Texas Cops near Border Rallying Around ‘In God We Trust’
EDINBURG, Texas — The motto of “In God We Trust” continues to spread among Texas law enforcement agencies in this border area. Two of the most active agencies in the area have now placed the decals on their patrol vehicles in what they are calling a rallying point for all law enforcement.
The first police agency to use the logo in this area was the San Juan Police Department, which placed the motto in dark blue letters on their patrol cars late last year.
Now the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office is placing the motto on the patrol cars of any deputy who wants it.
“I saw it as more of a sign of solidarity with all law enforcement,” Sheriff Eddie Guerra said in an exclusive interview with Breitbart Texas. “It was to help more toward unifying all our brothers in blue, a message that says we all stand united.”
I'd like to see how you justify this. Can you explain to me why the saying on the back of the vehicle, used to unify the force, HAS to be a religious one. Of all the quotes that could be use to be a unifier, why does it HAVE to be THIS one?
And, how does this religious quote have anything to do with unifying the entire force? How does this unify someone who is on the force who isn't Christian?
Seems like a pretty polarizing thing to do, actually. But I'd like to hear how you square the circle.
Our government shouldn't be taking sides, and that is exactly why we have the establishment clause.
I justify it because I see it every day. Look at your money. Further, quit trying to be offended at everything you see. Bet your life that most police WANT that on their vehicle. AND, like most offended people, you have interpreted the "establishment clause" as saying ANY religious connotation, emblem, notion, sign, word, etc. is in violation of that clause, which is absolutely untrue. That has been confirmed in numerous court cases. Typically, offended people are unable to let other people alone. If YOU don't like it, then EVERYONE else must get in line with you in your life-threatening disgust. There ARE a lot of things in this world that desperately need some attention, but THIS isn't one of them. I don't know how you keep your sanity, surrounded as you are, with Christian symbols, words, history, money, buildings, documents, and now CARS, all with GOD's name on them. If I was cop, I'd LOVE to have that on my car....."if God is with me, who can be against me?".
Wow that's an awesome sentiment. God would make time to watch over you as a cop while babies die of cancer, pedophiles walk among us and a blatant disregard for human life runs rampant all over the world. Think I'm going to have to pass on your "God". Thanks all the same.
The crux of your response is to build a straw man argument that people who wish to uphold the law and the Constitution are "offended". This distraction you have fabricated is decidedly untrue. This has nothing to do with offense, and everything to do with what is legal.
The government should not be choosing sides. If you look back I asked you how that religious declaration was unifying in any way... in fact I pointed out how it was decidedly polarizing. You did not address this.
You also have never justified why these declarations HAVE to be of a religious nature. Surely, there are better ways to "unify" all Americans than using a polarizing religious declaration favoring a specific religion. Tell me, why do you think it HAS to be a religious declaration, and why is this religious declaration a better choice that one that truly unifies?
You deftly skirted answering these points, which is disappointing. It leaves me wondering why you did?
You see Imclain, I support and would defend your right to put giant signs up on your property, stickers on your car, wear t-shirts, or tattoo on your forehead what ever religious declaration you wanted, and I would rail against anyone who told you that you couldn't do it. Why? Because it's your right to be able to do it. As would be any Americans right.
Where I draw the line, and where the our majority deist founders drew the line was getting government into the religion business, or visa versa. During the founding documents time there was much discrimination and criminalization of differing religious viewpoints around the nations forming states, so they brilliantly wrote our Constitution as a secular document, to protect Americans and all religious liberty.
So, to try again, would you please address the questions posited to you once again? How is this statement unifying and preferred to a non religious one? Why does the declaration HAVE to be a religious one?
Good for them.
ReplyDeleteHow bout that establishment clause?
ReplyDelete@ Imclain
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see how you justify this. Can you explain to me why the saying on the back of the vehicle, used to unify the force, HAS to be a religious one. Of all the quotes that could be use to be a unifier, why does it HAVE to be THIS one?
And, how does this religious quote have anything to do with unifying the entire force? How does this unify someone who is on the force who isn't Christian?
Seems like a pretty polarizing thing to do, actually. But I'd like to hear how you square the circle.
Our government shouldn't be taking sides, and that is exactly why we have the establishment clause.
I justify it because I see it every day. Look at your money.
ReplyDeleteFurther, quit trying to be offended at everything you see.
Bet your life that most police WANT that on their vehicle.
AND, like most offended people, you have interpreted the "establishment clause" as saying ANY religious connotation, emblem, notion, sign, word, etc. is in violation of that clause, which is absolutely untrue. That has been confirmed in numerous court cases.
Typically, offended people are unable to let other people alone. If YOU don't like it, then EVERYONE else must get in line with you in your life-threatening disgust.
There ARE a lot of things in this world that desperately need some attention, but THIS isn't one of them. I don't know how you keep your sanity, surrounded as you are, with Christian symbols, words, history, money, buildings, documents, and now CARS, all with GOD's name on them.
If I was cop, I'd LOVE to have that on my car....."if God is with me, who can be against me?".
Wow that's an awesome sentiment. God would make time to watch over you as a cop while babies die of cancer, pedophiles walk among us and a blatant disregard for human life runs rampant all over the world.
DeleteThink I'm going to have to pass on your "God".
Thanks all the same.
Your closing statement is spot on 2:55, Gods not dead, hes surely alive!
ReplyDeleteDearborn, Mich. Police have "In Allah We Trust", on their cars.
ReplyDelete@Imclain
ReplyDeleteA few problems with your response.
The crux of your response is to build a straw man argument that people who wish to uphold the law and the Constitution are "offended". This distraction you have fabricated is decidedly untrue. This has nothing to do with offense, and everything to do with what is legal.
The government should not be choosing sides. If you look back I asked you how that religious declaration was unifying in any way... in fact I pointed out how it was decidedly polarizing. You did not address this.
You also have never justified why these declarations HAVE to be of a religious nature. Surely, there are better ways to "unify" all Americans than using a polarizing religious declaration favoring a specific religion. Tell me, why do you think it HAS to be a religious declaration, and why is this religious declaration a better choice that one that truly unifies?
You deftly skirted answering these points, which is disappointing. It leaves me wondering why you did?
You see Imclain, I support and would defend your right to put giant signs up on your property, stickers on your car, wear t-shirts, or tattoo on your forehead what ever religious declaration you wanted, and I would rail against anyone who told you that you couldn't do it. Why? Because it's your right to be able to do it. As would be any Americans right.
Where I draw the line, and where the our majority deist founders drew the line was getting government into the religion business, or visa versa. During the founding documents time there was much discrimination and criminalization of differing religious viewpoints around the nations forming states, so they brilliantly wrote our Constitution as a secular document, to protect Americans and all religious liberty.
So, to try again, would you please address the questions posited to you once again? How is this statement unifying and preferred to a non religious one? Why does the declaration HAVE to be a religious one?
Respectfully,
The Conservative Atheist