Totota Tundra Proves More Durable Than Domestic Trucks
31' Ocean Pro Parasail Boat weighing in at 13,000 lbs on a 1,500 lb tri-axle trailer - 14,500 lb total tow weight! Towed from South New Jersey to Ocean City, MD with a 4.7L V8 Toyota Tundra - NO PROBLEM! Now do that with a 3/4 ton domestic!
Gosh darm them "Tototas!" They be doing some crazy things! It's hard enough for domestics to hang with Toyota, but now they have to compete with "Totota" too?! What is the world coming to?!
LOL, I had to take a hit at your typo Joe! This Tundra has some real brawn! I hope it's owner went home and gave it a good wash and wax for it's hard work!
You do know that you have to have a Class A CDL to pull a trailer weighing over 10,000 lbs.....even if you are pulling it with a pickup truck. Odds are that the truck also isn't RATED to pull a trailer that heavy(illegal), and odds are also that you didn't go through scale houses. You are very lucky if you made that trip without racking up to SERIOUS fines.
Not typing this to scold but to make people aware, alot of people just don't know and could get into ALOT of trouble. Also, it is the weight rating, not the actual weight that matters. Even if you are pulling an empty trailer that weighs 1500 lbs, if it is rated with a max GVW of over 10,000 lbs, you need a Class A to tow it.
DOT should'a burned your a$$ for exceeding the towing capacity for even a 1 ton truck. Thats not near enough truck to control that load should an emergency occur. You put alot of lives at risk during your little gamble towing expedition...lets see that tag number!
Illegal or not, the point was that the Truck did it.
Anon 11:13 AM and 11:15 AM are just bitter because their Ford and Chevies can't handle it! But don't worry, I'm sure that this guy would be willing to tow your broken down domestics to the junk yard when he sees you on the side of the road-he'll then take you to the Toyota Dealership to get a real truck!
Obviously the towing vehicle needs to be able to handle the load, and aside from ratings ( which are really important), the general rule is the towing vehicle should be about 25% of the GCVW (gross combined vehicle weight.) You see this in tractor trailers. The max weight for an 18 wheeler without special permitting is 80,000lbs...the cab weighs somewhere between 20k and 22k usually. A big concern is not what your engine can pull but what your breaks can stop, what your frame can handle, and what your vehicle is heavy enough to control. If you had to stop suddenly and swerve pulling that boat with that tundra, the first thing that would happen is you would jacknife. As the boat passes your truck, it will roll the truck over sideways, tear itself free of the hitch, and send the boat careening off in one direction and the truck in another. I don't if you "do this all the time". It only takes one time to kill alot of people. Imagine telling parents "im really sorry I killed your kids, but, geeze, I mean, I do this all the time, I I know my truck isn't rated for anywhere NEAR that much, but I know better than the people who design these vehicles for a living, right? "
Well I pulled a 4,000 mustang on a 3,000 lbs flatbed trailer 2500 miles from Phoenix to Salisbury in three days, including driving through the mountains of Sedona and surrounding areas with no problems....And I did that with a Dodge Durango. Point is, any domestic truck could do that, most people just have the sense NOT too. I COULD cook my dinner with a propane torch, or I COULD go fishing with a shotgun. There are plenty of videos on the internet of 3/4 domestic trucks pulling fully loaded 18 wheelers....what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do are very different things....I wonder if Toyota is going to honor the warranty on this guys truck when the transmission goes bad...Since it is only designed to pull a certain amount of weight.
As my old boss used to challenge me: Lets get your Toyota and my Ford ( it was his Chevy and my Ford), back them up to each other, chain the rear axels together, put'em in gear and see which way we go!
It's not the big deal that he makes it out to be. The weight of the boat is on the three axles of the boat. Any large size pickup could pull it down the road.
11:13 I would say it is you my friend that need to read up on the law. You do not need a class A DL in the manner which you state. I have a 10K lb Chevy and pull a 16K lb trailer and do so with a class C drivers license. It is perfectly leagal as long as you have a current DOT card and the combination does not exceed 26K pounds. If your combo weight is 26001 then yes you would need class A for any trailer over 10K lbs. If you had a 3/4 ton truck that was rated for 8K lbs you could legally pull an 18K lb trailer.
Dont believe me then stop at the Delmar scale house and ask them, I have. Richard
That's great you did it once. That truck will fall to pieces if you try that on a daily basis. There's a reason why anyone who uses their truck for commercial use drives a domestic truck, they last and the toy trucks just aren't built heavy enough. They are kind of cute though
Brothers and sisters......I have a ford f-350 dually 4x4 with the Navistar 6.0. I can assure you I can pull a trailer with 4 of those toyotas on it. 4:42 is right. 26,001 is where you need the CDL. And if you have air brakes you need an endorsement. My old ford can pull a sh*tload of weight and does it all the time. If you see me during the summer you will likely see a 10,000# boat behind me - no cdl necessary. Also you don't need to go over the scales unless you are a "for hire" vehicle. If it's your personal truck and your doing personal towing put a sign "not for hire" on the side and you'll be fine.
12:12 PM... I've been a transmission rebuilder for 35 years. Problem is(for me and ford and gm) that the Tundra WILL NOT need a transmission repair after that load. Ford may, GM will.
getting something that big going is not a problem, stopping it is the problem! I am amazed at what joe sixpack will attemp. luckily nobody got hurt! To bad a police officer wasn't aware enough to do his job and cite this individual! and I'll stack my f250 up against it anytime!
Go Toyota! The best one is that someone i know pulled a semi out of the snow with a FJ cruiser!!!Try that one Ford or GM...YOU CAN NOT BEAT THE QUALITY OF A TOYOTA!!!!
Gosh darm them "Tototas!" They be doing some crazy things! It's hard enough for domestics to hang with Toyota, but now they have to compete with "Totota" too?! What is the world coming to?!
ReplyDeleteLOL, I had to take a hit at your typo Joe! This Tundra has some real brawn! I hope it's owner went home and gave it a good wash and wax for it's hard work!
You do know that you have to have a Class A CDL to pull a trailer weighing over 10,000 lbs.....even if you are pulling it with a pickup truck. Odds are that the truck also isn't RATED to pull a trailer that heavy(illegal), and odds are also that you didn't go through scale houses. You are very lucky if you made that trip without racking up to SERIOUS fines.
ReplyDeleteNot typing this to scold but to make people aware, alot of people just don't know and could get into ALOT of trouble. Also, it is the weight rating, not the actual weight that matters. Even if you are pulling an empty trailer that weighs 1500 lbs, if it is rated with a max GVW of over 10,000 lbs, you need a Class A to tow it.
DOT should'a burned your a$$ for exceeding the towing capacity for even a 1 ton truck. Thats not near enough truck to control that load should an emergency occur. You put alot of lives at risk during your little gamble towing expedition...lets see that tag number!
ReplyDeleteI do it all the time big deal !
ReplyDeleteIllegal or not, the point was that the Truck did it.
ReplyDeleteAnon 11:13 AM and 11:15 AM are just bitter because their Ford and Chevies can't handle it! But don't worry, I'm sure that this guy would be willing to tow your broken down domestics to the junk yard when he sees you on the side of the road-he'll then take you to the Toyota Dealership to get a real truck!
Obviously the towing vehicle needs to be able to handle the load, and aside from ratings ( which are really important), the general rule is the towing vehicle should be about 25% of the GCVW (gross combined vehicle weight.) You see this in tractor trailers. The max weight for an 18 wheeler without special permitting is 80,000lbs...the cab weighs somewhere between 20k and 22k usually. A big concern is not what your engine can pull but what your breaks can stop, what your frame can handle, and what your vehicle is heavy enough to control. If you had to stop suddenly and swerve pulling that boat with that tundra, the first thing that would happen is you would jacknife. As the boat passes your truck, it will roll the truck over sideways, tear itself free of the hitch, and send the boat careening off in one direction and the truck in another. I don't if you "do this all the time". It only takes one time to kill alot of people. Imagine telling parents "im really sorry I killed your kids, but, geeze, I mean, I do this all the time, I I know my truck isn't rated for anywhere NEAR that much, but I know better than the people who design these vehicles for a living, right? "
ReplyDeleteI'll put my FORD up against your Toy-ota anytime !
ReplyDeleteWell I pulled a 4,000 mustang on a 3,000 lbs flatbed trailer 2500 miles from Phoenix to Salisbury in three days, including driving through the mountains of Sedona and surrounding areas with no problems....And I did that with a Dodge Durango. Point is, any domestic truck could do that, most people just have the sense NOT too. I COULD cook my dinner with a propane torch, or I COULD go fishing with a shotgun. There are plenty of videos on the internet of 3/4 domestic trucks pulling fully loaded 18 wheelers....what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do are very different things....I wonder if Toyota is going to honor the warranty on this guys truck when the transmission goes bad...Since it is only designed to pull a certain amount of weight.
ReplyDeleteAs my old boss used to challenge me: Lets get your Toyota and my Ford ( it was his Chevy and my Ford), back them up to each other, chain the rear axels together, put'em in gear and see which way we go!
ReplyDeleteIt's not the big deal that he makes it out to be. The weight of the boat is on the three axles of the boat. Any large size pickup could pull it down the road.
ReplyDeleteRolling weight , I could pull it with my Nissan 2 wheel drive 4 banger.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you do that with the domestic and let us know how it goes?
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ReplyDeleteOnce its movind down a paved road, it's no big thing
11:13 I would say it is you my friend that need to read up on the law. You do not need a class A DL in the manner which you state. I have a 10K lb Chevy and pull a 16K lb trailer and do so with a class C drivers license. It is perfectly leagal as long as you have a current DOT card and the combination does not exceed 26K pounds. If your combo weight is 26001 then yes you would need class A for any trailer over 10K lbs. If you had a 3/4 ton truck that was rated for 8K lbs you could legally pull an 18K lb trailer.
ReplyDeleteDont believe me then stop at the Delmar scale house and ask them, I have.
Richard
That's great you did it once. That truck will fall to pieces if you try that on a daily basis. There's a reason why anyone who uses their truck for commercial use drives a domestic truck, they last and the toy trucks just aren't built heavy enough. They are kind of cute though
ReplyDeleteHow is this news? A pissing match in the making. Silly rednecks.
ReplyDeleteBrothers and sisters......I have a ford f-350 dually 4x4 with the Navistar 6.0. I can assure you I can pull a trailer with 4 of those toyotas on it. 4:42 is right. 26,001 is where you need the CDL. And if you have air brakes you need an endorsement. My old ford can pull a sh*tload of weight and does it all the time. If you see me during the summer you will likely see a 10,000# boat behind me - no cdl necessary. Also you don't need to go over the scales unless you are a "for hire" vehicle. If it's your personal truck and your doing personal towing put a sign "not for hire" on the side and you'll be fine.
ReplyDeleteShucks,I could pull that with my 'ole Harley Sportster....
ReplyDelete12:12 PM... I've been a transmission rebuilder for 35 years. Problem is(for me and ford and gm) that the Tundra WILL NOT need a transmission repair after that load. Ford may, GM will.
ReplyDeletegetting something that big going is not a problem, stopping it is the problem! I am amazed at what joe sixpack will attemp. luckily nobody got hurt! To bad a police officer wasn't aware enough to do his job and cite this individual!
ReplyDeleteand I'll stack my f250 up against it anytime!
citygoer is a beta male who could never survive without Obama !
ReplyDeleteGo Toyota! The best one is that someone i know pulled a semi out of the snow with a FJ cruiser!!!Try that one Ford or GM...YOU CAN NOT BEAT THE QUALITY OF A TOYOTA!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm all about the Tundra, but pulling two-times the legal limit is just asking for trouble. I think you should exercise better judgment.
ReplyDeleteThat's a cute toy in front of the boat. I'll put it in the bed of my Ford and take it for a ride someday.
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