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Could someone please explain to me where this guy was coming from? Is not an exam a tool to see if you have any learning capabilities or a willingness to succeed?
ReplyDeleteanonymous 4:16, IF that is the case then why not TEACH the majority of things you actually might USE in the future.
ReplyDeleteJoe, this is 4:16. As things change so fast in our society, what are the things that you might use in the future? Let's forget simple arithmick and spellin. These kids can't even balance a checkbook.
ReplyDeleteArithmetic and spelling. Sheesh!
Delete4:16, that "tool" is used to judge you from the inception of your learning years.
ReplyDeleteWe all learn differently, and to be judged simply by one tool is not fair.
It is also a very subjective tool. To think a teachers attitude or bias does not come into play is naive.
There is a long list of very successful people who did not attend college, and to tell people they are worthless because for a million reasons, could not go to college is wrong and crushing to the spirit.
Society can be cruel, and short sighted and we over look a lot of talented people, based on their lack of a piece of paper.
Interesting...from the group that is led by TEACHER SHEEP who are led by the Government who wants you to learn their way...
ReplyDeletePerfect example of what liberalism has produce over the last several generations.
ReplyDelete5:38 I disagree. People have felt this way for decades.
ReplyDeleteAsk Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, neither had college degrees.
Jobs was labeled as brilliant and difficult.
Perceptions like yours is exactly what the video is addressing.
I can sort of understand this person's rap. Refer to the following link for my reason why. Even though the subject matter may have changed from then, many of these lessons are still relevant today, and it's only 8th grade.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.barefootsworld.net/1895finalexam.html
Could any of today's college grads pass this test?
The boy has a point.
6:28 Your post states that you can succeed without the degree, yes.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't see many Gates or Jobs coming from liberal Socialist/Marxist societies. And, they both DID attend institutions of higher learning as well as High school and elementary school which gave them basic fundamentals to allow the brilliance to shine and them to become multimillionaires. Degree's establish, prove and recognize cognitive ability but are not necessary to succeed.
Equal opportunity for all does not mean equal outcome, that is where liberal philosophy fails.
Survival of the fittest, natural law
ALWAYS decides the outcome.
Crack dealers on Church st. are great at counting money... doesn't mean they can be bank presidents like liberals seem to think.
ReplyDelete6:52
ReplyDelete"Degree's establish, prove and recognize cognitive ability"
That's the biggest lie/myth. There are ALOT of stupid people with degrees. Only thing it proved was that they had money.
7:28 You're right, I stand corrected.
ReplyDeleteI should have written they are SUPPOSED to establish, prove and recognize cognitive ability but now that Liberals
control the mainstreaming in education
and the lowering the bar inclusive philosophy they do not.
Good call Annie.
8:05, that I can agree with!
ReplyDeleteAnnie. Money has nothing to do with cognitive ability. Cognitive ability is simply the ability to learn. I never scored well on exams because I felt pressured by them. However, the things I learned in the class leading up to the exam always got me through. Nobody ever had to pass a test to get welfare. And, that's what this video is all about.
ReplyDeleteYou remember Bush's "No child left behind"? Well we now have Obama's "No child left a dime".
ReplyDelete8:36 I disagree.
ReplyDeleteYou totally missed the point, of my comment and the video.
ReplyDeleteRead the comments first, and against better judgement watched video.
It's mostly drivel.
People learn by reading, listening, doing; the three main methods. We're all stronger in some methods but most use a combination.
We hear about folks who didn't finish school and succeeded; we rarely hear of those who quit and 'failed' to thrive. Steve Jobs quit Reed College and Bill Gates left Harvard; two of the most elite colleges; they had the smarts to eventually wildly succeed through persistence, luck and choosing the products they fashioned.
Most unsuccessful K-12 students do not devote adequate time to their studies. Attention spans are woeful and they give any/all distractions priority. That observation is from 10 years working with them.
There are those with lesser talents who try hard, and they get a lot of personal attention. At day's end it's still an imperfect world.
The video appears to be British; the 'individuals' listening are endorsing his plea for individuality by ...wait for it...dressing alike!
Each society sets some norms as to what the expectations are for different jobs and advanced education opportunities. The US is kinda slack in comparison to many other countries (food for another day) but we are more flexible about late bloomers and career changers.
We don't have a perfect set-up now, and didn't when I was a student having heart-to-heart chats with the principal!
I agree with the post , all of my family are very wealthy , most didn't finish high school , the ones that did , barely.
ReplyDeleteDifferent businesses for them and using wheel barrows to the bank.
I have the most education and the least money , thought education was the ticket , it wasn't. The will and fight to succeed is the ticket. I'm certainly not poor or in need and have plenty to support my lifestyle . Just tells you different strokes for different folks.
A good one to prove this would be Frank Holas , he was the president of Sara Lee corp. , started as a stockroom boy with no education , became rich and educated later in life to his choosing.
ReplyDelete10:49 Looks like your comment is mostly drivel.
ReplyDeleteI surmise there was a point to the plea for individuality and the purposefully costuming of dressing alike.
And you are what they are talking about in the vid. "from your 10 years of working with them"
They were spot on in their analysis of academia, simply based on your commentary.
The man is indeed spot on. Society is changing faster than education at warp speed. "These hallowed halls" are now nothing but history. Educate to goals, not 19th century ideals.
ReplyDeleteanonymous 7:32, Have you seen the way retail people count today? They don't. The registers do all the counting for them. As for spelling, while you and I may care about spelling and mind you, I still make my fair share of mistakes. However, look at how text messages are done and the future of the way things will be done. R u ready 4 the nxt gen?
ReplyDeleteJoe. You are right on about the registers counting change to the customer. You want to have some fun, go into a McDonald's and if your bill comes to $4.39 give them $5.85. They won't have a clue. They will call the manager and he'll have to call Chicago.
ReplyDeleteAt least they are not flashing handguns and gang signs, and smoking pot in the video.
ReplyDeleteOh that's right, they only do that in the bury.
10:49 to 5:15 AM
ReplyDeleteIndividuality is fine and a worthwhile goal but there may be a price to be paid for choosing not to master a particular skill or standard. Know and accept that upfront; no problem.
In the video I heard a complaint that there were fixed cut-off scores for various subjects. Many countries cull academically less gifted or lower scoring students early in their schooling compared to our system. It does not mean that other career paths don't exist there, but they might not be what the aspirant hoped to pursue.
Many of our healthcare providers were educated in other countries; ask them how intense the competition was back home.
There is much in our recent and current curricula that many students will not use as adults. But it is there, in part, because students don't yet know it, are there to learn and we want to provide the opportunity for each of them to push it as far as they can.
All too many decline to exert much effort on their own behalf. Those who persist will make profitable use of the information the slackers disdain. And if material wasn't in the curricula and its absence from their transcript kept them from pursuing a goal they would be griping about that also.
If you want the rapper as your doc, plumber, pilot, electrician, barber, etc. based upon doing away with or watering down useful, task driven standards, be my guest and invite him to meet your needs.
I don't glorify college; for some it's a great choice; for others a waste of time and money. Not all jobs are 'worth' the same and if a student chooses a path I prefer that they have researched it ahead of time instead of finding they've exhausted their options and are left with much less attractive choices.
5:06 All I am hearing is bla bla bla.
ReplyDeleteI did not realize that being an individual makes me void of a skill or standard.
I am sure the rapper simply wants to be a rapper. But why do you assume just because he is a rapper, he is unqualified or that it is necessary to "water down useful task driven standards" to be a doctor, plumber, pilot etc. He may actually be more than qualified to have dual careers.
Glad you are dispensing your advice for free. Did they water down useful task driven standards to pass you too? It appears that may have been the case.
6:05 nailed it "Society is changing faster than education at warp speed. "These hallowed halls" are now nothing but history. Educate to goals, not 19th century ideals."
You simply do not get it.
Anonymous 5:06 said
ReplyDelete"There is much in our recent and current curricula that many students will not use as adults. But it is there, in part, because students don't yet know it, are there to learn and we want to provide the opportunity for each of them to push it as far as they can."
Really? Isn't that partly the point of the video. Your excuse for teaching students outdated, non useful information is a big part of the problem.
"Because that's the way we have always done it"
You totally missed the point.
ReplyDelete5:06 again
Did you let your small child solely determine your family's diet? Based on what expertise?
When you're ill do you see a doc or someone who kinda wanted to be a doc but didn't get into med school?
Do you hire earnest contractors without a license or good references?
I'm all for genuine proficiency testing as an early exit from schooling and as an entre to various career paths. Apprentice and journeyman programs are good examples.
But I'm not in favor of letting inmates run the asylum. In the instant case they just lack too much world experience and have never bothered to be curious about anything more than 4 or 5 years old.
It would be interesting to actually make substantive points rather than insulting other commenters; that way we might forge ahead.