The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission."
Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, putting him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van."
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What about the 7 days in hospital and surgerys. Medical examiner office? Noway I don't believe anything comes out of their.
ReplyDeleteI think that officers should have a medical degree of sorts . Maybe the same as a doctor. Anyway , that's about what doctors make now a days with Obama care.
ReplyDeleteThis would insure that we don't hurt murderers and thugs.
Looking forward to the release of the police training manuals, the defense has requested: Handcuff + shackle = transport prone.
ReplyDeleteAnyway this is the most curious autopsy ever. 12 yrs of college and "lower left side of head and "belly" and all the "could" have's and "might" have's, and possible's?
If I had to bet, I would say it was released by Mosby's office. There were a few corrections made to the story all of which only benefit the state's argument. They wanted to put their spin on it, before they had to release it to the defense which is Friday.
Just like I stated right here, on this blog, for which I was bashed. The injury was of the type seen w/shallow water diving accidents.
ReplyDeleteA word of wisdom, be careful who you bash. In an anon forum you never know when you are being offered up an expert opinion.
By lower left side of head, she means jaw/chin area most likely. At impact this would cause the head to be thrust back causing the fractures. If impact were on the side jaw area the shoulder would have acted as a buffer so to speak minimizing the injury unless he were intentionally banging his head.
I also stated he was NOT injured before being loaded into van and again (as usual) I was correct. Nor was he injured when the mystery stop was revealed as spectator video shows him kneeling and turning his head.
So sad that this young entrepreneur had his life cut short. He probably could have made a small fortune dealing drugs.
ReplyDeleteAnon 7:30 a.m. Respect your opinion however maybe we wouldn't have a drug problem if more results like this occured. If innocent why try to elude the police. Maybe we wouldn't have prison breaks if those working in the prison system were held accountable by serving out their prison terms. Two murderers on the loose and if they kill again those assiting the prison break should get capital punishment.
ReplyDelete8:34-I am of the opinion that Gray caused his own death. After being put in the leg restraints, he was placed face down on the floor of the van, which is a safe position. He and he alone made the decision to not stay on the floor.
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't care what the policy is. Policy is not law. There is no law in MD which states prisoners are to be seat belted in at all times. Broken policy is handled in house and not by the judicial system. It is my understanding that the newly implemented seat belt policy did state that a seat belt or other approved method of securing prisoners was acceptable.
Murder??????I thought you needed to have "intent" for the charge of murder. It's not like they said to each other "hey man, lets put this guy in handcuffs and shackles and throw him in the back of this van and kill him" Really. You watch, most of the six will be cleared and others minor charges. Then the riots will happen everywhere. Why, because its a great reason to destroy things and rob businesses. Stand by people.......
ReplyDeleteAnd Ms. Mosby is back tracking in 3...2....1..., now the divide between her, the Mayor, and the police department is gaping. All because this young man decided to stand up in a moving vehicle while handcuffed. But I bet Mosby continues to persecute just because she looks like a fool.
ReplyDeletegive them room...
ReplyDeleteriot! loot! riot! loot!
that will fix everyyyyyything...
No 9:36 no intent is required for the 2nd degree depraved heart charge. You aren't actually intending to kill someone, but your actions were so reckless that they did. Examples used are dropping a heavy flower pot off a balcony onto a crowded sidewalk and killing someone or firing a gun off into a crowd and someone is killed.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing with depraved heart is that a "crowd" comes into play according to an appeals court decision-can't remember which off hand. Higher court ruled that say if you drop the flower pot off a porch you weren't doing it in order to hit a specific person. That would make it 1st degree where intent is required.
I don't see the murder charge sticking. She forgot to do her homework on that one-same as she did when claiming the knife was legal under MD law but completely forgot Baltimore City has it's own code and was how Gray was charged.
I heard Mosby's tried to get one of the lesser charged officers to testify for the State and they have refused. I have no reason to doubt my sources.
ReplyDeleteWow she let a city burn over this. What is going on in Baltimore
ReplyDeleteyou people are pathetic. kops could nail Christ on the cross and you would still stick up for them
ReplyDeleteHow do you prove that it was the officers that did the damage and not the paramedics or even the doctors or nurses at the hospital. There will be more riots I believe.
ReplyDelete8:46....no law requiring prisoners be "seat belted in at all times"???
ReplyDeleteReally??
I know of a person who was DRIVING DOWN THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY without their seat belt on, but put it on by the time she got to the end of her driveway. As soon as she pulled onto the road, a cop pulled her over for "driving without a seat belt". In her driveway!
But the POLICE can transport citizens in handcuffs and not put them on a seat belt??? If my kid is hurt in an accident and is found to have not been belted in, all hell breaks loose and charges are flying so fast, extra trees will have to die before all the paperwork is done.
They (the police) KNEW what they were doing by NOT restraining him. It's called (by the police themselves!!) a "hard ride". They speed up, break hard, do it several times, swerve and make hard turns. ALL done to injure the suspect and 'teach them a lesson' about messing with the police.
The police just never expected him to die from it. NOW, they want to claim, they "didn't touch him" and are NOT responsible for his death??
Freddie Gray, a thug, a punk, a loser, a drug dealer, a menace to society, and a burden and leech upon society, died IN THEIR CUSTODY (!!) from their failure to restrain him in his seat belt.
If MY passengers aren't in THEIR seatbelt, I can't drive two miles in this State without a half-dozen cops pulling ME over and writing up some fines.
THEY can have as many people as they want unbelted and if THEY die, it's not their fault and no crime has been committed??
TWO sets of laws.
And equal justice for all?
Keep cheering.
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ReplyDeleteHow do you prove that it was the officers that did the damage and not the paramedics or even the doctors or nurses at the hospital. There will be more riots I believe.
June 25, 2015 at 11:59 PM
well for one thing he was unresponsive when he arrived at the hospital.
I read somewhere that that these vans used to transport prisoners are tagged and registered not the same as a regular car. They are registered as a bus or a shuttle or something along those lines so seatbelt laws do not apply and as a matter of fact under the transportation laws of the state if someone is not seatbeated in and killed or injured there can be no criminal or civil liability.
ReplyDeleteThis no liability law was written specifically for like school buses and other vehicles that haul people because the driver or anyone else can't be responsible at all times to make sure people put the belts on or keep them on.
After reading the autopsy notes that were released, it seems being on the floor on your stomach would be the safest place to be.
The distance from the floor to ceiling is only 4ft high. If you are sitting on the bench with a seatbelt on you would have to be hunched over. This would allow your head and upper body to be swinging from side to side not exactly a very safe position to be in.
12:44 The fatal moment came when Gray was being repositioned in the hospital a week later. No fault of the medical staff as I've seen brain herniation occur merely by sliding an X-ray under a patient.
ReplyDeleteIn the report it said while being repositioned there was an increase in blood pressure and slow heart rate. Classic signs of brain herniation. What this means is the brain is so swollen it passes through the small hole at the bottom of the neck where the the brain meets the spine. It is fatal.
Incidentally contrary to what Gray family attorney had claimed autopsy notes state the spinal cord was intact and not "80 percent severed" nor any indication that the "voice box" was "crushed."
If this is a true representation of the autopsy report it is useless from a prosecutory standpoint as will be the Medical Examiner's testimony.
ReplyDeleteEvery time words like "probably", "most likely" appear or are said, it can and will be torn up on cross and only serves to open the door wider for reasonable doubt. No wonder Mosby tried to keep it hidden from the defense view until the deadline came.
The Medical Examiner did nothing more than throw out a few guesses as to how Gray sustained the fatal injury.