The vote on Gay Marriage has run into a roadblock in the Judiciary Committee. It seems there are some holdouts and democrats who have backed away. It could go down in defeat today...the outcome remains in question, when Friday it appeared certain.
Again I ask (while still expecting silence or, since we are back to anonymous comments, a great deal of derision and ridicule) why is it so wrong for gay people to get married?
It isn't the job of government to tell people who can be happy together. If the government spen halv as much energy trying to do what it's constitutionally required to do we wouldn't be in the financial position we're in. People, worry about keeping your own house clean. How can it be a problem for you what other adults do? Should the declaration of indepedence have been written ".....life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unless you personally disagree with it"?Whatever. It's not your business what other people do until it directly infringes upon your rights. Anything short of that infringes on theirs.
it is simple, gay people desire to perverse the biblical institution of marriage. yes, humans are flawed people, but JUST saying my partner and i are gay and we want to be "married" really doesnt make sense, it is biblically defined. their lifestyle is already in conflict biblically
if it is about Same Rights as married persons, then Civil Unions allow that.
I personally feel that Gay people want a term like marriage to be like the hetero people, to feel included.
The part I just don't get, unless you have less than 1/8 of a brain, you know that the old testament DEFINES marriage. and the old testament also says exactly what The Almighty did to the Homosexual people who lived next to the dead sea (why do you think it is dead now, it was not like that originally). So they want the term Marriage, do they not realize the consequences???
Homosexuals now have their SAME rights with Civil Unions, no need to push it further, other than to do what exactly? Exactly.
Well, said 6:48. Thank you. At the end of the day, I think your response is the reasoned, rational one everyone takes. It is not our place to impose our moral on anyone else. Plus, the "sanctity of marriage" argument is weak at best.
12:05 - I think that is spot on too. Coming from a left of center erspective, I would think that any true small-government tea-party member would argue the same point. This is not the government's job. Let it go.
11:17 - You have your beliefs, just like everyone else does. I have a problem with the "it's in the Bible argument" because it does not apply to everyone. Not everyone believes, not everyone is Christian, and the Bible does not (in their eyes) apply to them. Furthermore, the Bible was written by men who were fallible and (like all of us) subject to their own prejudices and ideas of how things "should be."
In my understanding of God, He loves everyone, regardless. Do you believe he would turn away a committed gay couple from the gates of Heaven?
8:02 - what does that mean? who are you talking to? Are you a new poster, or someone from above?
Libra- See, the problem is that you are pointing out thier inconsitencies and double-standards. Trust me, they ignore all of that.
7:59 - If that is true, your God is a bit of a jerk.
Though, that would explain a few things. When I was a kid, there was a memeber of the KKK who attended our church. Everyone knew and no one ever said anything, which really bothered me. But, if God is bigoted against the Gays(as 7:59 implies,) he probably does not like black people or Jews all that much either.
fine if you want to use Marriage then from the Bible, then look at the bible. If you do not believe in the Bible, then do not go an use term Marriage. simple
FC - I think I understand your argument. But, I understand the word "marraige" to be a legal term, not soley a religious one. To that end, I don't think your position holds up.
Belief in any religion, or lack therof, does not determine one's eligibility for marriage.
I am no big fan of organized religion, but that does not mean I do not have some belief in something greater than our understanding. Religion is ruined for me by the people running it, organizing it, and prostylitzing (sp?) it. That is when the double standards creep in, and things (in my view) go off the rails.
i understand your position against organized religion. we who are more religious through our own faults have really ruined things. i just fail to see the connect of the same liberal people who are so quick to throw religion out of a school (because of so called separation of church and state) or who are so quick to say, don't push your bible beliefs on me and yet are now saying "we want to be 'married'". it just hard to Get. you know what i mean?
I get you FC, I do. But, if marraige is a legal term and a legal definintion, then, regardless of the Bible, people can be married. The debate is about more than semantics. But I understand your point of view.
BTW - no one can keep prayer out of school. There just cannot be organized, school-lead prayer. Big difference. If God is as powerful as most think, no school wall or law of man will keep him from anywhere.
Ok,I know that I will get alot of flack from you all, but I am a mother of a gay son. Am I proud that his is gay, NO am I proud that he is my son YES! He was afraid to tell me, for me it was hard to hear. But what hurt must was that he thought I would no longer love him. Say what you want, but if you love your child you love them no matter what. Do I feel he sould get married, I don't care. If he is alive and breathering, then I am a happy mother.
Let the people vote out right.
ReplyDeleteI expect the Annapaholes and Baltimorons to vote for this while the "outhouse" votes the right way
ReplyDeleteAgain I ask (while still expecting silence or, since we are back to anonymous comments, a great deal of derision and ridicule) why is it so wrong for gay people to get married?
ReplyDeleteHow is this a problem for anyone?
Because it is immoral and goes against what the Bible says that a "marriage" is between a man and a woman. I have a real problem w/gay marriage.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't the job of government to tell people who can be happy together. If the government spen halv as much energy trying to do what it's constitutionally required to do we wouldn't be in the financial position we're in. People, worry about keeping your own house clean. How can it be a problem for you what other adults do? Should the declaration of indepedence have been written ".....life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unless you personally disagree with it"?Whatever. It's not your business what other people do until it directly infringes upon your rights. Anything short of that infringes on theirs.
ReplyDeleteit is simple, gay people desire to perverse the biblical institution of marriage. yes, humans are flawed people, but JUST saying my partner and i are gay and we want to be "married" really doesnt make sense, it is biblically defined. their lifestyle is already in conflict biblically
ReplyDeleteif it is about Same Rights as married persons, then Civil Unions allow that.
I personally feel that Gay people want a term like marriage to be like the hetero people, to feel included.
The part I just don't get, unless you have less than 1/8 of a brain, you know that the old testament DEFINES marriage. and the old testament also says exactly what The Almighty did to the Homosexual people who lived next to the dead sea (why do you think it is dead now, it was not like that originally). So they want the term Marriage, do they not realize the consequences???
Homosexuals now have their SAME rights with Civil Unions, no need to push it further, other than to do what exactly? Exactly.
Because then they get benefits they DONT deserve. Go to Canada if you want to be married or italy.
ReplyDeleteIt will be nice and warm in Hell and you will get many benefits there in the end.
Well, said 6:48. Thank you. At the end of the day, I think your response is the reasoned, rational one everyone takes. It is not our place to impose our moral on anyone else. Plus, the "sanctity of marriage" argument is weak at best.
ReplyDelete12:05 - I think that is spot on too. Coming from a left of center erspective, I would think that any true small-government tea-party member would argue the same point. This is not the government's job. Let it go.
11:17 - You have your beliefs, just like everyone else does. I have a problem with the "it's in the Bible argument" because it does not apply to everyone. Not everyone believes, not everyone is Christian, and the Bible does not (in their eyes) apply to them. Furthermore, the Bible was written by men who were fallible and (like all of us) subject to their own prejudices and ideas of how things "should be."
In my understanding of God, He loves everyone, regardless. Do you believe he would turn away a committed gay couple from the gates of Heaven?
yes i do. call me a wack job but yes i do.
ReplyDeleteOr, you could have the type of response 7:36 has.
ReplyDeleteSo, your God is cool with you being narrow-minded, bigoted, and hateful towards your fellow man?
7:31 - WWJD?
and 1 more thing, don't give me, i dont believe in the bible, but I want to USE the bible word. That is a garbage argument.
ReplyDelete8:02 - what does that mean? who are you talking to? Are you a new poster, or someone from above?
ReplyDeleteLibra- See, the problem is that you are pointing out thier inconsitencies and double-standards. Trust me, they ignore all of that.
7:59 - If that is true, your God is a bit of a jerk.
Though, that would explain a few things. When I was a kid, there was a memeber of the KKK who attended our church. Everyone knew and no one ever said anything, which really bothered me. But, if God is bigoted against the Gays(as 7:59 implies,) he probably does not like black people or Jews all that much either.
Now I get it.
go read romans 1:26-27. my whole argument is:
ReplyDeletefine if you want to use Marriage then from the Bible, then look at the bible. If you do not believe in the Bible, then do not go an use term Marriage. simple
no he does not hate jews or any other people, go read 2 peter 3:9.
ReplyDeletego read please
FC - I think I understand your argument. But, I understand the word "marraige" to be a legal term, not soley a religious one. To that end, I don't think your position holds up.
ReplyDeleteBelief in any religion, or lack therof, does not determine one's eligibility for marriage.
I am no big fan of organized religion, but that does not mean I do not have some belief in something greater than our understanding. Religion is ruined for me by the people running it, organizing it, and prostylitzing (sp?) it. That is when the double standards creep in, and things (in my view) go off the rails.
i understand your position against organized religion. we who are more religious through our own faults have really ruined things. i just fail to see the connect of the same liberal people who are so quick to throw religion out of a school (because of so called separation of church and state) or who are so quick to say, don't push your bible beliefs on me and yet are now saying "we want to be 'married'". it just hard to Get. you know what i mean?
ReplyDeleteI get you FC, I do. But, if marraige is a legal term and a legal definintion, then, regardless of the Bible, people can be married. The debate is about more than semantics. But I understand your point of view.
ReplyDeleteBTW - no one can keep prayer out of school. There just cannot be organized, school-lead prayer. Big difference. If God is as powerful as most think, no school wall or law of man will keep him from anywhere.
with all the budget problems i am glad to see this is a priority.
ReplyDeleteOk,I know that I will get alot of flack from you all, but I am a mother of a gay son. Am I proud that his is gay, NO am I proud that he is my son YES! He was afraid to tell me, for me it was hard to hear. But what hurt must was that he thought I would no longer love him. Say what you want, but if you love your child you love them no matter what. Do I feel he sould get married, I don't care. If he is alive and breathering, then I am a happy mother.
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