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Sunday, December 22, 2019

German bishops declare homosexuality is 'normal' as the country's church begins controversial review of its teachings on sexual morality

German bishops have said homosexuality is 'normal' as the country's Catholic Church begins a controversial review of its teachings on sexual morality.

They agreed being gay is a 'normal form' of human sexual identity, the chairman of the Marriage and Family Commission announced after discussions in Berlin last week.

It comes ahead of a two-year 'Synodal Process' by the Germans which will see a national reform consultation despite warnings from the Vatican.

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16 comments:

  1. It is NOT NORMAL!!! Normal is defined as: conforming to a standard; usual, typical or expected.
    Homosexuality does not fit any of these definitions.
    I'm not saying that people shouldn't do it but, PLEASE STOP CALLING IT NORMAL! If it was NORMAL, none of would be here. Homosexuals cannot procreate.

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  2. Eventually you will come to understand why Allah sent Muhammed and the Quran. Jesus told you another would follow him, named Ahmed, the comforter. Don't think that because you're comfortable with your life and accept Jesus that the Book of Revelations doesn't apply. The Luciferians and the homosexuals will not stop tearing apart society and its institutions until they are physically forced too.

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  3. Psalm 37:17-20 KJV
    For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous. [18] The Lord knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever. [19] They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied. [20] But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat i of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

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  4. Agree with 12/16 @ 10:34 PM...NOT NORMAL no matter who says it is so. This goes against God's basic plan for humanity; procreation.

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  5. @ December 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM & December 17, 2019 at 7:58 AM

    Homosexuals are found, and have been found in all populations of humans. Homosexual behavior has also been observed in other species other than humans. It is a NORMALLY occurring sexual behavior.

    Think on it like this... there is only a small percentage of the human population that is "red head", there fore they are not Normal or "standard" as you try and define it as. This is nonsensical. Their traits are "normally occurring" in the species. This makes them normal.

    We cannot choose who we are attracted to.. think about it. When did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? You didn't because you just are. It's akin to liking broccoli or not liking broccoli. You either do or don't have a preference towards it.

    Human sexuality is so much more complex than simple procreation. If your argument is that couples should only be together for procreation.... then you MUST argue that those people that are sterile or cannot procreate are not eligible to have partners or be in love, and that they are NOT normal. Of course... this doesn't hold... so your argument is moot.

    If, as it were posited, that "Gods basic plan for humanity" is procreation, then no one would be born sterile or unable to procreate. As this is demonstrably not the case... it is can be demonstrably concluded that this would not be part of said deities plan for humanity... and sterile humans directly falsifies this claim.

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    1. 9:02 That was a whole lot of bs you just spewed. Say what you want. It’s not normal. But hey have at it. We will all be judged by God one day🤷‍♀️
      And all those people who are sterile and can’t have children maybe God intended them to take care of all the children that are orphans. Read the Bible. Maybe that will help you understand how morally wrong it is.

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  6. "German bishops have said homosexuality is 'normal'"

    Apparently it is in the German catholic church.

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  7. It' all prophecy in the making.

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  8. @ December 17, 2019 at 10:29 AM

    Claims made without evidence, may dismissed as having no evidence.

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  9. Northwest Woodsman: I believe that it has been normal within the priesthood of the Catholic Church for as long as it has existed. Also a great place for them to groom young children for their sexual perversions.

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  10. @ December 17, 2019 at 10:36 AM

    Ironically, I have read the bible. More than once. I still don't believe it to be the word of anyone other than the men who wrote it, and I don't believe in your deity. The bible is a horrid source of morality... I refer you to what it says about slavery as and example, and it's strange silence on rape not being evil, especially if the woman is a virgin and her rapist can then buy her for 50 sheckles. Pretty terrible source to get your morality from. The deity in that book commands genocide and infanticide... so no, please don't lecture me on "morals" nor finding any from that source.

    I do not find reason to believe your God exists...so to threaten me with its judgement is really strange tactic.

    You purposely distort the point. The assertion made was "This goes against God's basic plan for humanity; procreation.", and the refutation was: " then no one would be born sterile or unable to procreate. As this is demonstrably not the case... it is can be demonstrably concluded that this would not be part of said deities plan for humanity... and sterile humans directly falsifies this claim." To suggest adoption as a justification for sterile people in a world designed for humans to procreate seems wildly strange; as Gays, can also take care of orphans... can they not? You point seems merely slight of hand justification.

    Your assertion is that gays are not normal. Now I presented solid arguments as to why this was inaccurate. You simply just restated "it's not normal" without supporting it. I am open to changing my mind... but only presented with good reason to with solid ideas and facts. Please to defend this "not normal" you argue for.

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  11. Anonymous said...
    @ December 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM & December 17, 2019 at 7:58 AM

    Homosexuals are found, and have been found in all populations of humans. Homosexual behavior has also been observed in other species other than humans. It is a NORMALLY occurring sexual behavior.

    Think on it like this... there is only a small percentage of the human population that is "red head", there fore they are not Normal or "standard" as you try and define it as. This is nonsensical. Their traits are "normally occurring" in the species. This makes them normal.

    We cannot choose who we are attracted to.. think about it. When did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? You didn't because you just are. It's akin to liking broccoli or not liking broccoli. You either do or don't have a preference towards it.

    Human sexuality is so much more complex than simple procreation. If your argument is that couples should only be together for procreation.... then you MUST argue that those people that are sterile or cannot procreate are not eligible to have partners or be in love, and that they are NOT normal. Of course... this doesn't hold... so your argument is moot.

    If, as it were posited, that "Gods basic plan for humanity" is procreation, then no one would be born sterile or unable to procreate. As this is demonstrably not the case... it is can be demonstrably concluded that this would not be part of said deities plan for humanity... and sterile humans directly falsifies this claim.

    December 17, 2019 at 9:02 AM

    Look HOMO, there is nothing you can say or do that will normalize your sick and inhumane behavior. You can gobble the goop all you want but keep it in your own damn bedroom. We don't want to know about it and we don't want you to force that sick immoral behavior down our throats(no pun intended).

    "It is a NORMALLY occurring sexual behavior."
    Just because it NORMALLY occurs doesn't mean it is normal. Just because African Americans in Baltimore City NORMALLY murder each other doesn't mean it is NORMAL you dumb moronic HOMO!!

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  12. Anonymous Anonymous said...
    @ December 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM & December 17, 2019 at 7:58 AM

    Homosexuals are found, and have been found in all populations of humans. Homosexual behavior has also been observed in other species other than humans. It is a NORMALLY occurring sexual behavior.

    Think on it like this... there is only a small percentage of the human population that is "red head", there fore they are not Normal or "standard" as you try and define it as. This is nonsensical. Their traits are "normally occurring" in the species. This makes them normal.

    We cannot choose who we are attracted to.. think about it. When did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? You didn't because you just are. It's akin to liking broccoli or not liking broccoli. You either do or don't have a preference towards it.

    Human sexuality is so much more complex than simple procreation. If your argument is that couples should only be together for procreation.... then you MUST argue that those people that are sterile or cannot procreate are not eligible to have partners or be in love, and that they are NOT normal. Of course... this doesn't hold... so your argument is moot.

    If, as it were posited, that "Gods basic plan for humanity" is procreation, then no one would be born sterile or unable to procreate. As this is demonstrably not the case... it is can be demonstrably concluded that this would not be part of said deities plan for humanity... and sterile humans directly falsifies this claim.

    December 17, 2019 at 9:02 AM

    "If, as it were posited, that "Gods basic plan for humanity" is procreation, then no one would be born sterile or unable to procreate. As this is demonstrably not the case... it is can be demonstrably concluded that this would not be part of said deities plan for humanity... and sterile humans directly falsifies this claim."

    This is the dumbest excuse that anyone can make to try and normal an immoral behavior of an mentally ill person. Just because someone is "sterile" doesn't mean it's Ok to put a man's sex organ into another mans mouth and swallow his semen. You are one SICK BASTARD!

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  13. Anonymous said...
    Northwest Woodsman: I believe that it has been normal within the priesthood of the Catholic Church for as long as it has existed. Also a great place for them to groom young children for their sexual perversions.

    December 17, 2019 at 11:39 AM

    I appreciate most of your comments, but this is the most discriminatory and idiotic comment I have seen you make. Just because some Catholic Priests have abused their authority doesn't mean they all do. There are way more school teachers violating children than and Priest has ever done. It is happening daily in our schools across this country and no one bats an eye. Many say something stupid like "where were those teachers when I was in school?" Jewish Rabbis are being exposed every day but they media wants to attack the Catholic Church because it is the biggest and most powerful religion in the world.

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  14. @ December 18, 2019 at 12:29 AM

    Your very graphic description of a sexual act is also practiced by heterosexuals... you do know this I would imagine?

    You assert that homosexuality is "not normal", is "immoral", AND "the behavior of a mentally ill person"... yet you provide no substantiation of said claims. You simply claiming it does not make it so and you will need to defend that position.

    No, appealing to a religious doctrine is NOT a justification.

    You also misunderstood the point being made about couples who are sterile, and made malformed conclusions. As I have addressed it twice, I'll simply refer you to go revisit the point being made.

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  15. @ December 18, 2019 at 12:24 AM

    You do realize the acts you describe are also practiced by heterosexuals as well, right?

    You have asserted that homosexuals (and I would assume the heterosexuals engaging in the same behaviors) are not normal, sick, and inhumane.

    Just asserting it does not make it so. You would need to justify your case. I justified mine... now, you not liking the justification is not a refutation of it.

    Your analogy with MURDER does not correlate. MURDER is not something done between consenting adults that causes no harm. Murder, by definition causes harm and is not consensual.

    I suggest, you try again, and try to be more civil. You don't know me... you don't know if I'm gay or not. The way you throw around the insult "homo" is akin to calling blacks the "n" word, and you are using it in the same insulting, demeaning, and degrading way... so don't lecture me about moral high grounds. I have tried to maintain civility in this discourse... I would hope others would have similar integrity and do the same.

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