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So... supply and demand. Go figure...
ReplyDeleteCapitalism at work...
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ReplyDeleteIf you can't afford a gun you shouldn't own one.
ReplyDeleteHey guess what not so smart people...
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think will happen now that DOE RUN Lead smelter is closed? they were the ones making bulk lead and lead for bullets... We now have to import lead or import ammo not to mention they are making a fully copper bullet which of course is expensive and of course will make copper prices rise...
but didn't obama bin laden or eric holder say the will get gun control one way or another? well here is your another, the EPA...
Also go online to find out how many millions of rounds various federal, state and local government departments have purchased over the last 12 months. Agencies like the US Postal Service, Dept. of Homeland Security, the Environmental Protection Agency etc. It's as if they were preparing for war!
ReplyDelete1003, that is not gun control clown. Still plenty of supply for ammo lead, even if its not made in the US. You are mixing two entirely different issues
ReplyDeletePoster 11:08 if you get rid of smelters of lead and you slow production of refined lead even if you have to import it and bullets need lead, how is this not gun control?
ReplyDeleteCan your gun shoot without ammo? NO it can not, so in that case it is gun control...
Secondly, where are you going to get lead if there are no smelters left in the USA? import it like i said? then that would raise the price of ammo, and wouldn't that too be a form of gun control?
You need to learn that, any policy or any manufacturer or smelter or anyone of anything who makes it harder or more inconvenient for you to get guns or ammo, then THAT IS A FORM OF GUN CONTROL... PERIOD!!!
AND IF THE GOVT uses the EPA to place regulations on places like smelters and they have to close because each year the policies get more ridiculous, than that to is a form of gun control...
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ReplyDeleteCompanies like Doe Run will continue to manufacture the lead used in ammunition because most ammunition in the United States is made from recycled lead that comes from secondary smelters.
“[T]he majority of the lead used by ammunition manufacturers comes from secondary smelters that recycle lead from car batteries,” Bob Owens of Bearing Arms wrote.
Doe Run has a secondary smelter facility in southern Missouri.
Ammo Manufactures Have Their Say
The Sierra Bullet Company said recently that it’s not worried about the Doe Run closure.
“Sierra uses no primary lead at all and never has, so we use nothing directly from this facility,” the company said in a statement on its website. “[W]e do not see any reason for alarm. We expect our supply to continue and keep feeding our production lines which are still running 24 hours per day to return our inventory levels to where they should be.”
“No impact upon any cast bullet manufacturing operation whatever. We do not use virgin lead, which is what Doe Run provided,” Brad Alpert, operations manager for the Missouri Bullet Company, told TheBlaze in an email. “We use foundry alloy from major foundries derived from scrap sources, purified and cleaned to purity.”
Fact Check: Did Obama Close a Lead Plant in Order to Enact Backdoor Gun Control?
“Employees wear protective gear to keep themselves safe as they work to produce lead metals and alloys critical to modern society,” the company’s site reads. (Image source: Doe Run Company)
“The jacketed bullets companies (Winchester, Remington, Federal, et al.) use the same sources that we do,” Alpert wrote.
Steve Weliver of Cape Fear Arsenal added in an email to TheBlaze: “We have not begun production at rates that this will impact.”
“At this time we do not anticipate any additional strain on our ability to obtain lead,” Tim Brandt of ATK, the parent company of Federal Premium, CCI, and Speer ammunition, said in reference to the Herculaneum closure in a company FAQ.
Roughly 80 percent of “lead used in the United States secondary market (which is what most ammunition manufacturers use) comes from recycled batteries and another 7 percent to 9 percent of lead on the market comes from other scrap sources,” Owens reported, citing Daniel Hill, Operations Manager at Mayco Industries. “Only 10 percent of the lead in the U.S. comes from mining.”
Simply put, the shuttering of the Herculaneum facility could have an impact as far as demand for primary lead is concerned — but it’s questionable whether that will affect the ammunition market. The lead used in ammunition will still be available and it would seem like a stretch to say that the EPA forcing a Missouri plant to shut down is a “back door” ploy to enact stricter gun control.
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Bottom Line
President Obama had little, if anything, to do with the longstanding battle between the EPA and the Doe Run Company. Further, if one is to take ammunition manufactures at their word, it does not appear that the Herculaneum closure will have any affect on the availability of ammunition in the United States.
I wouldn't say that there is a shortage on lead. I reload all of my centerfire ammo and I have had no problem getting projectiles nor had my bullet prices go up during all of this mess. The only problem I have had so far is finding primers and powder and that is mainly because Gander Mountain quit carrying primers and powder for metallic reloading. I can still get them a another local gun shop or online (if I buy enough to justify the hazardous shipping fee).
ReplyDeleteLesson to learn here? Don't be a slave to production you can't control. Learn to load your own ammunition and lessen the affects that the government can have on you. Currently I have well over 6,000 rounds of ammunition in over a dozen different calibers and enough supplies to load at least another 6,000 more. And before somebody says "why would anybody need that much ammo?" BECAUSE I CAN!!!
First, I wouldn't even consider Dick's, as they have an anti-gun stance to appease Washington. Walmart is selling to a friend network. Offer the guy cash, to text you when a certain caliber comes in, is common. Same at Gander, except it is more of the employees getting 1st dibs. Most have changed their pricing to get a couple extra dollars, over normal pricing. And it's not "supply and demand", as there is currently a glut of ammo floating in the market, at NORMAL pricing. You may have to be fast, but it's there. Google gun forums, there's typically always an ammo lookout thread. Create accounts, and place a CC on file, making checkout quicker, ensuring you get in on the sale. Cabelas has .22lr come up a few times a week for $.04 cpr, but it goes in less than an hour, making an account invaluable, as your info is saved. There are also 2-3 ammo watch webpages that will alert you on availability, sorted by cpr, and directs you right to the purchase page. Google, google, google.
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