden Hour is critical as is the Golden Minutes by these professionals.
April 15, 2016 at 9:15 AM
Uh, yes. That's why we are commenting on this ignorance.
Thank you for your service, but you don't know what it is like to be a paramedic in the field.
The accident happened at Palmetto Church Road, farther out from Princess Anne than Perryhawkin Road, and it's a good 20-25 minutes to PRMC from there. But all this chatter is nonsense. Sounds like someone has an issue with paramedics.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDelete8:18 It's for revenue! That flight is going to cost someone, or some insurance company about $20K! Not too bad for 30 minutes!
April 15, 2016 at 9:35 AM
The cost would be more like $40,000 if flown by a private chopper, but since this is the MSP Helicopter they will not be charging the patient. This person will be getting a free ride on the tax payers thanks to the negligence and inexperience of the wannabe paramedics.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSorry but NREMT Paramedic/Nationally Certified Paramedic has the same education requirements throughout the country. MSP medics do not go through a special school to become a paramedic, they go to the exact same schools that your local firehouse paramedics go through. I can assure you that as per their NRP certification requirements are the exact same as your local fire house paramedic's NRP recertification requirements (48hr ALS refresher, ACLS, CPR, and 24hrs of additional pre-hospital continuing education courses bi-annually).
Not to degrade Trooper 4's medics what so ever but to think they are superior to your local fire house paramedic is asinine considering they may transport 4-5 patients per week, versus your average fire house paramedic transports 4-10 patients per shift. Over the course of a year, the fire house paramedic renders care to 10 times as many patients as a Trooper 4 paramedic.
April 15, 2016 at 9:50 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Some of these dumb part time paramedics think that because a Sky God shows up in a chopper that they have so much more experience than most paramedics. I am so glad that you corrected this because I am really embarrassed for most of these hillbilly fireman paramedics.
Maryland should mimic the state of Delaware for certifying Paramedics. You have to be employed by a County such as Sussex and pass rigorous standards to become a Paramedic in Delaware. If you don't cut it you are just a firehouse EMT and we all would be much better off.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete9:35 MSP does not bill for helicopter transport everyone who had Maryland licenses plates pay an extra $10.00 per year that goes into MSP's budget so if your vehicle is tagged in Maryland you are helping to pay for it.
April 15, 2016 at 10:03 AM
Another Hillbilly smart mouth know it all that doesn't know Sh!t!! You rednecks are an embarrassment and you shouldn't be running your mouths!
Fees for Registration Plates
In the classes identified below, vehicles will be registered for two (2) years at time of titling or at the time registration is renewed. The following fees include the yearly $17.00 surcharge for the EMS system, except where noted otherwise.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteAs a firefighter, paramedic, and a veteran, thank you for your service and support sir.
April 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM
Another idiot! At no point did he say he was a firefighter or a paramedic or a sir!
Wow, what a troll. He did however show appreciation for our first responders, which as one I thanked him. I guess you never took English Comprehension.
DeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteAnon 9;34 I pray that you do not have children as your fast food comment is a direct slap in the face to first responders. What comes around goes around!
April 15, 2016 at 10:20 AM
If the shoe fits, wear it!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteAnon 9;34 I pray that you do not have children as your fast food comment is a direct slap in the face to first responders. What comes around goes around!
April 15, 2016 at 10:20 AM
Your comment is a direct slap in the face to fast food workers.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteFor the person above that said the hospitals are 5/10 mins away from the scene ... Get your map out. PRMC is a good 15 min ride by ambulance IF traffic is good. AGH is about 30 minutes from this location.
April 15, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Did anyone say anything about transporting those patients to AGH? NO so STFU!
What happened to the moron that said it was 30 minutes to PRMC, now you are saying it is 15?
Bunch of dumb Farmin trying to cover their butts and protect their jobs.
I will agree that the hospital is 15 minutes by ambulance so that means the patient can see a trauma doctor in 15 minutes instead of waiting in a helicopter for an hour and then a 40 minute flight. So will you agree that someone screwed up?
If you know so much about pre-hospital care and procedures, heavy rescue operations, dual consults and request for medical aviation, and scene command, then by all means prove any of us wrong...This is what I do for a living, I have over 140 college credits in biology, paramedicine, incident management, and fire ground operations. I've also responded on well over 1000 911 calls for service.
ReplyDeleteWhat's your experience and educational background on the topic?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteMSP paramedics receive training above the "requirements". How many locals take rotations at Shock Trauma, University of Maryland and Johns Hopkins?
MSP Aviation is considered the best in the world for a reason.
April 15, 2016 at 10:50 AM
You are an idiot. Prove that the MSP paramedics do rotations at JHU and the STC? Prove that our local paramedics don't? Prove that MSP Paramedics are better than our local paramedics. I bet you can't.
This call is proof that the MSP Paramedics are not any better because of their 1 hour scene time is neglect. Yes I was there and I know. If you looked around you would have seen me observing everything going on and I am going to report it.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteMaybe it took them a while to get the person out and stable so they could fly. Not saying they don't need an overhaul but if it was that bad of an accident then maybe it did require extra time to get situated
April 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM
So please tell me what someone has to do to make a patient "Stable?" I bet you can't!! What ever it was could have been done in the ambulance and there is really nothing to do to make a patient stable. If it was a cardiac arrest they won't fly the patient.
Wow, talk about ignorance. "There is really nothing to do to make a patient stable". So I guess this whole division of medicine called emergency medicine is completely made up?
DeleteDo you realize how stupid that sounded?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSo glad to see so many on here praying for those in the accident. Please know the accident victims are in my thoughts and prayer and God if possible i wish them a quick recovery
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As for you jerks who think you know exactly how medics should be doing their job, stop your uneducated bitching. Read 8:53 AM, 9:03 AM, 9:19 AM, 9:27 AM and 9:31 AM comments for an education on procedure before mouthing off about something you know nothing about.
April 15, 2016 at 10:14 AM
Oh I am praying for these patients and I am praying they never have to go through what they did with these clown first responder wannabes. I have a feeling you are one of those morons! Don't throw out the "praying" bullshit to deflect your peoples stupidity.
Blogger Someone said...
ReplyDeleteSo many haters! Wonder why their lives are so miserable
April 15, 2016 at 10:55 AM
It has nothing to do with hating you dummy. It has to do with your stupidity and neglect.
I love how you Farmin have come up with a new race card to drop. "Haters" LMAO
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThe reason they called the helicopter is because the need to go to Johns Hopkins and not PRMC those patients are critical and need a little bit more than what PRMC can offer.
April 15, 2016 at 11:20 AM
What a lame excuse. I was there and I saw what the patients needed and they didn't need this rodeo put on by a bunch of volunteer firemen and wannabe paramedics.
So why didn't you offer up your expertise?
DeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteIf you know so much about pre-hospital care and procedures, heavy rescue operations, dual consults and request for medical aviation, and scene command, then by all means prove any of us wrong...This is what I do for a living, I have over 140 college credits in biology, paramedicine, incident management, and fire ground operations. I've also responded on well over 1000 911 calls for service.
What's your experience and educational background on the topic?
April 15, 2016 at 1:52 PM
BFD!! I outrank you by far! I was there and I know what you shorebillies do. YOU would never make it in a real EMS System.
I am glad you got that off your chest to make you feel better so you can now go deflate your ego.
By the way you just embarrassed yourself and our profession.
Assumptions... I may be a volunteer firefighter here on the eastern shore, but I'm a career FF/Paramedic across the bridge.
DeleteOh and to rep Baltimore FD, that's funny.
If I was from BFD I would be embarrassed by your unfounded, unprofessional, uneducated and ridiculous statements. It's no wonder they are always in the news and not for a good reason.
DeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI don't know the exact situation, however I understand that there were multiple priority 1 patients transported from this scene. You have to look at how long it took to get this patient ready for transport. Was this patient entrapped and required rescue which can take quite a bit of time. On top of that, according to Dr. Todd, the regional medical director, all priority 1 paperwork is required to be completed at the hospital and you are to be out of service while completing it. A priority 1 PCR (patient care report) can take anywhere from 30-50min to complete as it is quite extensive and needs to be very thorough.
April 15, 2016 at 1:34 PM
LIAR! YOU are trying to cover your butt and Dr. Todd has nothing to do with this call. EMAIS or PCR's are regulated by MIEMSS Protocol. By the way you don't have to use PCR and then write it out as if you said something important. Two and a half hours filling out a computer report is pathetic. I hope your bosses at AFD fire your lazy ass.
This needs to be back at the top to show the public how their tax dollars are wasted and lives are lost.
ReplyDeleteAbout ten years ago our son took his 2nd chopper ride . The troopers revived him once on the ground , again in the air , and Dr.scalia and staff did a third time !!when my wife and I arrived at shock trauma ,we were greeted by Dr. Scalia he said the team did their job and did it well ! He examined the Golden Hour ! We are Grateful for his team and the troopers who fly for us . So I say to you jealous knuckleheads Get a Life ! Thanks MSP
ReplyDeleteIf you are so unhappy with the level of care and decision\s made by the FD & EMS, why don't you move to an area that has what you want?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteIf you know so much about pre-hospital care and procedures, heavy rescue operations, dual consults and request for medical aviation, and scene command, then by all means prove any of us wrong...This is what I do for a living, I have over 140 college credits in biology, paramedicine, incident management, and fire ground operations. I've also responded on well over 1000 911 calls for service.
What's your experience and educational background on the topic?
April 15, 2016 at 1:52 PM
This little boy is trying to impress someone with his fake 140 college credits. Do us a favor little boy show us your transcript that proves you have 140 "College Credits."
First of all incident management and fireground operations isn't really college credit. Anyone that takes a paramedic program gets "credit hours" but you really can't apply them to a bachelors degree in which I notice you never mentioned. As a matter of fact I see you failed to mention anything about an associates degree so this proves to me that you are all talk. One thousand 911 calls? Wow!! I am really impressed since over 90% of EMS calls are for basic life support transport only. So this tells me you may have attempted 100 IV's? Big F'n Deal! I trust an RN over you any day!
It's people like you that ruin the field of Emergency Medical Services. All talk and no action, little boy!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThe accident happened at Palmetto Church Road, farther out from Princess Anne than Perryhawkin Road, and it's a good 20-25 minutes to PRMC from there. But all this chatter is nonsense. Sounds like someone has an issue with paramedics.
April 15, 2016 at 1:23 PM
A good 20-25 minutes to PRMC? So that means you don't know how far it is either, but you decided to run your mouth.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteYou all are idiots. Clearly NONE of you are MSP Paramedics. I would venture to say their training is far superior to your local firehouse paramedic. They deal with Shock Trauma and their docs on a daily basis. Have constant training at superior medical centers in Baltimore. They have protocols on stabilizing patients and are in constant communications with Shock Trauma. They are not "snatch and go" which is apparently what some of you think should be done. When they are on the ground, they are fighting to save the patient.
Also, your local hospital PRMC tells Aviation they will not accept some patients and to fly by. They know they can't handle them and don't want the possible mortality on their record. So much for them being a real Trauma Center.
April 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM
I bet this Trooper Scooper feels something run down his leg every time he sees the MSP Chopper and the men in uniform.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteYou all are idiots. Clearly NONE of you are MSP Paramedics. I would venture to say their training is far superior to your local firehouse paramedic. They deal with Shock Trauma and their docs on a daily basis. Have constant training at superior medical centers in Baltimore. They have protocols on stabilizing patients and are in constant communications with Shock Trauma. They are not "snatch and go" which is apparently what some of you think should be done. When they are on the ground, they are fighting to save the patient.
Also, your local hospital PRMC tells Aviation they will not accept some patients and to fly by. They know they can't handle them and don't want the possible mortality on their record. So much for them being a real Trauma Center.
April 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM
Um, when was the last time they went on fly by? Rarely ever to Never. I heard them one time and that was because the CT Scan was down.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteMSP paramedics receive training above the "requirements". How many locals take rotations at Shock Trauma, University of Maryland and Johns Hopkins?
MSP Aviation is considered the best in the world for a reason.
April 15, 2016 at 10:50 AM
WTH?? Who considers MSP Aviation the best in the world and please cite your source?? Better yet leave your name!
Move this to the top please. I see it is going to be your top post of the week on Sunday!
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know the identities of these victims yet?
ReplyDeleteWhenever possible the MSP copter is called in to help pay for it. If a person has good insurance,( and they know this because they check your ID and cards in your wallet), maintenance on a helicopter is $10,000 a week.
ReplyDeleteThat's flat out funny, I have never, ever asked to see or even so much as looked at a patients insurance card.
DeleteWhat part of NO MARYLAND RESIDENT GETS BILLED FOR A MSP AVIATION TRANSPORT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND.
The ignorance by the trolls on this page is astounding! I can't believe you people can actually tie your own shoes.
Well, I know nothing of the accident, but I do know, no firemen will lose their jobs. Unless things have changed, the paramedic or possibly paramedics are paid, the rest are volunteers. Some may get a per incident stipend, if they drive the ambulance. I have been on several accident scenes with prolonged extrications, and also been there when it seems like forever before the ambulance leaves for the hospital. Extrication, triage, assessing and stabilizing the patients and injuries, IV establishment, all take time.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I know, most volunteer departments are short handed, so all the armchair experts and internet heroes, could easily find a place to share their expertise. I've always found it funny the number of people who complain and second guess and critique peoplet who volunteer, or chose a career of public service. Be glad they were able to get that amount of equipment and help on the road at 730 in the morning, when a lot of you are headed to work or still asleep.
4;40. Seriously? People are saving you in a crash and take the time to rout through your wallet to see if they think you have enough dough to pay for a helicopter? Of all the really stupid comments on this post, that one takes the cake.
ReplyDeleteWow just wow!! Have you seen the picture on Eastern Shore Fire/Ems/Police Breaking News?? There are 2 pictures on there that tell the story of this morning. The first was the white truck that is turned on the side. The second is a picture of what is left of a car (I assume it's a car. could be a small truck). Regardless of which, I know that there were 5 patients transported from the scene. I know that 4 of them were major trauma victims taken to PRMC. I know the other one was flown up the road. What I don't understand is all of you who have something crappy to say about the decision to fly a patient up the road or not?? The fastest, safest way to transport a critical patient is to have aviation land and transport them via helicopter. If it was your family member that would have been involved, you would have wanted them flown up the road. So I don't know why people are in such an uproar over this. I think A&E did a documentary where they filmed inside of Shock Trauma last year. If you see it on you should watch it. Try educating yourself instead of hiding behind a keyboard.
ReplyDeletePuppies out and emts in. The complainers have a new topic today!
ReplyDeleteThe jaws of life , right Chris , you da man , you gotta tattoo that says so ,
ReplyDeleteAS a old fire/rescue person, I know that we do go thru the wallets of people. If you are an organ donor we need to keep the body alive to get the viable organs. We also need the name of next of kin to get them the news about your life or death.
ReplyDeleteNOPE all false, the myth that our changes if you are an organ donor or not is completely false. I've never done it and I've never seen any one of my colleagues do it. On top of that, it is in no way the responsibility of the fire/EMS personnel to contact your next of kin for details. WE DON'T DO THIS! It is the responsibility of the law enforcement and the receiving hospital. You just keep sprewing false information. I'd bet that it's you who has made most of these completely false statements. Just a big troll who wants to feel important.
DeleteSome countries, not the US, put your blood type on your license.
ReplyDeleteno where can i find info on this accident but on sbynews - and the information on here has nothing to do with the accident victims - only spews of hatred against anything medical -
ReplyDeletei do appreciate the few who tried to explain protocol with accidents and victims - imo it would have been less harmful if the trashing by geniuses who know exactly how to "save a life" had gone directly to the delete bin.
prayers to the injured
The comments on here about this accident are ludicrous and certainly uncalled for. I would dare say none of you were there, none of you have paramedic or EMS or flight training. Hopefully, you will never be the people involved in such an accident and need all the help you can get. There are many circumstances that none of you are aware of when something like this happens and there are protocols in place. Yes, Delaware has a great program and if Maryland is lagging behind, maybe they should catch up, but that does not mean the fire/EMS/paramedics on scene did not know what they were doing. And, just so you know, the person airlifted to Baltimore has survived so far.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, I never comment on blogs but felt obligated to say something in behalf of the EMS personnel on scene. Unlike most of you, I was on scene and assisted until more units arrived. In fact I was on scene before any units arrived. Emergency personnel did their jobs and did them well. The fact that these people left the scene alive is in itself a miracle. I am in no way a medical expert or Doctor, but I did get some training in the field of trauma serving as an Army Medic for 9yrs.
ReplyDeleteFor you idiots who don't work in the Emergency response field here is something for you to take a look at it is what makes us make the decisions to fly or not. http://www.maryland-traumanet.com/resources/maryland-decision-tree/
ReplyDeleteI'm an organ donor you idiots...bend over !
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the puppies. They need more "expert" commenters too.
ReplyDeleteMSP Aviation is the gold standard for other states and many countries. The comments on here are an example of your ignorance. The dumbest comment of all is the one about checking to see if you can pay for the transport. No wonder people laugh at the Eastern Shore. You are embarrassingly stupid.
ReplyDeleteI"m the Uncle of the patient that was sent to shock Trauma, they had to cut him out of the car, their efforts saved my nephews life and we appreciate everything that was done, he had very serious injuries and is still in a induced coma to alleviate his pain, we his family appreciate the rescuers, fire company medical personnel and police at the scene as well as others who participated in saving Bobby"s life. Thank You Thank you all, you are a blessing. So to those of you who are spouting against the emergency personnel I would ask that you stop, there is always improvements that can be made but lets not second guess these wonderful persons efforts.
ReplyDeleteThank you Mr Bailey for an update on your nephew and your statement asking those who think they know more than the emergency teams to please stop "spouting off". Yours was the 102nd comment on this site and sadly that was about 90 more comments than should have been posted about the accident.
DeleteThe publisher of the blog should have monitored and deleted the comments of people who have no knowledge of emergency teams. Perhaps monitors on this blog have no knowledge either of how accident scenes are tended. Now that several people have explained in detail the protocol, hopefully we will never see such vilifications of medical emergency on this site again.
Prayers to your nephew and all hurt in this terrible accident
Cecil Bailey - well said! The goal of all emergency personnel is to save lives. That should always be foremost!
ReplyDeleteWhile we are bitching about EMS...someone should tell the Princess Anne Ambulances to stop blocking the exit in front of Hardee's every damn morning.If you have a larger car or truck,you cannot exit the drive-thru to the left.Why can't they park in the back lot like all the other larger commercial vehicles do????
ReplyDeleteTry making breakfast at home and you won't need the eat fast junk food at Hardees every morning. Problem solved.
ReplyDeleteAnd they were going to work.
DeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteYou all are a bunch of pathetic keyboard gangsters. I'm sure not one of you making ignorant connects were on scene nor are you qualified to save someone's life in an event such as todays accident. Shut up and keep the injured and their families in your thoughts.
ReplyDeleteTo let the one.s know who child was not in that car my daughter was and she has a long road to heal she has a lot of broken bones, and almost lost her life and the other girl with her is like my daughter to she was taking to Baltimore with the other man in the car. So if you don't know the story then don't post what you don't know this could have been child stuck in a car for a hour-.
ReplyDeleteTwo was shipped to shock trama
ReplyDeleteUpdate is needed on this story, but to let you all know my daughter is still in the Hospital and in a lot of pain, she had 2 broken wrists, broken leg, a broken eye socket, and a broken elbow, she has had 3 operations, a total of 25 hours in the operation room. And she still has a long way to go. So if you are people with souls pray for her.
ReplyDeleteSo glad no one lost their life, we say this car right after the accident and thought no one could have survived. Thank God they did and many prayers and blessings to all.
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