Day after Day after Day no fires, but Jim Ireton and Jake Day believe everything Richard "Fatso" Hopeless says and want to pay for over 60 paid firemen. The want to extend the Federal fire grant that paid for 12 additional firemen for 2 years which is going to expire soon. Hopeless(I refuse to call him chief because he wouldn't make a pimple on a real fire chiefs butt)claims they can limit any fire to one room only, but in reality they let an entire building burn down in their own back yard. They saw it burning and responded way before it was dispatched and they still let it burn down. Proves the paid firemen are almost worthless and the volunteer firemen in the County can handle the real fire calls. Get rid of the paid firemen and let the volunteers handle the fire calls. Make EMS a separate department and you will find EMS is actually self sufficient.
And Day after Day after Day the administrator of this blog allows us to explain that the fire department does more for the community than just puttin water on a fire. There is no job justification occurring. I will site the examples on this current run log.
1 Gas leak. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck carries the necessary equipment to handle most gas leaks.
1 Automatic Fire Alarm. An ambulance takes care of patients will do no good here. A fire engine goes for the simple reason that if the alarm IS actually a fire then they have the necessary equipment to mitigate the incident.
1 PI Accident. In this case an ambulance becomes very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patients. The engine with its manpower will take care of any leaks/spills, assist the ambulance crew in packaging the patients for transport as well as assisting the responding police agency in controlling the flow of traffic.
1 Non-Breathing patient. In this case an ambulance is very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patient. Salisbury EMS crews are two-man crews. An engine is dispatched with the ambulance for assisting the EMS unit with patient care and providing a driver so that both Paramedics can be in the back to treat the patient. If you have ever done CPR for an extended period of time, you tire quickly doing chest compressions hence the extra manpower.
1 Natural Cover fire. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck/brush truck carries the necessary equipment to handle Natural Cover fires.
1 Transformer fire. An ambulance takes care of patients, a fire engine responds to assess the situation and waits until power company arrives on location and assists them with whatever they need and finally:
1 Smoke Investigation. No need for an ambulance to respond to this unless the engine crew finds someone injured during their investigation.
You lose your credibility when you speak of someone but can't call them by their name instead of name calling. He is the Fire Chief like it or not and has the credentials that allowed him to be named Fire Chief. I do not recall the number but was told by a higher up that almost half of the "Grant" firefighters moved over to "fulltime" status in place of the firefighters that retired or resigned leaving those "Grant" positions open". The City had to know what was going to happen at the end of the grant. Had it only been 1 or 2 firefighters maybe the city could have swung it. Not sure of his claim that they can limit fire to room and content but I can tell you that the fire on Lake Street apparently had a good head start because the crew that was at the fire station notice a strong odor but could not tell where it was coming from until sometime later when someone stepped outside on the apron and saw the smoke coming from the building. By the time the first unit arrived there was far too much fire in the building to control and that is why the evacuation was ordered 5 minutes into the call. So your statement is way off base. With what is charged by the EMS division for ambulance calls and the amount of call they run each year they could almost be self sufficient. The fire department will always be needed but in a diminished capacity.
1 Gas leak. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck carries the necessary equipment to handle most gas leaks. -- Gas leaks are for gas companies. Let the volunteer fire crew be dispatched and stand by for the gas company. Let the EMS crews handle the EMS calls. Job Justification only.
1 Automatic Fire Alarm. An ambulance takes care of patients will do no good here. A fire engine goes for the simple reason that if the alarm IS actually a fire then they have the necessary equipment to mitigate the incident. --- All fire alarms are false alarms. Let the volunteer fire crews handle the false alarms and the EMS crews handle the ambulance calls. "Mitigate the incident" oooh I love those big words. Oh so sexy. Job Justification only.
1 PI Accident. In this case an ambulance becomes very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patients. The engine with its manpower will take care of any leaks/spills, assist the ambulance crew in packaging the patients for transport as well as assisting the responding police agency in controlling the flow of traffic. --- PI = Personal Injury = EMS which does not = fire engine. Rarely is a fire engine required on car accidents. If they were there for leaks/spills they would be called on all car accidents when an ambulance is not called. The wrecker crews charge to clean up whether they do it or the fire crews do it. I don't care to pay fire crews to do something when wrecker crews charge anyway. Job Justification only.
1 Non-Breathing patient. In this case an ambulance is very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patient. Salisbury EMS crews are two-man crews. An engine is dispatched with the ambulance for assisting the EMS unit with patient care and providing a driver so that both Paramedics can be in the back to treat the patient. If you have ever done CPR for an extended period of time, you tire quickly doing chest compressions hence the extra manpower. --- Fire crews put out fires. Send a second ambulance and an EMS Supervisor and money saved. Job Justification only.
1 Natural Cover fire. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck/brush truck carries the necessary equipment to handle Natural Cover fires. --- Big Deal. One brush truck only. Let the volunteers handle these calls along with the Department of Natural Resources and Forestry. Job Justification.
1 Transformer fire. An ambulance takes care of patients, a fire engine responds to assess the situation and waits until power company arrives on location and assists them with whatever they need and finally: -- Send the volunteers to stand by until the power company gets there. Job Justification only.
1 Smoke Investigation. No need for an ambulance to respond to this unless the engine crew finds someone injured during their investigation. --- Send the volunteers to handle smoke investigations. If they find more help is needed hit the pagers and more volunteers will come. Job Justification only.
You lose your credibility when you speak of someone but can't call them by their name instead of name calling. He is the Fire Chief like it or not and has the credentials that allowed him to be named Fire Chief. -- You obviously don't know him because he doesn't have the credentials. Let's say he applies for another fire chief job somewhere, maybe Ocean City. Will he get that one? Maybe not although on paper high might seem to be more qualified then their fire chief. The reality is that if he goes to a real paid fire department he wouldn't get hired as the janitor.
I do not recall the number but was told by a higher up that almost half of the "Grant" firefighters moved over to "fulltime" status in place of the firefighters that retired or resigned leaving those "Grant" positions open". The City had to know what was going to happen at the end of the grant. Had it only been 1 or 2 firefighters maybe the city could have swung it. --- Paid firemen aren't needed. The volunteers can handle any calls.
Not sure of his claim that they can limit fire to room and content but I can tell you that the fire on Lake Street apparently had a good head start because the crew that was at the fire station notice a strong odor but could not tell where it was coming from until sometime later when someone stepped outside on the apron and saw the smoke coming from the building. ---- That was stupid!! You should have not admitted that one on this blog. You have a paid fire crew that smells something burning and you didn't make an incident of it and have personnel investigate? Sounds like you guys made a big ERROR in judgment. Someone needs to be fired from the top down.
By the time the first unit arrived there was far too much fire in the building to control and that is why the evacuation was ordered 5 minutes into the call. So your statement is way off base. -- Again as Joe pointed out they can't even handle a fire in their own back yard. How did the fire get that far ahead of them and they were right their. Proves they aren't worth the money paid. Hope there ISO rating goes down.
With what is charged by the EMS division for ambulance calls and the amount of call they run each year they could almost be self sufficient. -- I think you made the point the original poster was trying to convey. Thanks for proving that they should be a separate entity.
The fire department will always be needed but in a diminished capacity. -- And you think we the tax payers should continue to pay for over 60 paid firemen who are not needed? All you did was prove that a paid fire department is not needed and all we need is the volunteers.
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ReplyDeleteDay after Day after Day no fires, but Jim Ireton and Jake Day believe everything Richard "Fatso" Hopeless says and want to pay for over 60 paid firemen. The want to extend the Federal fire grant that paid for 12 additional firemen for 2 years which is going to expire soon. Hopeless(I refuse to call him chief because he wouldn't make a pimple on a real fire chiefs butt)claims they can limit any fire to one room only, but in reality they let an entire building burn down in their own back yard. They saw it burning and responded way before it was dispatched and they still let it burn down. Proves the paid firemen are almost worthless and the volunteer firemen in the County can handle the real fire calls. Get rid of the paid firemen and let the volunteers handle the fire calls. Make EMS a separate department and you will find EMS is actually self sufficient.
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ReplyDeleteAnd Day after Day after Day the administrator of this blog allows us to explain that the fire department does more for the community than just puttin water on a fire. There is no job justification occurring. I will site the examples on this current run log.
1 Gas leak. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck carries the necessary equipment to handle most gas leaks.
1 Automatic Fire Alarm. An ambulance takes care of patients will do no good here. A fire engine goes for the simple reason that if the alarm IS actually a fire then they have the necessary equipment to mitigate the incident.
1 PI Accident. In this case an ambulance becomes very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patients. The engine with its manpower will take care of any leaks/spills, assist the ambulance crew in packaging the patients for transport as well as assisting the responding police agency in controlling the flow of traffic.
1 Non-Breathing patient. In this case an ambulance is very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patient. Salisbury EMS crews are two-man crews. An engine is dispatched with the ambulance for assisting the EMS unit with patient care and providing a driver so that both Paramedics can be in the back to treat the patient. If you have ever done CPR for an extended period of time, you tire quickly doing chest compressions hence the extra manpower.
1 Natural Cover fire. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck/brush truck carries the necessary equipment to handle Natural Cover fires.
1 Transformer fire. An ambulance takes care of patients, a fire engine responds to assess the situation and waits until power company arrives on location and assists them with whatever they need and finally:
1 Smoke Investigation. No need for an ambulance to respond to this unless the engine crew finds someone injured during their investigation.
You lose your credibility when you speak of someone but can't call them by their name instead of name calling. He is the Fire Chief like it or not and has the credentials that allowed him to be named Fire Chief. I do not recall the number but was told by a higher up that almost half of the "Grant" firefighters moved over to "fulltime" status in place of the firefighters that retired or resigned leaving those "Grant" positions open". The City had to know what was going to happen at the end of the grant. Had it only been 1 or 2 firefighters maybe the city could have swung it. Not sure of his claim that they can limit fire to room and content but I can tell you that the fire on Lake Street apparently had a good head start because the crew that was at the fire station notice a strong odor but could not tell where it was coming from until sometime later when someone stepped outside on the apron and saw the smoke coming from the building. By the time the first unit arrived there was far too much fire in the building to control and that is why the evacuation was ordered 5 minutes into the call. So your statement is way off base. With what is charged by the EMS division for ambulance calls and the amount of call they run each year they could almost be self sufficient. The fire department will always be needed but in a diminished capacity.
Anonymous 2:50PM
ReplyDelete1 Gas leak. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck carries the necessary equipment to handle most gas leaks.
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Gas leaks are for gas companies. Let the volunteer fire crew be dispatched and stand by for the gas company. Let the EMS crews handle the EMS calls. Job Justification only.
1 Automatic Fire Alarm. An ambulance takes care of patients will do no good here. A fire engine goes for the simple reason that if the alarm IS actually a fire then they have the necessary equipment to mitigate the incident.
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All fire alarms are false alarms. Let the volunteer fire crews handle the false alarms and the EMS crews handle the ambulance calls. "Mitigate the incident" oooh I love those big words. Oh so sexy. Job Justification only.
1 PI Accident. In this case an ambulance becomes very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patients. The engine with its manpower will take care of any leaks/spills, assist the ambulance crew in packaging the patients for transport as well as assisting the responding police agency in controlling the flow of traffic.
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PI = Personal Injury = EMS which does not = fire engine. Rarely is a fire engine required on car accidents. If they were there for leaks/spills they would be called on all car accidents when an ambulance is not called. The wrecker crews charge to clean up whether they do it or the fire crews do it. I don't care to pay fire crews to do something when wrecker crews charge anyway. Job Justification only.
1 Non-Breathing patient. In this case an ambulance is very useful because they carry the necessary equipment to take care of the patient. Salisbury EMS crews are two-man crews. An engine is dispatched with the ambulance for assisting the EMS unit with patient care and providing a driver so that both Paramedics can be in the back to treat the patient. If you have ever done CPR for an extended period of time, you tire quickly doing chest compressions hence the extra manpower.
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Fire crews put out fires. Send a second ambulance and an EMS Supervisor and money saved. Job Justification only.
1 Natural Cover fire. An ambulance takes care of patients a fire truck/brush truck carries the necessary equipment to handle Natural Cover fires.
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Big Deal. One brush truck only. Let the volunteers handle these calls along with the Department of Natural Resources and Forestry. Job Justification.
April 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM
easternshorentative said...
ReplyDelete1 Transformer fire. An ambulance takes care of patients, a fire engine responds to assess the situation and waits until power company arrives on location and assists them with whatever they need and finally:
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Send the volunteers to stand by until the power company gets there. Job Justification only.
1 Smoke Investigation. No need for an ambulance to respond to this unless the engine crew finds someone injured during their investigation.
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Send the volunteers to handle smoke investigations. If they find more help is needed hit the pagers and more volunteers will come. Job Justification only.
You lose your credibility when you speak of someone but can't call them by their name instead of name calling. He is the Fire Chief like it or not and has the credentials that allowed him to be named Fire Chief.
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You obviously don't know him because he doesn't have the credentials. Let's say he applies for another fire chief job somewhere, maybe Ocean City. Will he get that one? Maybe not although on paper high might seem to be more qualified then their fire chief. The reality is that if he goes to a real paid fire department he wouldn't get hired as the janitor.
I do not recall the number but was told by a higher up that almost half of the "Grant" firefighters moved over to "fulltime" status in place of the firefighters that retired or resigned leaving those "Grant" positions open". The City had to know what was going to happen at the end of the grant. Had it only been 1 or 2 firefighters maybe the city could have swung it.
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Paid firemen aren't needed. The volunteers can handle any calls.
Not sure of his claim that they can limit fire to room and content but I can tell you that the fire on Lake Street apparently had a good head start because the crew that was at the fire station notice a strong odor but could not tell where it was coming from until sometime later when someone stepped outside on the apron and saw the smoke coming from the building.
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That was stupid!! You should have not admitted that one on this blog. You have a paid fire crew that smells something burning and you didn't make an incident of it and have personnel investigate? Sounds like you guys made a big ERROR in judgment. Someone needs to be fired from the top down.
By the time the first unit arrived there was far too much fire in the building to control and that is why the evacuation was ordered 5 minutes into the call. So your statement is way off base.
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Again as Joe pointed out they can't even handle a fire in their own back yard. How did the fire get that far ahead of them and they were right their. Proves they aren't worth the money paid. Hope there ISO rating goes down.
With what is charged by the EMS division for ambulance calls and the amount of call they run each year they could almost be self sufficient.
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I think you made the point the original poster was trying to convey. Thanks for proving that they should be a separate entity.
The fire department will always be needed but in a diminished capacity.
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And you think we the tax payers should continue to pay for over 60 paid firemen who are not needed? All you did was prove that a paid fire department is not needed and all we need is the volunteers.
April 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM
Easternshoretroll you really did your attempt at job justification a disservice because you are totally clueless.
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