BALTIMORE COUNTY, Md. (WJZ) — Was it excessive force? An investigation is underway after cell phone video captured an officer punching a man outside a Towson bar. The incident happened Saturday morning.
Tracey Leong explains why police are concerned.
Police say the suspect became combative resisting arrest but the force used to restrain him is now being questioned.
Several blows to the head from an officer were caught on cell phone video as police tried to subdue 19-year-old Zachary Blumenstein outside the Greene Turtle in Towson.
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Excuse me. Any time you punch someone in the head you are trying to kill them. There is NO other reason. The probablility of permenant brain damage is 100% and it is measurable.
ReplyDeleteThat said save the state a bunch money. Clear him of charges. He will never get convicted. Its a waste of time to persue it.
Ladies an gentlemen the person who made this comment is a prime example of an idiot. When you punch someone in the head your trying to kill them? Really? So every time we watch a boxing or MMA match the opponents are trying to kill each other? NO other reason? Bull Sh**! 100% chance of brain damage? See.....people like this expose the stupidity that exists in abundance within the human race. People like this shouldn't even be able to express themselves on blogs. Ignorance of epic proportions taking up valuable bandwidth.
DeleteIn boxing and MMA they have gloves on with padding to absorb at least 40% of the blow. Punching with bare knuckles is definitely a good way to possibly kill somebody
DeleteWrong! the truth is that the mass of the fist is increased by the weight of the glove. The knuckles may be padded which tends to reduce the depth and frequency of cuts where bone is close to the skin. But the increase in mass causes the brain to be jarred more severely. Bodies in motion tend to stay in motion, bodies at rest tend to stay at rest until acted upon by an outside force - a punch. When a fist strikes the head, the weight of the head absorbs some of the force of the punch. the energy possessed by the fist is transferred to the skull which moves in the same direction as the fist. The greater the mass of the fist, the greater the energy transferred to the skull.The brain tends to remain still until the skull moves into it. When the inside of the skull impacts the brain, the brain can be injured. Whether or not the brain is damaged and to what extent depends on many things. Not the least of which is the force transferred to the skull by the fist. Remember.... F=MA. Force = mass x acceleration. The greater the mass, the greater the forced transferred to the skull and subsequently the brain. This is precisely why years ago people who frequented rough bars, etc., would carry a roll of dimes in their pockets. They would put the dimes in their hand and make a fist around it before punching someone in the face making their fist heavier. They knew the odds of a one punch knock out was greatly increased. So whether the weight (mass) comes from a roll of dimes or a boxing glove, the result is the same.
DeleteWhile I do believe that there is a high probability this would have all been avoided had he listened to the police's instructions, to ask someone to place their hand behind their back when the result of that action would be your face hitting the pavement, you can understand why he didn't. Alcohol most likely played a role in this young man's decision making. However as an officer I'm sure you're trained in ways to get an arm behind their back. Hopefully repeatedly punching someone in the face isn't one of those ways. Especially in a time and age where everything is on film and easily taken out of context. Me, I was raised to not be a jackass. Thus, I have never been punched in the face by a cop haha
ReplyDeleteThe guy he is hitting already has brain damage! Only an idiot would mouth off to a cop. he is lucky the cop didn't shoot him for his fat mouth comments. This video only shows A SMALL PART OF WHAT HAPPENED.
ReplyDeleteOnly an idiot with mouth off to a cop? All cops are idiots! You as a true American have every right to question and doubt any police officer! Until a cop can sit there and tell you exactly every rule and statute that is listed under the crime he is arresting you for he has no business even arresting you.
DeletePunch the idiot with the cell phone.
ReplyDeleteRacist cop .
ReplyDeletethey are both idiots. drunk kid and drunk on power kop! fool should know he was gonna be vidoed!
ReplyDeleteYou are all to funny! Police are allowed to punch you in the face stomach arms and anywhere if you fight them. It's a fight and that's what happens. Totally confused how some think police aren't allowed to do that.
ReplyDeleteThis video only shows A SMALL PART OF WHAT HAPPENED.
ReplyDeleteDecember 21, 2015 at 3:53 PM
well tell us then what else is there
Does it matter what it shows! If you fight a warrior it's going to be a fight. This drunk stepped into the wrong back yard and was swallowed by a lion. He is probably use to beating his girl friend and bullying people. Tip of that to the copper.
ReplyDeleteA warrior? That's right they're all soldiers now we're in Fallujah
Delete6:51 the drunk was mouthing off in the bar, and then really went nuts with the cops. Read the whole comment.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete6:51 the drunk was mouthing off in the bar, and then really went nuts with the cops. Read the whole comment.
December 21, 2015 at 7:42 PM
I don't see what, if anything, that happened in the bar has to do with what the kops did. I read the whole comment. It offers no more info that what I copied.
I often hear that we only see part of the story but that not everything is on the video. Maybe, maybe not. This video as well as the WHOLE video of the de. kop kicking the man in the face tells the whole story.
Maybe what they mean when they say we don't know the whole story is that they haven't finishing doctoring it up to make the kops look good.
1038 you fight law enforcement or anyone they fight back. It's simple. Copper did good
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ReplyDeleteYou ever watch boxing?
DUH
Good job Officer.
ReplyDeleteNeed more like you.
We could use a few good men like him in the BURY.
ReplyDeleteWe have a bunch of scared little girls here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete1038 you fight law enforcement or anyone they fight back. It's simple. Copper did good
December 22, 2015 at 12:17 AM
video doesn't show guy fighting cops. just says he was resisting arrest. no charges of assault so I'm guessing he didn't hit cops. you know if someone were to lay so much as a finger on a cop they would go after attempted murder charges.
just pulling away from a cop constitutes resisting arrest so that doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
elected officials spoke out against that much force being used, 7 punches to the head. I know some will say officials throwing cops under the bus so...
and this was the second time they interacted with this guy so their iddy biddy feelings were hurt he didn't listen to them the first time so they had to vent on him right?
if it took that many cops, pepper spray, punches to the head, on a supposedly DRUNK guy, just imagine if they had to fight someone sober. oh wait, maybe that's why they shoot so many.
1206 if you fight then you get punched. Simple. Not the movies.
ReplyDeleteif it took that many cops, pepper spray, punches to the head, on a supposedly DRUNK guy, just imagine if they had to fight someone sober. oh wait, maybe that's why they shoot so many.
ReplyDeleteDecember 22, 2015 at 12:06 PM
only in the back and only if they are unarmed
337 what are you mad about? The police fighting a guy or the police in general!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete337 what are you mad about? The police fighting a guy or the police in general!
December 22, 2015 at 6:08 PM
not really mad bro, but it is distressing that police kill thousands each year and nobody seems to give a damn. did you know they recently investigated Ga. and found that half of police shooting victims were unarmed and shot in the back? or do you even care?
He was just doing the typical mouthing off to an officer, resisting arrest and fighting with them. He got what he deserved. Criminal hits cop, nothing. Cop hits criminal, they go nuts. Just what is it some of you think the officer was supposed to do? Hit him with a foam rubber billy club and use harsh language on him?
ReplyDeleteCops kill thousands? Really? Where did you read that? Just how many blacks kill other blacks every year, sir or madam? Whatever you are. A hell of a lot more than cops kill. Funny how many of them are worthless criminals.
ReplyDeleteBlogger bayman said...
ReplyDeleteCops kill thousands? Really? Where did you read that? Just how many blacks kill other blacks every year, sir or madam? Whatever you are. A hell of a lot more than cops kill. Funny how many of them are worthless criminals.
December 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM
besides being emotional, you should do some research for yourself. thousands killed by police is a CONSERVATIVE figure. some depts don't report them at all to the FBI, which they have just started to correct.
you didn't see anyone hit any cop in that video, nor are all people killed by police criminals. you must live on a boat bayman since you are so uninformed. you are online now so it would be a good time to do a search and educate yourself, if for nothing else to lessen your continuing foolishness.
9:28 the statement about Georgia is a total fabrication. The police do not kill thousands a year lol what planet do you live on. The United States Of America is one of the most violent countries in the world. That is what comes with total freedom. Give someone like yourself too much rope they hang themselves or someone else.
ReplyDeleteThe police have the task of enforcing laws that YOU put into place. The people saw a need for laws because with freedom comes responsibility. Some people just do not have the intelligence to be free. Freedom is not free. People are angry at the Government so they naturally get angry at the police.
Over 10,000 young Black men will kill one another this year alone. Who do you think faces the 10,000 armed young men that will kill someone for the color of a rag or a street corner to sell dope from. The police are dealing with things that should never happen in a country this great. Liberals have assured that plagued neighborhoods will continue to be battle grounds. Anyone stupid enough to believe there is solution in bad mouthing the police should walk a mile in an officer's shoes. The only media shown is bad media on the police. You do not read about the police across this nation that gave thousands of Jackets and meals to the needy. Your local police donate thousands of dollars to local charities annually. They do not do press releases for praise you never read about it. They just do it. Like the Torch Run for Special Olympics. Yea those terrible cops helping disabled kids what is wrong with them. Toys for Tots and the Salvation Army etc etc.. Yep you got it right all the police are just killers. Educate yourself stop letting the Left media poison you.
Have a happy and safe new Years to all.
You can bet Blumenstein knows a great lawyer ... the person he pushed into traffic will have a good chance of being the one besides the Lawyers who score in this ordeal..
ReplyDeleteWay to deal with this loud mouth who wanted to be combative. If he has no sense maybe we can beat some into him. What was a 19 year old doing outside the Green Turtle, trying to get in or just being a punk loud mouth?
ReplyDeleteThere have been about 400 people shot dead by police so far this year. More than 80% were armed with a weapon, whether it was a gun, a knife, or something else. At least a quarter of them were mentally ill, according to their relatives.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't "thousands". Considering the huge number of contacts the public has with police every year, it's a very tiny fraction of a percentage. Not that any unjustified shooting is excusable, but the "problem" is blown way out of proportion to extort the taxpayers at every level.
Stand on a street corner in any major city at 1am, especially if you're white, and you have a far greater chance of being murdered by a black male, than by any race of cop.
The distorted facts from the left. They never talk about Black on Black or Black on White crime. They just sit and spew trash about police and White America. White Lives Matter
ReplyDeleteGotta love it. If cops rely on stuff like tasers and pepper spray they get accused of not 'fighting fair' and using excessive force but if they use old-school methods they get accused of being brutal, too.
ReplyDeleteWTF do you expect after when the person doesn't want to be arrested when asked nicely?
Listed below are lists of people killed by law enforcement in the United States, whether in the line of duty or not, and regardless of reason or method. Inclusion in the lists implies neither wrongdoing nor justification on the part of the person killed or the officer involved. The listing merely documents the occurrence of a death.
ReplyDeleteThese lists are incomplete. Although Congress instructed the Attorney General in 1994 to compile and publish annual statistics on police use of excessive force, this was never carried out, and the FBI does not collect these data either.[1] The annual average number of justifiable homicides alone was previously estimated to be near 400.[2] Updated estimates from the Bureau of Justice Statistics released in 2015 estimate the number to be around 930 per year, or 1240 if assuming that nonreporting local agencies kill people at the same rate as reporting agencies.[3] The Washington Post tracked shootings (only) in 2015 and on May 30 reported a rate so far that would be equal to 937 shootings/year (385 as of that date).[4] The Guardian newspaper is running a database,The Counted, tracking US killings by police and other law enforcement agencies in 2015, and counted 965 killed as of 6 November 2015, with rates per million of 2.24 for "white" people, 5.55 for "black", and 2.66 for "hispanic/latino". The database can be viewed by state, gender, race/ethnicity, age, classification (e.g., "gunshot"), and whether the person killed was armed.[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States
Keep in mind the year is only halfway over. Even the 605 killings that Mapping Police Violence tracked through July 10 alone would make the U.S. an outlier among comparable democracies.
This doesn't happen in other developed countries: Policing in the U.S. is controlled largely at the state and local levels, meaning that training, equipment and use-of-force standards vary wildly. But compared to many other countries, American police enjoy relatively lax guidelines on when and how they can use lethal force.
According to the Washington Post, in Britain, Iceland, Ireland, New Zealand and Norway, most police tend not to carry firearms at all while on duty. German police are extensively trained to understand that drawing and firing their weapons is a very serious matter of last resort.
On the other hand, an Amnesty International analysis found laws regulating when and why police are allowed to kill someone in each of the 50 U.S. states fall far short of international standards. In a statement on Amnesty's website, executive director Steven W. Hawkins said, "The fact that absolutely no U.S. state laws conform to this standard is deeply disturbing and raises serious human rights concerns. Reform is needed and it is needed immediately. Lives are at stake."
According to Vocativ, at current rates, U.S. police are on track to shoot dead more people per capita than the combined gun homicide rates of 19 out of 34 member countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group which encompasses most of the world's richest countries. http://mic.com/articles/122161/one-map-shows-all-the-people-police-have-killed-in-each-state-so-far-this-year#.hI5u0lmbo
(1186) December 26, 2015 http://killedbypolice.net/
Police Have Killed at Least 1,083 Americans Since Michael Brown's Death
By Liz Fields
August 9, 2015 | 5:15 pm https://news.vice.com/article/police-have-killed-at-least-1083-americans-since-michael-browns-death
Enough? and someone wants to compare this to giving out jackets and meals?!?
A significant percentage of those, over 80%, had a weapon when shot. If they hadn't been put down, chances are someone else would have been murdered by the criminal.
ReplyDelete147 people die in war. I'm sure this will hurt your ears but the streets are a war.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteA significant percentage of those, over 80%, had a weapon when shot. If they hadn't been put down, chances are someone else would have been murdered by the criminal.
December 28, 2015 at 8:58 AM
and at least 20% were UNARMED
1048 they were all armed.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete1048 they were all armed.
December 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM
yeah, they had legs too
1147 that's my point, again your caught lying.
DeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete147 people die in war. I'm sure this will hurt your ears but the streets are a war.
December 28, 2015 at 10:38 AM
yeah, a war on people by rouge kops.
1148 aww you need a hug I understand smile police love you.
ReplyDelete1:47 in your perfect world their would be zero police. Then you could commit crimes on the week and elderly without consquince.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete1147 that's my point, again your caught lying.
December 28, 2015 at 6:26 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1:47 in your perfect world their would be zero police. Then you could commit crimes on the week and elderly without consquince.
December 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM
start paying attention in english class
721 thank you for proving my point.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete721 thank you for proving my point.
December 28, 2015 at 8:02 PM
the one under your hat?