Well if old Omalley gave them enough money to run the mowers to cut the grass near the highways maybe they would have something to do. Another point of view would be maybe they are borrowing this from someone so they can have a cookout and a place to sit down during their furlough days in september. Just a thought, don't judge something you know nothing about!
i think the point here is that they are using a truck that is WAY too big and more than likely not the most fuel efficient fleet vehicle. Jeff G is right. the only way to curb this kind of stuff is to use GPS tracking. we have one of, if not THE premier GPS Asset Tracking company right here in Salisbury. (www.Navtrak.net) for about the cost of a gallon of diesel, you could track the where abouts of any vehicle at 5 minute intervals. it just make sense. the old adage is, "What's yellow and sleeps six?......A MD State Hwy truck." Problem is, folks like Bubba C don't want it. In fact the only ones that don't want it are the very ones that need it most.
If this is really about money then why would you want to spend money putting GPS trackers in SHA vehicles that routinely drive all over the state. As someone said earlier how can you comment when you don't even know anything about it.....it really wouldn't suprise me one bit if this is a picture of SHA moving Omalley's furniture around. He has several tax dollar paid homes and prolly just got a new grill and a table to go with it. And I hear he is too busy to pick it up himself while he is "working hard" in DC
1:17 It appears that in this case it is you who doesn't know what you're talking about. No offense, just a fact. GPS tracking more than provides an ample ROI. Even if this truck were removing obstacles from a highway, there are many, many instances in which state assets are used improperly. GPS tracking provides accountability for tax payers. It delivers vital information regarding asset usage. Case in point, engine idling, unauthorized usage, unnecessary overtime, speeding and the list goes on. Do a little investigating for yourself and we can hold an open intelligent debate regarding my knowledge of the situation verses yours.
SHA workers used to hang out on West Street in Pittsville. Their truck sat there in the road for an hour or more at a time with all workers inside. If I sat at my desk for an hour or more without working, I would be reprimanded, then fired. There is no accountability from highway workers.
This Pisses Me Off Just As Bad As These Guys Riding Down To Virginia Buying Cartons Of Cigarettes And Then Turning Right Around And Coming Back Into The State!!!!
Yes Im Exposing You Now Every Friday For The Last Week They Have Been Doing This!!!!
Pretty easy to sit back and point your finger at someone else...I guess state employees are the only people who do anything wrong. Take a good look in the mirror...
Emo Said, i think the point here is that they are using a truck that is WAY too big and more than likely not the most fuel efficient fleet vehicle.
That was not the point. The point was the truck with a table and a grill. That point was shot down because it belongs at SHA. It is also possible that an employee donated these things so the guys could cook a burger for lunch.
As far as the GPS, it is obvious that you do or did make a living with navtrak or something, however, someone has to monitor the computer and check up on all these vehicles. So you pay 25k a year for a position, and 10k a year for fees to navtrak, and initial equipment and setup fees...... maybe it would be cheaper to the taxpayer if maybe once in a while, a guy bought a pack of smokes.
wow. ok. hmmm. let me gather my thoughts after such a well produced response. hmmmm... ok. gathered my composure. thank you for including yourself in this dialog. seriously. obviously you have done "your" homework.
now, if you would please use complete/partially complete sentences so we can all understand your point of view fully.
YOU said "The point was the truck with a table and a grill." my response: "HUH?!?!?"
You also said, "That point was shot down because it belongs at SHA." My response: "what 'exactly' belongs 'at' SHA."
You furthered your response by stating: "It is also possible that an employee donated these things so the guys could cook a burger for lunch."
My response: I guess that makes it okay to use state assets to transport said 'donated' items. Is this your argument?
You further expressed your ignorance by stating: "As far as the GPS, it is obvious that you do or did make a living with navtrak or something, however, someone has to monitor the computer and check up on all these vehicles. So you pay 25k a year for a position, and 10k a year for fees to navtrak, and initial equipment and setup fees......"
My response: Yes. In fact I was instrumental in initiating Navtrak's offering and I am well versed in what AVL and other GPS related technologies offer both governmental as well as private industrial entities. However, your insight falls short if you think that this technology, once implemented, requires further investment into personnel for monitoring purposes. A simple analogy to offer you would be, "Does one need an assistant when assigned a new cell phone, or perhaps a key to open the door to their office?" Wireless GPS technology is simply an additional "tool". Probably the best way to explain it to a layman like your self is: Imagine you have a 2-way radio operator (which most fleet management facilities like SHA do), or managers, or administrators, or TAXPAYERS. Dispatchers are forced to prompt the driver/vehicle staff, for a "20" prior to offering a new assignment or to request vital coresepondence (most times). The operator of the asset is then required to respond, mind you truthfully, to said inquiry. Imagine the dispatcher and the asset operator were privy to technology that would eliminate this process. Now we are at a point where efficiency has surfaced well beyond what has been available prior to GPS technology. I could expand at great length, but simply put, its a tool that is used by existing personnel. No need to add a, as you stated, $25k position.
Beyond that, are you assuming that it costs $10k annually per vehicle? If so, you are completely WRONG. How does less than $1k per vehicle annually fit into your budget? Lets 'imagine', since that is basically what you have based your opinion on thus far, that we could possibly save $5 per day. We can do that by reducing overtime, using optimal routes, eliminating unauthorized asset usage, eliminating unnecessary idling, recovering vehicle theft, reducing insurance premiums by monitoring velocity, and much more. Do I need to calculate this equation for you?
If you need more information regarding how such technology provides a return on such an investment. there's a little friend you can call. It's www.GOOGLE.com.
I hope my response was informative and not too awfully abrasive. You did however direct your opinion first. This is simply mine.
Emo, What I said was, the point of the post, was not as you suggest, to point out a large vehicle wasting gas when a small vehicle could be used. The point of the post was to suggest that there was wrongdoing by the truck having these things in the back. Secondly, I am not so stupid to think it would be 10k per year per vehicle. My figures were overall guesses per year for everything. Thank you for helping me make my point by suggesting 1k per year per vehicle. SHA, between Wicomico, Worcester, and Somerset would have somewhere between 150 and 200 vehicles. How often would you have to "catch" some guy that may be running a personal errand to make up for 150k or more a year for monitoring. I can tell you, the place I work for put Narktrak (spelled wrong on purpose) on our vehicles, spent the money, and has yet to "catch" anyone doing something wrong. Are you drunk? you are the one up at 2:30 AM. Someone stated it looked like the grill and table outside their breakroom, it is possible they could have needed them someplace else. You dont know. Maybe someone was having a retirement party or something. My point is, it doesn't have to automatically be wrong doing.When people start calling and making unfounded accusations, because they just don't know, then places end up wasting money on GPS to catch activity that really may not be happening. Such as the case where I work. You said "Imagine you have a 2-way radio operator (which most fleet management facilities like SHA do), or managers, or administrators, or TAXPAYERS. Dispatchers are forced to prompt the driver/vehicle staff, for a "20" prior to offering a new assignment or to request vital coresepondence" .........Yes, lets imagine because that aint the way it works. This radio operator is also performing many other functions at a place like SHA, that is why you would have to have someone dedicated to watching the screen with the little truck symbols, another cost, or someone who has time to go back through the history. So now lets see, save 5 bucks a day by unessecary idling, times the number of working days a year, .......... nope still aint worth it. In my opinion of course. (respectfully)
One simple solution... GPS tracking
ReplyDeleteHow do you know that is not state property?
ReplyDeleteIt looks like the table and grill that is outside of the break room at the shop. It is used by employees on breaks.
ReplyDeleteWell if old Omalley gave them enough money to run the mowers to cut the grass near the highways maybe they would have something to do. Another point of view would be maybe they are borrowing this from someone so they can have a cookout and a place to sit down during their furlough days in september. Just a thought, don't judge something you know nothing about!
ReplyDeleteA 3/4 ton pickup could have moved it cheaper fuel wise.
ReplyDeletei think the point here is that they are using a truck that is WAY too big and more than likely not the most fuel efficient fleet vehicle. Jeff G is right. the only way to curb this kind of stuff is to use GPS tracking. we have one of, if not THE premier GPS Asset Tracking company right here in Salisbury. (www.Navtrak.net) for about the cost of a gallon of diesel, you could track the where abouts of any vehicle at 5 minute intervals. it just make sense. the old adage is, "What's yellow and sleeps six?......A MD State Hwy truck." Problem is, folks like Bubba C don't want it. In fact the only ones that don't want it are the very ones that need it most.
ReplyDeleteIf this is really about money then why would you want to spend money putting GPS trackers in SHA vehicles that routinely drive all over the state. As someone said earlier how can you comment when you don't even know anything about it.....it really wouldn't suprise me one bit if this is a picture of SHA moving Omalley's furniture around. He has several tax dollar paid homes and prolly just got a new grill and a table to go with it. And I hear he is too busy to pick it up himself while he is "working hard" in DC
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ReplyDeleteIt appears that in this case it is you who doesn't know what you're talking about. No offense, just a fact. GPS tracking more than provides an ample ROI. Even if this truck were removing obstacles from a highway, there are many, many instances in which state assets are used improperly. GPS tracking provides accountability for tax payers. It delivers vital information regarding asset usage.
Case in point, engine idling, unauthorized usage, unnecessary overtime, speeding and the list goes on. Do a little investigating for yourself and we can hold an open intelligent debate regarding my knowledge of the situation verses yours.
EMO sold GPS tracking systems for a living. You are barking up the wrong tree debating this.
ReplyDeleteSHA workers used to hang out on West Street in Pittsville. Their truck sat there in the road for an hour or more at a time with all workers inside. If I sat at my desk for an hour or more without working, I would be reprimanded, then fired. There is no accountability from highway workers.
ReplyDeleteIf you noticed, the grill, table or chairs were not tied/secured. I was wondering how they just sat there without blowing out.
ReplyDeleteHey
ReplyDeleteIs that Bubba moving his things to Barrie's lol!!!!!!!!!!
The State Don't Need A Damn Grill!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis Pisses Me Off Just As Bad As These Guys Riding Down To Virginia Buying Cartons Of Cigarettes And Then Turning Right Around And Coming Back Into The State!!!!
Yes Im Exposing You Now Every Friday For The Last Week They Have Been Doing This!!!!
I See U!!!
This was taken between Princess Anne and Pocomoke hidding North at 2:21 p.m. on 8/03/09.
ReplyDeletePretty easy to sit back and point your finger at someone else...I guess state employees are the only people who do anything wrong. Take a good look in the mirror...
ReplyDeleteEmo Said,
ReplyDeletei think the point here is that they are using a truck that is WAY too big and more than likely not the most fuel efficient fleet vehicle.
That was not the point. The point was the truck with a table and a grill. That point was shot down because it belongs at SHA. It is also possible that an employee donated these things so the guys could cook a burger for lunch.
As far as the GPS, it is obvious that you do or did make a living with navtrak or something, however, someone has to monitor the computer and check up on all these vehicles. So you pay 25k a year for a position, and 10k a year for fees to navtrak, and initial equipment and setup fees...... maybe it would be cheaper to the taxpayer if maybe once in a while, a guy bought a pack of smokes.
11:40
ReplyDeleteare you/were you drunk?
wow. ok. hmmm. let me gather my thoughts after such a well produced response. hmmmm...
ReplyDeleteok. gathered my composure. thank you for including yourself in this dialog. seriously. obviously you have done "your" homework.
now, if you would please use complete/partially complete sentences so we can all understand your point of view fully.
YOU said "The point was the truck with a table and a grill."
my response: "HUH?!?!?"
You also said, "That point was shot down because it belongs at SHA."
My response: "what 'exactly' belongs 'at' SHA."
You furthered your response by stating: "It is also possible that an employee donated these things so the guys could cook a burger for lunch."
My response: I guess that makes it okay to use state assets to transport said 'donated' items. Is this your argument?
You further expressed your ignorance by stating: "As far as the GPS, it is obvious that you do or did make a living with navtrak or something, however, someone has to monitor the computer and check up on all these vehicles. So you pay 25k a year for a position, and 10k a year for fees to navtrak, and initial equipment and setup fees......"
My response: Yes. In fact I was instrumental in initiating Navtrak's offering and I am well versed in what AVL and other GPS related technologies offer both governmental as well as private industrial entities. However, your insight falls short if you think that this technology, once implemented, requires further investment into personnel for monitoring purposes. A simple analogy to offer you would be, "Does one need an assistant when assigned a new cell phone, or perhaps a key to open the door to their office?" Wireless GPS technology is simply an additional "tool". Probably the best way to explain it to a layman like your self is: Imagine you have a 2-way radio operator (which most fleet management facilities like SHA do), or managers, or administrators, or TAXPAYERS. Dispatchers are forced to prompt the driver/vehicle staff, for a "20" prior to offering a new assignment or to request vital coresepondence (most times). The operator of the asset is then required to respond, mind you truthfully, to said inquiry. Imagine the dispatcher and the asset operator were privy to technology that would eliminate this process. Now we are at a point where efficiency has surfaced well beyond what has been available prior to GPS technology. I could expand at great length, but simply put, its a tool that is used by existing personnel. No need to add a, as you stated, $25k position.
Beyond that, are you assuming that it costs $10k annually per vehicle? If so, you are completely WRONG. How does less than $1k per vehicle annually fit into your budget? Lets 'imagine', since that is basically what you have based your opinion on thus far, that we could possibly save $5 per day. We can do that by reducing overtime, using optimal routes, eliminating unauthorized asset usage, eliminating unnecessary idling, recovering vehicle theft, reducing insurance premiums by monitoring velocity, and much more. Do I need to calculate this equation for you?
If you need more information regarding how such technology provides a return on such an investment. there's a little friend you can call. It's www.GOOGLE.com.
I hope my response was informative and not too awfully abrasive. You did however direct your opinion first. This is simply mine.
Emo, What I said was, the point of the post, was not as you suggest, to point out a large vehicle wasting gas when a small vehicle could be used. The point of the post was to suggest that there was wrongdoing by the truck having these things in the back. Secondly, I am not so stupid to think it would be 10k per year per vehicle. My figures were overall guesses per year for everything. Thank you for helping me make my point by suggesting 1k per year per vehicle. SHA, between Wicomico, Worcester, and Somerset would have somewhere between 150 and 200 vehicles. How often would you have to "catch" some guy that may be running a personal errand to make up for 150k or more a year for monitoring. I can tell you, the place I work for put Narktrak (spelled wrong on purpose) on our vehicles, spent the money, and has yet to "catch" anyone doing something wrong. Are you drunk? you are the one up at 2:30 AM. Someone stated it looked like the grill and table outside their breakroom, it is possible they could have needed them someplace else. You dont know. Maybe someone was having a retirement party or something. My point is, it doesn't have to automatically be wrong doing.When people start calling and making unfounded accusations, because they just don't know, then places end up wasting money on GPS to catch activity that really may not be happening. Such as the case where I work. You said "Imagine you have a 2-way radio operator (which most fleet management facilities like SHA do), or managers, or administrators, or TAXPAYERS. Dispatchers are forced to prompt the driver/vehicle staff, for a "20" prior to offering a new assignment or to request vital coresepondence" .........Yes, lets imagine because that aint the way it works. This radio operator is also performing many other functions at a place like SHA, that is why you would have to have someone dedicated to watching the screen with the little truck symbols, another cost, or someone who has time to go back through the history. So now lets see, save 5 bucks a day by unessecary idling, times the number of working days a year, .......... nope still aint worth it. In my opinion of course. (respectfully)
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